Would Katsidas kill Hatton in the ring?

[RealIzm]

Well I think he does...Your thoughts:think

[smoochp]

Their ko's look the same to me so I have to see how Mike looks in his next fight. The funny thing is I just got done watching that fight about a hour ago

[Dr Gonzo]

Hatton will get the better of him IMO, although it would be a blood bath. Hatton TKO7

[MSTR]

Stylistically this would be a bad fight for Hatton. Katsidis would still be very very strong at 140, and the guy can really punch. He loves mixing it up on the inside, and can match Ricky here punch for punch. If Ricky gets caught coming in open, or trading with katsidis (which will happen) there is a big chance of him getting hurt. Ricky is the better fighter, but Katsidis is real mongrel in there, who would love to go to war in the trenches with Hatton. Would be awesome to watch that's for sure. If i had to make a bet, I would slightly lean to Hatton being the more proven guy, but Katsidis is definitely an extremely live under dog.

[RealIzm]

My main reasoning has to do with Hatton only being able to throw 2 punches at a time before holding or smothering his opponent....Katsidas is a fighter that isnt susceptable to such tactics
Katsidas mid to late KO

[RealIzm]

Oh yea and Katsidas never seems to tire or slow down......Hattons stamina is mediocre at best

[RealIzm]

Vote people:)

[smoochp]

Vote people:)
Sorry I just did for Hatton, but trust me Mike can win also 50/50

[Amsterdam]

Stylistically this would be a bad fight for Hatton. Katsidis would still be very very strong at 140, and the guy can really punch. He loves mixing it up on the inside, and can match Ricky here punch for punch. If Ricky gets caught coming in open, or trading with katsidis (which will happen) there is a big chance of him getting hurt. Ricky is the better fighter, but Katsidis is real mongrel in there, who would love to go to war in the trenches with Hatton. Would be awesome to watch that's for sure. If i had to make a bet, I would slightly lean to Hatton being the more proven guy, but Katsidis is definitely an extremely live under dog.

Bullshit, Katsidis would get KTFO early. Hatton's hittable, but he's still fast and carries more power than Casamayor, quite a bit more actually and he'd nail the even more limited and even more fragile chinned Katsidis repeatedly until it's over.

I agree Kats can hurt Hatton and probably will, but stunning him won't save him from getting stopped himself, as Hatton's stronger and just better.

[RealIzm]

Bullshit, Katsidis would get KTFO early. Hatton's hittable, but he's still fast and carries more power than Casamayor, quite a bit more actually and he'd nail the even more limited and even more fragile chinned Katsidis repeatedly until it's over.

I agree Kats can hurt Hatton and probably will, but stunning him won't save him from getting stopped himself, as Hatton's stronger and just better.Could'nt be a more classic case of blind nutthuggery right here:good

Have fun with that idea mate

get back to hyping Mijares, at least he's worthy of defending:deal

[walk with me]

katsidas will win... hatton lack of defense will fuck him up

[planetzion]

look i went for Hatton but it would be a great fight....really great

tough night for both guys...a bloddy cut and bruise fest...they both get hit a lot and they both mark up a lot

[smoochp]

katsidas will win... hatton lack of defense will fuck him up
I hear you but Katsidas d is horrible also

[planetzion]

I hear you but Katsidas d is horrible also

this is what would make it a great fight...they both fuck each other up....

[psychopath]

Nopes . . . Hatton will walk over Katsidis.

IF an old worn out Casa was able to stop Kats . . . what makes you think he can beat the bigger Hatton.

[RealIzm]

Wow do you people who voted for Hatton really think Katsidas will be wrestled to a close UD loss or what because there is no way I can see Hatton dealing with his workrate, nor can I see Hatton taking that type of punishment for 12 rounds

So how does Hatton win? Body shot out of a clinch, or some lucky haymaker? Or maybe if the fights in Manchester he can just wrestle him to death?

[smoochp]

Wow do you people who voted for Hatton really think Katsidas will be wrestled to a close UD loss or what because there is no way I can see Hatton dealing with his workrate, nor can I see Hatton taking that type of punishment for 12 rounds

So how does Hatton win? Body shot out of a clinch, or some lucky haymaker? Or maybe if the fights in Manchester he can just wrestle him to death?
You should think about how u see Kat winning

[RealIzm]

You should think about how u see Kat winningok....how about you tell me how Hatton wins this one....I'll wait...:think

[boxbox]

Hatton via late rd KO....

[RealIzm]

Hatton via late rd KO....after surviving how many crushing knockdowns?

Hatton would look like ground beef after this one(keep in mind he was just banged up by a featherweight)

[smoochp]

ok....how about you tell me how Hatton wins this one....I'll wait...:think
Doing the same shit he always does PLUS HE IS THE BIGGER MAN AND HITS WAY HARDER THAN JOEL. So if Joel CAN DROP HIM FOUR TIMES WITH HIS LIGHT PUNCHES. WHAT U THINK HATTON CAN DO TO HIM

[RealIzm]

Doing the same shit he always does PLUS HE IS THE BIGGER MAN AND HITS WAY HARDER THAN JOEL. So if Joel CAN DROP HIM FOUR TIMES WITH HIS LIGHT PUNCHES. WHAT U THINK HATTON CAN DO TO HIMVery insightful:lol: However thanks for exposing yourself as another case of blind Hatton nuthuggery:thumbsup

[smoochp]

Very insightful:lol: However thanks for exposing yourself as another case of blind Hatton nuthuggery:thumbsup
Nope Floyd is my boy and would you like to see him vs Katsidis since he can beat Hatton in you view. Talking about worse than a Gatti fight. I don't jump on no fighters nuts. So how can Mike beat Hatton? Tell me about him because you probably only seen his only two fights in America

[psychopath]

Doing the same shit he always does PLUS HE IS THE BIGGER MAN AND HITS WAY HARDER THAN JOEL. So if Joel CAN DROP HIM FOUR TIMES WITH HIS LIGHT PUNCHES. WHAT U THINK HATTON CAN DO TO HIM

Isn't that what I'm saying? :D

Kats is a very hitable target and Hatton punch a lot stronger than Casa. Kats will be stopped dead on his track once Hatton connects with his punches.

[smoochp]

Isn't that what I'm saying? :D

Kats is a very hitable target and Hatton punch a lot stronger than Casa. Kats will be stopped dead on his track once Hatton connects with his punches.
:good

[RealIzm]

Nope Floyd is my boy and would you like to see him vs Katsidis since he can beat Hatton in you view. Talking about worse than a Gatti fight. I don't jump on no fighters nuts. So how can Mike beat Hatton? Tell me about him because you probably only seen his only two fights in AmericaKatsidas has the quicker hands and feet...Hatton also doesnt have a great amount of offense to make up for his lack of defense(something Katsidas has in spades)
Casa put Katsidas down from very well timed punches, Hatton doesnt really remind me of a slick southpaw with great ring intelligence, so that silly comparison holds no water.....Again Katsidas is too active, powerful, and quick(in comparison to Hatton) for Hatton to survive a 12 round fight...Hatton really has nothing to rely on but an occasional power punch, and just plain old ugly, smothering bullshit.....not very promising to say the least

just a side note: timing beats power and speed 99 times out of 100(in reference to Casas victory over Katsidas)

[smoochp]

Katsidas has the quicker hands and feet...Hatton also doesnt have a great amount of offense to make up for his lack of defense(something Katsidas has in spades)
Casa put Katsidas down from very well timed punches, Hatton doesnt really remind me of a slick southpaw with great ring intelligence, so that silly comparison holds no water.....Again Katsidas is too active, powerful, and quick(in comparison to Hatton) for Hatton to survive a 12 round fight...Hatton really has nothing to rely on but an occasional power punch, and just plain old ugly, smothering bullshit.....not very promising to say the least
OK, so dou think Kat will be the same after the beating Joel gave him?

[RealIzm]

OK, so dou think Kat will be the same after the beating Joel gave him?Sure, he's relatively fresh and will bounce back...It's not like a crushing defeat at the end of a fighters career or even the type of loss that gives one Lacy's Disease(the research center is in Cardiff)It was a war:fire one that certainly shouldnt inspire him to hide in shame, quite the opposite:good

[smoochp]

Sure, he's relatively fresh and will bounce back...It's not like a crushing defeat at the end of a fighters career or even the type of loss that gives one Lacy's Disease(the research center is in Cardiff)It was a war:fire one that certainly shouldnt inspire him to hide in shame, quite the opposite:good
I can feel u on that, but I hope he does well at 135 before he makes the jump to 140. Shit he is one of the few who brings the pain

[RealIzm]

I can feel u on that, but I hope he does well at 135 before he makes the jump to 140. Shit he is one of the few who brings the painExactly:good Sorry if I sound like I'm dissing Hatton but as I've mentioned before I've TRIED to like him...I've rooted for him several times, each time afterwards I'm overcome with disappointment, mainly due to his wrestling style, it all came together in the Collazo fight which I had scored 115-113 for Collazo who did a great job of exposing Hatton and I felt did everything he needed to deserve a victory...and was robbed.....
Sure he may have a great personality and be one of the mates but there are more inspiring(and credible reasons)to latch on to a fighter(or even support him)

[boxbox]

after surviving how many crushing knockdowns?

Hatton would look like ground beef after this one(keep in mind he was just banged up by a featherweight)

Hatton hits harder than any of Kats previous opponent, and he cuts easily. Plus you fail to consider Kats carelessness in the ring. Hatton admitted being nervous like crazy in his last fight, which i think is the natural reaction after having your first loss. But he already passed that and im pretty sure he will regain confidence thereafter. Kat on the otherhand is coming off a loss, and frankly he has yet to prove he can come back. Im sure he will, but then Hatton will be ahead mentally.

