View Full Version : Malignaggi is terrible
Fallow
05-26-2008, 03:44 AM
I’ve seen about half a dozen of this guy’s fights now and I have to say I think he’s one of the weakest champions in boxing today. The first time I saw him was his utter annihilation at the hands of Cotto. I don’t give Paulie any shit for that, he wasn’t the first person to receive a beat down at Cotto’s hands and he certainly won’t be the last, however, since then I’ve seen him scrape past some really average opponents and looking really bad in doing so. I had him losing to both Ngoudjo and N’Dou (the second time).
Is there anybody out there who actually believes that this guy can accomplish anything of real note in this sport beyond a token alphabet title?
T.C.W
05-26-2008, 03:52 AM
He is world class but nothing special and Hatton will beat him.
daz52
05-26-2008, 04:22 AM
I’ve seen about half a dozen of this guy’s fights now and I have to say I think he’s one of the weakest champions in boxing today. The first time I saw him was his utter annihilation at the hands of Cotto. I don’t give Paulie any shit for that, he wasn’t the first person to receive a beat down at Cotto’s hands and he certainly won’t be the last, however, since then I’ve seen him scrape past some really average opponents and looking really bad in doing so. I had him losing to both Ngoudjo and N’Dou (the first time) and only just beating N’Dou at the weekend in the rematch.
Is there anybody out there who actually believes that this guy can accomplish anything of real note in this sport beyond a token alphabet title?
??? He dominated every friggin round of the first Ndou fight and u have him losing??? you got it mixed up big time he won the first and MAYBE lost the 2nd!!
Chileno606
05-26-2008, 04:26 AM
Malinaggi dominated the first N'Dou fight. GTFO
MrSmall
05-26-2008, 05:33 AM
??? He dominated every friggin round of the first Ndou fight and u have him losing??? you got it mixed up big time he won the first and MAYBE lost the 2nd!!
That's what he said.
Fallow
05-26-2008, 05:51 AM
Yes sorry I meant the other way around. Regardless of the typo, my point still holds, I think he's shit, who disagrees?
Dantes
05-26-2008, 05:57 AM
Yes sorry I meant the other way around. Regardless of the typo, my point still holds, I think he's shit, who disagrees?
He's hardly shit, he's not exactly fighting at the domestic level. He just won't be a world champ when theres guys like Cotto etc.
Lovemore Ndou's an accomplished fighter and considered a gatekeeper for his division- Malignaggi's a step up from that again but I doubt he'll ever be the champ.
Drusome
05-26-2008, 05:59 AM
The first time I saw him was his utter annihilation at the hands of Cotto.
I actually had Malignaggi winning the first half of that fight - he was out boxing Cotto really well before Cotto started to lay the hurt on him.
Fallow
05-26-2008, 06:08 AM
He's hardly shit, he's not exactly fighting at the domestic level. He just won't be a world champ when theres guys like Cotto etc.
Lovemore Ndou's an accomplished fighter and considered a gatekeeper for his division- Malignaggi's a step up from that again but I doubt he'll ever be the champ.
Yeah that's a fair assessment, when I say shit I mean comparatively speaking, like compared to most of the other belt holders in boxing.
Dantes
05-26-2008, 06:29 AM
Yeah that's a fair assessment, when I say shit I mean comparatively speaking, like compared to most of the other belt holders in boxing.
In that case- yeah he's not as good as the other belt holders.
I like watching him fight. I think the Ngoudjo fight was close, but he's an underrated fighter, similar to someone like Josh Clottey or Librado Andrade. A real tough fighter. I think Malignaggi won but it was close. I have no problems with people giving Ngoudjo the decision though. It was one of those fights.
The N'Dou bouts are different. In the first he won easily and in the second he fell apart during the latter half of the fight after. I think it was just a bad night for him. He broke his hand and his hair, as ridiculous as it sounds, put him off a lot. I think you can put that showing down to those problems he had to overcome, as he showed in the first fight he is on another level to N'Dou.
