The Hatton backlash is not the real issue

[Cruiser1]

People are talking about how overrated he is and how he only fights subpar opposition but they are overlooking the real issue and that is the fact that he has probably done irreparable damage to his body with his lifestyle. Yes, it's been talked about but it gets drowned out among all the "Hatton is overrated" or "I'm sick of Hatton" threads.

Hatton's a good guy and certainly not worth the backlash he's been getting. The real problem is the fact that he can be so undisciplined between fights. That's part of being a professional and Hatton clearly hasn't gotten the memo there. His performances are almost assuredly the manifestation of his out of the ring behaviors so why not acknowledge the root of the problem rather than just jump on him for his fights? It's one thing for a 9-5 worker who gets wasted every night to come into work the next morning and type in his cubicle but it's a completely different story for a world-class prizefighter to drink more than necessary, get fat and then have to come back and lose the weight (over a short period of time no less)before FIGHTING 12 3-minute rounds against a guy who the rules of boxing dictate must be a live body at this accelerated point in his career. The support system around Hatton is woefully absent and it's only a matter of time before he loses a fight that he has no business losing.

[mstar]

my issue wit hatton is that his last 4fights he has faded badley in the later rounds. This was never the case early in his career and it shows to me he is sliding a little and HE KNOWS IT. its clear and i have watched over 25 fights Live on TV and i am convinced he only has 2 years MAX. His non-stop style is not correct for a aging fighter.

[Ramshall1]

My problem is not really with Hatton, he is what he is, a faded warrior who is best at 140.

My problme is with Fraud seeking a pointless rematch with him as a way of ducking the eventual Cotto-AM winner.

[scurlaruntings]

my issue wit hatton is that his last 4fights he has faded badley in the later rounds. This was never the case early in his career and it shows to me he is sliding a little and HE KNOWS IT. its clear and i have watched over 25 fights Live on TV and i am convinced he only has 2 years MAX. His non-stop style is not correct for a aging fighter.Thats what happens when the quality of your opposition goes up. You cant fight at a frenetic pace like that for 3 minutes and 12 rounds. Not when your ill-disciplined inbetween fights the way Hatton is. 2 years or not its only a matter of time before the bubble bursts.

[Cruiser1]

my issue wit hatton is that his last 4fights he has faded badley in the later rounds. This was never the case early in his career and it shows to me he is sliding a little and HE KNOWS IT. its clear and i have watched over 25 fights Live on TV and i am convinced he only has 2 years MAX. His non-stop style is not correct for a aging fighter.

Brawlers don't last over the long-haul, which makes it EXTRA important that clean living be a part of their lifestyle outside the ring. You're being generous with 2 years. He should get a semi-big fight with someone like Malignaggi where there won't be alot of punishment taken and then take on a real big name and be compensated for it win or lose. Hatton didn't look terrible last time out but he didn't look like someone who's got many big fights left in him either.

[Addie]

There is no issue.

We just have another case of so-called boxing fans being disrespectful to greater athlete's and more productive people than themselves.

hatton beat everybody he was put infront of, including Tyzu and other worthy contenders. He had the ambition to take on the best fighter in the world, he did it, he fell short, that's all. He's come back, and he's still fighting and winning. There is no issue with Ricky Hatton.

The issue is never the fighters, it's the fans.

[1lehudson]

My problem is not really with Hatton, he is what he is, a faded warrior who is best at 140.

My problme is with Fraud seeking a pointless rematch with him as a way of ducking the eventual Cotto-AM winner.No your problem is that you hate Mayweather, so you will find something wrong with everyone that he fights.

[Ramshall1]

There is no issue.

We just have another case of so-called boxing fans being disrespectful to greater athlete's and more productive people than themselves.

hatton beat everybody he was put infront of, including Tyzu and other worthy contenders. He had the ambition to take on the best fighter in the world, he did it, he fell short, that's all. He's come back, and he's still fighting and winning. There is no issue with Ricky Hatton.

The issue is never the fighters, it's the fans.

you make some good points.

what do you think of the ref giving Hatton that rest in the 10th?

[Ramshall1]

No your problem is that you hate Mayweather, so you will find something wrong with everyone that he fights.

Would you rather Fraud face Hatton a second time or the eventual winner of Cotto-AM?

[Hatesrats]

In all honesty I wouldn't mind seeing Hatton get a rematch with Floyd again..
(IF we are gurantee'd a match with the Cotto/Margo winner)
The prob is like someone said above, PBF would only be putting off the Margo/Cotto match that much further along. (Maybe waiting for them to eliminate each other?)
As time passes, it's evident that PBF fights less and less.
Floyd would be cheating his fans & legacy.