[Alo2006]

This would be a good slugfest, but Hatton by KO

[MSTR]

Bullshit, Katsidis would get KTFO early. Hatton's hittable, but he's still fast and carries more power than Casamayor, quite a bit more actually and he'd nail the even more limited and even more fragile chinned Katsidis repeatedly until it's over.

I agree Kats can hurt Hatton and probably will, but stunning him won't save him from getting stopped himself, as Hatton's stronger and just better.

When did hatton suddenly become a puncher... Katsidis has trouble vs southpaws, and eats too many straight left hands. Against Ricky, no one shot is going to be coming through. Ricky breaks guys down with accumulation. I agree Hatton is the better fighter, but he fights in a way that suits katsidis to a tee. Katsidis can bang better then Hatton, and both are chinny. Both love fighting on the inside. Toe to Toe, this fight is very even. I think Hatton is the better combination puncher, and should be able to eventually overwhelm Katsids, but all i'm saying is that it wouldn't suprise me to see Katsids KO Hatton either if he gets tagged.

[kel]

I don't think Hatton will be any bigger in the ring if both meet at 140lbs. The Hatton that beat Zoo that night in Manchester wld beat Katisdis imo fairly easliy, however a fading Hatton and a more experienced Kats would be a good fight if it was around Nov 2009.

Hatton wld start favourite imo

[smoochp]

Exactly:good Sorry if I sound like I'm dissing Hatton but as I've mentioned before I've TRIED to like him...I've rooted for him several times, each time afterwards I'm overcome with disappointment, mainly due to his wrestling style, it all came together in the Collazo fight which I had scored 115-113 for Collazo who did a great job of exposing Hatton and I felt did everything he needed to deserve a victory...and was robbed.....
Sure he may have a great personality and be one of the mates but there are more inspiring(and credible reasons)to latch on to a fighter(or even support him)
Trust me I will be the first to tell u that Hatton doesn't seem to be same since Tszyu. His fights with Uranango, Collazo, Laricono, Castillo, and Floyd he never looked good. But I like him because he tries and takes risk. But I felt as if the Castillo fight was fixed. Jose had to pay off debt so who in there mind is going to train for a fight that doesn't mean anything.

[Dantes]

this is what would make it a great fight...they both fuck each other up....

:good

[MSTR]

I don't think Hatton will be any bigger in the ring if both meet at 140lbs. The Hatton that beat Zoo that night in Manchester wld beat Katisdis imo fairly easliy, however a fading Hatton and a more experienced Kats would be a good fight if it was around Nov 2009.

Hatton wld start favourite imo

Agreed, Hatton would certainly be the favourite. And is the more well rounded fighter. However, he can only fight one way, which suits Katsidis style. It would be a war, and Ricky just isn't a puncher, no matter how hard people here try and convince you otherwise. Katsidis defence is terrible vs southpaws, and bad when trying to cut the ring off, but tight in close quarters. He keeps his guard very high, and his punches are very tight. He has good hand speed, slightly less then Hatton but still decent in close. The fight would be very much back and forth, and i really can't see Katsidis getting stopped early, the chance is small. Some people will jump on this thread and exaggerate yelling about a Hatton early KO, but the reality is, this will most likely become a rough and bloody fight, with one person getting stopped in the latter rounds. IMO, it could realistically be either guy. Anyone who thinks otherwise, isn't looking at this properly IMO.

[RealIzm]

Exactly:good Sorry if I sound like I'm dissing Hatton but as I've mentioned before I've TRIED to like him...I've rooted for him several times, each time afterwards I'm overcome with disappointment, mainly due to his wrestling style, it all came together in the Collazo fight which I had scored 115-113 for Collazo who did a great job of exposing Hatton and I felt did everything he needed to deserve a victory...and was robbed.....
Sure he may have a great personality and be one of the mates but there are more inspiring(and credible reasons)to latch on to a fighter(or even support him)Hattons last performance wasnt any different than many others of his I've seen...So the nervous excuse was needed as of course Hatton couldnt finish his man....How many times did you see Hatton throw more that 2 punches before smothering Lazcano? Not many...well Why???????????????

Either he has no stamina
or no faith in his ability to actually punch or box his way to victory
or he is mentally shot

It's more than obvious that Hatton is relying on a hope and a prayer..well he's running out

[Ubersteve]

Hatton beats him up, gets smashed up himself a bit in the process and it leads to a lot of threads on here.

[RealIzm]

Hatton beats him up, gets smashed up himself a bit in the process and it leads to a lot of threads on here.So who wins then?

[huki]

Unless Hatton became completely shot, he would be the one killing Katsidis. Why is Katsidis even being treated like a top 10 H2H fighter at 140 when he barely is one at 135?

[RealIzm]

Unless Hatton became completely shot, he would be the one killing Katsidis. Why is Katsidis even being treated like a top 10 H2H fighter at 140 when he barely is one at 135?C'mon Huki, it couldnt be anymore obvious

[psychopath]

Unless Hatton became completely shot, he would be the one killing Katsidis. Why is Katsidis even being treated like a top 10 H2H fighter at 140 when he barely is one at 135?

:D :yep

:deal LATEST POLL count 30 for Hatton; 11 for Kats

:good

[Amsterdam]

Agreed, Hatton would certainly be the favourite. And is the more well rounded fighter. However, he can only fight one way, which suits Katsidis style. It would be a war, and Ricky just isn't a puncher, no matter how hard people here try and convince you otherwise. Katsidis defence is terrible vs southpaws, and bad when trying to cut the ring off, but tight in close quarters. He keeps his guard very high, and his punches are very tight. He has good hand speed, slightly less then Hatton but still decent in close. The fight would be very much back and forth, and i really can't see Katsidis getting stopped early, the chance is small. Some people will jump on this thread and exaggerate yelling about a Hatton early KO, but the reality is, this will most likely become a rough and bloody fight, with one person getting stopped in the latter rounds. IMO, it could realistically be either guy. Anyone who thinks otherwise, isn't looking at this properly IMO.

Is Joel Casamayor a KO puncher?

Hatton will land flush hooks on Kats, that won't be a problem. Let me ask you, who hits harder, Hatton or Casamayor?

[RealIzm]

:D :yep

:deal LATEST POLL count 30 for Hatton; 11 for Kats

:good:lol: you bastard

[psychopath]

:lol: you bastard

Relax buddy . . . this is fun. :D :lol:

[Strike]

Oh yea and Katsidas never seems to tire or slow down......Hattons stamina is mediocre at best

:lol::lol::lol:

Kat never tires?? Did you watch his fight against shot Graham Earl? He was so fucked by round 5 that he was landing flush time and time again and Earl was taking the punches and firing back. The same Earl who was destroyed inside a minute by Khan in his next fight.

Kats power is good but overrated and it wanes if he goes deeper. He went 7 or 8 rounds with Sergio Liendo, before a hand injury made Liendo retire. Liendo was a blown up featherweight who got KOd COLD by Hamed in about 1994.

He would have a punchers chance against Hatton and that is all, but going life and death with Graham Earl and being beaten by Casamayor does nothing to suggest he should be in the ring with someone who has beaten the people Hatton has.

More anti British hate from Realizm...what a surprise.

[Amsterdam]

:lol::lol::lol:

Kat never tires?? Did you watch his fight against shot Graham Earl? He was so fucked by round 5 that he was landing flush time and time again and Earl was taking the punches and firing back. The same Earl who was destroyed inside a minute by Khan in his next fight.

Kats power is good but overrated and it wanes if he goes deeper. He went 7 or 8 rounds with Sergio Liendo, before a hand injury made Liendo retire. Liendo was a blown up featherweight who got KOd COLD by Hamed in about 1994.

He would have a punchers chance against Hatton and that is all, but going life and death with Graham Earl and being beaten by Casamayor does nothing to suggest he should be in the ring with someone who has beaten the people Hatton has.

More anti British hate from Realizm...what a surprise.

It's unbelievable that Katsidis would be favoured over any top fighter, with a reasonable punch, or any top fighter period, though it's clear a top fighter with a reasonable punch takes care of him with little trouble, considering a shotty Casa with a mediocre punch took him out.

And I don't mean to insult Casa, big fan here actually and I won some serious money on that fight, but the mans never been a puncher per say, a stiff hitter at his best and he's shot now, by all means, he's shot.

Katsidis is a TV level fighter.

[BigBone]

Who is this Katsidas? :huh

[Shifty107]

Who is this Katsidas? :huh

How could u say that bone. :|

[Fat Joe]

Kat never tires?? Did you watch his fight against shot Graham Earl?

Liendo was a blown up featherweight who got KOd COLD by Hamed in about 1994.

The Earl fight is the one that makes me think Hatton has an easy nights work with Katsidis.

I remember that Hamed fight against Liendo at SBW I'm sure.

[mattress]

Could'nt be a more classic case of blind nutthuggery right here:good

Have fun with that idea mate

get back to hyping Mijares, at least he's worthy of defending:deal

you asked for peoples thoughts and then accuse them of nuthuggery when their ideas don't match yours???? :patsch

[mattress]

Is Joel Casamayor a KO puncher?

Hatton will land flush hooks on Kats, that won't be a problem. Let me ask you, who hits harder, Hatton or Casamayor?

his analysis is based on hate rather than punching power.

[hitman_hatton1]

hatton would cream him. :patsch

[rreed23]

Hatton KO

[Strike]

The Earl fight is the one that makes me think Hatton has an easy nights work with Katsidis.

I remember that Hamed fight against Liendo at SBW I'm sure.

The Hamed vs Liendo fight may well have been at Super Bantam actually...in fact now you mention it I am almost certain it was. Liendo looked like a Super Bantam or Feather and he was out cold. Unconcious for over a minute, and recieving treatment in the ring for several minutes after.

At two or (as you point out) probably three weight divisions up he takes everything Kat is throwing for 7 rounds and is not stopped.
I know 1 fight is not a way to judge someone and direct comparisons are not totally reliable like that, but when you add in Earl taking flush bombs from Kat and coming back and the fact that kat has gone the distance with a guy who was stopped by Rabah and St Clair...

