Question for the Hatton haters

[pne buz]

Say hes got 3 fights left and Malignaggi is probably the next one what would he have to do to gain your respect?If he beat 3 belt holders at 140 and then retired with 1 loss to PBF would he rank as a truly world class operator?If he did Pacman and put up a good show against PBF the same.Or had a ding dong with Cotto.Please tell me what he has to do.I suspect that all you Haters have got a bone in your mouth and wont let go.You will never admit your wrong and always find fault no matter what.So come on prove me wrong and give me your formula for Hatton to gain your respect before he retires.

[achillesthegreat]

If he beats Malignaggi and then Witter (should he regain his title) then I think he could retire happy as a great fighter.

Tszyu-Castillo-Mayweather - he's fought the great fighters.

Urango-Maussa-Collazo-Malignaggi - he's fought the champions.

Tackie-Lazcano-Magee - he's fought the contenders.

He's had a solid career.

[dan-b]

Oh just what we need, another Hatton thread. This time with an aggressive, provoking title. Should lead to some more sensible, structured debabte.:lol:

To be honest I see no point in a return to 147 because, by his own admission, he is not effective there. Cotto would brutalise him & all we'd get is the "not his weight" excuse. Malignaggi, Witter if he regains his belt & Pacman would round off a fairly solid career.

I just wish Hatton had taken the Mayweather fight at 140 then after losing stayed there & cleaned up that way.

[pne buz]

Oh just what we need, another Hatton thread. This time with an aggressive, provoking title. Should lead to some more sensible, structured debabte.:lol:

To be honest I see no point in a return to 147 because, by his own admission, he is not effective there. Cotto would brutalise him & all we'd get is the "not his weight" excuse. Malignaggi, Witter if he regains his belt & Pacman would round off a fairly solid career.

I just wish Hatton had taken the Mayweather fight at 140 then after losing stayed there & cleaned up that way.

Its not meant to be provoking in anyway.its a serious question which you and i hope everyone else answers sensibly

[dan-b]

Its not meant to be provoking in anyway.its a serious question which you and i hope everyone else answers sensibly

Maybe not but it is. I think we're all sick of the bitching on here it's beyind tiresome now. Anyway, what do you think of my assessment? Fair or not?

[pne buz]

Maybe not but it is. I think we're all sick of the bitching on here it's beyind tiresome now. Anyway, what do you think of my assessment? Fair or not?Thats exactly why ive done the thread.Lets get it down in writing now what would be acceptable and sit back and wait and see instead of constant bickering.If he gets blown away in his next couple of fights then i and all his fans will have to re assess our thoughts on his levels of achievment.But i think the stick he gets currently is harsh to say the least.
I think your bang on.I personally think Malignaggi coupled with Witter or Torres and Pacman would set the seal on a great career.We all know Cotto and PBF are to good for him at 147 along with 1 or 2 more but there is no shame in that is there?

[dan-b]

Thats exactly why ive done the thread.Lets get it down in writing now what would be acceptable and sit back and wait and see instead of constant bickering.If he gets blown away in his next couple of fights then i and all his fans will have to re assess our thoughts on his levels of achievment.But i think the stick he gets currently is harsh to say the least.
I think your bang on.I personally think Malignaggi coupled with Witter or Torres and Pacman would set the seal on a great career.We all know Cotto and PBF are to good for him at 147 along with 1 or 2 more but there is no shame in that is there?

No, no shame but then if even a fan such as yourself can see he is not good enough to compete with those guys can you understand why we think a rematch with Floyd will only be a money fight?

[rooq]

i'm not a hater but can i still play?


hatton has a three fight deal with hbo, and i think thats realistically all he has left, so i can't see forsee a fight with junior witter in there. we'll have malignaggi, followed by pacman followed by a PBF rematch.

i think he'll have had a solid career by the time he retires, and i can see him being inducted into the HOF five years later (due to his popularity and not necessarily his achievements). he'll be considered a modern great in terms of british boxing, but not a world great.

[pne buz]

No, no shame but then if even a fan such as yourself can see he is not good enough to compete with those guys can you understand why we think a rematch with Floyd will only be a money fight?

