View Full Version : Hatton should just fight Floyd at 147.
And he just cut weight to like 142-143 and he'll probably come in around the weight of what he would if they fought at 140.
paulfv
07-18-2007, 08:38 PM
No way if I'm Hatton. 140 or catchweight.
Slothrop
07-18-2007, 08:40 PM
No way if I'm Hatton. 140 or catchweight.
Exactly. Got to be at a weight where the fighters' respective advantages meet in the middle as much as possible.
Hatton is the challenger. He needs to go up. Not vice versa.
paulfv
07-18-2007, 08:49 PM
Hatton is the challenger. He needs to go up. Not vice versa.
I guess we'll see how much PBF wants some of that UK $$$$ Hatton brings.
PBF is not - nor has he ever been - a draw. Hatton is. When you put the butts in the seats, you call the shots. I am quite sure Hatton's - and PBF's - people understand that.
I guess we'll find out how the negotiations go.
thewoo
07-18-2007, 08:49 PM
Question for those of you that think that 140 benefits Hatton...Why?
Floyd will have absolutly 0 problems making that weight, he will simply be faster and harder for Hatton to catch.
El Bombasto
07-18-2007, 09:18 PM
Hatton's already at a pretty significant disadvantage in skill and experience. Making PBF cut to fight Hatton at 140 (apparrently the only weight he's effective at) will help level the playing field, though not completely.
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 09:20 PM
Hatton's still the 140 Champ. Why not have Floyd come down so he can try for one he missed. If Floyd can make 140, like all his crybaby fanboys say, then WTF does it matter?
nulty
07-18-2007, 09:23 PM
Hatton is the challenger. He needs to go up. Not vice versa.
The linear 140 champ is the challenger? In any event Hatton has alreay said he'd fight Floyd at 147 although he would train as if it was a 140 fight to preserve his speed. I've said it before and I'll say it now, Hatton stops Mayweather in the championship rounds, if the fight happens I'm going to have bragging rights for a while.
brick city
07-18-2007, 09:23 PM
Hatton is a draw but pbf is the bigger name. Pbf wins easily.
nulty
07-18-2007, 09:33 PM
Lol thats a long shot, i bet my username that Floyd stops Hatton. If Hatton stops Floyd i'll re-register as YoungAnalQueen or somethin like that.
Do you promise? Also if Hatton wins a UD will you re-register as oldanalqueen? The bookies called it a long shot when I bet on Hatton to stop Tyszu and when I bet on JC to beat Lacy.
Toopretty
07-18-2007, 09:44 PM
Lol thats a long shot, i bet my username that Floyd stops Hatton. If Hatton stops Floyd i'll re-register as YoungAnalQueen or somethin like that.
IF they fight you are toast. This is so much of a mismatch I am not interested in it. I mean 3 years ago. :think
thunder06
07-18-2007, 10:16 PM
it doesnt matter what weight they fight at 140 or 147 there is still a championship belt on the line. floyd is the linear 147 pound champ and hatton is the linear 140 pound champ. i dont care what weight its at as long as it is made. and ill be rooting for hatton but betting on pbf.
Toopretty
07-18-2007, 10:16 PM
Rumble you are an idiot a 36 year old retiring injured tsyu who has himself not beaten any other great fighter is not an accomplishment...lol
BigReg
07-18-2007, 10:32 PM
Hatton - Castillo (shot), Zoo (old), collazo ( not a big name)
Mayweather - Five division champ, Hernandez, Judah, Castillo ( prime, twice), Corrales, de la Hoya, Chavez, Gatti, Baldomir ( the man who beat the man)
Why does Mayweather need Hatton?... stupid :lol:
You're crazy, Hatton's resume is loaded
Juan Urango - Was an undefeated champ before Hatton got to him
Carlos Maussa - KO'd "Vicious" Vivian Harris
Ben Tackie - Yeah he had lost 2 in a row coming into the fight, but the guy did knock out Teddy Reid
Tony Pep - The Hugman knocked him out in 4 rounds, Floyd could only manage a a decision against him
Toopretty
07-18-2007, 10:47 PM
You're crazy, Hatton's resume is loaded
Juan Urango - Was an undefeated champ before Hatton got to him
Carlos Maussa - KO'd "Vicious" Vivian Harris
Ben Tackie - Yeah he had lost 2 in a row coming into the fight, but the guy did knock out Teddy Reid
Tony Pep - The Hugman knocked him out in 4 rounds, Floyd could only manage a a decision against him
I hope to all that is holy that you are not serious. Urango was undefeated fighting who. Is Urango a bum, yes he is. Maussa, how many times has he been knocked out. He got a lucky punch if there were ever a such thing over the 6rnd overrated harris. Tackie....stop the press.....stop the madness...Pep..lol..Pep.....he went 12 with floyd but took 12 rounds of pure D ass whooping at that was at feather. He moved up to 140 to fight hatton and he was older as well and 2 weight classes past his norm...wait a minute what the fuck am talking about..you are either joking of fucking half retarded..:verysad
1lehudson
07-18-2007, 11:02 PM
I guess we'll see how much PBF wants some of that UK $$$$ Hatton brings.