I think his power is overhyped. It is clearly good power, but his opponents have by and large been very weak and he has failed to put away guys who have been destroyed by smaller men and by other prospects in his weight class.

[Ubersteve]

So who wins then?

Hatton mid round KO.

[roly]

Katsidas has the quicker hands and feet...Hatton also doesnt have a great amount of offense to make up for his lack of defense(something Katsidas has in spades)
Casa put Katsidas down from very well timed punches, Hatton doesnt really remind me of a slick southpaw with great ring intelligence, so that silly comparison holds no water.....Again Katsidas is too active, powerful, and quick(in comparison to Hatton) for Hatton to survive a 12 round fight...Hatton really has nothing to rely on but an occasional power punch, and just plain old ugly, smothering bullshit.....not very promising to say the least

just a side note: timing beats power and speed 99 times out of 100(in reference to Casas victory over Katsidas)

a shot graham earl dropped katsidis and khan ko'd earl in 1 round in his next fight.

[roly]

When did hatton suddenly become a puncher... Katsidis has trouble vs southpaws, and eats too many straight left hands. Against Ricky, no one shot is going to be coming through. Ricky breaks guys down with accumulation. I agree Hatton is the better fighter, but he fights in a way that suits katsidis to a tee. Katsidis can bang better then Hatton, and both are chinny. Both love fighting on the inside. Toe to Toe, this fight is very even. I think Hatton is the better combination puncher, and should be able to eventually overwhelm Katsids, but all i'm saying is that it wouldn't suprise me to see Katsids KO Hatton either if he gets tagged.

lol hatton is "chinny" now is he. hatton ko by the mid rounds.

[roly]

Trust me I will be the first to tell u that Hatton doesn't seem to be same since Tszyu. His fights with Uranango, Collazo, Laricono, Castillo, and Floyd he never looked good. But I like him because he tries and takes risk. But I felt as if the Castillo fight was fixed. Jose had to pay off debt so who in there mind is going to train for a fight that doesn't mean anything.

hatton did look good when he fought castillo. and if your pathetic theory was correct, surely castillo would have wanted to beat hatton to be the man at 140, to ensure ots of future big money fights ahead.

[roly]

Unless Hatton became completely shot, he would be the one killing Katsidis. Why is Katsidis even being treated like a top 10 H2H fighter at 140 when he barely is one at 135?

exactly

[TFFP]

What the fuck is this? :rofl

Nearly every Hatton weakness you could name, Katsidis does it ten times worse. He has a TERRIBLE defence, even worse than Hatton's. He's got a shakey as hell chin, and thats at 135. Hatton has more skill, believe it or not. He has more power than Casamayor or Graham Earl, who hurt him repeatedly, and throw into the mix Hatton is a natural 140lb fighter and you've got a very easy pick

Jesus wept.

[Fat Joe]

Nearly every Hatton weakness you could name, Katsidis does it ten times worse.

Yes Katsidis is a smaller inferior version of Hatton

[Fat Joe]

Kats power is good but overrated and it wanes if he goes deeper. He went 7 or 8 rounds with Sergio Liendo, before a hand injury made Liendo retire. Liendo was a blown up featherweight who got KOd COLD by Hamed in about 1994.

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[TFFP]

I downloaded Kat-Casa yesterday, and Casa said he couldn't punch shit :lol:

Don't know whether I believe him, he looked on wobbly legs to me. Claimed it was a slip :yep

[ron u.k.]

Well I think he does...Your thoughts:thinkso you don't live up to your name then?

[Beeston Brawler]

Hatton would hammer Katsidis into next year.

The guy makes Ricky Hatton's defence look better than that of Floyd Mayweather, and having been dropped by Graham Earl (average punching 135) has made public a severe chin problem.

He will probably have success at times, but Hatton's general ring savvy is underrated IMO - meaning a TKO in six or seven.

[196osh]

Your thoughts:think

You are mentally retarded....:smooch

Hatton TKO8

[mattress]

This thread is pathetic even by realjizm's already low standards.

[Drexl]

katsidas will win... hatton lack of defense will fuck him up

Yeah... and Katsidis' defense is water-tight, right? :roll:

[MSTR]

Is Joel Casamayor a KO puncher?

Hatton will land flush hooks on Kats, that won't be a problem. Let me ask you, who hits harder, Hatton or Casamayor?

But Katsidis got caught on the counter coming in hard against Casamayor, and cold in the first round. Katsidis is definitely chinny, but Hatton won't land the same punches that Casamayor did, because they are totally different fighters. Hatton and Katsidis will be toe to toe, which doesn't really give Ricky a lot of room to load up.

[MSTR]

I think some people on here are exaggerating Hatton to a degree... Look at the guys who have taken him the distance... Carolos fucking Maussa went 9 rounds with him FFS.. Maussa is just as chinny as Katsidis, and a MUCH worse fighter. It won't be an early KO. I favour Hatton for sure, but it could potentially be a hard fight. They both don't have much defence, both love fighting in close, both love rough wars. Most likely, thats what this becomes. As you know, when a fight turns into a war, with two guys with less then great chins, anything could happen. That is all I am saying. Hatton has a slightly better chin, Katsidis has slightly more power. Hatton is the better overall fighter no doubt, but he is playing to Katsidis strengths in this one no question.

[Samurai]

You are mentally retarded....:smooch

Hatton TKO8

:yep

[Beeston Brawler]

To be fair to Hatton, he spent the first five rounds looking for a one punch KO, trying to take his head off!

When he used his boxing skills he had him out of there pretty smartly - don't forget Cotto took eight rounds.

Maussa had a reasonable chin, as he was taking a shit load of punishment - and had the most awkward style of any fighter I have ever seen!

[GazOC]

Katsidis is fringe world class at 135. Hatton, whether you like him or not, is genuine world class at 140. Forget the Casa loss, thats excusable but Katsidis had trouble a British level fighter in Earl and nearly lost the ordinary Amonsot. I can't see anything in his style or on his record to show he could be a force at 140. Hell, his best result at 135 is a loss!!

[TFFP]

I think some people on here are exaggerating Hatton to a degree... Look at the guys who have taken him the distance... Carolos fucking Maussa went 9 rounds with him FFS.. Maussa is just as chinny as Katsidis, and a MUCH worse fighter. It won't be an early KO. I favour Hatton for sure, but it could potentially be a hard fight. They both don't have much defence, both love fighting in close, both love rough wars. Most likely, thats what this becomes. As you know, when a fight turns into a war, with two guys with less then great chins, anything could happen. That is all I am saying. Hatton has a slightly better chin, Katsidis has slightly more power. Hatton is the better overall fighter no doubt, but he is playing to Katsidis strengths in this one no question. Katsidis has more power...how?

Who has he knocked out to show this devastating power? Graham Earl? :huh

Hatton has a proven track record of being able to hurt good competition at 140. Fanciful statement.

[ChampionsForever]

Hattons stamina is mediocre at best:roll:

[warrior85]

hatton in the mid rounds

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most are ither stupid, australian or both

[Strike]

I think some people on here are exaggerating Hatton to a degree... Look at the guys who have taken him the distance... Carolos fucking Maussa went 9 rounds with him FFS.. Maussa is just as chinny as Katsidis, and a MUCH worse fighter. It won't be an early KO. I favour Hatton for sure, but it could potentially be a hard fight. They both don't have much defence, both love fighting in close, both love rough wars. Most likely, thats what this becomes. As you know, when a fight turns into a war, with two guys with less then great chins, anything could happen. That is all I am saying. Hatton has a slightly better chin, Katsidis has slightly more power. Hatton is the better overall fighter no doubt, but he is playing to Katsidis strengths in this one no question.

Kats power has been proven against bums. Not meaning to sound disrespectful but name me a top 15 fighter he has stopped. He made his name KOing total nobodies and not even durable nobodies. There are plenty of journeymen who are tough and durable and even that sort of name is pretty much absent from his record.

He was taken 8 rounds by a super bantam weight who was almost killed by Hamed. He went 12 rounds with a guy that Ben Rabah KOd inside 3 rounds and who feather fisted St Clair stopped too.

He landed untold number of flush bombs on Graham Earls chin and Earl took them and then nearly stopped Kat. Earl was SHOT to shit and still wasn't put away despite eating punches round after round...next fight and Earl is obliterated inside the first 60 seconds by Khan.

Kat was out on his feet to Earl and stopped by Casamayor. Hatton has taken clean punches from Tsyzu, Tackie, Phillips, has been hit by Urango and has stood toe to toe with Castillo....and been stopped the once.

There chins are not comparable. There defences are both shaky, but every other aspect of Hattons game is better bar possibly power, but honestly I haven't seen a single name on Kats record that really backs up his hype as a big puncher.

And the first time Kat has stepped into a higher level he has lost.

[Kegsy]

Kats power has been proven against bums. Not meaning to sound disrespectful but name me a top 15 fighter he has stopped.
Ranee Ganoy

[Strike]

Ranee Ganoy

Top 15 of what? Australia?

The guy has a 24-10 record, has been KOd 5 times including by the likes of....Joebar Damosmog (17-31), Rex Marzan (14-22), and has several other losses to nobody Asian fighters with 50/50 records.

What top 15 does Ranee Ganoy get into?

[nezy37]

As easy as Hatton is to hit Katsidas is that much more open'

[Dorfmeister]

There are just two fights I wanted more than Katsidis-Hatton, one is happening thank Almighty Lord ( Cotto - Margarito) and the other one lives up in my dreams ( Guerrero - Linares). If Michael Katsidis comes at Ricky Hatton the way he always does... Damn! I mean, I wouldn't mind what would happen... Give me that fight and I am about to give up on every single HWT fight for the rest of my life.