Thats what every boxer is in the sport for to make money is it not.Hatton would be a massive underdog and it would be a hell of a pay day but it doesnt mean Hatton wont be giving it his all.Most match ups are one sided but we still watch and enjoy them thats boxing.And no doubt everybody on this board would still watch it with interest.We would all like to see the dream match ups at every weight but there you go.Hatton with exciting style,his fan base and popularity is in a position to secure fights with such opponents and good luck to him.I can think of a hell of a lot more less worthy opponents PBF could get in with!

[dan-b]

Thats what every boxer is in the sport for to make money is it not.Hatton would be a massive underdog and it would be a hell of a pay day but it doesnt mean Hatton wont be giving it his all.Most match ups are one sided but we still watch and enjoy them thats boxing.And no doubt everybody on this board would still watch it with interest.We would all like to see the dream match ups at every weight but there you go.Hatton with exciting style,his fan base and popularity is in a position to secure fights with such opponents and good luck to him.I can think of a hell of a lot more less worthy opponents PBF could get in with!

**SIGH** But then this is the issue isn't it? I thought you said what fights give him a great legacy? Getting beaten up by PBF in a division which he says he's not effective in again does nothing for his legacy. Thats the problem with trying to debate this with you Hatton fans, you use two arguments. Firstly the one where you ask us which fights he has to take to be considered great then if that goes against you, you fall back on the old "who wouldn't want to make money" argument. Which is it? It's not fair for you to keep using two arguments.

[pne buz]

**SIGH** But then this is the issue isn't it? I thought you said what fights give him a great legacy? Getting beaten up by PBF in a division which he says he's not effective in again does nothing for his legacy. Thats the problem with trying to debate this with you Hatton fans, you use two arguments. Firstly the one where you ask us which fights he has to take to be considered great then if that goes against you, you fall back on the old "who wouldn't want to make money" argument. Which is it? It's not fair for you to keep using two arguments. It was only a response as you did bring the 2nd argument up.I agree with you in as far as it does less for his legacy im just saying he would be stupid not to take the fight and the trappings that come with it and so would anybody else be.And if he did do the unthinkable and actually win then it does more.But i think if he did what you said that should be the way forward and that would be enough for me to put him in the British legends catergory.The question is would it be enough for Betty Swollocks and company?I doubt it somehow!

[Fat Joe]

You will never admit your wrong

So if someone disagrees with you they are always wrong?

[TFFP]

I'm not really a hater per say, I just didn't like his ducking tactics and excuses over the years

He still has the chance to go down as a great at 140, if he comes back from defeat and unifies this division. I'm thinking if he fights Malignaggi, Torres and then perhaps Bradley. No world beaters, but he'd have a really solid set of wins at 140, including Tszyu, Urango, Castillo (albeit shot) etc

I'm not worried about him fighting Pacquiao, as I don't see a real contest there. It would be a nice farewell fight, but thats about all I can say for it. Mayweather/Cotto should be non-issues, he just gets beaten up

[kurt2006]

Fck malignaggi, witter and bradley, they mean nothing.

I rather see him fight the likes of Cotto. No way he ever beats PBF as that guy is something special. However he beat Cotto and he gets my respect, if he has his arse handed to him like PBF did then he is exposed.

[GazOC]

"Exposed", the most over used word on EBS, along with "shot".

Hattons reputation/ legacy as a boxer does not rest on whether he takes, or how well he does in, a Cotto fight.

[TFFP]

He ain't gonna fuckin beat Mayweather or Cotto, it's pointless except for money

He's a 140lb fighter, and at the moment his resume is not very deep at the weight. Retiring as twice undisputed champ, undefeated at the weight with a solid set of wins would put him in contention as a great. They are not meaningless fights at all

If he retires with 2 more whoopings off Mayweather and Cotto and little else, he'll go down as a decent 140lb fighter that tried to be a welter and got his ass whooped by the best.

[dan-b]

"Exposed", the most over used word on EBS, along with "shot".

Hattons reputation/ legacy as a boxer does not rest on whether he takes, or how well he does in, a Cotto fight.

I agree exposed is overused. Hatton would get brutalised by Cotto & as far as I'm aware Hatton has not mentioned fighting him so I don't think it's going to be an issue. He'll only go back to 147 for PBF I think.

