View Full Version : Mundine looked crisp...
and the fight was surprisingly very good.
It was fought at a very good pace and both fighters showed tremendous fitness.
Mundine has definitely not slowed at all, he was very strong and very quick. His timing was superb and his left hook is being thrown more naturally than it has ever been before.
I rate Mundines defence as the best in the division and now i can say that his straight right has to be up there aswell, lightning quick and accurate.
I gave Sam 3 maybe 4 rounds (1 clear round). I gave Mundine about 4 clear rounds with rest being close.
There was no clear indication in the post fight interview of him wanting to go to MW, i hope he doesnt.
Good fight,
PS - Unbias post ^^^^^^^ :D
PPS - Hedgecock is a sook :deal
sallywinder
05-29-2008, 07:27 PM
boring fight. mundine looked washed up. soliman showed how limited mundine is. if mundine EVER fights a decent fighter again, he will sleep for another 15 mins......
Marcus
05-29-2008, 07:55 PM
Geale vs Mundine , Dan could go up in weight, grab a fake WBA title, and be back down at middle in time for tea :D
lefty
05-29-2008, 08:20 PM
boring fight. mundine looked washed up. soliman showed how limited mundine is. if mundine EVER fights a decent fighter again, he will sleep for another 15 mins......
That's a stupid thing to say mate, styles make fights.
Barge FTA
05-29-2008, 09:28 PM
i'm not sure which fight some people here were watching. it couldn't have been the Soliman V Mundine fight. to say mundine was slow and looked washed up is far from the truth. they must just be Mundine haters and not analysing the fight.
CarltonBlues
05-29-2008, 09:45 PM
i'm not sure which fight some people here were watching. it couldn't have been the Soliman V Mundine fight. to say mundine was slow and looked washed up is far from the truth. they must just be Mundine haters and not analysing the fight.
I have no history here of hating on Mundine but he is clearly on the slide. He destroyed Soliman about 15 months ago hurting him numerous times, the other night not only couldn't he hurt him but he was getting tagged himself. Yes of course he's still a good fighter but he no longer has a chance of beating Kessler and that's why he's fleeing.
I wasn't impressed with Mundine and that's including last 3 fights. I am a supporter but must admit he's on the slide.
sallywinder
05-29-2008, 09:51 PM
mundine is badly trained. whatever he was doing different during the lead up to soloman 11, he should still be doing. obviously he is not.
that was probably his best ever (winning) performance. mundine crucified solomon that night. bashed him senseless.
he's been mediocre since then.
jack 27
05-29-2008, 09:53 PM
boring fight. mundine looked washed up. soliman showed how limited mundine is. if mundine EVER fights a decent fighter again, he will sleep for another 15 mins......
i love mundine.
soliman made the fight ugly. mundine looked bad because of solimans ugly style.
there was not one point in the fight where mundine looked worried. soliman is probably the lightest fisted fighter going around.
i rate mundine at being the best in super and middleweight fighters right now. the only thing he needs to work on more is his combinations and more of them.
lack of combinations made the fight look closer to the inexperienced fight fans.
AussieMauler
05-29-2008, 09:58 PM
I did not watch the fight i want to make this clear....
Is it possible Sam fought alot more like he used to - diving ducking lunging and was just a little harder to hit cleanly with the same punches that ended his night last time.
Is it possible he was just better prepared.
Rematches rarely end the same way as previous fights
Pavlik v Taylor 1 and 2......first ones carnage on both sides - second fight goes 12
I didnt watch the fight so i cant say- seems like a reasonable result in re re match situation
jack 27
05-29-2008, 09:59 PM
he was hard to hit because he was doing his no look punches then run.
AussieMauler
05-29-2008, 10:05 PM
i thuoght it might have been the case- one of the reasons i didnt watch it.
no matter what happened there was no way Soliman beats mundine
sallywinder
05-29-2008, 10:07 PM
he was hard to hit because he was doing his no look punches then run.
cutting edge boxing technique.....:patsch
i rate mundine at being the best in super and middleweight fighters right now. the only thing he needs to work on more is his combinations and more of them.
And maybe try to fight some of the top guy's :yep
sallywinder
05-29-2008, 11:12 PM
hes trying to fight some of THE SMALLER GUYS. a la chris byrd. hehehe
Mundine is no where near washed up, he fought well againt Sam who came into this fight alot better prepared than the 2nd fight, stuck to a plan and followed everything his corner said in between rounds.
Sam is just a plain ugly fighter to oppose in the ring and Mundine was breaking him down towards the end of the fight. Sam would have given anyone fits the other night.
sallywinder
05-30-2008, 12:35 AM
mundine bashed then kod solomon last time. this time he struggled. bad trainer, bad corner, bad advice. he needs to get back to what made him successful in the second fight...
mundine bashed then kod solomon last time. this time he struggled. bad trainer, bad corner, bad advice. he needs to get back to what made him successful in the second fight...Mate did you watch the fight, he fought the exact same way probably even better, give Sam some credit
sallywinder
05-30-2008, 01:30 AM
Mate did you watch the fight, he fought the exact same way probably even better, give Sam some credit
yep. i recon thats what his handlers are telling him too....:lol: :patsch
stiflers mum
05-30-2008, 01:36 AM
Mundine is no where near washed up, he fought well againt Sam who came into this fight alot better prepared than the 2nd fight, stuck to a plan and followed everything his corner said in between rounds.