[treva1977]

Vote people:)

no. hatton would smash his ribs in by the six round.

[ethandelahoya]

am shocked this fight has never crossed my mind this wud be awesome to watch , hatton late round stoppage after a total war!

[Sheehan]

after surviving how many crushing knockdowns?

Hatton would look like ground beef after this one(keep in mind he was just banged up by a featherweight)

graham earl was close to getting katsidis out of there at one point, Hatton has np

[Cruiser1]

I understand that the Aussies are supportive of their man but let's get serious here. Hatton would be too much for him. Katsidis would be seriously outgunned.

That's not to say the fight won't last for a while. I can see it going 9 or 10 rounds but it would be a one-sided fight for Hatton with Katsidis having his moments here and there before being stopped.

[Drexl]

Hatton by KTFO or TKO due to cuts.

...then everyone criticizes Hatton for taking the fight because Katsidis was too small/overrated/etc..

:roll:

[roly]

Hatton by KTFO or TKO due to cuts.

...then everyone criticizes Hatton for taking the fight because Katsidis was too small/overrated/etc..

:roll:

ain't that the truth

[fidds]

Hatton will never be able to do anything to stop the hatred, it dosen't matter what he does or who he beats some dicks will always try and put a spin on it and put him down.

Some people have nothing better to do then run down the men who have got the courage to step in the ring and put it all on the line.

Cut the kid some slack, he is a real tough guy who is the recognised man in his natural weight class, he also had a breif reign in the one above.

All in all if he hung up his gloves now, he has done more then most fighters out there will ever do.

Why not enjoy the last 3 fights or so of his career, and if you don't like him don't fucking watch it isn't hard :good

No need to keep making up bs to discredit him, just because he is british, european or he is to white.

Or he takes to many shots or what he does on his time off, it's up to him as long as he keeps winning and is willing to take on the cream of the 140 division good luck to him.

[Cruiser1]

Hatton by KTFO or TKO due to cuts.

...then everyone criticizes Hatton for taking the fight because Katsidis was too small/overrated/etc..

:roll:

It's not happening anytime soon. Katsidis would have to beat a name fighter before even being considered as a potential opponent. Hatton would be crucified for taking on Katsidis at this point considering that he's a smaller guy who lost his biggest fight.

[Mikey]

Hatton will never be able to do anything to stop the hatred, it dosen't matter what he does or who he beats some dicks will always try and put a spin on it and put him down.


Spin? ffs

All the Hatton team are the king of spin.



Anywho am I the only one who thinks Katsidis is an average banger at best? Katsidis couldnt get past Khan never mind Hatton.

Entertaining for sure, but I think he is a less skilled version of a Ward or Gatti.

[pecks]

He landed untold number of flush bombs on Graham Earls chin and Earl took them and then nearly stopped Kat. Earl was SHOT to shit and still wasn't put away despite eating punches round after round...next fight and Earl is obliterated inside the first 60 seconds by Khan.

Kat was out on his feet to Earl and stopped by Casamayor. Hatton has taken clean punches from Tsyzu, Tackie, Phillips, has been hit by Urango and has stood toe to toe with Castillo....and been stopped the once.
I voted for hatton in the poll, but to be fair, the Earl fight should have never gone over 2 rounds, as that fight should have been stopped when Earl's corner threw in the towel. He wasn't all that far away from putting him away in the first too, though whatever followed in that fight did prove that Kat's chin is a bit of a worry, especially considering his style.

I don't see an early stoppage in this one. I think Kat will land and do damage to hatton, but I think hatton stops him around the 10th in an entertaining fight.

[Drexl]

It's not happening anytime soon. Katsidis would have to beat a name fighter before even being considered as a potential opponent. Hatton would be crucified for taking on Katsidis at this point considering that he's a smaller guy who lost his biggest fight.

Yet there are a few haters on here telling us that Katsidis would win easily. Go figure.

:yep

[Kegsy]

Top 15 of what? Australia?

The guy has a 24-10 record, has been KOd 5 times including by the likes of....Joebar Damosmog (17-31), Rex Marzan (14-22), and has several other losses to nobody Asian fighters with 50/50 records.

What top 15 does Ranee Ganoy get into?
Obviously u dont know that Ganoy is ranked inside the IBF's top 15 & is on an amazing winning streak including the destruction of former world champ Robbie Peden.
Ganoy is a machine & is ranked in most knowlegeable people's Lightweight top 20 at least.

I see u are pulling fights from 2002 mate via boxrec, in regards to those KO losses.:lol:
I suggest u take a look at some of his more recent outings.

[MSTR]

Obviously u dont know that Ganoy is ranked inside the IBF's top 15 & is on an amazing winning streak including the destruction of former world champ Robbie Peden.
Ganoy is a machine & is ranked in most knowlegeable people's Lightweight top 20 at least.

I see u are pulling fights from 2002 mate via boxrec, in regards to those KO losses.:lol:
I suggest u take a look at some of his more recent outings.

Good post mate. Hit the nail on the head.

[MSTR]

To Strike as well, if you don't think Katsidis has power, you should ask Amonsot who suffered permenant damage and may never fight again. How about you ask Casamayor, a guy with an iron chin who was definitely hurt and put through the ropes by Katsidis. Or Earl, who was absolutely RUINED by Katsidis. Katsidis was CLEARLY winning against Casamayor, before getting careless. Yes, he doesn't have an iron chin, but he isn't the total bum some are making him out to be. I just watched a guy like Lazcano hurt Hatton, and I have seen a light hitter like Collazo almost finish him. I have also seen him KTFO by a light hitting Mayweather, and hurt against guys like Magee. To suggest that Katsidis can't hurt him is ridiculous. As said earlier, Hatton would be the favourite. However in a war, which is what this would be, anything can happen, especially considering the chin of both men.

[AussieMauler]

As they both use their faces to deflect punches i suggest a head butting contest

[Dirty Bastard]

Katsidis late KO...not TKO

[Monticello]

I think Hatton still beats him right now. Both are good fighters, but Hatton has proven he is a top fighter at 140. Katsidis is at 135 and didn't beat the man there.

[Monticello]

hatton had trouble with luzcano........ LUZCANO.

True, but he still beat him pretty convincingly. Katsidis was KO'd by Casamayor.

[Monticello]

yo. lets keep in mind that luzcano was a blown up handpicked lightweight that aint fought in over a year.

casa is seasoned with actual boxing skills that ricky lacks.

Yea, but Hatton is coming off of his first loss which was by KO. Every fighter reacts differently coming off a loss. When Hatton came back from 147, he didn't look very impressive either against Juan Lazcano.

[Beeston Brawler]

Do you mean Juan Urango, from his first trip to 147?

In any case, Urango was schooled!

[BoppaZoo]

To Strike as well, if you don't think Katsidis has power, you should ask Amonsot who suffered permenant damage and may never fight again. How about you ask Casamayor, a guy with an iron chin who was definitely hurt and put through the ropes by Katsidis. Or Earl, who was absolutely RUINED by Katsidis. Katsidis was CLEARLY winning against Casamayor, before getting careless. Yes, he doesn't have an iron chin, but he isn't the total bum some are making him out to be. I just watched a guy like Lazcano hurt Hatton, and I have seen a light hitter like Collazo almost finish him. I have also seen him KTFO by a light hitting Mayweather, and hurt against guys like Magee. To suggest that Katsidis can't hurt him is ridiculous. As said earlier, Hatton would be the favourite. However in a war, which is what this would be, anything can happen, especially considering the chin of both men.Great Post MSTR.
Every one here is just gone for the fact that because Hatton has wins against better oppisition they keep over looking the fact that styles make fights.
And with these two guys styles both men have every chance to win with there power there sloppy defence and there average chins.

Its that simple.
Casamayor has hardly ever been hurt his entire career. Yet Katsidis had him Fucked and through the ropes yet that to some means nothing because Casamayor isnt as good as Hatton.

Styles make fights and this fight is for the fans that would love to see it and im one of them.

[SouthLondonsFinest]

To Strike as well, if you don't think Katsidis has power, you should ask Amonsot who suffered permenant damage and may never fight again. How about you ask Casamayor, a guy with an iron chin who was definitely hurt and put through the ropes by Katsidis. Or Earl, who was absolutely RUINED by Katsidis. Katsidis was CLEARLY winning against Casamayor, before getting careless. Yes, he doesn't have an iron chin, but he isn't the total bum some are making him out to be. I just watched a guy like Lazcano hurt Hatton, and I have seen a light hitter like Collazo almost finish him. I have also seen him KTFO by a light hitting Mayweather, and hurt against guys like Magee. To suggest that Katsidis can't hurt him is ridiculous. As said earlier, Hatton would be the favourite. However in a war, which is what this would be, anything can happen, especially considering the chin of both men.

using Amonost as an example is pretty bad bro, and Kats getting bashed up as much as he did agaisnt someone of his calibre is pretty piss poor..
trying nation pride out te equation, Hatton is in a totally different league

[Beeston Brawler]

Gents - lets clear this up.

Collazo is a southpaw and hardly feather fisted at WELTERWEIGHT - had a fair few fights at light middle, and Hatton ALWAYS looks shit against southpaws.

Magee was a coming of age for Hatton. For the first time he took notice of the trash talk in the media and tried to take Eamon's head off, and got dumped in the first (flash KD) and hammered in the second (genuine) before outboxing him to a wide UD. Magee & Hatton are now great mates, strangely enough.

Mayweather is hardly feather fisted, having almost 66% KO ratio - and a number of his fights have been against larger men (Baldo, DLH etc).

Hatton is in a totally different league to Katsidis - decked by Graham Earl, who was subsequently blown away by Amir Khan in 72 seconds. Not that it amounts to a string of beans, but offers an indication.

The Greek Warrior may be a great entertainer, but elite he ain't.