[Claypole]

"Exposed", the most over used word on EBS, along with "shot".
Oh, and "Brutally KTFO"

[trotter]

Well, for a sense of perspective, look at the records of past British Champions, say McGuigan for one

Hatton is well into British great territory already with the number of belts he's collected etc

He's caught between the devil and the deep blue sea now though. There's not much at 140 to build on his reputation, but he can't operate at 147

I think Paulie, Torres, Pacman is the best he can do and that would be bloody impressive if he won them all, in the fullness of time

I can see why he wants Floyd though but I see no way he can win, bar the fight being at 140 and in the UK, and even then it's a remote possibility

[pne buz]

So if someone disagrees with you they are always wrong?I think i already alluded to the fact that if he got beat then us Hatton fans would have to re evaluate how good he really is.Try reading all the posts instead of picking bits out:good

[J-Dog]

Im so far from Hatton hating its nearly wrong but i have to play cause nobody else talking about anything else on Brit... sorry and all that..

Trotter bang on the money there, he stuck now in a division where big names are gonna be elusive.....

If Pac comes up its a super-fight, and a good one at that, unifying in the mean time aint no low par achievement either....

He gotta go down as an all time Brit great if it all comes good, and who wouldnt want another shot at the best fighter in the world......

[dan-b]

Im so far from Hatton hating its nearly wrong but i have to play cause nobody else talking about anything else on Brit... sorry and all that..

Trotter bang on the money there, he stuck now in a division where big names are gonna be elusive.....

If Pac comes up its a super-fight, and a good one at that, unifying in the mean time aint no low par achievement either....

He gotta go down as an all time Brit great if it all comes good, and who wouldnt want another shot at the best fighter in the world......

The thing is I don't understand why he gave up his 140 belts in the first place. The fight with Collazo has to be the single most stupid career move for any fighter in a while. Right now he should still have his WBA/IBF belts rather than this IBO pap & the fact he keeps calling himself a 6 times champion or whatever it is.

[fidds]

Fck malignaggi, witter and bradley, they mean nothing.

I rather see him fight the likes of Cotto. No way he ever beats PBF as that guy is something special. However he beat Cotto and he gets my respect, if he has his arse handed to him like PBF did then he is exposed.

I suppose hearns was exposed when he ktfo by hagler ?

OR


Duran exposed when he was near decapitated by hearns ??

LOL it don't work like that when the best fight the best, losing a fight dosen't mean your exposed :deal

[J-Dog]

The thing is I don't understand why he gave up his 140 belts in the first place. The fight with Collazo has to be the single most stupid career move for any fighter in a while. Right now he should still have his WBA/IBF belts rather than this IBO pap & the fact he keeps calling himself a 6 times champion or whatever it is.

Agreed, well Graham was against Collazo from the get-go, it seems he over-ruling Graham along his merry way a lot, in the ring even on Sat he wasnt doin what was asked of him.....not good me thinks

That 6 time crock is crazy and laughable..........:lol:

[dan-b]

I suppose hearns was exposed when he ktfo by hagler ?

OR


Duran exposed when he was near decapitated by hearns ??

LOL it don't work like that when the best fight the best, losing a fight dosen't mean your exposed :deal

Are you comparing Hatton to Hearns or Duran?:lol:

[GazOC]

Are you comparing Hatton to Hearns or Duran?:lol:

You know very well he's not.....:roll:;)

[dan-b]

You know very well he's not.....:roll:;)

So whats his point then?

[trotter]

The thing is I don't understand why he gave up his 140 belts in the first place. The fight with Collazo has to be the single most stupid career move for any fighter in a while. Right now he should still have his WBA/IBF belts rather than this IBO pap & the fact he keeps calling himself a 6 times champion or whatever it is.

2 reasons; firstly, Lazcano was meant to be the opponent at 140 but broke his finger and Collazo was the only make-able fight at seven weeks notice that HBO would accept

Second it gave Hatton the chance to win a strap at 147

I don't blame him for taking the fight to be honest

[GazOC]

So whats his point then?

That fighters can lose without being "exposed". Thats boxing unless every champ bar Marciano, Lopez and Calzaghe has been "exposed".

[dan-b]

2 reasons; firstly, Lazcano was meant to be the opponent at 140 but broke his finger and Collazo was the only make-able fight at seven weeks notice that HBO would accept

Second it gave Hatton the chance to win a strap at 147

I don't blame him for taking the fight to be honest

Yup a strap he never defended in a division he wasn't effective in. His hard earned, more meaningful 140 straps went to the knackers. It was a poor move if you ask me.

