Khan v Gamboa

[D-MAC]

Two of the so-called "mega-prospects"

Who wins this fight at Lightweight, right now?

Gamboa would be coming up from Superfeatherweight, so Khan should have the natural power advantage; he also has the height (5'10 to Gamboa's 5'5) and reach on his opponent.

Both are unbeaten: Khan (17-0) and Gamboa (10-0). Khan has had the most fights, but Gamboa has mixed in a better class, is the older man, and has a superior amateur pedigree. Experience is with the Cuban.

Both guys have bad defensive flaws, and both have been down. However, Gamboa's trips to the canvas have been more flash kd's; he has never been on queer-street like Khan appeared to be against Limond. Khan is the bigger one-punch threat, but Gamboa is faster, throws the combinations better, has better footwork, and also posseses unbelievable reflexes. As far as timing, accuracy and the best at measuring distance goes, I don't see a clear favourite. Work-rate/stamina would probably go to Gamboa.

So, does Khan's height, reach, natural strength and one-punch power beat Gamboa's speed, reflexes, footwork and combination-punching?

I think Gamboa takes this one on a late KO/TKO. He may have a trip or two to the canvas, but he will avoid most of Khan's bigger punches, while keeping on his toes and dancing in and out, and detonating his own big bombs(he has very decent power himself). Tiring him out, not just with his own deluge of punches, but also with Khan's own power-punch misses, Gamboa drills a frustrated Khan about round 9 or 10.

Possible secret weapons:

Gamboa - an increased concentration on the body-attack, focussing on Khan's long frame.

Khan - The straight right down the middle to take advantage of Gamboa's hands-down defense.

[Ubersteve]

Whenever I think about this I can never get past the size thing. It's a huge difference.

[LeedsLad]

I agree. Khan is a massive 135lber and Gamboa has been fighting at 130. Gamboa is the better prospect IMO but Khan would win if the fight was at Lightweight.

[SouthLondonsFinest]

Two of the so-called "mega-prospects"

Who wins this fight at Lightweight, right now?

Gamboa would be coming up from Superfeatherweight, so Khan should have the natural power advantage; he also has the height (5'10 to Gamboa's 5'5) and reach on his opponent.

Both are unbeaten: Khan (17-0) and Gamboa (10-0). Khan has had the most fights, but Gamboa has mixed in a better class, is the older man, and has a superior amateur pedigree. Experience is with the Cuban.

Both guys have bad defensive flaws, and both have been down. However, Gamboa's trips to the canvas have been more flash kd's; he has never been on queer-street like Khan appeared to be against Limond. Khan is the bigger one-punch threat, but Gamboa is faster, throws the combinations better, has better footwork, and also posseses unbelievable reflexes. As far as timing, accuracy and the best at measuring distance goes, I don't see a clear favourite. Work-rate/stamina would probably go to Gamboa.

So does Khan's height, reach, natural strength and one-punch power beat Gamboa's speed, reflexes, footwork and combination-punching?

I think Gamboa takes this one on a late KO/TKO. He may have a trip or two to the canvas, but he will avoid most of Khan's bigger punches, while keeping on his toes and dancing in and out, while detonating his own big bombs(he has very decent power himself). Tiring him out, not just with his own deluge of punches, but also with Khan's own power-punch misses, Gamboa drills a frustrated Khan about round 9 or 10.

Possible secret weapons:

Gamboa - an increased concentration on the body-attack, focussing on Khan's long frame.

Khan - The straight right down the middle to take advantage of Gamboa's hands-down defense.

gamboa faster than kid khan?

[J-Dog]

The size is a massive issue for me at LW and Khan carries some real power which may make the difference in this one, but Gamboa has been to a much better school and been tested properly.....

I keep saying this but its so hard to tell how good Khan is because of these mediocre powder punchers he's been fed.
Gamboa IS good, he IS gonna have a good career.
Thats why i havent voted on this one...

