Hatton fight - Opinions

[onourway]

Well worth £15. :yep

Thought it was a really good fight.

Hatton's learned no new tricks.

Stamina was much improved.

Lazcano is a warrior.

He'll beat seven shades of shite out of Malignaggi.

[TFFP]

The prick still annoys me, but I've got to say he looked his best since Tszyu in there

Looked sharp, the loss definitely wasn't on his mind. What struck me was the accuracy of his punching, he was thinking more than usual. The only thing I would say is his defence was the same old open shit, and it is hard to judge stamina when you have everything going your way, but I can only say it looked fine

[John18]

Sorry guys, I was left deflated by the performance.

Too many mistakes, a top guy with a decent punch takes him out.

Sadly, he's on the way out

[faisal]

hes still the best in a weak division, i'm pritty sure he'll be undefeated at light welter over the next 2 years,

[dan-b]

It was okay but I don't think Ricky himself was particularly happy with his performance. Lazcano was brave but not really competitive & the result was never really in doubt. Hatton will give Paulie a pasting but as for a rematch with Floyd, as is the plan, it's plain he has no chance.

[John18]

I wouldn't be surprised if Bradley could beat Hatton at his own game these days.

[trotter]

Not good enough

I'm a fan so I'll cut him some slack - he was understandably over eager, he has been ill in camp, Lazcano was tough and very game indeed.

But he was hurt a couple of times, his defence was nowhere, and it confirmed to me that he is well past his peak, althought the stamina seemed decent enough.

He's still the best at 140 but I've gotta say, if he was in with a live, tough, hungry fighter - Bradley for instance - has he got the resistance to tough it out? I don't know.

I think a Floyd fight is now unwinnable, which I thought he had a slight chance of pulling off in different circumstances before tonight.

[toffeejack]

Not good enough

I'm a fan so I'll cut him some slack - he was understandably over eager, he has been ill in camp, Lazcano was tough and very game indeed.

But he was hurt a couple of times, his defence was nowhere, and it confirmed to me that he is well past his peak, althought the stamina seemed decent enough.

He's still the best at 140 but I've gotta say, if he was in with a live, tough, hungry fighter - Bradley for instance - has he got the resistance to tough it out? I don't know.

I think a Floyd fight is now unwinnable, which I thought he had a slight chance of pulling off in different circumstances before tonight.

Yeah agree with all of that.

Hatton is on his way down no doubt. But I still feel he can take Maliganggi.

[dan-b]

How anyone could have thought Hatton had a chance of beating Floyd in different circumstances is beyond me. Unless the circumstances involve Floyd having his hands tied behind his back.

[maka]

thought hatton done well, but if he had went in with combo's and backed off again, the fight would have been a lot more comfortable for him, he was taking shots on the inside that he didnt need to.

big up to lazcano mind you............some heart

[onourway]

He's certainly lost something in his aura or whatever you want to call it. He looks beatable.

Spot on.

I get that feeling too. There was a time when I felt Hatton looked unbeatable at 140, he now looks very vulnerable. Not sure if there's anybody at 140 to take advantage though.

Pac Vs Hatton could be closer than people think. (If it happens)

[dan-b]

thought hatton done well, but if he had went in with combo's and backed off again, the fight would have been a lot more comfortable for him, he was taking shots on the inside that he didnt need to.

big up to lazcano mind you............some heart

Maybe people need to accept those days are over.

[dan-b]

Pac Vs Hatton could be closer than people think. (If it happens)

It seems more likely than a Floyd rematch.

[trotter]

How anyone could have thought Hatton had a chance of beating Floyd in different circumstances is beyond me. Unless the circumstances involve Floyd having his hands tied behind his back.

Well, whether you want to ridicule this view or not, I thought that in the UK, with Cortez out of the equation, Hatton could be much more competitive.

We've done the arguments on all those points to death, It was my view, it isn't any more, I suspected Hatton was in decline and tonight confirmed it to me.

2004 Hatton had a chance against Floyd at 140. 2008 Hatton has virtually no chance against Floyd at any weight never mind 147.

[TFFP]

I happen to disagree Hatton had more of a chance at 140, at any time. Mayweather has been getting worse as well. It isn't noticeable unless you have watched him through the weights, he was unbelievable at 130, getting progressively worse each time

He would just be even quicker at 140, catching Hatton at will

[Jack]

I wouldn't be surprised if Bradley could beat Hatton at his own game these days.
:lol:

[JonOli]

I happen to disagree Hatton had more of a chance at 140, at any time. Mayweather has been getting worse as well. It isn't noticeable unless you have watched him through the weights, he was unbelievable at 130, getting progressively worse each time

He would just be even quicker at 140, catching Hatton at will

Why did Floyd want the fight at 147, so much, if he could have beaten Hatton so much more easily at 140. Surely he and his team would have thought of this.