That fighters can lose without being "exposed". Thats boxing unless every champ bar Marciano, Lopez and Calzaghe has been "exposed".

Maybe he should have explained it that way then. Save any possible confusion.

[GazOC]

Maybe he should have explained it that way then. Save any possible confusion.

He wasn't to know you were in an awkward mood....

[dan-b]

He wasn't to know you were in an awkward mood....

It's not being awkward it's being accurate. Like when we have to correct people who think Hatton is the second coming of Roberto Duran.:rofl

[GazOC]

It's not being awkward it's being accurate. Like when we have to correct people who think Hatton is the second coming of Roberto Duran.:rofl

Its being awkward Dan and you know it, but yeah I know what you mean, we had a similar problem with Witter getting compared to Mayweather. Its all blown over now though.

[dan-b]

Its being awkward Dan and you know it, but yeah I know what you mean, we had a similar problem with Witter getting compared to Mayweather. Its all blown over now though.

Who the fuck was doing that?:lol:

[GazOC]

Who the fuck was doing that?:lol:

I know looking back its hard to believe but plenty on here had drawn up a fucked up formline that showed that because Hatton had lost to Mayweather and Witters style was like Mayweathers, that Hatton would get KO'd against Witter....:nut

[dan-b]

I know looking back its hard to believe but plenty on here had drawn up a fucked up formline that showed that because Hatton had lost to Mayweather and Witter style was like Mayweathers, that Hatton would get KO'd against Witter....:nut

Well he may well have done but it wouldn't have been because his style was similair to PBF's. We'll never know now though. I hope we never have another situation where the top two men in Britain in the same division don't fight each other for 7 years. Surely we all agree thats not a good thing.

[GazOC]

Well he may well have done but it wouldn't have been because his style was similair to PBF's. We'll never know now though. I hope we never have another situation where the top two men in Britain in the same division don't fight each other for 7 years. Surely we all agree thats not a good thing.

It really wasn't a big deal for me. I'd have liked to see the fight when Hatton was defending the WBU strap but it didn't happen and Hattons career moved on after Zoo.

[dan-b]

It really wasn't a big deal for me. I'd have liked to see the fight when Hatton was defending the WBU strap but it didn't happen and Hattons career moved on after Zoo.

I'm speaking generally. Surely you agree thats not a healthy scenario for the sport.

[GazOC]

Sure its not, you want the top men to fight each other. I wanted a Hatton-Witter fight back in the WBU and I think there was more interest among the general public for it back then than there was after the Mayweather fight. But after Zoo Hattons record and career has been good enough to not need Junior Witters name on it.

[dan-b]

Sure its not, you want the top men to fight each other. I wanted a Hatton-Witter fight back in the WBU and I think there was more interest among the general public for it back then than there was after the Mayweather fight. But after Zoo Hattons record and career has been good enough to not need Junior Witters name on it.

But this is my mates main gripe with boxing & why he can't get into it despite my efforts. He says at least with football, despite all the pontificating, you get to see everone face each other every year whereas in boxing you get fighters talking about being the best for years but never fighting each other. De La Hoya avoiding Wright being another good example.

[GazOC]

Boxing these days is too complicated to get into casually. Theres too many titles, too many ways to get to a world title. When I was a kid a British fighter won Brit title, maybe the Commonwealth, then the Euro, then a top yank before getting his title shot. Hatton-Witter would have had to happen at Euro level for one of the two to progress his career.

[dan-b]

Boxing these days is too complicated to get into casually. Theres too many titles, too many ways to get to a world title. When I was a kid a British fighter won Brit title, maybe the Commonwealth, then the Euro, then a top yank before getting his title shot. Hatton-Witter would have had to happen at Euro level for one of the two to progress his career.

That said it didn't stop Watson, Eubank & Benn squaring off on more than one occassion. No I think it's more to do with a certain mans monopoly over the sport in this country that stops these fights coming together. Plus people reneging on contractual obligations never helps.

[Fat Joe]

If he beats Malignaggi I would like to then see him fight Bradley or Torres. Then if he comes through that I would like to see him fight Pacquiao.
I've said before that I thought it would be a mismatch but listening to the Hatton fight on the radio the other night it sounded like Lazcano was hurting Hatton. So if Pacman was successful @ 135 maybe it wouldn't be a one sided fight against Hatton.