PBF is not - nor has he ever been - a draw. Hatton is. When you put the butts in the seats, you call the shots. I am quite sure Hatton's - and PBF's - people understand that.
I guess we'll find out how the negotiations go.Once again I think that people are misunderstanding of what kind of money European fighters get. Huge crowds dont translate to huge money. European promoters are more into the setting. They have fights in 50,000 seat arenas and charge $10.00 US for people to get in. Where as in the States they fight in 6,000 or 7,000 is the norm where ticket prices will run from $100.00 to $5,000.00 US. You do the math.
As far as Floyd not being a draw..Well that is a myth, one started and keep alive by Floyd bashers even though the numbers that return on his fights prove otherwise. It was the combination of Floyd and Oscar that produced the biggest ppv sells of all times. Not with Tito who was said to be a draw, not with Mosley, not with Vargas, not with Chavez or Whitaker or Hopkins WITH floyd. I would venue to guess if Floyd were to put on a fight in the UK not even fighting a European fighter he would do great numbers. but until Hatton has a ppv you really cant call him a draw.
thewoo
07-18-2007, 11:19 PM
So let me get this straight. The general opinion here is that Floyd is the bigger man and Hatton making him "drain" to 140 will be the deciding factor in this fight? Just a few years ago the general argument was that Hatton could beat floyd using his size and strength advantage.
Hatton was the bigger man then and he's the bigger man now. Floyd has been more succesfull at higher weights because he is a better fighter, not because he is a bigger guy. What weight this fight takes place at is probably the least important factor in determining the outcome.
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 11:20 PM
Once again I think that people are misunderstanding of what kind of money European fighters get. Huge crowds dont translate to huge money. European promoters are more into the setting. They have fights in 50,000 seat arenas and charge $10.00 US for people to get in. Where as in the States they fight in 6,000 or 7,000 is the norm where ticket prices will run from $100.00 to $5,000.00 US. You do the math.
Wow...it only costs 5 quid to see guys fight huh? So only a couple pounds more then a pint to see Hatton or Calzaghe? Guess you're starting to buy your own bullshit? :patsch
Don't worry, there are new nuthuggers here to agree with you. :thumbsup
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 11:23 PM
Floyd fans just like to bitch and moan.
Day one: "Floyd's the best fighter from 154 down!"
Next Day: "WHy is DLH FORCING him to fight at 154?"
Day one: "Floyd's a natural 135er"
Next day: "Why Floyd gotta move down in weight for Haton?"
Day one: "Hatton said no twice is the reason Floyd can't be the lineal 140 champ"
Next Day: "Why can't Hatton move to 147 and fight for Floyd's belt?"
:patsch
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 11:25 PM
IF you guys cried about Floyd NOT getting the Lineal title at 140, then SHUT THE F*CK UP and just hope Floyd gets his opportunity. Is it TOO late for Floyd to be the Lineal 140 champ? Morons....
JMonster
07-18-2007, 11:29 PM
it's proven mayweather can make ne weight n shows no signs of weakness at them. hatton on the other hand IS the chanllenger AND is usually over weight neways
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 11:32 PM
it's proven mayweather can make ne weight n shows no signs of weakness at them. hatton on the other hand IS the chanllenger AND is usually over weight neways
Acttually, Hatton is thr Champ @ 140. If they fought there, Floyd would be the challenger. Only @ 147 would Hatton be the challenger. And WHEN was Hatton overweight?:huh
BigReg
07-18-2007, 11:35 PM
IF you guys cried about Floyd NOT getting the Lineal title at 140, then SHUT THE F*CK UP and just hope Floyd gets his opportunity. Is it TOO late for Floyd to be the Lineal 140 champ? Morons....