[dan-b]

Why did Floyd want the fight at 147, so much, if he could have beaten Hatton so much more easily at 140. Surely he and his team would have thought of this.

Oh for fuck sake do we really need to do this again?

HATTON WAS OFFERED THE GOD DAMN SON OF A BITCH FUCKING FIGHT AT 140 AND HE TURNED IT DOWN! OKAY? CAN THAT BE THE END OF THIS?

[JonOli]

On a rematch


"You wouldn't get Floyd to come down any less than 147," "I think Floyd would say I'm the champion at 147 and if you want me again, you're going to have to come up to me. I'm not going to come down to you."
Hattons Mangaer/promoter Ray Hatton

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[dan-b]

On a rematch


"You wouldn't get Floyd to come down any less than 147," "I think Floyd would say I'm the champion at 147 and if you want me again, you're going to have to come up to me. I'm not going to come down to you."
Hattons Mangaer/promoter Ray Hatton

And that proves what? When Floyd was WBC champ at 140, Hatton was offered the fight. Is that clear enough for you numbnuts?

[TFFP]

To be fair, JonOli is a dense fuck. He's just finished wanking himself until hes practically blind over Ricky Hatton. Guy can't see what he's posting.

[Fat Joe]

To be fair, JonOli is a dense fuck.

Maybe but he can quote Manny Pacquaio's body measurements from memory

[JonOli]

Whats this arseholes anonymous.

[dan-b]

Whats this arseholes anonymous.

Nah we just want you to shut up.

[GazOC]

Hatton did OK, the big question before hand from people was about his alleged declining stamina. He fought the fight at a decent pace with no signs of gassing and picked his shots well.

A solid 7/10 and a good comeback fight.

[JonOli]

Go watch at home with the Hattons, again, the lot of you obsessive Haters have seen it at least once.

I don't mind Ricky Hatton, but could never be bothered to watch that total bollox.

[TFFP]

Go watch at home with the Hattons, again, the lot of you obsessive Haters have seen it at least once.

I don't mind Ricky Hatton, but could never be bothered to watch that total bollox. Give us a fuckin break, how naive do you think we are? :rofl

You didn't miss a damn frame of that shit.

Oh, and you 'don't mind him' is understatement of the year

[JonOli]

You guys are obsessed about him, seriously.

[Fat Joe]

What's all this drama with the ref? There must be about 10 threads on this over in the general forum.

[JonOli]

Hatton did OK, the big question before hand from people was about his alleged declining stamina. He fought the fight at a decent pace with no signs of gassing and picked his shots well.

A solid 7/10 and a good comeback fight.

Agreed. The fight tested his stamina, and brought back possible lost confidence. It was an easy points win for Hatton and couldn't have asked for a huge amount more from a comeback fight. Hatton will never be a slick technical boxer. An early KO wouldn't have really tested or shown much; he couldnd get it anyway.

Somethings clearly could have been better though...

Worrying signs that he was clearly rocked on several occasions as well.

7/10 is fair, a very enjoyable fight as well.

[GazOC]

What's all this drama with the ref? There must be about 10 threads on this over in the general forum.

Honestly its fuck all. You may not believe me but wait until you see the fight. The ref had a good fight.

[dan-b]

Honestly its fuck all. You may not believe me but wait until you see the fight. The ref had a good fight.

I'll vouch for that. I haven't read any of it but I should imagine it's just the usual bullshit from the keyboard warriors on the general forum.

[Mikey]

Hatton put up a near white wash, was expected against who he was facing, the guy Lazcano was there to make Hatton look good, maybe looking for a Castillo fight all over again, although in Lazcano you had a more motivated boxer than Castillo.

Hatton easily outworked Lazcano, although if your in the Hatton camp you would be seriously worried that the biggest punch of the night belonged to Lazcano, and it did hurt Hatton, plus I reckon Lazcano must have landed nearly all the punches he threw, just Lazcano doesnt have the abilty or stamina to keep it up, for a boxer who didnt put much input at times, it was strange to see him gas like he did, Hatton maybe should have stopped Lazcano in the late rounds but Hatton's punches held no real power.

Hatton for me is certainly beatable at 140, while this was a near white wash and a wide UD it did show where Hatton was weak at, much like the Urango fight.

[Fat Joe]

I'll vouch for that. I haven't read any of it but I should imagine it's just the usual bullshit from the keyboard warriors on the general forum.