[mattress]

Would you rather Fraud face Hatton a second time or the eventual winner of Cotto-AM?

that's a no-brainer but I just cannot see FMJ v Cotto happening.......can you?

[Ramshall1]

that's a no-brainer but I just cannot see FMJ v Cotto happening.......can you?

its a no brainer with true boxing fans, but many Fraud groupies are actually happy he'll probably face Hatton instead.

I dont see Fraud getting in the ring with Cotto or Margarito. . . he wont even fight the loser.

[pipe wrenched]

Hatton got a bit OVER RATED leading into the bout with PBF, but since then his fans have been among the most humble and objective posters of any bunch on the boards. I've been very impressed with them following the Lazcano match.

[Addie]

you make some good points.

what do you think of the ref giving Hatton that rest in the 10th?

I think it should be called into question. I don't think anything Hatton did in the fight should be though, he clearly won the fight. He could have comeback and fought a Forbes level fight, but Lazcano was a live opponent. That is to his credit.

There is no issues with any fighters who are world champions and fighting reguarly. Leave Ricky Hatton alone.

[smiffy]

Leave Ricky Hatton alone.


or he'll break your ribs. rather good at that our ricky

[Addie]

or he'll break your ribs. rather good at that our ricky

I just don't see why there has to be an issue with Ricky Hatton? He just won his last fight, and nothing he did in the ring himself was deemed controversial. The referee is responsible for his own actions.

[GazOC]

Thats what happens when the quality of your opposition goes up. You cant fight at a frenetic pace like that for 3 minutes and 12 rounds. Not when your ill-disciplined inbetween fights the way Hatton is. 2 years or not its only a matter of time before the bubble bursts.

Thats hardly a bold prediction to make about a pressure fighter approaching his 30th birthday. Are you going to say "I told you so" when he gets KO'd on 18 months???

[PH|LLA]

i for one think his poor performance on Saturday is directly linked to the way he acted in between fights.

I'm not a big Hatton fan. I think his win over KT was bullshit and that he sucks at 147, and even bet against him against both Collazo and PBF. But I have seen alot of his fights and I recognize that at 140 he is a good fighter who on top of his game would give PBF alot of trouble, beat Malignaggi, and KTFO of Lazcano

[smiffy]

I just don't see why there has to be an issue with Ricky Hatton? He just won his last fight, and nothing he did in the ring himself was deemed controversial. The referee is responsible for his own actions.


if you expect me to enter into a debate about the ref your barking up the wrong tree. hatton won fair and square, fairly easily, pretty impressively, very entertainingly .

[Addie]

if you expect me to enter into a debate about the ref your barking up the wrong tree. hatton won fair and square, fairly easily, pretty impressively, very entertainingly .

It is you who is barking up the wrong tree.

[smiffy]

easily? he damn near got ko'd in the 10th. ricky won rounds clearly but it wasnt easy....


thats why i said fairly easily.

[Addie]

do agree that ricky is over rated?

Please stop with this "overrated" nonsense.

Who overrates Ricky Hatton? He is just billed to be the best Junior Welterweight in the game today, and he has proved that in the ring.

[smiffy]

do agree that ricky is over rated?


by who ?

[Ramshall1]

I think it should be called into question. I don't think anything Hatton did in the fight should be though, he clearly won the fight. He could have comeback and fought a Forbes level fight, but Lazcano was a live opponent. That is to his credit.

There is no issues with any fighters who are world champions and fighting reguarly. Leave Ricky Hatton alone.

Called into question??? Thats an understatement.

As much as Hatton complained about Cortez - and he had a right to complain. Lazcano has ten times more right to complain about that ref.:deal

[Addie]

Called into question??? Thats an understatement.

As much as Hatton complained about Cortez - and he had a right to complain. Lazcano has ten times more right to complain about that ref.:deal

Okay but I thought we were talking about Ricky Hatton not some referee?

[Ramshall1]

Okay but I thought we were talking about Ricky Hatton not some referee?

when talkin bout Hatton, its hard not to talk about his most recent fight, when talking bout his most recent fight its impossible not to mention that dogshiit the hometown ref pulled.

I actually am a fan of Hatton, but dogshiit is dogshiit.

I see Hatton as a great 140 lbr who happens to lose a lot when he moves up one division. And now he's showing his years of balooning between fights.

[Betty Swollocks]

anyone remember the Vilches fight? He looked really crap in that one. That's around when people claim he was in his prime. Gimme a break. That's a pathetic excuse. Hatton is not past him best, it's just that his best was never anything special to begin with. He's been grossly overrated. He's a world class boxer in the sense that he fights at the top of his division, but a p4p fighter....NO WAY.