Floyd doesn't need another lineal title, he already has two(some argue 3). Meanwhile Hatton hasn't even won two legitimate alphabet titles let alone two lineal titles. This fight can take place at any weight, Hatton still loses.
J_Roth
07-18-2007, 11:37 PM
If I'm not mistaken Hatton is the Linear 140 Champ. PBF is the Linear 147 Champ. That should in itself warrant a catchweight. Makes sense to me.
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 11:38 PM
Floyd doesn't need another lineal title, he already has two(some argue 3). Meanwhile Hatton hasn't even won two legitimate alphabet titles let alone two lineal titles. This fight can take place at any weight, Hatton still loses.
Last I looked, 4 LINEAL was better then 3 lineal. Agree with that?
Really, if Floyd can make 140, then what's the big deal? Don't you want tow guys to fight at their best? Hatton's NOT a WW. At least not w/o a couple more fights there.
And if you think Hatton loses, then what's the prob? I would favor Floyd @ either weight myself, but I would prefer it happen at 140 for a better fight.
Caper
07-18-2007, 11:38 PM
I guess I'm one of the few delusional fools that think the top guys at 147lbs give PBF a tougher fight then Hatton would. I mean Hatton will give PBF a rough outing but he will eventually be sliced into trail mix and placed in a local manchester pub.
I give Hatton this he's tough, rugged, determined and strong but he's slightly above average in the skill department that combined with his size mean PBF wins no doubt in my mind. I don't see why this fight should be made and it will only make Hatton less marketable in America once PBF disposes of him.
1lehudson
07-18-2007, 11:40 PM
Wow...it only costs 5 quid to see guys fight huh? So only a couple pounds more then a pint to see Hatton or Calzaghe? Guess you're starting to buy your own bullshit? :patsch
Don't worry, there are new nuthuggers here to agree with you. :thumbsupYou are a moron, you come on here and act like you know something and you dont know shit. Check this out moron.
kessler vs Calzaghe the biggest fight that can be made in Europe, do you have any clue as to what the ticket prices are?? average price $350US with the cheap seats going for $80.00US and ringside going for $1,000US. On the flip side of that Tickets for Wright vs Hopkins are set at $225 to $11,182 or an average of $6,483.
chew on that for a while you jackass:deal :hi:
thewoo
07-18-2007, 11:44 PM
Last I looked, 4 LINEAL was better then 3 lineal. Agree with that?
Really, if Floyd can make 140, then what's the big deal? Don't you want tow guys to fight at their best? Hatton's NOT a WW. At least not w/o a couple more fights there.
And if you think Hatton loses, then what's the prob? I would favor Floyd @ either weight myself, but I would prefer it happen at 140 for a better fight.
Lance in all honesty. What advantage do you think that Hatton would have at 140? Not arguing about where the fight should take place or why. But supposing it took place at 140, how do you think that will help hatton?
1lehudson
07-18-2007, 11:44 PM
Oh yeah I forgot to mention that Wright and hopkins are suppose to be fighters that have no drawing power:rofl
BigReg
07-18-2007, 11:45 PM
Last I looked, 4 LINEAL was better then 3 lineal. Agree with that?
Really, if Floyd can make 140, then what's the big deal? Don't you want tow guys to fight at their best? Hatton's NOT a WW. At least not w/o a couple more fights there.
And if you think Hatton loses, then what's the prob? I would favor Floyd @ either weight myself, but I would prefer it happen at 140 for a better fight.
Of course 4 is better than 3. However, I don't think Floyd cares too much about another lineal title. He's not going to go down to 140 to fight Hatton for his IBO belt. For some reason Floyd has a hard on for the WBC. That seems to be the only belt he wants. He said before the Zab fight that he would give back the crappy IBF belt when he won and he did. He always touts himself as a five time WBC champ, never mentioning his lineal titles. I would love to see the fight at any weight, however, Floyd is not going to fight for an IBO or even a lineal title if he can fight for the WBC title.
