beating fedor?

[younghypnotiq]

who do you think has the best chance of beating him? i think rampage if he moves up in weight will have a shot at beating him

[younghypnotiq]

cro cop might be able to because fedor cuts easily. but i think ramapage has a better shot.

[oblate]

cro cop might be able to because fedor cuts easily. but i think ramapage has a better shot.
no way. I don't see how you could think that other then just because your a big fan. Fedor has better striking, better subs not that rampage does a lot of subbing, way better ground and pound and has faced better and stronger wrestlers.

[younghypnotiq]

no way. I don't see how you could think that other then just because your a big fan. Fedor has better striking, better subs not that rampage does a lot of subbing, way better ground and pound and has faced better and stronger wrestlers.

rampage has a much better Wrestling game. fedor has better striking and subs. but slams and GnP no way bro

[Beebs]

Couture, he can match him in the clinch, and cage savy plus the fight likely taking place on Couture's home turf so to speak gives him a shot. Would I favor Fedor? Yes. Does Couture have a game chance, yes. I really see this as viable, I've said it time and again.

[dado]

fedor ass rapes any fighter in the history of mma ever,,, so far cro cop has put on the best performance we have seen someone do against fedor,, fujita got a lucky shot in there aswell but it wasnt enough to stop fedor,, i really just wish that all these fighters stop going to ufc and that PRIDE gets its shit together with all the legal troubles becuase the pride ring and pride rules are so much more entertaining and intense than ufc

[younghypnotiq]

if you took al fightes in MMA history and showed them what MMA is today then Bas rutten and shamrock would be able to

[dado]

couture would have a chance maybe in the UFC octagon becuase there he could stall for whole rounds and do absolutely nothing but sit on top of fedor and the ref would let him go on with it ( as they always do in UFC) and the judges would end up giving him the fight,,, but in pride under pride rules where u are given a 10% purse deduction for stalling there is no way couture could take on fedor

[J_Roth]

I would give Frank a better shot then Ken. Either way, Fedor owns both badly. I like Rampage, but he will get hurt badly as well. Rutten prime for prime would make it interesting. Fedor would do what he does best and find a way to win

[ufoalf]

Fedor over Rampage by ass rapage. Rhymes.

Anyways, I think the biggest ace that Couture would have is that he is used to a lot of space. Fedor is more used to easy cornering. Another ace is that, like someone mentioned, Couture could stall.

Gonzaga is still young and i haven't seen enough to make a good judgement on him. He is definitely not a nobody. It WAS a lucky high kick against CC imo. Caught him off guard.

But seriously, I really wanna see Fedor fight. When's CC's next fight?

[achillesthegreat]

Ask the pope if there is anyone more powerful than God and he will say no.

Ask a MMA fan if there is anyone who can beat Fedor and they will say no.

It is just the way the cookie crumbles...

...BUT I think Fedor is facing a legacy defining hurdle that he has to overcome - UFC, Couture, Gonzaga etc

That Matt Lindland geezer makes me wonder what Couture can do to Fedor.

[Amsterdam]

Getting thrown and subbed in two minutes makes you have doubts?

:lol:

Couture and Gonzaga present no problems. Gonzaga probably gets owned even worse than Couture, due to lack of experience against that type of monster, but Randy gets done in the first or second also.

Hell, I can't even see Gonzaga having one advantage here. But I do pick Gonzaga over Couture just as equally, this isn't some slow, unskilled redneck in Tim Sylvia.

[Dostoevsky]

who do you think has the best chance of beating him? i think rampage if he moves up in weight will have a shot at beating him

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Are you sure you have a single fucking clue about MMA? :scaredas:

Rampage got subbed by Sakuraba
Got brutally crushed by Wanderlei twice
Got brutally crushed by Shogun

He got a gift decision against Ninja, Rampage even tried to give Murilo his winners trophy.
Again his win over Matt Lindland was close as hell and some felt it could have gone the other way.