Hatton on the verge of being stopped - that kind of thing.

Also Hatton was there for the taking but Lazcano held back so he could pick up his bonus:patsch

[onourway]

The main gripe people have is with the 10th round.

Lazcano hit Hatton with a body shot, then Hatton half bent down....and Lazcano pulled his head further down and then drilled him in the ribs twice. So the ref sent Hatton to one corner and spoke to Lazcano....as Lazcano went to go after Hatton, Hatton was standing with his foot in the air, because his laces were undone....so Hatton was allowed to get them tied up.

Now in the mind of the yank keyboard warriors, Hatton was going to be stopped by Lazcano (:rofl ) and the ref stopped him from doing so and shouldn't have let Ricky have his laces tied.

[dan-b]

The main gripe people have is with the 10th round.

Lazcano hit Hatton with a body shot, then Hatton half bent down....and Lazcano pulled his head further down and then drilled him in the ribs twice. So the ref sent Hatton to one corner and spoke to Lazcano....as Lazcano went to go after Hatton, Hatton was standing with his foot in the air, because his laces were undone....so Hatton was allowed to get them tied up.

Now in the mind of the yank keyboard warriors, Hatton was going to be stopped by Lazcano (:rofl ) and the ref stopped him from doing so and shouldn't have let Ricky have his laces tied.

Talk about clutching at straws. Fuck I'm too tired for this. Night guys.:D

[Betty Swollocks]

Spot on.

I get that feeling too. There was a time when I felt Hatton looked unbeatable at 140, he now looks very vulnerable. Not sure if there's anybody at 140 to take advantage though.

Pac Vs Hatton could be closer than people think. (If it happens)

was that about the time he was fighting Steve Smith, Pedersen, Vilches, ancient Oliveira etc?
Face it mate, as his level of oppoostion has gone up he's looks worse. That's natural. Most probably he was never as good as you thought he was.
did he even beat a single top 10 140lb fighter before getting in the ring with Tszyu?

[trotter]

was that about the time he was fighting Steve Smith, Pedersen, Vilches, ancient Oliveira etc?
Face it mate, as his level of oppoostion has gone up he's looks worse. That's natural. Most probably he was never as good as you thought he was.
did he even beat a single top 10 140lb fighter before getting in the ring with Tszyu?

Well, he beat the number one at 140. So it's kinda irrelevant.

His record up until Tszyu was plenty good enough. Tackie, Magee, Phillips, Oliviera. Not elite names but decent enough and all comfortable wins. Of course he had a year or wo treading water that never should've happened.

When he got the bit between his teeth leading up to Tszyu I think he would've been even money to beat anyone at 140 including Floyd.

The decline post-Tszyu has been sharp though in my opinion.

[mrbassie]

I thought he looked the best he has for a while overall although a bit patchy. His punch resistance seemed less than it was but that can perhaps be attributed to the illness in the buildup. It reminded me a bit of the Tackie fight where Hatton was stung to the body a few times, don't think he likes the taste of his own medicine.
Lazcano's a tough nut though, I thought Hatton would have had him out of there around 7/8 but he refused to buckle.
Refereeing was poor, anyone else notice the clinches were always broken up when Hatton looked at the ref to do it? I'm not saying it made any difference to the outcome but it annoys me.
Haven't seen the malinaggi fight yet so I can't comment on that but on that form Hatton looks a little more beatable at 140 than I expected, benefit of the doubt though he has been campaining at a higher weight and come back down, apparently was ill in the build up so those should be taken into account. I think he should fight again fairly soon. On that form Hatton beats the Witter who lost to Bradley comfortably, Witter will have to show a fair bit of improvement in his next bout to rekindle interest.
If it were up to me I'd have Hatton in another warm up asap before the proposed Malinaggi date. He's not active enough but then again who is these days?

[trotter]

I thought he looked the best he has for a while overall although a bit patchy. His punch resistance seemed less than it was but that can perhaps be attributed to the illness in the buildup. It reminded me a bit of the Tackie fight where Hatton was stung to the body a few times, don't think he likes the taste of his own medicine.
Lazcano's a tough nut though, I thought Hatton would have had him out of there around 7/8 but he refused to buckle.
Refereeing was poor, anyone else notice the clinches were always broken up when Hatton looked at the ref to do it? I'm not saying it made any difference to the outcome but it annoys me.
Haven't seen the malinaggi fight yet so I can't comment on that but on that form Hatton looks a little more beatable at 140 than I expected, benefit of the doubt though he has been campaining at a higher weight and come back down, apparently was ill in the build up so those should be taken into account. I think he should fight again fairly soon. On that form Hatton beats the Witter who lost to Bradley comfortably, Witter will have to show a fair bit of improvement in his next bout to rekindle interest.
If it were up to me I'd have Hatton in another warm up asap before the proposed Malinaggi date. He's not active enough but then again who is these days?