C Money
07-18-2007, 11:45 PM
Rumble you are an idiot a 36 year old retiring injured tsyu who has himself not beaten any other great fighter is not an accomplishment...lol
Another CLASSIC from TooSHitty. Right up there with Mosley's a coward who gets down on himself:lol: :lol: You really are a clown of the HIGHEST ORDER. Someone send this guy front row seats to the next INSANE CLOWN POSSE show coming near his hometown:good
If Tszyu was a nobody, MostSHitty one, then why was Floyd ON CAMERA before the Bruseles fight talking about how Tszyu wasnt old enough yet?? Because he wanted to beat an OLD Tszyu like he beat an old version of UNCLE Rog??
As for name opponents?? Mayweather, bramble, Ruelas, JCC, JUDAH(guess we can disregard PBF's victory as well:lol: ) Mitchell(ditto) and MAG, well who were they after all huh?? Tooshitty says so, it must be true:lol: :lol: :lol:
Now, many of those names were at the end of there career's and that's not the same as prime victories, but that's also coincidental with many "names' on Floyds record as well. the fact remains that Tszyu's style meshed very well with a guy like Floyd. Tszyu had the power and right hand accuracy that enabled him to catch slick boxers. What he had problems with were PHYSICAL BANGERS who applied non-stop pressure.
Hey....Hey.....TOO SHITTY:yep
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 11:45 PM
Lance in all honesty. What advantage do you think that Hatton would have at 140? Not arguing about where the fight should take place or why. But supposing it took place at 140, how do you think that will help hatton?
It doesn't need to be an advantage over Floyd, as I don't think he has one, but moreso it pits Hatton at a weight he's better suited for. I just don't like Hatton @ 147.
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 11:46 PM
Of course 4 is better than 3. However, I don't think Floyd cares too much about another lineal title. He's not going to go down to 140 to fight Hatton for his IBO belt. For some reason Floyd has a hard on for the WBC. That seems to be the only belt he wants. He said before the Zab fight that he would give back the crappy IBF belt when he won and he did. He always touts himself as a five time WBC champ, never mentioning his lineal titles. I would love to see the fight at any weight, however, Floyd is not going to fight for an IBO or even a lineal title if he can fight for the WBC title.
Floyd may as stay retired then. No point in him ever fighting again. HE can hold al the WBC titles he wants. It's just as bad as the rest.
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 11:48 PM
You are a moron, you come on here and act like you know something and you dont know shit. Check this out moron.
kessler vs Calzaghe the biggest fight that can be made in Europe, do you have any clue as to what the ticket prices are?? average price $350US with the cheap seats going for $80.00US and ringside going for $1,000US. On the flip side of that Tickets for Wright vs Hopkins are set at $225 to $11,182 or an average of $6,483.
chew on that for a while you jackass:deal :hi:
No, you said $10.00 US in England bitch. Not talking about prices in the US cocksucker. NIOce attempt to backtrack. Now go back to smelling your own asshole smug bitch. :thumbsup
Caper
07-18-2007, 11:49 PM
Oh yeah I forgot to mention that Wright and hopkins are suppose to be fighters that have no drawing power:rofl
Hardcore fans find great interest in this bout, I'm not jumping out of my thong for it but I wouldnt mind watching it being a hardcore fan. Its a fight of great importance for the history books.
thewoo
07-18-2007, 11:49 PM
It doesn't need to be an advantage over Floyd, as I don't think he has one, but moreso it pits Hatton at a weight he's better suited for. I just don't like Hatton @ 147.
The reason that you don't like Hatton at 147 is because the one time that you saw him there he was fighting a guy that he gave up a significant size advantage to. That would not be the case with Floyd no matter what weight the fight takes place at. It would be kind of like when Floyd fought mitchell. Just two 140 pounders fighting at 147. Even when he fights at 140 Hatton steps into the ring weighing more than 147
1lehudson
07-18-2007, 11:51 PM
No, you said $10.00 US in England bitch. Not talking about prices in the US cocksucker. NIOce attempt to backtrack. Now go back to smelling your own asshole smug bitch. :thumbsupI was give'n an example, but i clearly made my point. Now its you that is trying to backtrack, cuz once again ive have done an easy job of showing you to be the dumbass you are. Note I also undershot the price of US tickets in the first post, but you didnt mention that did you:hey
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 11:52 PM
The reason that you don't like Hatton at 147 is because the one time that you saw him there he was fighting a guy that he gave up a significant size advantage to. That would not be the case with Floyd no matter what weight the fight takes place at. It would be kind of like when Floyd fought mitchell. Just two 140 pounders fighting at 147. Even when he fights at 140 Hatton steps into the ring weighing more than 147
That may or may not be the case. WHile I do think Collazo was a big part of Hatton looking average, being a slick southpaw, most fighters rarely look good againt them. But like I said in an earlier post. I would prefer to see Hatton at 147 AGAIN before fighting Floyd there. To see how he handles the move.