Good thread, look forward to analyzing this one when both fighters are knee deep into their careers and we know exactly who's got what....

[D-MAC]

gamboa faster than kid khan?

Oh yeah! Lightning fast.

[J-Dog]

What a kop out, let me try this thread again lol :lol:

Right now at LW....

Khan, only because i dont think Gamboa is as hard to hit as he thinks he is, with Khans power and speed at LW i think he wins, Khans chin and heart must be tested we just dont know how thats gonna hold up yet...

Khan KO / UD.

[brown bomber]

Gamboa would crucify Khan.... Frigging hell this isn't even debateable. Anyone who really believes that Khan would knock him out really needs to have a word with themselves.

[brown bomber]

Khan is the bigger one-punch threat :? No chance.... Khan has scored one - one punch stoppage in his entire career.

[maka]

gamboa tko early 1st 2nd or 3rd......if he can catch khan.....which should be no problem......i could'nt believe my eyes how quick gamboa was, mind you he did get put on the canvas as well, but that was due to his silly low guard up against a not bad banger.

[D-MAC]

:? No chance.... Khan has scored one - one punch stoppage in his entire career.

I think in the H-2-H sense (big LW v SFW) one punch landing flush from Khan has more of an effect on Gamboa than one of the Cuban's own big digs landing on Khan (headshot, bodyshot or whatever).

But hell, this is a fantasy match-up. I ain't gonna argue with you. We both go for Gamboa in any case.

[robpalmer135]

I say we leave this for a good few years, could be the biggest fight in boxing n 3 or 4 years time.

[Strike]

Gamboa would crucify Khan.... Frigging hell this isn't even debateable.

It is very debatable. Khan is much bigger than him. I think Gamboa is the better talent, the better prospect and has stepped up his game sooner. But he is much smaller and has been caught flush in at least 4 of his 9 fights. He does not even try and defend in most fights and makes Khans defence look water tight.

Does Jiminez hit faster and harder than Khan? No chance. Is Gamboa a one punch banger? No.
So whilst I would favour Gamboa because I cannot see him not landing enough to seriously trouble Khans shaky chin, it is open to debate. Gamboa has zero defence, he gets caught by journeymen and we have seen him dropped so it is not insane to suggest someone with the size and reach advantages of Khan and with Khans speed could get to him.

[brown bomber]

It is very debatable. Khan is much bigger than him. I think Gamboa is the better talent, the better prospect and has stepped up his game sooner. But he is much smaller and has been caught flush in at least 4 of his 9 fights. He does not even try and defend in most fights and makes Khans defence look water tight.

Does Jiminez hit faster and harder than Khan? No chance. Is Gamboa a one punch banger? No.
So whilst I would favour Gamboa because I cannot see him not landing enough to seriously trouble Khans shaky chin, it is open to debate. Gamboa has zero defence, he gets caught by journeymen and we have seen him dropped so it is not insane to suggest someone with the size and reach advantages of Khan and with Khans speed could get to him. Ok Strike we'll disagree on this one. Gamboa is a unique talent who has the talent to be a genuine super star of Shane Mosley stature. Khan for me, remains a talented but ultimately flawed fighter who has made little improvement from his olympic performances... I could be wrong but for me at the end of Gamboas career we'll have a multi weight, genuine world champion... at the end of Khans we'll be left with a could of, should of, would of.

[robpalmer135]

Big, Gamboa need to get a shit hot trainer pronto, otherwise he is going nowhere.

He is luckty Super Feather is a weak divison, valero is the only tough fight.

[Strike]

Ok Strike we'll disagree on this one. Gamboa is a unique talent who has the talent to be a genuine super star of Shane Mosley stature. Khan for me, remains a talented but ultimately flawed fighter who has made little improvement from his olympic performances... I could be wrong but for me at the end of Gamboas career we'll have a multi weight, genuine world champion... at the end of Khans we'll be left with a could of, should of, would of.