[pne buz]

That said it didn't stop Watson, Eubank & Benn squaring off on more than one occassion. No I think it's more to do with a certain mans monopoly over the sport in this country that stops these fights coming together. Plus people reneging on contractual obligations never helps.

It was kept in house though whilst choosing to freeze out Herol Graham!

[dan-b]

If he beats Malignaggi I would like to then see him fight Bradley or Torres. Then if he comes through that I would like to see him fight Pacquiao.
I've said before that I thought it would be a mismatch but listening to the Hatton fight on the radio the other night it sounded like Lazcano was hurting Hatton. So if Pacman was successful @ 135 maybe it wouldn't be a one sided fight against Hatton.

How much credence can we actually pay this supposed 3 fight plan? I seem to remember Ray saying there would be 5 more fights after the PBF fight.

[GazOC]

That said it didn't stop Watson, Eubank & Benn squaring off on more than one occassion. No I think it's more to do with a certain mans monopoly over the sport in this country that stops these fights coming together. Plus people reneging on contractual obligations never helps.
******s only doing what Micky Duff, Jarvis Astaire etc were doing before him, its just that he's got more wriggle room with all these titles knocking about.

[dan-b]

It was kept in house though whilst choosing to freeze out Herol Graham!

Yup but that scenario cannot be applied to the Hatton Witter one.

[dan-b]

******s only doing what Micky Duff, Jarvis Astaire etc were doing before him, its just that he's got more wriggle room with all these titles knocking about.

Did they ever let a stipulation be put into a contract for their charge to fight the man they were trying to freeze out though?

[onourway]

That said it didn't stop Watson, Eubank & Benn squaring off on more than one occassion. No I think it's more to do with a certain mans monopoly over the sport in this country that stops these fights coming together. Plus people reneging on contractual obligations never helps.

Yes, but at the same time Eubank/Benn never fought Toney, McCallum, Hopkins or Jones.....

I'd rather see Hatton fighting Tszyu/Mayweather/Castillo than be involved in domestic showdowns a la Eubank and co.

[pne buz]

Yup but that scenario cannot be applied to the Hatton Witter one.

The glaring difference being that Hatton has gone out there and fought better fighters than Witter in the main whilst Benn,Eubank and Watson were fighting each other whilst avoiding a lot of the tops fights out there.****** was happy to tell you they were the best but we know different dont we.

[GazOC]

'Did they ever let a stipulation be put into a contract for their charge to fight the man they were trying to freeze out though?

I've no idea, I do know they ran a tighter monopoly on British boxing than ****** does.......I take it Hatton-Witter is still the subtext in that post?

[dan-b]

Yes, but at the same time Eubank/Benn never fought Toney, McCallum, Hopkins or Jones.....

I'd rather see Hatton fighting Tszyu/Mayweather/Castillo than be involved in domestic showdowns a la Eubank and co.

Hatton obviously thought it was a fight worth taking at one point though given he had it written into his contract.

[dan-b]

'

I've no idea, I do know they ran a tighter monopoly on British boxing than ****** does.......I take it Hatton-Witter is still the subtext in that post?

Well yes. As all huge Hatton fans should know, he had the Witter fight written into his contract.

[pne buz]

Whilst we are on about that era could anyone tell me the name of the Italian boxer who beat Herol Graham on a ridiculous points decision.I was talking about it the other day and couldnt remember his name!Talked about the Julian Jackson fight and Mcallum one.Unlucky and underated Graham methinks!

[GazOC]

Well yes. As all huge Hatton fans should know, he had the Witter fight written into his contract.

I guess I'm not a huge Hatton fan then...

[dan-b]

Whilst we are on about that era could anyone tell me the name of the Italian boxer who beat Herol Graham on a ridiculous points decision.I was talking about it the other day and couldnt remember his name!Talked about the Julian Jackson fight and Mcallum one.Unlucky and underated Graham methinks!

Kalambay. Graham was cursed.

I guess I'm not a huge Hatton fan then...

Obviously not.:lol:

I'll try & find a link.;)

[dan-b]

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[Cobbler]

[Only registered and activated users can see links]
So Hatton wanted to fight Witter but Witter killed the fight by being shit?

You could have brought it up in one of the million 'Hatton's ducked Witter since before the actual dawn of time' threads....

[dan-b]

So Hatton wanted to fight Witter but Witter killed the fight by being shit?