1lehudson
07-18-2007, 11:52 PM
Hardcore fans find great interest in this bout, I'm not jumping out of my thong for it but I wouldnt mind watching it being a hardcore fan. Its a fight of great importance for the history books.Oh I cant wait for this fight. I was merely making a point to Lanceundereducated:p
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 11:54 PM
I was give'n an example, but i clearly made my point. Now its you that is trying to backtrack, cuz once again ive have done an easy job of showing you to be the dumbass you are. Note I also undershot the price of US tickets in the first post, but you didnt mention that did you:hey
:patsch
Jesus your an idiot....you tried to make some buillshit point on UK ticket prices. Uhm, YOU'RE WRONG.
How did you show me wrong? I never said ANYTHING about US ticket prices jackass. For you to have *ahem* corrected me, I would have had to say something.
Lance_Uppercut
07-18-2007, 11:54 PM
Oh I cant wait for this fight. I was merely making a point to Lanceundereducated:p
Uhm, you actually had no point.:lol:
1lehudson
07-18-2007, 11:58 PM
:patsch
Jesus your an idiot....you tried to make some buillshit point on UK ticket prices. Uhm, YOU'RE WRONG.
How did you show me wrong? I never said ANYTHING about US ticket prices jackass. For you to have *ahem* corrected me, I would have had to say something.I think that my fun with you is over, its like talking to a 10 year old. You get cornered and start to go all over the place. Clearly a logical person could see my point in the first post, you rebutted that point and was proved wrong. once again I was just making an example of prices and you know that, as i stated both prices were higher then I stated in the first post, but you being the moron you are only pointed out the one that promoted your argument.
C Money
07-18-2007, 11:59 PM
I believe the fight should be at 40 for legacy/title sake but honestly?? Floyds not a big ww and the weight difference shouldnt make much difference in this MATCHUP.
Pbf isnt Collazo in style, stance, or use of size. Making the fight is more important than 40 or 47. Let Ricky come in at whatever he feels best at IMO:good
Lance_Uppercut
07-19-2007, 12:02 AM
I think that my fun with you is over, its like talking to a 10 year old. You get cornered and start to go all over the place. Clearly a logical person could see my point in the first post, you rebutted that point and was proved wrong. once again I was just making an example of prices and you know that, as i stated both prices were higher then I stated in the first post, but you being the moron you are only pointed out the one that promoted your argument.
:roll: Excuuuuuuuuse me if I call your BULLSHIT... Yeah...$10 tix...wow!!!:patsch
1lehudson
07-19-2007, 12:06 AM
I believe the fight should be at 40 for legacy/title sake but honestly?? Floyds not a big ww and the weight difference shouldnt make much difference in this MATCHUP.
Pbf isnt Collazo in style, stance, or use of size. Making the fight is more important than 40 or 47. Let Ricky come in at whatever he feels best at IMO:goodYou know at the end of the day I dont think that it really matters. To me its just the fact that Hatton claims to want the fight then he starts making demands. or the fight has to be in the UK or it has to be at 140, before you know it he will want a 10 foot ring and floyd to fight with a rope around his left foot. Thing is Floyd has more options then hatton, and really this isnt a fight that I as a Floyd fan want to see. For two reason. One I dont see it as being a very good fight, I think that Floyd wins easy. Two because once floyd does win easy those same asses that are making all this noise now will be the same ones say that floyd fought a smaller guy that didnt prove anything. I would much rather see Floyd fight Cotto, or Williams, but even that would be grounds for bitching, cuz it would then be said that floyd ducked Hatton. its the same marry-go-round that we have seen with every top p4p fighter since the start of P4p with Ray Robinson.