Sam is just a plain ugly fighter to oppose in the ring and Mundine was breaking him down towards the end of the fight. Sam would have given anyone fits the other night.:guitar:guitar:boohoo:boohoo:blabla:blabla
konaman
05-30-2008, 03:08 AM
Hey guys, new to the forum.
Im a Choc fan (not quite a nuthugger), but i was frustrated with his performance.
I felt his punching was accurate and very fast but found his workrate to be frustratingly low. Soliman appeared to frustrate him throughout the fight and i just didn't feel mundine was on top of his game.
I don't think any of his problems were physical or prep related, i just think they were mental.
When he threw them, they hit, so it was frustrating that he DIDNT throw them. Sometimes i felt like if he let his hands go and strung together 4 or 5 punch combos (it didnt appear as though sam could hurt him so it wasnt a big risk) he could have put sam on the deck.
He hit him at will, unfortunately he lacked the will to hit him.
There were so many times when sam would unload 5 or 6 second rate slaps and skimming punches and Choc wouldn't counter punch, when he could have easily tagged him (and he showed that he could when he wanted to).
I think crisp might describe his punching accuracy and speed, but mentally he was sub par i thought.
I suppose i just found it frustrating because i felt like he showed great potential when he threw A punch (singular, he rarely opened up with any fluid combos) yet he simply did not choose to pressure sam.
I can't wait to see choc fight a decent fighter but he is going to have to lift his work rate in my opinion.
AussieMauler
05-30-2008, 03:11 AM
Hey guys, new to the forum.
Im a Choc fan (not quite a nuthugger), but i was frustrated with his performance.
I felt his punching was accurate and very fast but found his workrate to be frustratingly low. Soliman appeared to frustrate him throughout the fight and i just didn't feel mundine was on top of his game.
I don't think any of his problems were physical or prep related, i just think they were mental.
When he threw them, they hit, so it was frustrating that he DIDNT throw them. Sometimes i felt like if he let his hands go and strung together 4 or 5 punch combos (it didnt appear as though sam could hurt him so it wasnt a big risk) he could have put sam on the deck.
He hit him at will, unfortunately he lacked the will to hit him.
There were so many times when sam would unload 5 or 6 second rate slaps and skimming punches and Choc wouldn't counter punch, when he could have easily tagged him (and he showed that he could when he wanted to).
I think crisp might describe his punching accuracy and speed, but mentally he was sub par i thought.
I suppose i just found it frustrating because i felt like he showed great potential when he threw A punch (singular, he rarely opened up with any fluid combos) yet he simply did not choose to pressure sam.
I can't wait to see choc fight a decent fighter but he is going to have to lift his work rate in my opinion.
so what your saying is....it caused frustration on many levels
grazz1971
05-30-2008, 03:29 AM
wish mundine would set up and really test himself, so we can see if he is the real deal
konaman
05-30-2008, 04:09 AM
so what your saying is....it caused frustration on many levels
Closer to rage, yes. :patsch
Box-on
05-30-2008, 04:25 AM
I feel both Sam and Mundine are on the slide. Although the fight was never going to be pretty, no-one looks good against Sam with his style. Mundine knew Sam couldn't hurt him and kept on him but couldn't land enough clean shots to finish him.
T.C.W
05-30-2008, 04:44 AM
Mundine won easy, it was boring fight, Sam was alot smarter this time, by moving more and not comming at Mundine.I think Sam could still give the top 3 Aussie 160 a real go, Pittman,Geale and Taylor
JOSEY WALES
05-30-2008, 05:10 AM
Mundine won easy, it was boring fight, Sam was alot smarter this time, by moving more and not comming at Mundine.I think Sam could still give the top 3 Aussie 160 a real go, Pittman,Geale and Taylor Good point , Sam should be used as a trial horse by these lads , Sherro would be wise to get in on the act also if he could persuade Sam to fight him @ S/middle . Everyone wins , Sam wouldn't take a hiding off any of them imo , the youngsters get solid experence , Sam earns good money and the boxing world gets see quality aussie boxing and its young prospects .
jack 27
05-30-2008, 05:47 AM
Hey guys, new to the forum.
Im a Choc fan (not quite a nuthugger), but i was frustrated with his performance.
I felt his punching was accurate and very fast but found his workrate to be frustratingly low. Soliman appeared to frustrate him throughout the fight and i just didn't feel mundine was on top of his game.
I don't think any of his problems were physical or prep related, i just think they were mental.
When he threw them, they hit, so it was frustrating that he DIDNT throw them. Sometimes i felt like if he let his hands go and strung
together 4 or 5 punch combos (it didnt appear as though sam could hurt him so it wasnt a big risk) he could have put sam on the deck.
