View Full Version : Mundine is finished
CarltonBlues
05-28-2008, 10:28 PM
Watched the fight ringside and his skills have dimished. Whether it's the eye, age or both I don't know but he's not fighting Kessler because he can't win. Seriously if he fought Danny Green last night he would have lost.
Watched the fight ringside and his skills have dimished. Whether it's the eye, age or both I don't know but he's not fighting Kessler because he can't win. Seriously if he fought Danny Green last night he would have lost.
Gotta agree.
CarltonBlues
05-28-2008, 10:49 PM
I know he gets a rough deal around here but couple of years ago I reckon he would have given Kessler, Calzaghe etc a run because of his speed and slickness but he's not the same fighter.
Danny Green couldn't of landed a punch on him in a telephone box that night but since the eye injury he has been getting caught by far lesser men. His speed and stamina which were his bread and butter are also not what they were. He used to have pretty good pop also but in his last couple of outings he has looked weak and his right hand hasn't been the same since he tore the bicep.
Barge FTA
05-28-2008, 11:06 PM
I was at the fight, i had good seats and i disagree with you carlton blues. i have watched many mundine fights and his jab was as fast as ever last night. not sure why you say his skills have diminished.
CarltonBlues
05-28-2008, 11:15 PM
I was at the fight, i had good seats and i disagree with you carlton blues. i have watched many mundine fights and his jab was as fast as ever last night. not sure why you say his skills have diminished.
I've seen all his fights too, I just think he's not as good as he was based on his last few outings. Watch the Green fight and Soliman 2, then watch the Hamdan and Soliman 3 fights and his shots have lost their sting, he isn't as sharp and he's eating a lot more leather. No disrespect to Sam and Nader but Danny Green would make quick work out of them.
ajay11
05-28-2008, 11:16 PM
I know he gets a rough deal around here but couple of years ago I reckon he would have given Kessler, Calzaghe etc a run because of his speed and slickness but he's not the same fighter.
Danny Green couldn't of landed a punch on him in a telephone box that night but since the eye injury he has been getting caught by far lesser men. His speed and stamina which were his bread and butter are also not what they were. He used to have pretty good pop also but in his last couple of outings he has looked weak and his right hand hasn't been the same since he tore the bicep.
Could it have been that Soliman's punches were so weak he didn't bother to take better care?
It's very hard to evaluate any fighter against Soliman. I also believe that he's trying to do to much fancy shit like slipping and rolling the shoulders etc when he could simply use his gloves.
Remember Green was standing right in front of Mundine while Soliman fights something like this > > >:nutcase
While his eye could be causing him problems the bicep injury has healed without problem.
His stamina levels may have dropped fractionally with age but to counter that he is more paitent and calculated in his fights. Both his first fight with Soliman and his loss to Ottke were both effected due to wasting to much energy early, bouncing around the ring like Ali without reason. Last night he looked as though he could have gone another 10 rounds.
Don't get me wrong, I expected more from him last night but fights don't always go as one plans. We'll find out soon enough because if you're right he;ll be severly exposed when up in class.
IrnBruMan
05-28-2008, 11:18 PM
in rides agay :lol:
you were saying a few months ago that last night's fight would be a good way to gauge how Mundine is going, now iyou're saying his next fight will bet :roll:
I've gotta hand it you agay, there aren't many left like you, who are still eating the shit Mundine serves up to you on a daily basis :yep
ajay11
05-28-2008, 11:30 PM
in rides agay :lol:
you were saying a few months ago that last night's fight would be a good way to gauge how Mundine is going, now iyou're saying his next fight will bet :roll:
I've gotta hand it you agay, there aren't many left like you, who are still eating the shit Mundine serves up to you on a daily basis :yep
Lets get together and I'll let you spank me :hey
How the fuck do you remember what I said a few months ago when I can't remember what I said last week?
Are you that hard up that you have to bullshit to make a point? If I was to judge his progress on how he went last night I'd say there's a problem. I was disappointed with a few aspects of his game, especially his lack of agression and reluctance to throw the left jab and hook to the body.
That said I can't see how you can rate a guy who's fighting someone below his class. He done what was required without ever being tested. When he steps up to a class where he needs to be at his best to win then we'll find out if he can lift his game.