1lehudson
07-19-2007, 12:08 AM
:roll: Excuuuuuuuuse me if I call your BULLSHIT... Yeah...$10 tix...wow!!!:patsch:nut :huh
C Money
07-19-2007, 12:16 AM
You know at the end of the day I dont think that it really matters. To me its just the fact that Hatton claims to want the fight then he starts making demands. or the fight has to be in the UK or it has to be at 140, before you know it he will want a 10 foot ring and floyd to fight with a rope around his left foot. Thing is Floyd has more options then hatton, and really this isnt a fight that I as a Floyd fan want to see. For two reason. One I dont see it as being a very good fight, I think that Floyd wins easy. Two because once floyd does win easy those same asses that are making all this noise now will be the same ones say that floyd fought a smaller guy that didnt prove anything. I would much rather see Floyd fight Cotto, or Williams, but even that would be grounds for bitching, cuz it would then be said that floyd ducked Hatton. its the same marry-go-round that we have seen with every top p4p fighter since the start of P4p with Ray Robinson.
Opinions turn to facts, in the ring:good
Honestly, SSM, Cotto, Williams, and Hatton should ALL BE FACED BY FLOYD and it would still leave him under 45 fights. Floyd and his minions do more bitching than fighting and its LUDACRIS:yep
Do what many other great ATG Champions have done, man up, fight the fights, and let the legacy fall where it may.
I believe Floyd's not at all what he's cracked up to be, but there's only one way to find out EITHER WAY.....:bbb NOT :blabla
The history of Champions IS CLEAR:happy
1lehudson
07-19-2007, 12:23 AM
Opinions turn to facts, in the ring:good
Honestly, SSM, Cotto, Williams, and Hatton should ALL BE FACED BY FLOYD and it would still leave him under 45 fights. Floyd and his minions do more bitching than fighting and its LUDACRIS:yep
Do what many other great ATG Champions have done, man up, fight the fights, and let the legacy fall where it may.
I believe Floyd's not at all what he's cracked up to be, but there's only one way to find out EITHER WAY.....:bbb NOT :blabla
The history of Champions IS CLEAR:happyProblem is it dont really matter. Before the fight with Oscar you cats were saying "OH NOW Floyds going to get, now he is fighting a real fighter. oscar is going to knock his head off" After the fight Oscar was shot, Floyd just ran blah blah blah. It will be more of the same no matter who he fights. hatton will be too small, and if the fight is at 147 then Floyd made him fight at a weight that he was no good at. Shane will be old, and well past his prime, Williams will became a one hit wonder, Cotto will be green. I have heard it all before. One story before the fight a different one after.
C Money
07-19-2007, 12:34 AM
Problem is it dont really matter. Before the fight with Oscar you cats were saying "OH NOW Floyds going to get, now he is fighting a real fighter. oscar is going to knock his head off" After the fight Oscar was shot, Floyd just ran blah blah blah. It will be more of the same no matter who he fights. hatton will be too small, and if the fight is at 147 then Floyd made him fight at a weight that he was no good at. Shane will be old, and well past his prime, Williams will became a one hit wonder, Cotto will be green. I have heard it all before. One story before the fight a different one after.
You cats:huh ??
I picked PBF UD from the day they announced the fight and said PLAINLY that DLH couldnt beat SSM in his Prime, he wasnt beating PBF at the end of his career. It was officially a SD but that's BS, IMO, i scored it 115-113 for PBF. BTW?? I've heard ALL THE EXCUSES BEFORE and dont make generalizations, as you just did, because its BS. Deal with poster's on a 1 to 1 basis.
STop the BS, and do what graet champions have always done FIGHT THE FIGHTS. It will DAMN SURE MAKE A DIFFERENCE:good
Alo2006
07-19-2007, 01:13 AM
Do you promise? Also if Hatton wins a UD will you re-register as oldanalqueen? The bookies called it a long shot when I bet on Hatton to stop Tyszu and when I bet on JC to beat Lacy.
Well your luck will run out on this one :yep Mayweather will put Hatton on his ass at 140. I hope he does fight Hatton at 140. More speed and power for Mayweather :bbb
1lehudson
07-19-2007, 05:57 AM
You cats:huh ??
I picked PBF UD from the day they announced the fight and said PLAINLY that DLH couldnt beat SSM in his Prime, he wasnt beating PBF at the end of his career. It was officially a SD but that's BS, IMO, i scored it 115-113 for PBF. BTW?? I've heard ALL THE EXCUSES BEFORE and dont make generalizations, as you just did, because its BS. Deal with poster's on a 1 to 1 basis.