I don't agree on the clinches thing, it doesn't seem that way to me

Lazcano was clinching and the ref was trying to stop him at times, seemed fair enough. Of course Hatton would protest, Lazcano was smothering him.

However, Hatton smothers his own work too. Numerous occasions he'd get the first punch off, land on the way in, but when he got in, he'd lean on. This meant he couldn't land more than 2 or 3 punch combo's.

Of course this is his style but he seemed more spritely with it a few years back. He looks like he enjoys the rest the leaning on provides these days.

[Claypole]

I thought Hatton did just fine, considering the heavy defeat against PBF. I did worry that he seemed to ship heavy shots a bit too often, but then he always does, and his opponent was actually a lot better than most people thought.

I thought that stamina would be the biggest issue through the later rounds, but I was quite impressed with how fresh he looked at the end.
It's clear that his best days are behind him, but he still has enough left to batter Maliganggi, and Witter was lucky he got beat on points by Bradley, as Hatton would have stopped him, IMO.

[pne buz]

Firstly well done Juan Lazcano a warrior.Anyway thought Ricky looked nervous first 2 rounds and then grew into the fight and looked very assured.Glad he got some rounds in and the fight served the exact purpose it was meant to do.He will be twice as good next time and will blow Malignaggi away within 6 who as i suspected is well over rated.After that i dont know,all i do know is there is life in the Hitman yet and another memorable performance against a decent fighter is still in the locker. 7/10

[dwilson]

Hatton performed at his best but we all know that is not to a great standard. 10/10.

[kurt2006]

Judging by last nights fight I don't think PBF will be having any sleepless nights. I think PBF will put on more of a show and do a better job than last time.

Very convenient for the lace to open in that round when Lacanzo rocked him.

[mattress]

Very convenient for the lace to open in that round when Lacanzo rocked him.

don't insult your own intelligence mate.

[Claypole]

Very convenient for the lace to open in that round when Lacanzo rocked him.If a fighter is rocked, the traditional way to buy a bit of time is to hold (Ricky knows a thing or two about holding), or to spit the gumshield out. Stopping to undo boot laces whilst wearing boxing gloves, whilst having a fight with another man is inpractical to say the least.

[Benjiabc]

my honest opinion is that hatton did well, i initially expected hatton to get him out of there but as the fight started it became clear that lazcano was tougher then expected and landed a few decent shots of his own i thought hatton looked the best he has for a while but i did not like the way he still tends to jump in with no defence, i thought lazcano had hatton troubled in the tenth or eighth cant remember. i am a big hatton fan and love seeing the guy fight, but i think when he fights a hard hitter he gets KO'd again i am affraid to say. although i think he will beat paulie

[kurt2006]

don't insult your own intelligence mate.

Was it not convenenient ?

He gets rocked and notices his lace needs doing up, buys himself a good 30 seconds.

[kurt2006]

If a fighter is rocked, the traditional way to buy a bit of time is to hold (Ricky knows a thing or two about holding), or to spit the gumshield out. Stopping to undo boot laces whilst wearing boxing gloves, whilst having a fight with another man is inpractical to say the least.

Who said anything about him undoiing the lace ?

Very convenient for him to notice the open lace when he was rocked. The lace was not exactly tripping him up.

[dan-b]

Was it not convenenient ?

He gets rocked and notices his lace needs doing up, buys himself a good 30 seconds.

I think it's a moot point. No way was Hatton going to lose that fight.

[Cobbler]

Very convenient for him to notice the open lace when he was rocked. The lace was not exactly tripping him up.

He noticed it when he was sent to a neutral corner for Lazcano to be warned by the referee. If it 'wasn't exactly tripping him up' then wouldn't it be more likely to be noticed at a break in the action than when he was concentrating on fighting?

[kurt2006]

I think it's a moot point. No way was Hatton going to lose that fight.

Yes he was not going to lose as the next fight against the second best Malignaggi is already signed.

He was rocked and just a shame Lacanzo did not have the KO power or strength to take advantage.

I can see now why the Hattons never mention names like Cotto and Judah (he can still get down in weight), they would eat Hatton for breakfast.

[onourway]

Yes he was not going to lose as the next fight against the second best Malignaggi is already signed.

He was rocked and just a shame Lacanzo did not have the KO power or strength to take advantage.