Now, is there some public toilets near your place where we can meet up? You can slap me and I'll call you daddy. :smooch
Sorry Carlton have to disagree, Mundine is far from finished
pecks
05-29-2008, 12:22 AM
Damn, Carlton went to the fight. I was kinda hoping he'd upload it, oh well, it should pop up somewhere soon by someone.
You uploading the fight Muttley? :hey
IrnBruMan
05-29-2008, 12:24 AM
Lets get together and I'll let you spank me :hey
How the fuck do you remember what I said a few months ago when I can't remember what I said last week?
Are you that hard up that you have to bullshit to make a point? If I was to judge his progress on how he went last night I'd say there's a problem. I was disappointed with a few aspects of his game, especially his lack of agression and reluctance to throw the left jab and hook to the body.
That said I can't see how you can rate a guy who's fighting someone below his class. He done what was required without ever being tested. When he steps up to a class where he needs to be at his best to win then we'll find out if he can lift his game.
Now, is there some public toilets near your place where we can meet up? You can slap me and I'll call you daddy. :smooch
Is your idea of wit constant homosexual innuendo?
You're a fucking idiot :lol:
waynesmale
05-29-2008, 12:26 AM
I dont think he is finished but clearly he is past his prime and best. If he brought that performance last night into a fight with Green or Kessler he would surly be knocked out or beaten up in a rather big way.
People will say It was Solimans movement but it wasn't just that, Because in the past few fights choc has not seemed the same and one has to be the eye problem which doesnt really seem to effect him much BUT the weight drain is i believe and if he fought a big Middleweight he would be in for a bad night.
Fight Kessler and take it from there.:bbb
JOSEY WALES
05-29-2008, 12:33 AM
Is your idea of wit constant homosexual innuendo?
You're a fucking idiot :lol: :-( ...Angie's no fucking idiot mate , he ain't done enough here to be upgrade just yet ,
I wouldnt be writing that if i were you Waynesmale cause someone from team Green might read it and believe it :yikes
Then we'll have a rematch on our hands.
Robot16
05-29-2008, 12:46 AM
Damn, Carlton went to the fight. I was kinda hoping he'd upload it, oh well, it should pop up somewhere soon by someone.
You uploading the fight Muttley? :hey
It might appear on WBVA, i have seen a few aussie fights there
I wouldnt call Mundine Finished, but he is certainly and obviously on the decline.
he brought it upon himself though....
I dont think he is finished but clearly he is past his prime and best. If he brought that performance last night into a fight with Green or Kessler he would surly be knocked out or beaten up in a rather big way.
I'd have to agree with this, he's certainly not finished, but is on the decline.
People will say It was Solimans movement but it wasn't just that, Because in the past few fights choc has not seemed the same and one has to be the eye problem which doesnt really seem to effect him much BUT the weight drain is i believe and if he fought a big Middleweight he would be in for a bad night.
He KO'd Sam last time round, he was also in control and made him look silly for most of the fight. And it's not as if Sam has improved since then.
Fight Kessler and take it from there.:bbb
Yeh, like that's ever gonna happen.
Based on Mundines last few fights, Kessler would play with him.
Rick.
TheDuke
05-29-2008, 01:19 AM
I can't see that dropping to middleweight is a good idea. I can't see it being anything but too much of a strain on his body.
Fairplay to him for all the money he's made and all the fame he's generated, but what a pity that we didn't get to see such an extraordinarily gifted athlete in more than a couple of evenly matched contests.
I wouldnt call Mundine Finished, but he is certainly and obviously on the decline.
he brought it upon himself though.......he brought mother nature upon himself?
TOUGHEN up nuthuggers Mundine is not finished :deal
Who is the next cunt he is going to beat?
CarltonBlues
05-29-2008, 01:37 AM
Maybe finished was the wrong word lol.
CarltonBlues
05-29-2008, 01:39 AM
Damn, Carlton went to the fight. I was kinda hoping he'd upload it, oh well, it should pop up somewhere soon by someone.