CJLightweight
05-26-2008, 06:51 AM
he's good but not anything special, he's got heart and a good solid chin. I don't know if he can improve though
Betty Swollocks
05-26-2008, 06:56 AM
he made his name in a beatdown LOSS to a almost certainly drained Cotto. What else has he done? Beat N'Dou soundly, scraped past him in the rematch and got a consensus gift against Ngoujou. N'dou is nothing special. Witter beat N'Dou in one of his better wins yet folks including Hatton make out Witter's record is not good enough to face him. So what does that make Malignaggi's record then? :lol: :patsch And how come Paulie is made out to be a real big opponent for Hatton? Based on what exactly. I don't see it.
Contrary to popular belief he has little fanbase, sells fuck all tickets.
This supposed big showdown beween the clown Malignaggi and Hatton is a farce. The Hattons know damn well Paulie is a pillow-fisted paper champ.....the identikit Hatton opponent then.
joe the great
05-26-2008, 06:58 AM
He's hardly shit, he's not exactly fighting at the domestic level. He just won't be a world champ when theres guys like Cotto etc.
Lovemore Ndou's an accomplished fighter and considered a gatekeeper for his division- Malignaggi's a step up from that again but I doubt he'll ever be the champ.
He is a champion right now.
joe the great
05-26-2008, 06:59 AM
I’ve seen about half a dozen of this guy’s fights now and I have to say I think he’s one of the weakest champions in boxing today. The first time I saw him was his utter annihilation at the hands of Cotto. I don’t give Paulie any shit for that, he wasn’t the first person to receive a beat down at Cotto’s hands and he certainly won’t be the last, however, since then I’ve seen him scrape past some really average opponents and looking really bad in doing so. I had him losing to both Ngoudjo and N’Dou (the second time).
Is there anybody out there who actually believes that this guy can accomplish anything of real note in this sport beyond a token alphabet title?
He gave Cotto a good fight. winning five rounds on a scorecard and four on the other two.
Andre
05-26-2008, 07:34 AM
He needs a different trainer IMO, wasn't Paulie with someone from Glesons gym upto te Cotto fight? I thought he was alot better than he is now back then.
Andre
05-26-2008, 07:34 AM
And the consistant hand troubles don't help either.
Ilesey
05-26-2008, 07:38 AM
I wouldn't go as far as to call him shit, Fallow but I think he is beatable! I think Hatton would give him a tuning. He put up a great effort against Cotto but ultimatley I see him losing his title soon. Nice boxer at times but I'm no fan.
CJLightweight
05-26-2008, 07:41 AM
wasn't he hype as the next whittaker?:rofl
Betty Swollocks
05-26-2008, 07:44 AM
there's an old cliche that say something like 'it's dangerous to rate a guy highly on the back of a loss'
especially as Cotto was clearly struggling with 140 those days and was drained tae fuck. He dropped rounds to other guys and as we all know was on queer street on a number of occasions. None of that at 147, and against much better opponents.
Bslice
05-26-2008, 10:07 AM
Yeah, terribly awesome! His last fight was entertaining but, not boxing wise mostly cause Paulie is an idiot
PaddyD1983
05-26-2008, 10:11 AM
I've got him ranked #2 in my 140 rankings, but i think its a matter of time before he gets beat at that weight. Hatton would kill him. Bradley could possibly do it too.
I agree
I've seen the guy 4 times now. The first time against Cotto, I was impressed with his heart and courage against the weight drained Cotto, although I thought the closeness of the fight was overplayed. But overall, good performance. Then he looked real good against the limited N'dou first time around, using his skills and speed. Since then, he looked absolutely horrible against Ngoudjo. He got hurt, outfought and outsmarted by a B- class, and I'm thinking the Cotto fight fucked him up. N'dou II confirmed my thoughts, he fought the wrong type of fight, again got tagged too much, hurt and outsmarted. I had him winning a far closer decision than he ought to have against a B- plodder
Overall, it doesn't augur well for a fight with Hatton, because he does not fight to his own strengths. He'll get caught up in Hatton's fight, and brutalised entirely
Slothrop
05-26-2008, 10:17 AM
I’ve seen about half a dozen of this guy’s fights now and I have to say I think he’s one of the weakest champions in boxing today. The first time I saw him was his utter annihilation at the hands of Cotto. I don’t give Paulie any shit for that, he wasn’t the first person to receive a beat down at Cotto’s hands and he certainly won’t be the last, however, since then I’ve seen him scrape past some really average opponents and looking really bad in doing so. I had him losing to both Ngoudjo and N’Dou (the second time).