I can see now why the Hattons never mention names like Cotto and Judah (he can still get down in weight), they would eat Hatton for breakfast.

Why would he mention Judah? :nut

Cotto and Hatton should have fought at 140, Cotto moving to 147 permanently ruined that.

[Claypole]

Very convenient for him to notice the open lace when he was rocked. The lace was not exactly tripping him up.So what are you saying? Hatton was about to be stopped, but was saved by the boot lace incident? Are you suggesting this was reminiscent Cassius Clay's torn glove against Henry Cooper?
This really had no bearing whatsoever on the way the fight panned out, I don't understand why you are moaning so much about it.

[onourway]

, I don't understand why you are moaning so much about it.

He's a hater clutching at straws.

[Claypole]

Yes he was not going to lose as the next fight against the second best Malignaggi is already signed.Are you suggesting the result was rigged?

He was rocked and just a shame Lacanzo did not have the KO power or strength to take advantage.This is the nature of fights. I'm not sure what your point is here.

I can see now why the Hattons never mention names like Cotto and Judah (he can still get down in weight), they would eat Hatton for breakfast.Really? Exactly the same was said before Hatton fought Tszyu. Cotto would be a very tough fight, but Judah? I doubt it very much.

[kurt2006]

Are you suggesting the result was rigged?

This is the nature of fights. I'm not sure what your point is here.

Really? Exactly the same was said before Hatton fought Tszyu. Cotto would be a very tough fight, but Judah? I doubt it very much.

You are the first person to mention rigging.

Point is Lacanzo rocked him and an extra long break in the figth gave Hatton breathing space.

:lol: Oh so Judah would be an easy fight ? Zab would dance round Hatton all night and beat him easily. Cotto is no go territory as he would KO Hatton quicker than PBF then the chances of those big money fights would subside.

[kurt2006]

Why would he mention Judah? :nut

Cotto and Hatton should have fought at 140, Cotto moving to 147 permanently ruined that.

Because Judah is still a big name and could get down to 140 or face him at 147. I understand why he would not mention him, Judah would be over like a flash for the money and box Hattons ears off.

He never mentioned Cotto much when he was at 140, all this shit now about fighting the best (maliganaggi) when Cotto has moved up. Anyhow Hatton is happy to move up to face PBF so what stopping him fighting Cotto at 147 ?

[kurt2006]

He's a hater clutching at straws.

No not really I quite enjoyed the fight especially as the last few big cards have been quite boring and last weeks german card was pretty shit. Good to see Hatton beat Lacanzo who is not exactly a huge name at 140.

[mattress]

The lace was not exactly tripping him up.

C'mon. You cannot be serious? The lace was undone and, by the rules, needed re-tying. If Hatton was in the middle of being knocked from pillar to post then I'd understand wholeheartedly.

I don't think it could be compared to Hopkins' crying like a baby for being stroked on the nutsack by Calzaghe just to get a breather??

[kurt2006]

C'mon. You cannot be serious? The lace was undone and, by the rules, needed re-tying. If Hatton was in the middle of being knocked from pillar to post then I'd understand wholeheartedly.

I don't think it could be compared to Hopkins' crying like a baby for being stroked on the nutsack by Calzaghe just to get a breather??

Hatton was rocked another few punches like that and he would have been on his backside. The lace up bought him some breathng space.

Yes Bhops was worse cus unless he had lympoedema bollacks there was no way that hit him in the privates. He was looking to get points knocked off JC but it backfired as everyone knew he was acting and the crowd who were bored with his hugging began to boo him.

[onourway]

Because Judah is still a big name and could get down to 140 or face him at 147. I understand why he would not mention him, Judah would be over like a flash for the money and box Hattons ears off.

He never mentioned Cotto much when he was at 140, all this shit now about fighting the best (maliganaggi) when Cotto has moved up. Anyhow Hatton is happy to move up to face PBF so what stopping him fighting Cotto at 147 ?

Judah's happy being a gate keeper at 147, seems to get him plenty of big fights.

If Hatton could stay with Judah in the first 5 rounds then he'd win.

They did mention Cotto at 140, Arum actually said they'd fight in a years time.....then Cotto moved to 147.

Cotto's a big WW, Mayweather isn't.

[Max Molyneux]

Judah has power and more speed In his hooks than Juan, Hatton should stay away from Judah.

[kurt2006]

Judah has power and more speed In his hooks than Juan, Hatton should stay away from Judah.

He will stay clear, that why he never gets mentioned by the Hattons and instead the likes of Malignaggi and Lacanzo are trumpeted as greats by Ray Hatton.