[PH|LLA]

I think the best Hatton performance i've seen was against Oliveira.

[Betty Swollocks]

I think the best Hatton performance i've seen was against Oliveira.

again it comes down to the level of the opponent. Oliveira was once a decent figther but was picked for that fight as he was totally shot and a target for Hatton to beat on for a few rounds.

to those who were surprised Hatton didn't stop Lazcano....when has Hatton even shown KO punch power? Apart from Castillo, who just wanted a way out, he's only stopped guys on accumulation

[JonOli]

to those who were surprised Hatton didn't stop Lazcano....when has Hatton even shown KO punch power? Apart from Castillo, who just wanted a way out, he's only stopped guys on accumulation

He has 15 genuine Knockouts and 14 TKO's. He's not the hardest puncher in the world but he has a fair old punch.

[kgs83]

again it comes down to the level of the opponent. Oliveira was once a decent figther but was picked for that fight as he was totally shot and a target for Hatton to beat on for a few rounds.

to those who were surprised Hatton didn't stop Lazcano....when has Hatton even shown KO punch power? Apart from Castillo, who just wanted a way out, he's only stopped guys on accumulation

The Tszyu fight was signed before he even took on Oliveira. He could of taken an easier opponent before the that fight, as had he has lost so woulda the Tszyu fight an all.

Its too easy to say every fighter was shot, its like you know them personally and they go "hey man, i was shot."

In a nutshell Hatton is a very good fighter who has have very very well for himself and wins fans cause he is exciting. All this backlash are from haters who hate the fact that he is loved so much and then they make shit up and put words in his fans mouths "like his the greatest ever".

Not one RH fan has said that, all most say is appreciated instead of preaching a hate. Theres no need.

[Drederick Tatum]

I have never been a fan of Ricky the Holdman Hatton, but I must admit I fell for the hype leading up to the FLoyd fight, and thought he might do fairly well. U fooled me again FLoyd!!!

[1lehudson]

Would you rather Fraud face Hatton a second time or the eventual winner of Cotto-AM?I would hate to see Floyd fight Hatton....But I also said that before Floyd fought Hatton the first time. I thought that is was a huge mismatch and that Hatton would be beat up really bad...Hatton made a desent showing for himself vs Floyd he did alittle better then I thought he would.

My point with you is that it dont matter, you will find reason to bash Floyd for anything, its not about how he is fighting. He could fight the winner of Cotto Margo and if the two happen to have a tough fight then go on to lose to Mayweather I can already hear cats like you cring "Oh Floyd only fought him because the "Loser" took it out of the "Winner", why didnt Floyd fight one of them before that" Its a neverending story with Haters..As the saying goes haters with Hate

[KO Boxing]

its a no brainer with true boxing fans, but many Fraud groupies are actually happy he'll probably face Hatton instead.
Name one, please.

[Ramshall1]

I would hate to see Floyd fight Hatton....But I also said that before Floyd fought Hatton the first time. I thought that is was a huge mismatch and that Hatton would be beat up really bad...Hatton made a desent showing for himself vs Floyd he did alittle better then I thought he would.

My point with you is that it dont matter, you will find reason to bash Floyd for anything, its not about how he is fighting. He could fight the winner of Cotto Margo and if the two happen to have a tough fight then go on to lose to Mayweather I can already hear cats like you cring "Oh Floyd only fought him because the "Loser" took it out of the "Winner", why didnt Floyd fight one of them before that" Its a neverending story with Haters..As the saying goes haters with Hate

Ive said for more than a year, If Fraud even gets in the ring with Margarito (same goes for Cotto) he'll have my respect. . . .win lose or draw.

I dont only respect undefeated fighters, I respect courage. If a fighter remains undefeated in part cause he ducks real threats - then Im sorry I dont respect that. Therefore I do not respect Fraud.

[onourway]

to those who were surprised Hatton didn't stop Lazcano....when has Hatton even shown KO punch power? Apart from Castillo, who just wanted a way out, he's only stopped guys on accumulation

Maussa was a one punch KO too.

Oliveira was a one punch KO of sorts, went down with a busted up eardrum, didn't he?

[RafaelGonzal]

The jig is up the fans dont lie your boy is a windbag and his little schtik is played out. No one cares and they see this guy go from stifff to stiff with an occasional hasbeen thrown in and the fans are tired of it and hence the backlash. The #1 reason for it is the bullshit he pulled on Witter, I fucking hate Hatton just for that. Warriors or anyone worth their salt would not have stood for that and settled it with a severe ass kicking,. Hatton comes off as a punk for not fighting Witter yet going after lazcano.