[BoppaZoo]

You have two different guys one guy
Hatton who is a better fighter Yes i will agree with this but to come out start saying that Katsidis is a bum and not worthy.
This is BS. Uk fans think the same thing about Katsidis they all think he cant fight. But i can tell you this he isnt afraid to fight anywhere or anyone like a Mr Ricky Fatton is.
Took Hatton 3 Years to man up to facing PBF and dont get me started about facing Witter.
Yet Katsidis was ready to go against Guzman then Joan pulled out some lame excuse, then he wanted Juan Diaz but Diaz lost so he went after Casamayor.

Yet Katsidis is called a bum and so and so by the fans that watched Hatton not fight for a title until his 39th Pro fight. When Katsidis already won a title in his 22nd Pro fight. Yet you call Katsidis a B level fighter or one other comment was a TV Level fighter.

I feel some on this board need to read before they type and make judgements on a guy that would fight anyone and give everyone there moneys worth when they Pay to watch unlike one R.Hatton.

Yes Hatton wins and Yes he has decent fight worthy of watching in every 3 but to say what has been said when truely i feel yes Hatton might win but who cares because if this fight went ahead who really wins is us the fans.

[Bentchassis]

Great Post MSTR.
Every one here is just gone for the fact that because Hatton has wins against better oppisition they keep over looking the fact that styles make fights.
And with these two guys styles both men have every chance to win with there power there sloppy defence and there average chins.

Its that simple.
Casamayor has hardly ever been hurt his entire career. Yet Katsidis had him Fucked and through the ropes yet that to some means nothing because Casamayor isnt as good as Hatton.

Styles make fights and this fight is for the fans that would love to see it and im one of them.
Yep exactly

I think people are missing the variables here that make this a competitive fight.

Kat's actually stylistically suited to not overly technical, pressure type fighter like Hatton.

Hatton has advantages here. He's more well rounded for sure, but that only pays off if he can hurt Kat like Casa did.

Casa was able to distance Kat, which is why he started walking head first into well timed shots, obviously this increases their effect and stunned Kat silly.

Hatton and Kat play this one out like they always do, feverishly attacking without abandon.

Kat would lose to worse fighters than Hatton, I've always said at this point Kat gets beat by smart, accurate, patient opponents, however Hatton doesn't always apply these characteristics and could very well get hurt himself.

By the way my argument is only that this is more competitive due to styles, my feeling is Hatton has to much to offer still and Kat's chin is worrying.

[mattress]

But i can tell you this he isnt afraid to fight anywhere or anyone like a Mr Ricky Fatton is.

Do you really expect to be taken seriously when you demean yourself with silly comments like that?:patsch

[RealIzm]

Wow some serious, ubiased analysis(sorta)
I picked Katsidis for some of the same reasons mentioned already by many
Katsidas is too busy and too powerful for Hatton....
Hatton isn't the smart slick southpaw that Casamayor is or to be honest I don't think Hatton is that smart(in the ring) at all..Katsidas when he isn't throwing punches has a decent defense, however again it's not often that he's not throwing punches...
Hattons offense which consists mainly of throwing 2 punches and clinching won't work outside of Manchester

[RealIzm]

Do you really expect to be taken seriously when you demean yourself with silly comments like that?:patschTaken from the pro himself:-(

[rydersonthestorm]

If graham earl can give kats alot of trouble why wouldn't hatton just tear straight through him.

[RealIzm]

If graham earl can give kats alot of trouble why wouldn't hatton just tear straight through him.Well with that logic what makes you think Hatton who was almost put out by an out of work featherweight can stand up to a fighter that actually knows how to FIGHT on the inside instead of wrestle?

[mattress]

Taken from the pro himself:-(

I'll take that as a complement from a bullshitter like you, Jizm.

[RealIzm]

I'll take that as a complement from a bullshitter like you, Jizm.:lol: I'm flattered:D

[rydersonthestorm]

Well with that logic what makes you think Hatton who was almost put out by an out of work featherweight can stand up to a fighter that actually knows how to FIGHT on the inside instead of wrestle?
what fighter would that be:huh

[Strike]

Wow some serious, ubiased analysis(sorta)
I picked Katsidis for some of the same reasons mentioned already by many
Katsidas is too busy and too powerful for Hatton....
Hatton isn't the smart slick southpaw that Casamayor is or to be honest I don't think Hatton is that smart(in the ring) at all..Katsidas when he isn't throwing punches has a decent defense, however again it's not often that he's not throwing punches...
Hattons offense which consists mainly of throwing 2 punches and clinching won't work outside of Manchester

No you picked Kat because you hate on Hatton, Calzaghe and any British fighter there is.

I like Kat, he is exciting and has the right attitude. But he has beaten nobody of any note at all.
Sorry but when the best someone can offer is Ranee Ganoy and then try and hype up a guy who has a 24-10 record and who has been KOd 5 times by either nobodies or decent fighters with no pop like Rabah it is a farce.

I am now told that fights from 2002, 2003 and 2004 don't mean anything, fucking Ranee Ganoy is a "machine".:lol: :lol:
Because he has one excellent win over Robbie Peden, and whilst that win deserves respect, Peden had been out for 2 years, so time will tell if he actually has anything close to what he had in his prime.

Kat went life and death with a shot Graham Earl was European level at his best. Everyone in Britain knew Earl was shot and expected him to get blasted out and he nearly did, but he sucked up the shots and then nearly stopped Kat. He then ate clean bombs for the next 3 rounds and fired back, actually getting the better in a few exchanges and was right in the fight when his corner pulled him out.

This is a guy who was Euro level at his peak, who was over the hill and who was destroyed inside 60 seconds in his next bout, and people here are trying to tell us that Kat ruined him.:roll:

So Kat bangs out against average lightweights and has good power which dropped and hurt Casamayor. Suddenly Casamayor has never been dropped, even though he has been floored by 4 fighters before Kat and was down in his last bout, and is past it.

Styles do make fights and Kat has a punchers chance and that is it. Even then Hatton has been most hurt by fast, accurate shots he has not seen coming and not telegraphed bombs. I don't give Kat much chance at all, someone saying they do is fine.

Someone saying he would kill Hatton, when Kat has stepped up in class once and been stopped and does not have a single quality name on his record is a total joke.

[BoppaZoo]

Do you really expect to be taken seriously when you demean yourself with silly comments like that?:patschSo fighting a 40 year Phillips, a 38 Year old Pendleton, a 36 Year old Maussa, a 35 year old Oliviera, a 36 Year old Tszyu, a 37 year old Pep, a 34 year old Castillo. Now you cant say i think he wasnt over protected and hasnt got the same size nuts Katsidis has.

My comments are the truth. You expect me to say Hatton is some sort of higher power that is on the verge of greatness when its more likely that he has the most protected record known to man kind.

Waits 2 years to fight PBF, has fought 4 times outside the UK in 44 Pro fights.
in 44 Pro fights has had 7 Title fights.
Katsidis has had 3 Title fights in just 24 bouts aswell as 3 outside Australia already.

I dont see what your trying to get at.
Should i get started about who Hatton fought in his 24th Pro fight.

Yep you guessed it Jason Rowland for the WBU title of the World.

So we will see how or what Katsidis has achieved at the same age and the same amount of fights as Hatton before you pass judgement. Thats still what 20 more Pro fights for Katsidis bfore you can say weather Katsidis is better or not.

If were talking today Hatton is better but and would probably win but to count Katsidis out do at your own peril but if say Katsidis was to fight Hatton in 2 years when i feel Katsidis will be at his peak i would pick Katsidis.

Boxing is all about timing. YES.

[mattress]

If graham earl can give kats alot of trouble why wouldn't hatton just tear straight through him.


errrr, because Jizm said that Katsidas is 'too powerful and too busy' for Hatton.

Actually, don't take any notice of him. He's full of shit, ask anyone.

[RealIzm]

what fighter would that be:huhAhhh Katsidas, not sure if you've seen him before but he throws punches on the inside instead of tying up after 1 or 2 punches this is because Katsidas isnt a wrestler masquerading as a boxer which is what Hatton is

Now that I've brought you up to speed you can eat a hit of acid and zone out for 12 hours maaaannnnnnn:rasta

[mattress]

Boppa, I ain't arguing with your analysis, it has some good points. I was just advising against retorts like 'Fatton' because it does you no good and can group you with some serious fuckwits here....and I know you don't belong there.

[rydersonthestorm]

So fighting a 40 year Phillips, a 38 Year old Pendleton, a 36 Year old Maussa, a 35 year old Oliviera, a 36 Year old Tszyu, a 37 year old Pep, a 34 year old Castillo. Now you cant say i think he wasnt over protected and hasnt got the same size nuts Katsidis has.

My comments are the truth. You expect me to say Hatton is some sort of higher power that is on the verge of greatness when its more likely that he has the most protected record known to man kind.

Waits 2 years to fight PBF, has fought 4 times outside the UK in 44 Pro fights.
in 44 Pro fights has had 7 Title fights.
Katsidis has had 3 Title fights in just 24 bouts aswell as 3 outside Australia already.

I dont see what your trying to get at.
Should i get started about who Hatton fought in his 24th Pro fight.

Yep you guessed it Jason Rowland for the WBU title of the World.

So we will see how or what Katsidis has achieved at the same age and the same amount of fights as Hatton before you pass judgement. Thats still what 20 more Pro fights for Katsidis bfore you can say weather Katsidis is better or not.

If were talking today Hatton is better but and would probably win but to count Katsidis out do at your own peril but if say Katsidis was to fight Hatton in 2 years when i feel Katsidis will be at his peak i would pick Katsidis.

Boxing is all about timing. YES.
he would be fighitn amir kahn in two years time and taking a beating of him rather than hatton.