[TFFP]

Judah is the worst opponent you could possibly find for Hatton. Look how bad he is against southpaws, Collazo and Magee. He was put on his arse by the latter. Then you consider the speed of Judah's counters, which Hatton is susceptible to, and the KO power he has and its good night

Overall, he gets KTFO early

[onourway]

Judah is the worst opponent you could possibly find for Hatton. Look how bad he is against southpaws, Collazo and Magee. He was put on his arse by the latter. Then you consider the speed of Judah's counters, which Hatton is susceptible to, and the KO power he has and its good night

Overall, he gets KTFO early

Fight of two halves for me.

Judah has his chance to win in the first 6 rounds, Hatton has his chance to win the last 6 rounds.

[TFFP]

Fight of two halves for me.

Judah has his chance to win in the first 6 rounds, Hatton has his chance to win the last 6 rounds.
Hatton's chance of getting knocked out in the first 6 is significant

He got shaken a bit last night, I don't know whether he is more susceptible to punches these days or whether it was just a good shot or two. What is clear, is Judah has the sort of speed and power he won't see coming on those shots, not exactly good omens...

[mike464]

Consider that this was a non-title fight against someone picked because he had very little chance of winning. I'm not trying to take away from Hatton but to say he was as good as when he beat Zoo is silly.

[pne buz]

Best 140 fighter there is,i think me you and 99.9% of boxers would settle for that in a career.If he moved up and lost to Cotto is there any shame in that?.I think he would beat Judah but whether he did or he didnt so what.Hatton is and has been one of Britains best fighters in the last 10 years.He is exciting and extremley likeable and has been a credit to British sport.So what if there are a couple of fighters in and around his weight that would beat him!Is that grounds for some of the ridiculous knowledgless shite that is posted about him on here?Answer no.Pathetic jealous rants off armchair experts is all they are.I notice all the haters watched the fight also:lol: .If i hate somebody ie Man Unit*d i just dont watch them.So if you watch him you either secretley like him or you are very sad men sitting there wanting your own countryman to lose.Tossers

[mattress]

Judah has power and more speed In his hooks than Juan, Hatton should stay away from Judah.

Judah would certainly spell trouble, no doubt.

[PowerPuncher]

Why did Floyd want the fight at 147, so much, if he could have beaten Hatton so much more easily at 140. Surely he and his team would have thought of this.

He offered the fight to Hatton numerous times at 140 in 2005 and 2006, the Hattons actually wanted the fight at 147 according to someone at Sports Network

[mike464]

He offered the fight to Hatton numerous times at 140 in 2005 and 2006, the Hattons actually wanted the fight at 147 according to someone at Sports NetworkWhen asked about this a while ago PBF said the fight was at 147 because Hatton didn't want his "title" to be on the line.

[PowerPuncher]

When asked about this a while ago PBF said the fight was at 147 because Hatton didn't want his "title" to be on the line.

Yes I remember that, not sure which period PBF was referring too. I dont think PBF wants to go back down to 140 now because he doesnt like weight draining like Hatton does. Hatton weighs more on fight night and more at his walk around weight

[PowerPuncher]

Oh I thought Hatton looked near his best last night. Lazcanno was a decent gatekeeper level. I enjoyed Ricky's performance but Lazcanno was chosen to look good

[Betty Swollocks]

When asked about this a while ago PBF said the fight was at 147 because Hatton didn't want his "title" to be on the line.

obviously, an infact they started playing the 'not me weight' excuse right after the PBF loss. Hatton turned down the fight at 140 more than once when it was offered to him.

a couple of things from the fight

1. the whole thing about Hatton's stamina decline was overplayed, maybe even made up. He's not looked as overwhelming because he's not fighting WBU tin cans any more.
2. His chin is still not the best and if the likes of Lazcano and Collazo have him in trouble then he'll be banjoed by a guy with mustard on his shots, Torres might even do it. All the top dogs at 147 much him.

[mattress]

a couple of things from the fight

1. ................

Didn't think you'd be bothered to watch it.

[kurt2006]

Didn't think you'd be bothered to watch it.

Then people like you would be saying how can you have an opinion on someone you did not watch. :patsch

[dan-b]

Then people like you would be saying how can you have an opinion on someone you did not watch. :patsch

I think the Hatton fanboys are on the verge of becoming worse than the Klitschko fan boys.:lol:

[mike464]

Yes I remember that, not sure which period PBF was referring too. I dont think PBF wants to go back down to 140 now because he doesnt like weight draining like Hatton does. Hatton weighs more on fight night and more at his walk around weightAnother reason they fought at WW: Hatton's last fight was at LWW and Floyd's was at LMW. It seemed unfair for one of them to move 2 divisions so they fought at the one inbetween (where Hatton had already won a title by the way).

