View Full Version : Ricky Hatton way overrated?
phillip002
05-23-2008, 07:11 AM
Can someone please explain to me way the Hitman has such a huge fan base? 50,000 people going to see him fight a way less talented fighter, come on. I thought PBF already proved Hatton was overrated?:?
Serenata
05-23-2008, 07:43 AM
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For example.
PBF surely was the better fighter that night, but it was his weightclass...
Beeston Brawler
05-23-2008, 09:40 AM
Hatton isn't over-rated at all.
I would say he is probably under-rated if anything. He is 42-0 in his own weight class and has never looked like losing, and could you actually think of any current (or recent for that matter) 140lb'er giving him trouble, because I can't!
55k people are turning up because they just love the guy - not all of them are big boxing fans. Let's not forget, it is a pretty decent card lined up at Eastlands, just wish I was there to take in all the action.
no definitely underrated,pre tsyzu he was completely different and i believe far better also his footwork is very under-rated he has such quick feet
ethandelahoya
05-23-2008, 10:09 AM
hatton is not no way overrated more like Beeston Brawler ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) said hes underrated , the only things that floyd proved was that hatton has no business fighing with the elite at 147 and that floyd is still no#1 in the sport :deal
Beeston Brawler
05-23-2008, 10:15 AM
I think Hatton could have been a multiple weight world champion, had he actually started off at a lower weight.
The Americans seem to fight at the lowest weight they can for as long as they can, before moving up as necessary. Conversely, the biggest names in Europe, notably Hatton, Calzaghe and Kessler have always fought (pretty much anyway) in the same weight class.
Back to Hatton, given that he has always made 140 easily, if he had a better lifestyle outside of the ring, I feel he could have made 135 or perhaps even 130 earlier in his career.
The welterweight division to Hatton is what middleweight was to Oscar De La Hoya - beating gatekeepers is easy, but lose out to THE top dog in the weight class.
southpawslick
06-05-2008, 10:50 PM
I think Hatton could have been a multiple weight world champion, had he actually started off at a lower weight.
The Americans seem to fight at the lowest weight they can for as long as they can, before moving up as necessary. Conversely, the biggest names in Europe, notably Hatton, Calzaghe and Kessler have always fought (pretty much anyway) in the same weight class.
Back to Hatton, given that he has always made 140 easily, if he had a better lifestyle outside of the ring, I feel he could have made 135 or perhaps even 130 earlier in his career.
The welterweight division to Hatton is what middleweight was to Oscar De La Hoya - beating gatekeepers is easy, but lose out to THE top dog in the weight class.
Absolutely agree with this. If Hatton had been a fitness guy and kept in top shape between fights he would have made 130 and probably dominated.
dwilson
06-06-2008, 05:06 AM
Hatton is definetly a top 10 140lb fighter but nothing more.
Brighton bomber
06-06-2008, 10:08 AM
Can someone please explain to me way the Hitman has such a huge fan base? 50,000 people going to see him fight a way less talented fighter, come on. I thought PBF already proved Hatton was overrated?:?
He was managed well and built up as a future star from a very early point in his career. He is likable and is entertaining to watch fight as he always comes to fight so it's not suprising he's popular, especially with the Man city FC association. Not to mention he is the best 140lbs on the planet and while he lost to Mayweather he has the desire to attempt to be an ATG even if he isn't.
Being the best doesn't guarantee you fame and fortune. Fighters like Ricardo Lopez, Hopkins (pre tito) even Mayweather have found it hard to put bums on seats. Look at Gatti, a B level fighter but always entertained the fans and brought in the crowds.
Look at Ottke. Never an elite fighter, never proved himself the best at 168lbs and had a style that made insomniacs fall into coma's at the start of the first round, yet he was a huge star in Germany. How you are presented to the public and personality goes a long way.
joeboxer
06-06-2008, 12:49 PM
ya overrated. wins over Tszyu, castillo, Urango, Collazzo, multi division champ. only loss coming to top p4p fighter. overrated? for the amount of criticism he gets he is UNDERRATED.
Can someone please explain to me way the Hitman has such a huge fan base? 50,000 people going to see him fight a way less talented fighter, come on. I thought PBF already proved Hatton was overrated?:?
Overrated???????? Hatton is a human being. No shame to lose against a top rival,but that doesnt mean that he has been overrated.
Huge fan base. Well,he is fun to watch and his compatriots seem to like him a lot. Whats wrong with that?
Hatton is good for our beloved sport.
Overrated?? Nah!
REatb6869
06-18-2008, 06:16 PM
Yes, Ricky is WAY underrated. One of the best at 140 in the history of the sport and even nicked a welterweight belt. His loss to PBF was no shame.
Who at 140 was better than Hatton?
southpawslick
06-19-2008, 10:00 AM
Yes, Ricky is WAY underrated. One of the best at 140 in the history of the sport and even nicked a welterweight belt. His loss to PBF was no shame.
Who at 140 was better than Hatton?