[rydersonthestorm]

Ahhh Katsidas, not sure if you've seen him before but he throws punches on the inside instead of tying up after 1 or 2 punches this is because Katsidas isnt a wrestler masquerading as a boxer which is what Hatton is

Now that I've brought you up to speed you can eat a hit of acid and zone out for 12 hours maaaannnnnnn:rasta
having trouble reading you said hatton was almost put out by an out of work featherweight, which fighter is that :huh

[RealIzm]

No you picked Kat because you hate on Hatton, Calzaghe and any British fighter there is.

I like Kat, he is exciting and has the right attitude. But he has beaten nobody of any note at all.
Sorry but when the best someone can offer is Ranee Ganoy and then try and hype up a guy who has a 24-10 record and who has been KOd 5 times by either nobodies or decent fighters with no pop like Rabah it is a farce.

I am now told that fights from 2002, 2003 and 2004 don't mean anything, fucking Ranee Ganoy is a "machine".:lol: :lol:
Because he has one excellent win over Robbie Peden, and whilst that win deserves respect, Peden had been out for 2 years, so time will tell if he actually has anything close to what he had in his prime.

Kat went life and death with a shot Graham Earl was European level at his best. Everyone in Britain knew Earl was shot and expected him to get blasted out and he nearly did, but he sucked up the shots and then nearly stopped Kat. He then ate clean bombs for the next 3 rounds and fired back, actually getting the better in a few exchanges and was right in the fight when his corner pulled him out.

This is a guy who was Euro level at his peak, who was over the hill and who was destroyed inside 60 seconds in his next bout, and people here are trying to tell us that Kat ruined him.:roll:

So Kat bangs out against average lightweights and has good power which dropped and hurt Casamayor. Suddenly Casamayor has never been dropped, even though he has been floored by 4 fighters before Kat and was down in his last bout, and is past it.

Styles do make fights and Kat has a punchers chance and that is it. Even then Hatton has been most hurt by fast, accurate shots he has not seen coming and not telegraphed bombs. I don't give Kat much chance at all, someone saying they do is fine.

Someone saying he would kill Hatton, when Kat has stepped up in class once and been stopped and does not have a single quality name on his record is a total joke.No Strike I don't hate on any British fighters just the ones with little to no skill but with all the hype in the world
David Haye is one of my favorite fighters, so put that in your pipe and smoke it:rasta
You don't really counter any of the points I've made about Hattons poor ring intelligence, or skill level you simply dance around it....sort of like how Mayweather was dancing around Hattons fallen body after a thorough ownage.....

[RealIzm]

having trouble reading you said hatton was almost put out by an out of work featherweight, which fighter is that :huhLazcano who was "out of work" for 15 months before coming back to give Hatton all he could handle

[mattress]

You don't really counter any of the points I've made about Hattons poor ring intelligence, or skill level

And Kats has both in abundance:patsch

[Beeston Brawler]

I think Hatton has fought more than four times out of the UK in his career.

I can think of at least six occasions!

[rydersonthestorm]

Lazcano who was "out of work" for 15 months before coming back to give Hatton all he could handle
not a featherweight though:patsch

[BoppaZoo]

he would be fighitn amir kahn in two years time and taking a beating of him rather than hatton.Yep although with Khans chin he probably wont ever get to elite. Although Hearns had a bad chin bad Hearns is Hearns and well Khan is well Khan.

Look im not saying he will or wont but if you think Khan will be able to bang with the future standouts like say Juan Diaz,Anthony Peterson,Michael Katsidis,Joan Guzman,Edwin Valero,Yuri Romanov.

All those guys have have hurt some guys with solid chins and i feel if Khan gets caught just once by any of those guys it will be good night.

[rydersonthestorm]

Yep although with Khans chin he probably wont ever get to elite. Although Hearns had a bad chin bad Hearns is Hearns and well Khan is well Khan.

Look im not saying he will or wont but if you think Khan will be able to bang with the future standouts like say Juan Diaz,Anthony Peterson,Michael Katsidis,Joan Guzman,Edwin Valero,Yuri Romanov.

All those guys have have hurt some guys with solid chins and i feel if Khan gets caught just once by any of those guys it will be good night.
i don't see how you can list kats with those guys he hasn't done anything of real note and is a level below them, sorry you could rank him iwth romanov maybe.

[BoppaZoo]

I think Hatton has fought more than four times out of the UK in his career.

I can think of at least six occasions!Still wow. Look i know he would be stupid to pass up on all that money he makes at Manchester.

But to say Kat doesnt stand a chance in this Power Brawl is just not true. Guys like Hatton,Katsidis etc with Power stand a chance to end it with just one punch in every fight they enter.

[Strike]

Boppa - Hatton was overprotected, but please do not start using 36 year old Tsyzu as an example of being protected and fed past it fighters. Tsyzu had just DESTROYED the 140 World Number 2. Everyone had Tsyzu as THE MAN at 140 but people asked if he was still in shape going into the fight against the second man in the division in Mitchell.

And Kostya destroyed Mitchell with far more ease and coolness than he had in 2001.

99% of pundits, boxers and fans picked Tsyzu to kill Hatton. You sure as fuck were not on here saying he is 36, obliterating Mitchell means nothing, Hatton is being fed a finished fighter.
And if you go back and watch the first 6-7 rounds Kostya fought no slower, no more open, no different than he has ever fought. He was always quite flat footed, liked to fight at his own pace, but was wonderfully accurate, composed and had deadly power.

The one time he lost he was dragged deep by Phillips. He was not caught with a bomb, he was dragged out of his zone, made to fight at a pace he did not like and caught time and again....he was exhausted when Phillips stopped him.

He lost to Hatton in exactly the same way, the only reason nobody gave Hatton a chance was because Hatton gets caught and nobody thought he could take the power. But he did.

So whilst Hattons resume deserves criticism, Tsyzu being rewritten by revisionists as an old man is pathetic. Some fighters are shot at 32, others are at their peak at 36. Tsyzu was not at his peak, but he was not shot and the win was an incredible achievement that nobody else at 140 at the time could have managed.

[Ubersteve]

Katsidis' chin doesn't look any better than Khan's going off evidence so far, anyway.

[RealIzm]

And Kats has both in abundance:patschWow I cant remember saying that mattress....style wise Katsidas IS the better puncher....mainly because wrestling takes time away from boxing and Hatton spends close to half the fight in a clinch:deal I've timed it out

Aside from this when Hatton isnt throwing punches or clinching he's very open...Katsidas isn't open really at all, hands up with good head and body movement. Sure Casamayor caught him but he's a slick as they come and a southpaw to boot..
Again my resoning for picking Katsidas is I feel he is more of a complete puncher(defense, workrate, and power) their power is very comparable however defense and workrate go to Katsidas in my opinion and is the main reason for my pick

[BoppaZoo]

i don't see how you can list kats with those guys he hasn't done anything of real note and is a level below them, sorry you could rank him iwth romanov maybe.
I can think of One real important thing. The fact that not many at all have even knocked Casamayor down in his career. let alone out of the ring and finished it. And you can make a full blooded case that the fight should have been stopped there for Kat as Casamayor took more than 10 seconds to get in the ring.

Then you can make a case for poor Willie Limond that got the longest 9 count ever seen aswell.

And the fact that No One here takes into account that Amonsot Career is over and will never box again yet that means nothing.

I mean Khan is taken the ****** way of fighters with NO KO power yet here is Katsidis fighting and willing to fight the best yet.

Khan already far better.
You UK fans are unreal. i admit Khan might be good but really he has to compete with Juan Diaz for the rest of his career.

Cant see Khan going anywhere really sorry. Yet i can see Katsidis making huge money as like Gatti did with entertaining fights and his never say die attitude.

[RealIzm]

Boppa - Hatton was overprotected, but please do not start using 36 year old Tsyzu as an example of being protected and fed past it fighters. Tsyzu had just DESTROYED the 140 World Number 2. Everyone had Tsyzu as THE MAN at 140 but people asked if he was still in shape going into the fight against the second man in the division in Mitchell.

And Kostya destroyed Mitchell with far more ease and coolness than he had in 2001.

99% of pundits, boxers and fans picked Tsyzu to kill Hatton. You sure as fuck were not on here saying he is 36, obliterating Mitchell means nothing, Hatton is being fed a finished fighter.
And if you go back and watch the first 6-7 rounds Kostya fought no slower, no more open, no different than he has ever fought. He was always quite flat footed, liked to fight at his own pace, but was wonderfully accurate, composed and had deadly power.

The one time he lost he was dragged deep by Phillips. He was not caught with a bomb, he was dragged out of his zone, made to fight at a pace he did not like and caught time and again....he was exhausted when Phillips stopped him.

He lost to Hatton in exactly the same way, the only reason nobody gave Hatton a chance was because Hatton gets caught and nobody thought he could take the power. But he did.

So whilst Hattons resume deserves criticism, Tsyzu being rewritten by revisionists as an old man is pathetic. Some fighters are shot at 32, others are at their peak at 36. Tsyzu was not at his peak, but he was not shot and the win was an incredible achievement that nobody else at 140 at the time could have managed.Gee don't think the intentional low blow had any effect on Tszyu quiting?....very interesting:huh

[LeedsLad]

Katsidis is way overrated because of his excitement level. Hatton isn't my favourite fighter, but at least hes an borderline elite fighter, Hatton easily stops Katsidis.

[rydersonthestorm]

I can think of One real important thing. The fact that not many at all have even knocked Casamayor down in his career. let alone out of the ring and finished it. And you can make a full blooded case that the fight should have been stopped there for Kat as Casamayor took more than 10 seconds to get in the ring.

Then you can make a case for poor Willie Limond that got the longest 9 count ever seen aswell.

And the fact that No One here takes into account that Amonsot Career is over and will never box again yet that means nothing.

I mean Khan is taken the ****** way of fighters with NO KO power yet here is Katsidis fighting and willing to fight the best yet.

