View Full Version : Donaire on Mijares:"I can out-speed, Out-power and Out-smart Mijares".
PacDbest
05-23-2008, 02:57 AM
With all of the other flyweight titlists competing overseas, a unification seems highly doubtful. Super-flyweight hosts exciting fighters like Jorge Arce, Alexander Munoz and Fernando Montiel, all competent world class talents who would provide Donaire with career-making rivalries.
The one name that stands out amongst them is Cristian Mijares, who unified the WBC/WBA super-flyweight belts this past weekend. Donaire makes no secret of his desire to fight him.
"I think I can outspeed Mijares. I think I can out-power him, I'm smarter than him. I can use strategy to make that fight go my way. I think I'm a lot faster than him. Overall I'm very confident that I can take him out or beat him on points. In speed he has nothing compared to mine."
"Oh, he can beat Mijares," agrees Dunkin. "But this guy is unifying the title and is active, we aren't."
He told me this even before this interview. I just want to let you know.
Here's the link: [Only registered and activated users can see links]
jimmie
05-23-2008, 03:01 AM
Hes right.
kg0208
05-23-2008, 03:01 AM
I am sure Mijares would say the same of Donaire.
Unless they start negotiations? I don' care what they say really.....just talk.
Morrissey
05-23-2008, 03:04 AM
Why can't his team fight Mijares then?
If he is so confident in beating him, make a way for it ASAP. Mijares is already in the top 10 list p4p; it will be a good way of being noticed more.
What do you think?
theunderdog
05-23-2008, 03:11 AM
i see an amsterdam pacd face off in a bit
main man
05-23-2008, 03:22 AM
i see an amsterdam pacd face off in a bit
haha, you betcha.
anyway, this will be an interesting fight but right now, mijares is just too talented to be outboxed by donaire. I also think mijares is faster and smarter although donaire might have a slight edge in power. We cant ignore the fact that mijares has beaten up more competitive guys.
i see an amsterdam pacd face off in a bit
amsterdam and huki will apply double team on pacd. :yep
Jason997
05-23-2008, 03:40 AM
Lets see the match then. I like Donaire, but I haven't seen enough to convince me that he is an outstanding fighter like Mijares.
cali29
05-23-2008, 03:41 AM
amsterdam and huki will apply double team on pacd. :yep
so, can we expect a johnco or a silvermags to come to pacd's rescue? :hey :hey
Carlos Primera
05-23-2008, 04:11 AM
i see an amsterdam pacd face off in a bit
:lol:
this should be fun.
cardstars
05-23-2008, 04:13 AM
so, can we expect a johnco or a silvermags to come to pacd's rescue? :hey :hey
Then I better even out the odds :bbb
HitBattousai
05-23-2008, 04:54 AM
Donaire has skills and it'd be a fight I'd like to see. That said, the only advantage I'd give him against Mijares is power, and that wouldn't be enough, imo. Mijares would probably outbox him to a wide decision win, assuming the judges aren't totally blind for once.
Simple100
05-23-2008, 04:58 AM
it will be exiting fight but I hope donaire should fight 3 to 4 times a year to have his rythm.
box3r86
05-23-2008, 05:38 AM
it would b a step up in weight fo donaire. could tht b a factor?
RealIzm
05-23-2008, 06:14 AM
it would b a step up in weight fo donaire. could tht b a factor?With lower weights I don't think it matters as much....
Often times fighters who move up from such a lighter weight do just as good if not better
Donaire is surely quicker with his hands and feet than Mijares...not sure about power though...at the same weight I could see them being about the same.....Even though I think Donaire would do well against Mijares maybe even beat him, it's way to early to tell for Donaire, he needs better names under his belt before I'm convinced:deal
Guru_Too_You
05-23-2008, 06:26 AM
Hes right.
I agree.
Donaire is no joke.
He's one hell of a boxer as well, and this would be a highly entertaining yet supremely technical bout.
The one shining difference is Donaire's power.
psychopath
05-23-2008, 07:18 AM
i see an amsterdam pacd face off in a bit
:yep
:lol: :lol: :lol:
psychopath
05-23-2008, 07:22 AM
it would b a step up in weight fo donaire. could tht b a factor?
Donaire has been fighting at superfly before he came down in weight to fight Darchiryan.
Pimp C
05-23-2008, 09:43 AM
He told me this even before this interview. I just want to let you know.
Here's the link: [Only registered and activated users can see links]
I agree and that's why he'll beat Mijares not to mention he's a great counter-puncher as well.
box3r86
05-23-2008, 10:00 AM
With lower weights I don't think it matters as much....