[kurt2006]

I think the Hatton fanboys are on the verge of becoming worse than the Klitschko fan boys.:lol:

Does kilt-chko have any fans left ? I watched a bit of his last fight when he was throwing them handbag jabs as if he needed to change his tampon. What a big time pussy Manny has turned Wlad into. No wonder Haye think so little of him.

[dan-b]

Does kilt-chko have any fans left ? I watched a bit of his last fight when he was throwing them handbag jabs as if he needed to change his tampon. What a big time pussy Manny has turned Wlad into. No wonder Haye think so little of him.

I hope Haye tonks him.

[rooq]

considering what he was coming back from, and the heart of his opponent, i thought he did well enough. it wasn't a boring fight, even though his opponent was even more of a grappler than the hitman.

i think the show has served its purpose. malignaggi vs hatton at MSG with hatton starting as the favourite and then a fight with PBF or DLH next up.

[GazOC]

I think the Hatton fanboys are on the verge of becoming worse than the Klitschko fan boys.:lol:

I honestly think there would be less Hatton "fanboys" on here if there were less irrational and petty hate directed towards Hatton. I find myself posting A LOT more often supporting Hatton than I'd like, purely because haters start/ hijack threads pretty much every day.

I know I should ignore it but it does get difficult...:roll:

[TFFP]

Hatton is a fucking prick though.

[GazOC]

Hatton is a fucking prick though.

:patsch

[TFFP]

:patsch
:lol:

I'm winding you up chuckles.

[GazOC]

I know.....:D

[Jack]

I didn't even think Hatton was hurt before the lace thing. He took a couple of decent shots but he wasn't on Queer St. or anything. He wasn't close to being knocked down.

[prideofvbeach]

He was somewhere close to Queer St. in the 10th, but it was close to the end of the round. I think he would have gotten up, ridden the rest of the round and come back in force in the eleventh (which he did anyway).

[GazOC]

He'd taken a couple of shots that got his attention, nothing more.

[mattress]

Then people like you would be saying how can you have an opinion on someone you did not watch. :patsch

That was actually quite funny:D

[Cobbler]

I find myself posting A LOT more often supporting Hatton than I'd like, purely because haters start/ hijack threads pretty much every day.



Ditto.

I find it quite a lot with regard to a few fighters. For instance I think I post much more often than I would like in an on-the-face-of-it negative manner about Kelly Pavlik who I actually love, but gets ridiculously overhyped on the general forum.

It's a shame.

[J-Dog]

Hatton nearly was badly rocked twice, had he have went down in 10th i agree with Pride that he would have gotton up anyway and cracked on the same as his legs were fine, regardless his defence at times was shocking and needs more work...

On the plus side we saw things from Hatton that we needed to see, he has obviously addressed some sides to his game, the way he picked his shots was lovely to watch, his lateral movement was back, patience, stamina, timing, extensive tool box, the list goes on for me.

I saw a much improved Hatton and probably the best Hatton in years.

For the record Laczano was cut from the same piece of rock as Ray Oliveira....hard hard man.

[dan-b]

I think you lot are kidding yourself if you think you are going to see some kind of "new" Hatton with a great defence. Granted his stamina was good but the reason he looked the best he has done in years is because he was in with a fighter that made him look good.

I don't want people to think I'm having a pop at Hatton but this talk of Hatton "working on things" needs to stop. He is what he is, theres no-one to beat him at 140, he stands no chance against Mayweather & his best hope of a super fight is against Pacman.

[trotter]

I think you lot are kidding yourself if you think you are going to see some kind of "new" Hatton with a great defence. Granted his stamina was good but the reason he looked the best he has done in years is because he was in with a fighter that made him look good.

I don't want people to think I'm having a pop at Hatton but this talk of Hatton "working on things" needs to stop. He is what he is, theres no-one to beat him at 140, he stands no chance against Mayweather & his best hope of a super fight is against Pacman.

While he can't acquire a defence at his stage, he was just reckless at times, and against better opposition this costs him

I was looking for more consideration in his work but it wasn't there

If he'd just take his time a little more he could avoid a lot of the shots he takes IMO

[J-Dog]

While he can't acquire a defence at his stage, he was just reckless at times, and against better opposition this costs him

I was looking for more consideration in his work but it wasn't there

If he'd just take his time a little more he could avoid a lot of the shots he takes IMO

He was reckless at times and i think that was partly irradicated vs Laczano, could have been more cautious, but a definate improvement.