Yeah I wouldn't mind a copy too. Let me guess Barry Michael's scorecard 120-108???????
stiflers mum
05-29-2008, 02:13 AM
Sorry Carlton have to disagree, Mundine is far from finished
But he is on the decline. I thought His speed would enable him to pitter pat his way to a UD over Pavlik who he mentioned post fight but NO WAY will he fight Kelly.
Me and a mate went for a walk down to Vodafone at about 6 o'clock on the way to the pub. What do you know, free tickets.:lol:
Don't know if he's declined or just wasn't too worried about Soliman landing.
...he brought mother nature upon himself?
lol no.
What i meant was he brough upon himself the fact that he really hasnt got much left but hasnt reached what he wants to reach/be
(ie the fact that its too late now)
CarltonBlues
05-29-2008, 02:55 AM
lol no.
What i meant was he brough upon himself the fact that he really hasnt got much left but hasnt reached what he wants to reach/be
(ie the fact that its too late now)
You don't think he's greater than Donald Bradman?
Dantes
05-29-2008, 05:08 AM
TOUGHEN up nuthuggers Mundine is not finished :deal
Who is the next cunt he is going to beat?
Not anyone of consequence as usual.:deal I'm waiting to see if cyclops calls out Fenech after the Azumah debacle....:roll:
pecks
05-29-2008, 05:13 AM
Mundine
:smh :smh
tekeKessler = :fuckoff = Calzaghe
:|:|:|:| "he hurt his hand, he hurt his hand, there should be a rematch"= The whole of Denmark for the 6 months that follows.
Kessler = :fuckoff = Calzaghe
:|:|:|:| "he hurt his hand, he hurt his hand, there should be a rematch"= The whole of Denmark for the 6 months that follows.
Easy now :nono
pecks
05-29-2008, 05:20 AM
Easy now :nonoI dealt with you in another thread. :yep
I dealt with you in another thread. :yep
Don't be so bitter, I'm not saying all Australians are idiots bc. of one (Mundine) so calm down.
Texan Joe
05-29-2008, 05:40 AM
I reckon if Shannon Taylor wins the paba next week, Mundine will fight him to get a wba middleweight ranking, I know the whole boxing world will be up in arms but when has that stopped him? As absurd as this match up would be I would love to see that grub taylor get retired by Choc:p
Kegsy
05-29-2008, 06:50 AM
I reckon if Shannon Taylor wins the paba next week, Mundine will fight him to get a wba middleweight ranking, I know the whole boxing world will be up in arms but when has that stopped him? As absurd as this match up would be I would love to see that grub taylor get retired by Choc:p
Probably will happen, thats the sad thing.:-(
ajay11
05-29-2008, 07:06 AM
I reckon if Shannon Taylor wins the paba next week, Mundine will fight him to get a wba middleweight ranking, I know the whole boxing world will be up in arms but when has that stopped him? As absurd as this match up would be I would love to see that grub taylor get retired by Choc:p
Mundine will not fight Shannon Taylor.
ajay11
05-29-2008, 07:12 AM
:-( ...Angie's no fucking idiot mate , he ain't done enough here to be upgrade just yet ,
Since when do peasants have any say on upgrades?
Francis75
05-29-2008, 07:12 AM
Mundine will not fight Shannon Taylor.
Leopards don't change their spots.
ajay11
05-29-2008, 07:21 AM
Is your idea of wit constant homosexual innuendo?
You're a fucking idiot :lol:
I'm just concerned that such an uptight little bitch could do some permanent damage if he goes it alone.
I don't find anything humourous about you rupturing your testicles or prostate, ejaculating blood as you take a vigourous time out from your miserable life. :yikes
Have a Bex and a good lie down....
ajay11
05-29-2008, 07:22 AM
Leopards don't change their spots.
Leopards don't box either.
JOSEY WALES
05-29-2008, 07:28 AM
Since when do peasants have any say on upgrades? Peasant ? Your the one bringing up a young family on fried iguana because you publicly done their food money on the Gee Gee's ya tramp . :patsch
ajay11
05-29-2008, 07:48 AM
Peasant ? Your the one bringing up a young family on fried iguana because you publicly done their food money on the Gee Gee's ya tramp . :patsch
:lol: :lol: WE DON'T HAVE IGUANA'S IN AUSTRALIA YOU FOOL :lol: :lol:
That's what happens when you have a peasants education :patsch
:happy Josey, Josey, Josey, :happy
ashley
05-29-2008, 08:06 AM
I gave Mundine about a 6 out of 10 on that performance.....not going to beat any real top 3 fighters on that example.