Khan already far better.
You UK fans are unreal. i admit Khan might be good but really he has to compete with Juan Diaz for the rest of his career.

Cant see Khan going anywhere really sorry. Yet i can see Katsidis making huge money as like Gatti did with entertaining fights and his never say die attitude.
fucking hell some of you are so stupid or bias it's untrue, i didn't say kahn was better i said hkats shouldb't be listed with fighters that have done alot more than him and are seen as more talented.

[rydersonthestorm]

Gee don't think the intentional low blow had any effect on Tszyu quiting?....very interesting:huh
more bullshit, what about tszyu numerous intentional low blows forget them quick

[RealIzm]

Katsidis is way overrated because of his excitement level. Hatton isn't my favourite fighter, but at least hes an borderline elite fighter, Hatton easily stops Katsidis.How?:huh
How does Hatton win? Lucky punch out of a clinch? A homerun?
Has it occured to you that people want to see Katsidas fight because he's active and he's there to fucking kill you:fire People latch on to Hatton because he's "just one of the mates"....give me a fucking break and go watch WWE

[Strike]

Yep although with Khans chin he probably wont ever get to elite. Although Hearns had a bad chin bad Hearns is Hearns and well Khan is well Khan.

Look im not saying he will or wont but if you think Khan will be able to bang with the future standouts like say Juan Diaz,Anthony Peterson,Michael Katsidis,Joan Guzman,Edwin Valero,Yuri Romanov.

All those guys have have hurt some guys with solid chins and i feel if Khan gets caught just once by any of those guys it will be good night.

I agree that Khan could be stopped by any of those guys. But actually Khan did a much better job with Earl than Kat managed and who are the solid chins that Kat has dented? Presumably Casamayor, as he is the only one I can think of who remotely deserves to be called a solid chin who Kat has floored.

And yet he was also dropped in his fight previous to Kat against a guy who is not a banger and has been down to several fighters in his career. And lets be honest Casamayor is far more past his best than Tsyzu was when Hatton fought him. He laboured to a SD win over Santa Cruz in his only fight of 2007 and is about to turn 37. He has not looked close to his best for a long time....I am going back to before 2004.

And you are way off about Guzman. He was a puncher at Super Bantam and I cannot think of a fighter who has failed to carry his power up more than Juan Guzman.
I remember watching is debut at Featherweight against Joe Morales and could not believe how many times Guzman landed completely flush, ripping combos onto the chin and Morales never really looked like being stopped.

Since then he has not stopped a single opponent at Featherweight or Super feather....but you think if he moves up in weight again he should be considered a puncher?:huh

[Strike]

Gee don't think the intentional low blow had any effect on Tszyu quiting?....very interesting:huh

Well not according to Tsyzu or his team no. But I am sure you know Kostya better than he does.:lol: :lol:

[Ubersteve]

Plus Khan isn't going to bang with them anyway, unless he has a stroke or something.

[RealIzm]

Well not according to Tsyzu or his team no. But I am sure you know Kostya better than he does.:lol: :lol:Yea he's my neighbor asshole

[Drexl]

Hatton would win this IF the fight ever happened. But it won't because I fully expect Katsidis to be exposed before he gets the chance.


Look, lets be real.
- I'm an Australian citizen.
- I travelled around 3000 km (1700 miles) to watch Tszyu vs Leija.
- I'm a Manchester United fan.


I have NO reason to be a Hattonhugger. In fact I have a few reasons to hate him. But unlike a few on this forum, I try not to let my bias (and let's face it, we're ALL biased) cloud my judgement.

Hatton is just better than Katsidis in pretty much every department. Not light years better, but better.

[BoppaZoo]

Boppa - Hatton was overprotected, but please do not start using 36 year old Tsyzu as an example of being protected and fed past it fighters. Tsyzu had just DESTROYED the 140 World Number 2. Everyone had Tsyzu as THE MAN at 140 but people asked if he was still in shape going into the fight against the second man in the division in Mitchell.

And Kostya destroyed Mitchell with far more ease and coolness than he had in 2001.

99% of pundits, boxers and fans picked Tsyzu to kill Hatton. You sure as fuck were not on here saying he is 36, obliterating Mitchell means nothing, Hatton is being fed a finished fighter.
And if you go back and watch the first 6-7 rounds Kostya fought no slower, no more open, no different than he has ever fought. He was always quite flat footed, liked to fight at his own pace, but was wonderfully accurate, composed and had deadly power.

The one time he lost he was dragged deep by Phillips. He was not caught with a bomb, he was dragged out of his zone, made to fight at a pace he did not like and caught time and again....he was exhausted when Phillips stopped him.

He lost to Hatton in exactly the same way, the only reason nobody gave Hatton a chance was because Hatton gets caught and nobody thought he could take the power. But he did.

So whilst Hattons resume deserves criticism, Tsyzu being rewritten by revisionists as an old man is pathetic. Some fighters are shot at 32, others are at their peak at 36. Tsyzu was not at his peak, but he was not shot and the win was an incredible achievement that nobody else at 140 at the time could have managed.
It only makes me think that Yes Hatton was great on the night and needed to be. But i learnt that night that all the trouble we were reading behind the scenes that Tszyu was having trouble making weight.
The fact he fought at 2am in the morning in the UK mind you at the age of 36.
The fact the Ref let hatton foul and foul and foul all night then when Tszyu gets in a clean body punch and Hatton goes down , NO Knockdown, And dont give me this bullshit it was low. Because most of the respected boxing writers world wide said that the ref was bad that night.
Yes Tszyu lost and im not fussed but if you were to turn that around and put the 36 year old Hatton against a Prime Tszyu in Australia with an Aussie ref the fight wouldnt have lasted 3 rounds. Just like so many others.

So if you really stack it up with all that Tszyu had to go up against id like to see the roles reversed.

My point is though the fighters in the UK these days because of money hungry whores like ****** are getting to pampered and are to protected which i hate.
Thats what i love about Aussie fighters they have the opinion of every other Aussie.
Have gloves will fight anywhere and anyone at anytime.

Cant stand ****** he is bad for the sport.
And it wasnt until Hatton got away from ****** that he was and could become the fighter that we all see today.

[RealIzm]

Hatton would win this IF the fight ever happened. But it won't because I fully expect Katsidis to be exposed before he gets the chance.


Look, lets be real.
- I'm an Australian citizen.
- I travelled around 3000 km (1700 miles) to watch Tszyu vs Leija.
- I'm a Manchester United fan.


I have NO reason to be a Hattonhugger. In fact I have a few reasons to hate him. But unlike a few on this forum, I try not to let my bias (and let's face it, we're ALL biased) cloud my judgement.

Hatton is just better than Katsidis in pretty much every department. Not light years better, but better.Wow you said it:good I'm convinced
Hatton KO1 Katsidas:happy

Again not "how" does he beat him its "he's just more better"

[mattress]

Thats what i love about Aussie fighters they have the opinion of every other Aussie.
Have gloves will fight anywhere and anyone at anytime.

Yep, gotta agree, apart from Mundine.

[RealIzm]

Yep, gotta agree, apart from Mundine.:lol:

[rydersonthestorm]

Yep, gotta agree, apart from Mundine.
why has kats fought bums, other than casamayor he has fought oretty poor fighters so far in his 7 years boxing career.

[BoppaZoo]

i just want to say one more time that i believe Hatton is better right now. I believe that hell he is older and had 20 more Pro fights.

But i believe that Kat has a chance as does every fighter.
The fact i picked the Aussie doesnt make me a Nuthugger i just think sometimes you truely need to stand up for what you believe in and that is.

The Aussie. Every Aussie loves a good Underdog.

[mattress]

:lol:

C'mon, does anyone like him???

[Drexl]

Wow you said it:good I'm convinced
Hatton KO1 Katsidas:happy

Again not "how" does he beat him its "he's just more better"

Grow up, junior.

Hatton would NOT KO1 Katsidis. Show me where I said he would.

It would be a great fight. There would probably be a lot of action and maybe some blood. But Hatton would probably win.

I'm not going to list everything he does better because frankly it has already been said a number of times and you shouldn't be so retarded that you need me to say it again.

Besides, I've seen your pathetic whiny reactions to logical arguements, so I'm not interested in debating the point with you.

I'm not interested in a battle of wits with and unarmed child. :yep

[BoppaZoo]

Yep, gotta agree, apart from Mundine.Yeah Mundine. What can i say. Got talent just hasnt got good advice or Nuts like your typical Aussie.

:good

[mattress]

Good cases from both side guys but Hatton wins by UD - 127 to 35 :D

[Strike]

And you can make a full blooded case that the fight should have been stopped there for Kat as Casamayor took more than 10 seconds to get in the ring.



No you can't mate. Fighters are allowed 20 seconds to get up and back into the ring if they have been knocked out of the ropes.

[196osh]

This thread is baffling....

:-(

[Strike]

ICant stand ****** he is bad for the sport.


You would struggle to find a single British fight fan who would disagree with you there mate. The guy is a total cunt.

[Drexl]

i just want to say one more time that i believe Hatton is better right now. I believe that hell he is older and had 20 more Pro fights.

But i believe that Kat has a chance as does every fighter.
The fact i picked the Aussie doesnt make me a Nuthugger i just think sometimes you truely need to stand up for what you believe in and that is.

The Aussie. Every Aussie loves a good Underdog.


In sporting terms, Aussies in general love flat-track bullies. That's why the cricket team is so popular when they steamroll everyone, but they are slammed when they lose.

They only support the underdog when an Australian or Australian team isn't involved. To be fair, that's not an Australian trait. Pretty much everyone in the world supports an underdog when they have no other connection with either side.

[BoppaZoo]

why has kats fought bums, other than casamayor he has fought oretty poor fighters so far in his 7 years boxing career.You have to remember though he was jibbed out of two big fights though.