Also when commentating for a fight involving Fedor he said "man, I'm glad i'm not a heavyweight"

I like Rampage, I really do....but a fight against Fedor would end very fast in a large amount of pain for Quinton

[Donut62]

Josh Barnett and the winner of Couture-Gonzaga.

[cross_trainer]

All time? The following guys would have the stylistic advantage:

Mark Coleman in his prime, under early UFC rules
Mark Kerr in his prime
"Professor" William Miller (early 1880's)
Jim Jeffries (early 1900's)


In other words, either a guy with great takedown defence and excellent boxing skills (Miller and Jeffries)--which aren't really around anymore--or a takedown expert with a vicious ground and pound and as few rules as possible. Bluming might pull it off as well, given world-class qualifications in both Kyokushin and Judo.

[younghypnotiq]

Ken Shamrock? I hope that was a joke. He was never that good at all, only against the shitty competition back in the early UFC's. Bas had a great standup game but no ground game early, and learned the ground game late when he was past his physical prime really. Prime for prime, he gives Fedor a good match, but loses. Shamrock gets assraped at any point of his career vs Fedor or any other top LHW or HW.

thats why im saying if he knew about MMA today. he would have worked on his ground game earlier. he would have been unstoppable

[ufoalf]

I dont think anyone from the old days would stand a chance. It just wasn't as fast paced and mixed as today.

Plus, what IS Mark Hunt's prime?

[Dostoevsky]

All time? The following guys would have the stylistic advantage:

Mark Coleman in his prime, under early UFC rules
Mark Hunt in his prime
"Professor" William Miller (early 1880's)
Jim Jeffries (early 1900's)

Mark Hunt?
As in the former K-1 champion?

When was his prime?
And what skills did he have 'back then' to beat Fedor? hes only now just learning about submissions and grappling.

[cross_trainer]

Mark Hunt?
As in the former K-1 champion?

When was his prime?
And what skills did he have 'back then' to beat Fedor? hes only now just learning about submissions and grappling.

Whoops. I meant Mark Kerr.

[achillesthegreat]

Getting thrown and subbed in two minutes makes you have doubts?
It was a wonderful performance. Fedor displayed some mind blowing stuff BUT when Lindland ran at him, lock him at the waist and leg I thought Couture. After that Fedor got in the zone but that one moment makes me think about what Couture could do. Plus Fedor did hold onto the rope and he could lose a point for that in the UFC. Hunt had him on his back and Randleman took him down.

I'm thinking about Couture or Gonzaga (still an unproven quantity) getting to him first, taking him down and taking control. Obviously Fedor has a zillion tricks at how not to let guys maintain control. I think he'd beat them all BUT I am thinking about his stiffest comp in the game at the moment.

What we THINK and what we KNOW are two different things. I want to see Fedor beat the top UFC guys so I can see it with my own eyes.

[Beebs]

What we THINK and what we KNOW are two different things. I want to see Fedor beat the top UFC guys so I can see it with my own eyes.

At this point I just want to see Fedor fight anybody, his legend has, at least on this board, grown outside of the realm of logic, which I didn't think was possible given how proven he is, but fucking christ, even mention the possibility of him losing or even somebody making it a fight and people here freak out.

[achillesthegreat]

At this point I just want to see Fedor fight anybody, his legend has, at least on this board, grown outside of the realm of logic, which I didn't think was possible given how proven he is, but fucking christ, even mention the possibility of him losing or even somebody making it a fight and people here freak out.
Physically I think Fedor is beatable, mentally he always seems to find a way and put it into action en route to getting the W.

[Nuke]

I think when people mention names like Rampage or Liddell or someone of that nature, yea anyone CAN beat anyone else but come on realistically its not gonna happen. I can see people argue Randy and GG and CC, me personally I don't think any of those guys will do it. Barnett I think has the best chance right now, then I think it goes to CC. I'd much rather see it in a Pride ring with Pride rules instead of the cage and American rules.