I don't even disagree with that really. I think Gamboa is more gifted, I am just saying that in a head to head it is not madness to say Khan could win. It is not what I think would happen, but it is open to debate.

Khan is basically a boiled down Welter. Gamboa is a Super Feather. There is a big difference in size, reach and to me Khan has tightened his defence. It is not great, but he holds the guard up now, is more patient and has slightly improved his short shots.

Gamboa looks supreme going forwards but he needs to stop just catching shots with his face and look to sit down on a 5 punch combo rather than throwing an 8 or 9 punch flurry that does not do the damage he is capable of because it is thrown in a point scoring amateur mindset rather than a pro one.

[elle]

Khan v Gamboa - Battle of the over-hyped!

[kurt2006]

Khan v Gamboa - Battle of the over-hyped!

Take Gamboa out if it is battle of over hyped.

[Benjiabc]

Take Gamboa out if it is battle of over hyped.


how can you say that, gamboa is as overhyped as khan if not more IMO, i would take kahn by late tko in this one, close fight but khan is bigger and has better defence IMO gamboa is likely to get hit by one or two hard shots, not sure if he could deal with it

[kerrminator]

Gamboa would crucify Khan.... Frigging hell this isn't even debateable. Anyone who really believes that Khan would knock him out really needs to have a word with themselves.

I was thinking the exact same thing. Khan is no where near the class of Gamboa (I doubt he ever will be either and thats just Gamboa as it stands never mind when he has a few more pro bouts under his belt)

[kurt2006]

how can you say that, gamboa is as overhyped as khan if not more IMO, i would take kahn by late tko in this one, close fight but khan is bigger and has better defence IMO gamboa is likely to get hit by one or two hard shots, not sure if he could deal with it

Never seen Gamboa mentioned in any newspaper or competing on celebrity superstars.

Only one man who has been hyped and got max PR and that is chinny chin Khan.

[faisal]

Never seen Gamboa mentioned in any newspaper or competing on celebrity superstars.

Only one man who has been hyped and got max PR and that is chinny chin Khan.
gamboa only turned pro last year, he's been labeled as the next P4P kingpin according to some, and if u turn over to the general Boxing forum some people see him as a boxing god and finally in his last fight the HBO team was blowing so much sunshine up his ass it made duke mckenze and mcguigans commentary look good,if thats not over hyped that what is?

[kurt2006]

gamboa only turned pro last year, he's been labeled as the next P4P kingpin according to some, and if u turn over to the general Boxing forum some people see him as a boxing god and finally in his last fight the HBO team was blowing so much sunshine up his ass it made duke mckenze and mcguigans commentary look good,if thats not over hyped that what is?

A few kids chatting on a forum is not exactly Khan type hype is it.

I would take little notice of boxing commentators they will try and sell you anything.

[onourway]

A few kids chatting on a forum is not exactly Khan type hype is it.

I would take little notice of boxing commentators they will try and sell you anything.

If we ignore people who talk about boxing on forums and we ignore boxing commentators, then where does hype actually come from?

[KCD]

:? No chance.... Khan has scored one - one punch stoppage in his entire career.

Thats true!

Most of Khans 'ko's' have come through him buddling his opponents to the floor due to his speed.

[TommyV]

I don't think Khan uses his reach advantage effectively for the whole 12 rounds, Gamboa is too skilled, too fast and too power and gets to Khan eventually and KO's him in the mid-to-late rounds.

[kurt2006]

If we ignore people who talk about boxing on forums and we ignore boxing commentators, then where does hype actually come from?

The press, promoters and trainers. Prime example being Enzo Mac.

[Claypole]

If we ignore people who talk about boxing on forums and we ignore boxing commentators, then where does hype actually come from?ITV, The Sun newspaper, and blokes down the pub.

[KCD]

The press, promoters and trainers. Prime example being Enzo Mac.


Thats true he had me convinced he'd beat Haye.