He looked fit and sharp but failed to throw any combos and was very cautious.
However Sam makes people look bad and ugly and to his credit that was his game plan and he got it right.
In the end I had Mundine 116 - 112 landing the cleaner shots.
Mundines not finished but if he is going to win another world title it will need to be vacant.
Lead Right
05-29-2008, 09:13 AM
Same old crap.
Mundine looked fine against a tricky opponent. It was a good measuring stick after the injury probs, and although no KO Mundine looks sharp and dominated.
Mundine is still getting better and better, therfore haters will continue to wine and wine.
Lead Right
05-29-2008, 09:14 AM
It so funny this business about Green KOing Mundine after last night.
FACT: 1 fight so far, Mundine took the great aussie hope to school
ashley
05-29-2008, 09:20 AM
Green wont beat Mundine as Green keeps coming forward into Mundines range and Mundines speed will beat Green all day long.
With Sam he came in from all directions making life hard for Mundine and while Mundine won he looked average.
lefty
05-29-2008, 09:44 AM
Mundines performance was pretty good considering his recent opposition, it was on par with Winkys fight with Soliman. Hope Mundine v Winky happens, winner to face Pavlik.
Kegsy
05-29-2008, 10:15 AM
Mundines performance was pretty good considering his recent opposition, it was on par with Winkys fight with Soliman. Hope Mundine v Winky happens, winner to face Pavlik. Too bad Pavlik beats them both, especially Mundine easily.:yep
I think Pavlik will face Calzaghe soon anyways.
lefty
05-29-2008, 10:32 AM
Too bad Pavlik beats them both, especially Mundine easily.:yep
I think Pavlik will face Calzaghe soon anyways.
Yeah, imagine humble Pavlik taking Mundines head off, one can only dream. Maybe somehow it can happen, Pavlik would probably have to beat Calzaghe for it to be any sort of a chance i reckon.
Mundine
:smh :smh
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Pavlik Pavlik Pavlik :blabla
Kegsy
05-29-2008, 12:46 PM
Yeah, imagine humble Pavlik taking Mundines head off, one can only dream. Maybe somehow it can happen, Pavlik would probably have to beat Calzaghe for it to be any sort of a chance i reckon.
Mundine has to at least win a middleweight title to have any chance of fighting Pavlik.
Even then he isnt going to exactly be much of a draw in the US.
I guess the media can always pull out his "america deserved it" remark.:lol:
Then he would get booed worse than ever before.:yep
Robot16
05-29-2008, 01:44 PM
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IrnBruMan
05-29-2008, 08:08 PM
Mundine will not fight Shannon Taylor.
How the fuck would you know, idiot?
IrnBruMan
05-29-2008, 08:09 PM
I'm just concerned that such an uptight little bitch could do some permanent damage if he goes it alone.
I don't find anything humourous about you rupturing your testicles or prostate, ejaculating blood as you take a vigourous time out from your miserable life. :yikes
Have a Bex and a good lie down....
more :blabla :blabla :blabla more GOOSE EGG
you have some weird fantasies agay :hey
sallywinder
05-29-2008, 08:21 PM
at least taylor has a punchers chance in mundines next fight.........?
pecks
05-29-2008, 08:27 PM
at least taylor has a punchers chance in mundines next fight.........?Shannon Taylor, or Jason Taylor?
Marcus
05-29-2008, 08:29 PM
at least taylor has a punchers chance in mundines next fight.........?
Id rather see jungle boy fight Mundine next.
Rise Above
05-29-2008, 09:06 PM
That avatar is fucked up Marcus. :good
stiflers mum
05-29-2008, 10:43 PM
Kessler = :fuckoff = Calzaghe
:|:|:|:| "he hurt his hand, he hurt his hand, there should be a rematch"= The whole of Denmark for the 6 months that follows.:lol:
at least taylor has a punchers chance in mundines next fight.........?no cunt
sallywinder
05-30-2008, 12:38 AM
marcus. looks like youve got evidence of the barry michael / mundine love affair..
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