One with Guzman who after breaking his hand never rescheduled the fight even though Kat wanted him to.
And Juan Diaz who was supposed to be fighting Kat as his mandatory but choose Campbell instead but after Campbell he was going to fight Kat. But as we Know both Kat and Juan Diaz lost.

He has fought 3 ranked fighters by WBO in Ranee Ganoy,Graham Earl,Czar Amonsot at the time with 2 KO's and a war which ended Czars career and of course he fought the #1 Ring Belt holder at 135 and was winning the fight at the time and then lost.

Thats been his opponents so far but yeah if it had of panned out different he could have fought some really great fight already if the Guzman then Diaz fight had taken place.

But if you watched the Katsidis vs Earl fight it was a nomination for fight of the year. aswell as the Amonsot fight.
And the Casamayor fight was the best fight ive seen in ages that he has fought in.
And its all to do with because Katsidis fights like he does he gives you great Value for Money.

[rydersonthestorm]

You have to remember though he was jibbed out of two big fights though.

One with Guzman who after breaking his hand never rescheduled the fight even though Kat wanted him to.
And Juan Diaz who was supposed to be fighting Kat as his mandatory but choose Campbell instead but after Campbell he was going to fight Kat. But as we Know both Kat and Juan Diaz lost.

He has fought 3 ranked fighters by WBO in Ranee Ganoy,Graham Earl,Czar Amonsot at the time with 2 KO's and a war which ended Czars career and of course he fought the #1 Ring Belt holder at 135 and was winning the fight at the time and then lost.

Thats been his opponents so far but yeah if it had of panned out different he could have fought some really great fight already if the Guzman then Diaz fight had taken place.

But if you watched the Katsidis vs Earl fight it was a nomination for fight of the year. aswell as the Amonsot fight.
And the Casamayor fight was the best fight ive seen in ages that he has fought in.
And its all to do with because Katsidis fights like he does he gives you great Value for Money.
look i like kats i think he is an exiting fighter but alot of people on this thread picking kats to win are saying hatton fought shit fighters or kahn at the age of 21 is shit.
Look at hatton he is only two years older than kats and beat tyzu when he was around kats age now, then has gone on to face fighters on a far higher level than the ones kats has faced so far. I don't see how people can be giving hatton so much shit, he isn't one of may favourtie fighters but to say a guy from a lower wieght class who asn't beaten anyone of note would ko hatton is insane.

[BoppaZoo]

Look im going to end this with this opinion guys.

My Head says Hatton BY TKO 10 in a war.

My Heart says Katsidis BY TKO 10 in a war.

Can some one here please get this fight to happen.

Any Huge Millionaires on the board that can help us fans out.

i tell you right now if i was id go
make it a trilogy

Call it the Ashes of Boxing
First Fight in Manchester Offer Hatton $15 Million US Katsidis $6 Million
Second Fight Melbourne Offer Katsidis $8 million Hatton $12 mill
3rd fight Flip of the coin

So i say again can any milliionaires help us fans out.

[Strike]

No you can't mate. Fighters are allowed 20 seconds to get up and back into the ring if they have been knocked out of the ropes.

:deal

[04eta]

The Hamed vs Liendo fight may well have been at Super Bantam actually...in fact now you mention it I am almost certain it was. Liendo looked like a Super Bantam or Feather and he was out cold. Unconcious for over a minute, and recieving treatment in the ring for several minutes after.

At two or (as you point out) probably three weight divisions up he takes everything Kat is throwing for 7 rounds and is not stopped.
I know 1 fight is not a way to judge someone and direct comparisons are not totally reliable like that, but when you add in Earl taking flush bombs from Kat and coming back and the fact that kat has gone the distance with a guy who was stopped by Rabah and St Clair...

I think his power is overhyped. It is clearly good power, but his opponents have by and large been very weak and he has failed to put away guys who have been destroyed by smaller men and by other prospects in his weight class.

Did you see the Liendo fight? Katsidis was actually BOXING in this fight. It was in front of his home crowd, he wanted to get some rounds in. If Liendo didn't retire Katsidis would have steped it up and finished him when he wanted.

[Strike]

Did you see the Liendo fight? Katsidis was actually BOXING in this fight. It was in front of his home crowd, he wanted to get some rounds in. If Liendo didn't retire Katsidis would have steped it up and finished him when he wanted.

It was fucking Sergio Liendo. The guy is a super bantam and way past his best too. I have not seen the fight, but I have seen Katsidis fight enough times to know that he never just jabs and refrains from throwing power shots.
He only knows one way to fight and please...he has fought in his home town countless times and fought exactly as always....all out attack.

Are you telling me that even though he has stopped several fighters in his home town earlier, he decided not to throw power punchers and became a slick boxer who didn't sit on his shots for one night only?

[04eta]

It was fucking Sergio Liendo. The guy is a super bantam and way past his best too. I have not seen the fight, but I have seen Katsidis fight enough times to know that he never just jabs and refrains from throwing power shots.
He only knows one way to fight and please...he has fought in his home town countless times and fought exactly as always....all out attack.

Are you telling me that even though he has stopped several fighters in his home town earlier, he decided not to throw power punchers and became a slick boxer who didn't sit on his shots for one night only?

I'm telling you, you can't make statements about a fight you haven't seen. I have seen almost every one of his fights and TWICE i have seen him box not brawl, against Liendo and sorkitti. He would have stepped up and knocked both out if they hadn't retired.

[MSTR]

It was fucking Sergio Liendo. The guy is a super bantam and way past his best too. I have not seen the fight, but I have seen Katsidis fight enough times to know that he never just jabs and refrains from throwing power shots.
He only knows one way to fight and please...he has fought in his home town countless times and fought exactly as always....all out attack.

Are you telling me that even though he has stopped several fighters in his home town earlier, he decided not to throw power punchers and became a slick boxer who didn't sit on his shots for one night only?

You can't argue with someone when your going off boxrec mate... Sometimes its misleading. Even some of the guys that Kat knocked out, are better fighters then their records suggest. Some of those pinoy guys had losses very early in their careers, fighting at weight classes that were not suited to them. Katsidis has good punching power, if you don't think so watch some of his fights. You can see by the way he throws his punches. Some of the points you have mentioned here are valid, and i agree with, but others are just biased. Like saying that Earl was "over the hill" when Katsidis beat him. Earl was 28 years old FFS, how ridiculous. Katisids ruined him basically, as Earl took a thorough beating in that fight. A guy who had never been knocked out before. Regardless, I agree that Hatton would be favoured to win, but i think you guys are being overly patriotic if you don't think Katsidis could potentially KO Hatton if he gets careless. Katsidis is a good puncher, and Hatton has an average chin. Anything is possible, especially in a war. My money is on Hatton, but it isn't as clear cut as some of you are making out. Styles make fights, and that is definitely the case in this one. If it were a slick boxer on the level of Hatton, i would say he destroys Katsidis... But Hatton's style plays right into his hands.

[RafaelGonzal]

No, but what a gory fucking mess that would be, It however is a more exciting proposition than any other stiff that Ricky will actually fight.

[RealIzm]

You can't argue with someone when your going off boxrec mate... Sometimes its misleading. Even some of the guys that Kat knocked out, are better fighters then their records suggest. Some of those pinoy guys had losses very early in their careers, fighting at weight classes that were not suited to them. Katsidis has good punching power, if you don't think so watch some of his fights. You can see by the way he throws his punches. Some of the points you have mentioned here are valid, and i agree with, but others are just biased. Like saying that Earl was "over the hill" when Katsidis beat him. Earl was 28 years old FFS, how ridiculous. Katisids ruined him basically, as Earl took a thorough beating in that fight. A guy who had never been knocked out before. Regardless, I agree that Hatton would be favoured to win, but i think you guys are being overly patriotic if you don't think Katsidis could potentially KO Hatton if he gets careless. Katsidis is a good puncher, and Hatton has an average chin. Anything is possible, especially in a war. My money is on Hatton, but it isn't as clear cut as some of you are making out. Styles make fights, and that is definitely the case in this one. If it were a slick boxer on the level of Hatton, i would say he destroys Katsidis... But Hatton's style plays right into his hands.My thoughts exactly MSTR
I see this is still going strong
I started this thread as mainly a comparison of styles would illustrate how Katsidas is a true puncher and not a wrestler....I've stated many times on here that I've tried to be a fan of Hatton and I was going into the fight with Collazo, when that fight was over I had it 115-113 for Collazo..And dammit Colllazo earned that victory(in the process wrote the book on how to beat Hatton),at that point I was no longer a Hatton fan....How can I support a fighter that clinches after 2 punches and lets face it thats his WHOLE game.....now is that boxing? It's bullshit, dirty fighting.....Hatton and John Ruiz are in a league of their own...Hatton is more of a likeable guy because he gets fucked up and eats fatty foods, well these are reasons kids latch on to their favorite wrestler in WWE:deal

[RealIzm]

My thoughts exactly MSTR
I see this is still going strong
I started this thread as mainly a comparison of styles would illustrate how Katsidas is a true puncher and not a wrestler....I've stated many times on here that I've tried to be a fan of Hatton and I was going into the fight with Collazo, when that fight was over I had it 115-113 for Collazo..And dammit Colllazo earned that victory(in the process wrote the book on how to beat Hatton),at that point I was no longer a Hatton fan....How can I support a fighter that clinches after 2 punches and lets face it thats his WHOLE game.....now is that boxing? It's bullshit, dirty fighting.....Hatton and John Ruiz are in a league of their own...Hatton is more of a likeable guy because he gets fucked up and eats fatty foods, well these are reasons kids latch on to their favorite wrestler in WWE:deal:good

[CJLightweight]

tell me who did katsidis beat in his career to get respect around here? Earl? If any, valero gets more respect because he has mosquera on his resume, katsidis on the other hand you know.

[Executioner]

hatton would beat the shit out of katsidis.

[joe the great]

He couldn't kill Casamayor.