Is there anybody out there who actually believes that this guy can accomplish anything of real note in this sport beyond a token alphabet title?
Cotto didn't exactly pitch a shutout. Malignaggi's a fucking queer, but he's got skills.
joito3
05-26-2008, 10:20 AM
I actually had Malignaggi winning the first half of that fight - he was out boxing Cotto really well before Cotto started to lay the hurt on him.
Winning the 1st half ? When he was knocked down and bloodied up in the 1st half and beat down lol I thought he did better in the middle rounds when cotto was taking a breather ....then cotto came on late again and put some serious hurt on him
BigBoss
05-26-2008, 10:28 AM
Winning the 1st half ? When he was knocked down and bloodied up in the 1st half and beat down lol I thought he did better in the middle rounds when cotto was taking a breather ....then cotto came on late again and put some serious hurt on him
I agree with this. If anyone really wants to see what the Cotto fight took out of him, besides the facial fractures and cuts and body beating he took, only has to watch that documentary he made where when he is in the locker room afterwards and there was no doctor there to see him. He screamed for a doctor and complained of severe headaches then collapsed to the floor. That's when they rushed the cameras out of the room.
Slothrop
05-26-2008, 10:32 AM
I agree with this. If anyone really wants to see what the Cotto fight took out of him, besides the facial fractures and cuts and body beating he took, only has to watch that documentary he made where when he is in the locker room afterwards and there was no doctor there to see him. He screamed for a doctor and complained of severe headaches then collapsed to the floor. That's when they rushed the cameras out of the room.
Cotto's a beast.
fitzgeraldz
05-26-2008, 10:47 AM
Malignaggi is a good boxer w/ a brittle right hand. He's doing better than I thought he would do ... he has a good chin, decent speed, and good movement and athleticism.
He already has a 2 defenses of his title ... he's 3-1 in championship fights ...
I think he has the chance to outbox all the other champions in the division - but that remains to be seen.
I think that Hatton is very strong and very fast and would give Malignaggi trouble, but if Malignaggi's chin holds up and he can use the ring to his advantage, lead and counter then he'll be alright.
Manjanek
05-26-2008, 12:03 PM
I’ve seen about half a dozen of this guy’s fights now and I have to say I think he’s one of the weakest champions in boxing today. The first time I saw him was his utter annihilation at the hands of Cotto. I don’t give Paulie any shit for that, he wasn’t the first person to receive a beat down at Cotto’s hands and he certainly won’t be the last, however, since then I’ve seen him scrape past some really average opponents and looking really bad in doing so. I had him losing to both Ngoudjo and N’Dou (the second time).
Is there anybody out there who actually believes that this guy can accomplish anything of real note in this sport beyond a token alphabet title?
Torres, Koetlnik, Urango, Holt, Rees, Viv. Harris, These are top ten'ers that I think Malignaggi disposes of with relative ease when his game is on point. There are some sharks out there that I think make interesting matchups. Witter being a big one. Another being Timothy Bradley- if it was a fluke... no but if he actually dismantled witter then his a danger to anyone in the 140s! So as far as the titleholders are concerned, if the right fights are made, Paulie could unify with relative ease provided he comes with the proper mentality. He has to get past Hatton first though... No easy task for anyone but i think he has the tools to do it
Fallow
05-26-2008, 02:32 PM
So can we all agree that if Hatton were to lose to this chump that it would be a complete total and utter disgrace for Hatton and all arguments claiming him to be even remotely great would be buried 6ft under for eternity?
PH|LLA
05-26-2008, 02:44 PM
Malignaggi and N'Dou are pretty much on the same level. The first fight Malignaggi had his hometown ref and N'Dou was basically not allowed to do anything.