Speaking of hype and Haye, Richard Schauffer of Golden Boy has compared Haye to Muhammad Ali:-(

Haye is good but the nuthuggery is even extending to the promoters, etc.

[kurt2006]

Thats true he had me convinced he'd beat Haye.

Speaking of hype and Haye, Richard Schauffer of Golden Boy has compared Haye to Muhammad Ali:-(


What an arse, they are a 100 miles apart and not similar in any way (apart from not being white).

[brown bomber]

Big, Gamboa need to get a shit hot trainer pronto, otherwise he is going nowhere.

He is luckty Super Feather is a weak divison, valero is the only tough fight. If knowledge is power then this statement is Barry Jones.

[brown bomber]

What an arse, they are a 100 miles apart and not similar in any way (apart from not being white). They both have two arms, two legs, weenies, eyes, mouths, noses, 10 fingers and like boxing. :good

[onourway]

The press, promoters and trainers. Prime example being Enzo Mac.

If we rule out boxing commentators on the basis they'll try and sell you anything, then press, promoters and trainers have to be ruled out for the same reason.

[kurt2006]

They both have two arms, two legs, weenies, eyes, mouths, noses, 10 fingers and like boxing. :good
:lol:

Maybe Richard Schauffer has seen Ali and Haye in the mens and they are similar sized in the gonad department.

How you know both have real arms and one does not have special 6 million dollar bionic arms ? It might explain why Haye holds his left so low (it is not the bionic arm).Also one may have bunions due to excessive pronation of his sub talar joint.

I wonder how the 6 million dollar man would have fared at boxing. I guess he could have got nutritional advice from Danny Williams and Toney to increase his weight.

[stake501]

Kindelan > Rigondeaux >> Gamboa

Gamboa would struggle aganst khan....not to say its not winnable but if I was Gamboa, 26 years old, and about to hit the big time, I would avoid khan like the plague. Gamboa started life as a flyweight ffs.

Just cause Khan is fed crap, doesnt mean he isnt good. It is the Frank ****** way. What gamboa has on khan is experience. I would love to hear what super maio thinks about this fantasy match up, bet he backs khan.

[Strike]

Never seen Gamboa mentioned in any newspaper or competing on celebrity superstars.

Only one man who has been hyped and got max PR and that is chinny chin Khan.

Let me get this right. You are comparing the hype of a British boxer who was an Olympic silver medal winner at 17 and on national TV within Britain to a Cuban boxer in Britain?:lol:

Yeah no shit Khan is more hyped in Britain. Who do you think was more hyped as an amateur in Cuba, Khan or Gamboa?
Who do you think was more hyped in the USA Lacy or Froch?

Boxing is not a top 3 UK sport, but Khan being an Olympic medal winner and a young British Muslim who is seen as being a role model is bound to get more British press hype than a Cuban.

Likewise I am sure that Cotto has had more hype from day 1 in PR than any Brit or Yank fighter at his weight class has.

[kurt2006]

Let me get this right. You are comparing the hype of a British boxer who was an Olympic silver medal winner at 17 and on national TV within Britain to a Cuban boxer in Britain?:lol:

Yeah no shit Khan is more hyped in Britain. Who do you think was more hyped as an amateur in Cuba, Khan or Gamboa?
Who do you think was more hyped in the USA Lacy or Froch?

Boxing is not a top 3 UK sport, but Khan being an Olympic medal winner and a young British Muslim who is seen as being a role model is bound to get more British press hype than a Cuban.

Likewise I am sure that Cotto has had more hype from day 1 in PR than any Brit or Yank fighter at his weight class has.

Thats why I checked a few Cuban newspapers (Cuba based and exile papers) before I posted. Nothing like doing a bit of research before you post.

So is Ironbull Tahir Khan ?

[chesh]

Gamboa would crucify Khan.... Frigging hell this isn't even debateable. Anyone who really believes that Khan would knock him out really needs to have a word with themselves.

I agree 100%. Gamboa's a different class.:good