You could have brought it up in one of the million 'Hatton's ducked Witter since before the actual dawn of time' threads....

Errr...shut up you condescending prick. Gaz said he'd never heard of that particular scenario before so I was merely providing citation as opposed to the usual hearsay & conjecture that is used on here. Is that okay?

[Cobbler]

Errr...shut up you condescending prick. Gaz said he'd never heard of that particular scenario before so I was merely providing citation as opposed to the usual hearsay & conjecture that is used on here. Is that okay?

Yes and I commented on the implications of the citation.

Jesus, you're in a cunty mood today. Bit of a shame because you've actually made some reasonable and thought provoking posts over the last couple of days like you used to.

[onourway]

Witter and Hatton were set to fight, but Witter ruined it by being shit.

On top of this, Hatton's lawyer offered Witter £100,000 for a fight (career high payday) and Witter turned it down.

So the ducking thing is a load of shit really.....

[trotter]

Errr...shut up you condescending prick. Gaz said he'd never heard of that particular scenario before so I was merely providing citation as opposed to the usual hearsay & conjecture that is used on here. Is that okay?

End of the day though does it not blow apart the criticism that Hatton 'ducked' Witter?

In your opinion?

[dan-b]

End of the day though does it not blow apart the criticism that Hatton 'ducked' Witter?

In your opinion?

Not at all, why would it?

[onourway]

Not at all, why would it?

Because promoters/TV make fights, not fighters. And TV/promoters never wanted it.

[dan-b]

Yes and I commented on the implications of the citation.

Jesus, you're in a cunty mood today. Bit of a shame because you've actually made some reasonable and thought provoking posts over the last couple of days like you used to.

Now you know how I feel everytime you lot get going about Hatton. You expect concessions from our side but make none yourselves. Infact, its a pointless debate. Don't know why I even got back into it.

[Max Molyneux]

Witter and Hatton were set to fight, but Witter ruined it by being shit.

On top of this, Hatton's lawyer offered Witter £100,000 for a fight (career high payday) and Witter turned it down.

So the ducking thing is a load of shit really.....

Was this the same lawyer who talked to Hennessey on the phone drunk at 6am In Vegas saying thats all he's worth?:lol:

[pne buz]

Now you know how I feel everytime you lot get going about Hatton. You expect concessions from our side but make none yourselves. Infact, its a pointless debate. Don't know why I even got back into it.

It did start as a good debate but its going the way of all the others now!:fire

[onourway]

Was this the same lawyer who talked to Hennessey on the phone drunk at 6am In Vegas saying thats all he's worth?:lol:

Is that the same story that was made up by a boxrec poster and never appeared in the mainstream media? :D

[trotter]

Not at all, why would it?

Well, why did Hatton let ****** put it in a contract if he was fearful of facing Junior?

[dan-b]

It did start as a good debate but its going the way of all the others now!:fire

Yup because the Hatton fanboys are delluded. I've been perfectly reasonable about Hatton, giving him credit for his win Saturday etc but still they persist with this idea that Hatton is bigger than the Witter fight. Personally I'm bored of it & won't be getting involved in it any fucking more. I see none of you fanboys have contributed to the Mijares Munoz thread. Take it none of you bothered with that little, meaningless fight then?

[dan-b]

Well, why did Hatton let ****** put it in a contract if he was fearful of facing Junior?

Mmmm.....why did he not take the fight? Works both ways, Junior wasn't anymore "exciting" when Hatton signed the contract. Anyway, read the above I'm out. Enjoy your dick licking session, I won't interupt any further.:lol:

[Max Molyneux]

Is that the same story that was made up by a boxrec poster and never appeared in the mainstream media? :D
Doesn't mean It's not true If It's not In the mainstream.

Witter denied turning that down too. He even offered to fight Ricky for free.

Hennessey did speak to his lawyer too.

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type live fight in them stars.

[trotter]

Mmmm.....why did he not take the fight? Works both ways, Junior wasn't anymore "exciting" when Hatton signed the contract. Anyway, read the above I'm out. Enjoy your dick licking session, I won't interupt any further.:lol:

Shut the door on your way out knob end

[dan-b]

Shut the door on your way out knob end

This place slays me. What do you want me to say? You lot are never happy unless people are agreeing with your opinions of Hatton.:lol:

[trotter]

This place slays me. What do you want me to say? You lot are never happy unless people are agreeing with your opinions of Hatton.:lol:

Thought you'd gone?