The only other possible name that comes to mind is Tszyu
Polymath
06-19-2008, 10:39 AM
The only other possible name that comes to mind is Tszyu
Pryor
Benitez
Whittaker
JC Chavez
Polymath
06-19-2008, 10:40 AM
recently,
Mayweather
Cotto
DLH
Mosely if he'd bothered at the weight
REatb6869
06-19-2008, 01:55 PM
Polymath:
PBF, Cotto, Shane, ODLH are not really junior welterweights as they all fight at higher weights. Plus, I'm not sure Cotto is really better than Hatton at 140 (or even 147 for that matter).
Chavez, Whitaker, Pryor, Benitez are all legends but nor sure any of them blows Ricky away. Good company for Hatton to be in even if you do think they would defeat him.
Polymath
06-19-2008, 06:17 PM
Polymath:
PBF, Cotto, Shane, ODLH are not really junior welterweights as they all fight at higher weights. Plus, I'm not sure Cotto is really better than Hatton at 140 (or even 147 for that matter).
All of them started lower than 140lbs - with Mosely and PBF especially doing their best work at 135 or below. Cotto is better than Hatton in every conceivable way. Only a Brit/diehard hatton fan would think oitherwise.
Chavez, Whitaker, Pryor, Benitez are all legends but nor sure any of them blows Ricky away. Good company for Hatton to be in even if you do think they would defeat him.
Hatton is not in their company in any sense other than having fought in the same division; they'de all beat him convincingly.
southpawslick
06-19-2008, 08:23 PM
Pryor
Benitez
Whittaker
JC Chavez
You're correct of course but I was thinking of guys who ended up at the weight and never went any higher.
REatb6869
06-21-2008, 09:07 PM
Sorry, but if you take the Hatton that beat Tszyu I'd put him up against any in your list.
Farmboxer
07-01-2008, 02:40 AM
Hatton is a good fighter at 140, but only at that weight.
PaddyD1983
07-01-2008, 05:38 AM
recently,
Mayweather
Cotto
DLH
Mosely if he'd bothered at the weight
Mayweather - agree, DLH - agree. Mosley? Did he fight at LWW? If not then cant be included, if he did then I see this being a tear up of a fight. Cotto gets KO'd by Hatton at 140. Hatton gets KO'd by Cotto at 147 though.
Beeston Brawler
07-21-2008, 05:29 AM
Totally agree Paddy - Cotto wasn't great at 140 at all. His move up to 147 allowed him to eat three square meals a day and put on muscle. Therefore speed, power and chin have all improved.
warrior85
07-21-2008, 10:07 AM
hatton is under rated
Vantage_West
07-21-2008, 11:50 AM
if your going to lose to anyone...anyone at all it would be to the best fighter in the sport.
Loewe
07-21-2008, 11:58 AM
Pryor
Benitez
Whittaker
JC Chavez
recently,
Mayweather
Cotto
DLH
Mosely if he'd bothered at the weight
Well, Whitaker and Mosley didnīt fight at that weight and so canīt be included. Pryor, Benitez, Chavez, DLH and Mayweather would beat Hatton at 140, Cotto would lose though. Barney Ross and Toni Canzoneri fought at 140 if i remember right and should also be put above Hatten.
Well, thatīs a pretty prominent list of atg which Hatton would be second to.
Beeston Brawler
07-21-2008, 12:32 PM
Not sure whether Hatton would beat Mosley at 140 - the handspeed would be a difficulty, as would the fact that Shane has a granite chin
Mayweather, Chavez and DLH would beat him @ 140 - not sure about the others as I have not seen enough of them.
Someone on the Brit forum is adamant that Hatton would beat Locche due to styles - no idea really.
Hatton would batter Cotto at 140, chinny, weight drained etc - at 147 it would be the complete reverse.
Farmboxer
07-23-2008, 01:27 AM
Hatton is a good fighter at 140, but only at 140.
COULDHAVEBEEN
08-19-2008, 08:26 AM
I thought PBF already proved Hatton was overrated?:?
There's not much to dislike about a 44 wins (KO 31) and 1 loss (KO 1)!
So he lost to Mayweather. So did everybody else!
JonOli
08-19-2008, 08:44 AM
I thought PBF already proved Hatton was overrated?:?
Losing to Mayweather doesn't prove a thing other then Hatton was willing to take on the top man in the world. Hattons style was perfect for Floyd, and he was always going to come off worse.
I'm not sure if it has always been this way (there was a time when the hype was way overboard for Hatton), but right now, I'd say Hatton was underrated.
heehoo
08-19-2008, 08:18 PM
I can't tell you how many times I have heard Hatton being referred to as a poor man's Roberto Duran. I don't think so myself, however. He's good, no doubt.
GazOC
08-19-2008, 08:23 PM
Hatton was probably over rated before the Mayweather fight but he's definealty under rated after it. He's undefeated at 140 and his only loss is to the P4P number 1 when moving up in weight.
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