Often times fighters who move up from such a lighter weight do just as good if not better
Donaire is surely quicker with his hands and feet than Mijares...not sure about power though...at the same weight I could see them being about the same.....Even though I think Donaire would do well against Mijares maybe even beat him, it's way to early to tell for Donaire, he needs better names under his belt before I'm convinced:deal
not bein picky but you said with lower weights it doesnt matter as much then you say that he might not have as much power at the same weight????
the weight diff betweeen divisions does usually take into account height and build differences, which is why it is less in the lower divisions.
D-MAC
05-23-2008, 10:32 AM
Is everyone forgetting this man
<<<<<<<
He's a seasoned pro, holds a title, and is already fighting at the same weight as Mijares.
Samurai
05-23-2008, 10:55 AM
I agree.
Donaire is no joke.
He's one hell of a boxer as well, and this would be a highly entertaining yet supremely technical bout.
The one shining difference is Donaire's power.
Agreed.
Amsterdam
05-23-2008, 11:18 AM
Then I better even out the odds :bbb
Even out the odds? Huki and myself on plenty of occassions have KTFO PacD in the first round, though that's not a mark of merit because anybody who knows a little bit about boxing can do so, that'd be about 70% of the forum at ESB.
If you want to get serious. Make an Amsterdam/Huki team a 100/1 favourite over a team of PacD/Silvermags & Johnco. Even though our outfit has been broken up due to Brooklyn leaving.
Amsterdam
05-23-2008, 11:23 AM
I agree.
Donaire is no joke.
He's one hell of a boxer as well, and this would be a highly entertaining yet supremely technical bout.
The one shining difference is Donaire's power.
Donaire relies on his speed though, Mijares has great speed also, but an amazing array of technical skill offensively and defensively to add to this, where as Donaire is a pot shotting power puncher who relies on his footspeed almost solely for defence.
Donaire as a good jab, but Mijares has a GREAT jab and the timing/accuracy department goes to Mijares in general in comparison to anybody under 126, his precise offensive work is some of the best in the sport and he throws at a high workrate, while making his opponents miss like crazy, even when he's working inside.
He's also an excellent ring general and extremely intelligent in the ring, Donaie on the other hand has shown a few spots where he relied on his corner to tell him what to do. This area is not comparable.
Styles go to Mijares by the way, a stiff jab can make Donaire unwary, see the few spots Maldonado pressed forward. Donaire also doesn't seem to like a workrate based fight, wanting to keep the workrate down to single shots and 1-2's often, where as Mijares is a combination master and throws every shot on the book.
Donaire has power, but it's a non-factor against a guy as slick as Mijares and I really think Donaire ought to be worried about Mijares' underrated power. Mijares is not a power puncher, but his shots tally up damage quickly and sting, he's been stunning some guys with pretty good chins lately with his perfectly timed shots.
Amsterdam
05-23-2008, 11:28 AM
He told me this even before this interview. I just want to let you know.
Here's the link: [Only registered and activated users can see links]
Ooooooo
Because a fighter say it, it mean it gonna happen, durrr.:good
nervousxtian
05-23-2008, 11:38 AM
Amsterdam, keep in mind: Donaire wants this fight because he knows all he has to do is win 3 or 4 rounds to get the decision. This is Mijares were talking about.
Amsterdam
05-23-2008, 11:49 AM
Amsterdam, keep in mind: Donaire wants this fight because he knows all he has to do is win 3 or 4 rounds to get the decision. This is Mijares were talking about.
Very true, but there is a chance that he won't take that amount even, there's a good chance he freezes up like that one instance where I saw him do it and then Mijares will own over him with accurate work and keep it going round to round until Donaire's corner throws in the towel.
The Donaire fans are not looking at this correctly, Mijares is the much better and smarter fighter.
PacDbest
05-23-2008, 11:54 AM
Even out the odds? Huki and myself on plenty of occassions have KTFO PacD in the first round, though that's not a mark of merit because anybody who knows a little bit about boxing can do so, that'd be about 70% of the forum at ESB.
If you want to get serious. Make an Amsterdam/Huki team a 100/1 favourite over a team of PacD/Silvermags & Johnco. Even though our outfit has been broken up due to Brooklyn leaving.
What happened to Brooky??
Amsterdam
05-23-2008, 11:59 AM
What happened to Brooky??
Scum posters like yourself drove him to find better means to fill his time.
Brickhaus
05-23-2008, 12:05 PM
Donaire's only advantage is that he's stronger. He might be able to pull off an upset by landing the more solid shots, but Mijares is quicker, Mijares is better technically, Mijares is better defensively, Mijares has a higher workrate, Mijares has better footwork, and Mijares is a southpaw. That would be a lot to overcome for a fighter who is still relatively green and whose only accomplishment is beating someone who had SERIOUS technical flaws.