STop the BS, and do what graet champions have always done FIGHT THE FIGHTS. It will DAMN SURE MAKE A DIFFERENCE:goodso you make your excuses ahead of time kinda the way that you are now saying that the fight should be at 140, so when it happens at 147 you can discredit it by saying Floyd wasnt a true champion cuz he would go down in weight to fight a guy that he tried to fight twice when they were in the same weightclass.
Kinda hard to deal on one on one basis when so many make the same excuses. My point is if you dont like a fighter it doesnt matter what they do or who they fight cuz it will never be enough. It will always be the guy that he didnt fight, or the weight he wouldnt move up to that you will throw up to make your argument.
We do this for fun, no one is going to change anyone eles mind about anything on these broads:hi:
C Money
07-19-2007, 12:26 PM
so you make your excuses ahead of time kinda the way that you are now saying that the fight should be at 140, so when it happens at 147 you can discredit it by saying Floyd wasnt a true champion cuz he would go down in weight to fight a guy that he tried to fight twice when they were in the same weightclass.
Kinda hard to deal on one on one basis when so many make the same excuses. My point is if you dont like a fighter it doesnt matter what they do or who they fight cuz it will never be enough. It will always be the guy that he didnt fight, or the weight he wouldnt move up to that you will throw up to make your argument.
We do this for fun, no one is going to change anyone eles mind about anything on these broads:hi:
My point is you're mind reading skills are TERRIBLE and believe it or not?? Some people are actually capable of respecting factual evidence. Generalizations ARE BULLSHIT.
I'll respect PBF for beating Hatton at 40 or 47, if that happens. There is a short list of top opponents that would add much needed respect and legitimacy to Floyd's legacy and while I'll never like the man, I can respect ACTION.
Caper
07-19-2007, 12:37 PM
You boys may think I'm a bit out of my mind but I don't see how Hatton beats PBF at anyweight, anywhere and at any point in history. Even at the tender age of 85 PBF outpoints Hatton on the steps of their nursing home.
While Junior Soprano takes bets.
C Money
07-19-2007, 12:41 PM
You boys may think I'm a bit out of my mind but I don't see how Hatton beats PBF at anyweight, anywhere and at any point in history. Even at the tender age of 85 PBF outpoints Hatton on the steps of their nursing home.
While Junior Soprano takes bets.
Feeling that way doesnt make you crazy. Yet, there's only one way to find OUT and that's :bbb Hatton is a prime undefeated CHAMPION and therefore a worthy challenge and mark for PBF's record.
The fact that Floyd does his best to avoid proving it against top challengers is whats fucked up. It should be more of that famous 'easy money', so let him go out and get it. That's what real champions would do.
Caper
07-19-2007, 12:44 PM
Feeling that way doesnt make you crazy. Yet, there's only one way to find OUT and that's :bbb Hatton is a prime undefeated CHAMPION and therefore a worthy challenge and mark for PBF's record.
The fact that Floyd does his best to avoid proving it against top challengers is whats fucked up. It should be more of that famous 'easy money', so let him go out and get it. That's what real champions would do.
Agreed.....
Floyd should prove it in the ring, I think he will. Lets hope he stays in the pocket and bangs with the mad hatter.
C Money
07-19-2007, 12:48 PM
Agreed.....
Floyd should prove it in the ring, I think he will. Lets hope he stays in the pocket and bangs with the mad hatter.
Well, I'll be rooting for Hatton, but will give Floyd props for making and winning, if that's how it shakes out:good I hope Hatton is a big wad of cash that fills that pocket til it bursts:yep Though admittedly, PBF will be the favorite.
Caper
07-19-2007, 12:56 PM
Well, I'll be rooting for Hatton, but will give Floyd props for making and winning, if that's how it shakes out:good I hope Hatton is a big wad of cash that fills that pocket til it bursts:yep Though admittedly, PBF will be the favorite.
Well logically speaking PBF has every advantage over Hatton though Hatton has that X factor that so many have neglected in the past and that's his determination for victory so it makes for high drama either way. I'm not a huge fan of either though I had a small passion for Floyd in my younger days before he started going into the whole money throwing stage of his career.
if anything PBF is even sharper at 140 than he is above, so Hatton would have a better shot fighting at 147...the 140 version of PBF destroys Hatton...
hitman_hatton1
07-19-2007, 06:14 PM
i'd like to see it at welter or a catchweight.
that way floyd's title is on the line and no one can moan about mayweather draining his self to make weight.
either way this ain't an easy night for floyd. :bbb
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