When Malignaggi didn't have that advantage, we saw the outcome.
Morrissey
05-26-2008, 02:48 PM
I’ve seen about half a dozen of this guy’s fights now and I have to say I think he’s one of the weakest champions in boxing today. The first time I saw him was his utter annihilation at the hands of Cotto. I don’t give Paulie any shit for that, he wasn’t the first person to receive a beat down at Cotto’s hands and he certainly won’t be the last, however, since then I’ve seen him scrape past some really average opponents and looking really bad in doing so. I had him losing to both Ngoudjo and N’Dou (the second time).
Is there anybody out there who actually believes that this guy can accomplish anything of real note in this sport beyond a token alphabet title?
Not me.
He is pure gimmick. Like one of those WWE wrestlers.
I am actually amazed to know he is a holding a belt.
Anybody who was toyed around by Cotto for every single of every round of the whole fight does not deserve to be called talented nor a champ by any means.
Betty Swollocks
05-26-2008, 02:50 PM
we're pretty much all agreed that Paulie is dogshit, that's why Hatton is licking his lips as it's yet another paper titlist to take on and then we'll be hearing the old 'Wicky 'Atton has won 7 world titles..blah blah blah and the Mexicans looove me style and it's a twibute to them etc etc '
Drederick Tatum
05-26-2008, 02:51 PM
He's definately not my taste AT ALL, the muthafucka can't bruise an apple.
Ubersteve
05-26-2008, 02:51 PM
It would be great if he was a bit better at boxing. Someone people would pay in the hope they'd lose everytime. Mayweather's ability + Paulie's personality = money.
Dark Sider
05-26-2008, 03:09 PM
I agree with this. If anyone really wants to see what the Cotto fight took out of him, besides the facial fractures and cuts and body beating he took, only has to watch that documentary he made where when he is in the locker room afterwards and there was no doctor there to see him. He screamed for a doctor and complained of severe headaches then collapsed to the floor. That's when they rushed the cameras out of the room.
Is this what you're talkig about? [Only registered and activated users can see links]
PaddyD1983
05-29-2008, 04:32 AM
So can we all agree that if Hatton were to lose to this chump that it would be a complete total and utter disgrace for Hatton and all arguments claiming him to be even remotely great would be buried 6ft under for eternity?
Hatton would not lose to 'this chump'
ron u.k.
05-29-2008, 05:12 AM
well i used to think shit of malignaggi,thought he was a bit of a flash joke,but he did gain my respect against cotto.to me he showed in that fight he is a genuinely tough kid,with a genuine fighting heart,plus he did make it hard for cotto in there and he had his moments,although eventually he took a beating.to me he's hamed without the power,but i think he has enough about him to pinch a decision win against a fading hatton.for one thing if he can take cotto's punches for twelve rounds he can take hatton's.
i dont think it should come as a suprise that cotto took something out of him.... if you ask me malignaggi doesnt seem as sharp as before but maybe im looking too much into it
Bluenose
05-29-2008, 05:54 PM
He is world class but nothing special and Hatton will beat him.
A very big contradiction if I say so myself.
bigtime9
05-29-2008, 06:00 PM
Originally Posted by Fallow
I’ve seen about half a dozen of this guy’s fights now and I have to say I think he’s one of the weakest champions in boxing today. The first time I saw him was his utter annihilation at the hands of Cotto. I don’t give Paulie any shit for that, he wasn’t the first person to receive a beat down at Cotto’s hands and he certainly won’t be the last, however, since then I’ve seen him scrape past some really average opponents and looking really bad in doing so. I had him losing to both Ngoudjo and N’Dou (the second time).
Is there anybody out there who actually believes that this guy can accomplish anything of real note in this sport beyond a token alphabet title?
Ia gree paulie is one of the worst fighters I have ever seen. he doesn't have a right hand and hatton will exploit this.
JonOli
05-29-2008, 06:11 PM
So can we all agree that if Hatton were to lose to this chump that it would be a complete total and utter disgrace for Hatton and all arguments claiming him to be even remotely great would be buried 6ft under for eternity?
And there we have the very reason behind you starting the thread. :yep
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