PacDbest
05-23-2008, 12:08 PM
Scum posters like yourself drove him to find better means to fill his time.
Did he lost a Lifetime bet??? Or He cannot stand to be together with the Scum like You???
albeziel
05-23-2008, 12:38 PM
then fight damn it
BITCH ASS
05-23-2008, 12:40 PM
I agree.
Donaire is no joke.
He's one hell of a boxer as well, and this would be a highly entertaining yet supremely technical bout.
The one shining difference is Donaire's power.
And his versatility and overall athleticism.
For the first time, you and I agree.
RafaelGonzal
05-23-2008, 12:55 PM
I have seen both but not that much of each but, I feel Donaire has the more exciting style. He has the better offense, while Mijares is more of a defensive fighter. He lays back and counters, I feel Donaire is more of a force than Mijares who is calculating but effective. I want to see this one I will go with Nonito he is that good.
puga_ni_nana
05-23-2008, 01:38 PM
let's get it on!!!
it's a tough fight for donaire but its better than having no fights at all. i hope for either a donaire-montiel or a mijares-montiel fight before this happens.
In Mijares-Donaire you will see the definition of a fighter breaking down. Donaire will not only be broken down physically, he will be broken down mentally in an extreme, almost Cintron type of way. :lol: I can't wait to see what PacDBest says when he sees Nonito, confused as hell, falling apart by the mid rounds and losing all of his composure, which will lead to him panicking and getting sloppier than ever before. When he panics, he will be losing even more stamina than usual at a very fast rate and he'll be getting hit all over the place. Mijares TKO 9.
Mijares does pretty much everything better than Donaire, a lot of things much, much better. The only thing Donaire has the edge in is power, which is meaningless because Munoz and Arce couldn't even stun Mijares. Mijares is getting so comfortable in the ring that his stamina is just getting better and better while he's becoming sharper with both his offense and defense. During his last fight, I was getting Pernell Whitaker type of "holy shit, how did he just do that?" feelings when he pulled off some of his defensive moves, counters, and combinations off the jab. Also, after the fight, Mijares wasn't the least bit tired, he could have easily gone 15+ rounds. People that think a basic fighter like Donaire with very good natural talent (but nothing sensational) and limited skill could even be competitive with what Mijares has become now are either Donaire nuthuggers or have only looked at Mijares on boxrec.
kg0208
05-23-2008, 01:55 PM
Did he lost a Lifetime bet??? Or He cannot stand to be together with the Scum like You???
To actually answer your question, Brooklyn decided that he was spending far too much time on this website and felt it was best to leave.
Monticello
05-23-2008, 02:03 PM
I ope this fight happens at some point. I think it would be a great fight and I'm not certain who would come out victorious in this fight.
bigeddie27
05-23-2008, 02:10 PM
In Mijares-Donaire you will see the definition of a fighter breaking down. Donaire will not only be broken down physically, he will be broken down mentally in an extreme, almost Cintron type of way. :lol: I can't wait to see what PacDBest says when he sees Nonito, confused as hell, falling apart by the mid rounds and losing all of his composure, which will lead to him panicking and getting sloppier than ever before. When he panics, he will be losing even more stamina than usual at a very fast rate and he'll be getting hit all over the place. Mijares TKO 9.
Mijares does pretty much everything better than Donaire, a lot of things much, much better. The only thing Donaire has the edge in is power, which is meaningless because Munoz and Arce couldn't even stun Mijares. Mijares is getting so comfortable in the ring that his stamina is just getting better and better while he's becoming sharper with both his offense and defense. During his last fight, I was getting Pernell Whitaker type of "holy shit, how did he just do that?" feelings when he pulled off some of his defensive moves, counters, and combinations off the jab. Also, after the fight, Mijares wasn't the least bit tired, he could have easily gone 15+ rounds. People that think a basic fighter like Donaire with very good natural talent (but nothing sensational) and limited skill could even be competitive with what Mijares has become now are either Donaire nuthuggers or have only looked at Mijares on boxrec.
huki i think I would make you break down and cry if we fought.
PacDbest
05-23-2008, 02:55 PM
To actually answer your question, Brooklyn decided that he was spending far too much time on this website and felt it was best to leave.
I was thinking the same thing, I spend too much just discusing the same thing against the same people. That's why I'm betting lifetime bets so I can get out of it. The problem, I think I'm still going to win my bet and still has to stay.
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