...to be fair I was just being a dick

Like you'd been

It's not normally my style

[dan-b]

Thought you'd gone?


...to be fair I was just being a dick

Like you'd been

It's not normally my style

It really doesn't matter, this argument is about as resolvable as the conflict in the middle east & far more tedious. Did you watch the Mijares Munoz fight?

[pne buz]

It really doesn't matter, this argument is about as resolvable as the conflict in the middle east & far more tedious. Did you watch the Mijares Munoz fight?

:lol: Your right about the middle east.I did not watch that fight and to be honest i dont tend to watch a lot of boxing at the really low weights.Is it worth a gander?

[dan-b]

:lol: Your right about the middle east.I did not watch that fight and to be honest i dont tend to watch a lot of boxing at the really low weights.Is it worth a gander?

Yes it is. The first unification match at super fly for 10 years. The desire from both fighters was highly admirable when you compare that to the recent heavyweight unification match. I bet they were on a fraction of the wages as well.

[onourway]

Doesn't mean It's not true If It's not In the mainstream.

Witter denied turning that down too. He even offered to fight Ricky for free.

Hennessey did speak to his lawyer too.

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type live fight in them stars.

I'm unlikely to believe some random on boxrec.

I heard an ex fighter on about the 'offering to fight for free' gimmick, he said he used to do it all the time, but he never actually meant it. (Can't remember who it was though)

[dan-b]

I'm unlikely to believe some random on boxrec.

I heard an ex fighter on about the 'offering to fight for free' gimmick, he said he used to do it all the time, but he never actually meant it. (Can't remember who it was though)

Nothing like a bit of solid citation ay onourway?:lol:

[trotter]

It really doesn't matter, this argument is about as resolvable as the conflict in the middle east & far more tedious. Did you watch the Mijares Munoz fight?

No I spotted the heads up too late and not sure if I get that channel

I would have watched though, it's not a division I know anything about to be honest, would have been nice to widen my knowledge

[onourway]

:D

Well to be honest, the boxer wasn't referring to Witter when he said it, but I can't remember who it was.

[dan-b]

No I spotted the heads up too late and not sure if I get that channel

I would have watched though, it's not a division I know anything about to be honest, would have been nice to widen my knowledge

You should get it if you have Sky. They might be matching Mijares up with Montiel if he gets through his fight this saturday so it's definitely worth watching.:good

[GazOC]

TBH fighting for free offers or winner takes all fights NEVER come off. They are publicity stunts, everyone knew that but it didn't stop people on here pretending they thought it was a genuine just to score some points against Hatton.

[dan-b]

TBH fighting for free offers or winner takes all fights NEVER come off. They are publicity stunts, everyone knew that but it didn't stop people on here pretending they thought it was a genuine just to score some points against Hatton.

Ah the poor Hatton fans are so hard done by. They never dish out unwarranted stick to Witter do they?:lol:

[GazOC]

Ah the poor Hatton fans are so hard done by. They never dish out unwarranted stick to Witter do they?:lol:

Why quote my post when you didn't bother addressing any of the points in it?

[dan-b]

Why quote my post when you didn't bother addressing any of the points in it?

What points? Anyway I'm off out for the evening, don't miss me too much, chat soon sweetheart.:smooch

[GazOC]

What points? Anyway I'm off out for the evening, don't miss me too much, chat soon sweetheart.:smooch

That Witters "I'll fight for training expenses" offer was complete bullshit....

[dan-b]

That Witters "I'll fight for training expenses" offer was complete bullshit....

Bit like Hatton's double standards when it came to his reasons for not facing Witter ay? Same shit different asshole.:lol:

[GazOC]

The difference always was the Hatton had options...Witter just had Hatton.

Back in for half ten? Lightweight!!!

[Max Molyneux]

I'm unlikely to believe some random on boxrec.

Yet you'd believe a carpet salesmen known at Ray.

[Scratch]

That Witters "I'll fight for training expenses" offer was complete bullshit....

One wonders why Hatton never called him on it then.

Do you think Witter would have said no if Hatton had?

[Max Molyneux]

Witter even accepted the 100k offer.

[dan-b]

The difference always was the Hatton had options...Witter just had Hatton.

Back in for half ten? Lightweight!!!

I weren't out on the sauce, I just popped over to my cousins.:D