I saw more consideration in his work....

[trotter]

He was reckless at times and i think that was partly irradicated vs Laczano, could have been more cautious, but a definate improvement.

I saw more consideration in his work....

I'd love to agree, but I could only give him a 5 or 6 out of 10 the other night, sadly

As dan-b says, maybe I'm expecting him to change when it isn't gonna happen

[dan-b]

While he can't acquire a defence at his stage, he was just reckless at times, and against better opposition this costs him

I was looking for more consideration in his work but it wasn't there

If he'd just take his time a little more he could avoid a lot of the shots he takes IMO

I didn't see him shipping loads of shots or anything. I think you are overeacting a touch. But this is the problem with Hatton in general. He fights an opponent that makes him look good & suddenly the expectations are up again. He never put that much consideration into his attacks he just used to get away with it more. How many times after a fight have you heard him say "I think I smothered my work a touch"? Thats just what he does & he can still be effective with it but he should forget the 147 guys because all he'll get is another beating.

[J-Dog]

I'd love to agree, but I could only give him a 5 or 6 out of 10 the other night, sadly

As dan-b says, maybe I'm expecting him to change when it isn't gonna happen

Fair enough thats what its all about, Boxing is opinions, i just think from opening bell he was very considerate as to how he went in, some of the shots he picked and placed were of 'The Elite' class, towards the end of the fight he was getting careless when he should have taken even more care....but thats Hatton.

I hope he changes, just a few small tweaks to movement, defense and outside work would do him wonders.... they have already brought guys in to help these areas, hope it does.

[JonOli]

Use of the jab effectively, at times, by Hatton was pleasing to see.

[mattress]

I thought he fought pretty well. Good to see he's back.

[JonOli]

I thought he fought pretty well. Good to see he's back.

I agree. 3, or 4, fights at very most then he's gone. Enjoy him while he's here.

[achillesthegreat]

Same old Hatton. Very skilled but technically flawed. Defence doesn't even enter his mind. Good old tenacious Hatton.

Lazcano is tough as shit.

Hatton has learnt nothing from the Floyd fight and a rematch will prove nothing. Ricky had to work on his technique and defence but it looks like he never will. I think it's a mental thing. What he can do and what he does is different things. I've seen Hatton work on defence in training and he can do it. I've seen him look technically better in training but he gets in the ring and just goes for it.

[Fat Joe]

I watched the Hatton fight in the Butlin's Sports Bar last Friday. Might have been to do with his opponent but one thing that struck me was Hatton's handspeed. I've never really thought of him as a really quick fighter but his hands looked really fast, even if his accuracy wasn't the best.

I can't remember which round it was but Hatton did look hurt to me when the ref stopped for his laces. They had music playing in the bar so I couldn't hear the commentator's views on this.

I also watched the N'dou V Malignaggi fight. Even though I kind of knew what was coming up I was nearly crying with laughter at Malignaggi's hair.

In the last few days I have read articles by ****** and Colin Hart suggesting Hatton should retire now but I'm sure he has got enough in the tank to get past Malignaggi.

[ron u.k.]

watched it in a packed bar in cork with a gallon of guinness down my neck,so i don't know if my view is distorted.i just thought he was so,so.stamina wise he looked much improved,and overall he looked closer to the old hatton but without that same intensity.once again i may have had too much to drink but i didn't get the impression he was badly hurt at all in the 8th and 10th and it's nonsense the way people are saying he was saved by the referee stopping it to tie his lace.overall i just get the impression he's a fighter in decline.

[PaddyD1983]

I was happy with his performance given the circumstances (1st fight since being put on his arse) but he led with a left hook far too much! He said after the fight that he was trying to catch him but it consistently missed, had Lazcano been a shade quicker he would have been able to catch him on the way in.

Saying that I dont see him making the same mistake against Malignaggi and I still think the rest of the bunch are nowhere near him!

[toffeejack]

Hatton is on the decline no doubt about that after his last performance.

He still probably has enough to beat Malignaggi but Floyd would beat him even worse this time. He was getting hit way too often, his punch resistance looks as if it's gone and a bigger puncher would have stopped him.

He should do himself and his health a favour and retire after the next one.

[King]

Hatton showed nothing new. He is wide open to punches and can not take punches to the body at all.

Hatton is basic. Lazcano gave him a good fight and Hatton should retire.

Bow to the King.

[rochsolloch]

i thought hatton fought a great fight considering the pressure and chest infection he was at a hyper tempo from start to finish .
i gave ricky 11 rounds.



outta 10 id say 7.