He hit him at will, unfortunately he lacked the will to hit him.
There were so many times when sam would unload 5 or 6 second rate slaps and skimming punches and Choc wouldn't counter punch, when he could have easily tagged him (and he showed that he could when he wanted to).
I think crisp might describe his punching accuracy and speed, but mentally he was sub par i thought.
I suppose i just found it frustrating because i felt like he showed great potential when he threw A punch (singular, he rarely opened up with any fluid combos) yet he simply did not choose to pressure sam.
I can't wait to see choc fight a decent fighter but he is going to have to lift his work rate in my opinion.
that is spot on mate..
everything u have said i agree!
lefty
05-30-2008, 08:06 AM
mundine bashed then kod solomon last time. this time he struggled. bad trainer, bad corner, bad advice. he needs to get back to what made him successful in the second fight...
Fuck you're a dumbass, is it possible Soliman fought a smarter fight this time, maybe he prepared better? I don't know why i'm even responding to such a dumbfuck, kill yourself.
sallywinder
05-30-2008, 08:17 AM
Fuck you're a dumbass, is it possible Soliman fought a smarter fight this time, maybe he prepared better? I don't know why i'm even responding to such a dumbfuck, kill yourself.
lol. good attempt at a reply, using the limited vocabulary you possess. the language your mother taught you is known as "bad language" . but a brain dead slut like her wouldnt know any better...
lefty
05-30-2008, 09:02 AM
lol. good attempt at a reply, using the limited vocabulary you possess. the language your mother taught you is known as "bad language" . but a brain dead slut like her wouldnt know any better...
Yeah, you really taught me how to be classy there, thanks for that. My mother was an english teacher and a poet, i could destroy you with words or by slapping my dick across your face. Really though, why bother? You're nothing but an unintelligent, dirty little parasite, your mother should've swallowed you.
kruger
05-30-2008, 09:02 AM
I have to admit that in his last 3 fights Mundine hasnt impressed me.
I thought he was good to go with the best of them after Green and Soliman 2, but after the last taxi driver, Hamden and Soliman I am not so sure.
sallywinder
05-30-2008, 09:19 AM
lefty, weve found some common ground. my mum was a teacher also. and we can both revert to bad language...
JOSEY WALES
05-30-2008, 09:52 AM
i love mundine.
soliman made the fight ugly. mundine looked bad because of solimans ugly style.
there was not one point in the fight where mundine looked worried. soliman is probably the lightest fisted fighter going around.
i rate mundine at being the best in super and middleweight fighters right now. the only thing he needs to work on more is his combinations and more of them.
lack of combinations made the fight look closer to the inexperienced fight fans. :rofl :rofl :rofl Hey Jack the lips, Are you telling us, Calzaghe ( THE UNDISPUTED CHAMP), Kessler (# 1 ) , Bute (# 2 ) , Froch / Inkin (# 3/4 ) , Pavlik , Taylor , Miranda ,Abraham & Strum are all dead ? :yikes or that Mundine is the best Middle and S/Middle in Australia ?
:rofl :rofl :rofl Hey Jack the lips, Are you telling us, Calzaghe ( THE UNDISPUTED CHAMP), Kessler (# 1 ) , Bute (# 2 ) , Froch / Inkin (# 3/4 ) , Pavlik , Taylor , Miranda ,Abraham & Strum are all dead ? :yikes or that Mundine is the best Middle and S/Middle in Australia ?
You rate Bute, Froch and Inkin all above Mundine? Bute perhaps, but Froch and Inkin?:huh
Froch is a strong dude but Mundine would sniper his ass all night long to a comfortable decision.
Bentchassis
05-31-2008, 10:45 AM
Froch is a strong dude but Mundine would sniper his ass all night long to a comfortable decision.
Yep, I like him against Miranda and Sturm as well.
JOSEY WALES
05-31-2008, 02:12 PM
You rate Bute, Froch and Inkin all above Mundine? Bute perhaps, but Froch and Inkin?:huh Oh fucking yes i do and all the mentioned middles , Mundine aint even proven he's the best in the commonwealth yet , Mundine should fight Bika to see if he's the best in Austarlia even ,,TEKE lmfao Mundine sniper Froch ? Oh yea has Mandy been having cement injected into his Dodggy chin ?
Oh fucking yes i do and all the mentioned middles , Mundine aint even proven he's the best in the commonwealth yet , Mundine should fight Bika to see if he's the best in Austarlia even ,,TEKE lmfao Mundine sniper Froch ? Oh yea has Mandy been having cement injected into his Dodggy chin ?
You are kidding yourself, I'm no hugger mate, but exactly who has Froch beaten? His defence is pretty poor so I'll side with Teke in this. I won't mention Inkin. On a head to head basis, if you pick Froch or Inkin over Mundine IMO you are crazy.
stiflers mum
05-31-2008, 10:21 PM
Froch is a strong dude but Mundine would sniper his ass all night long to a comfortable decision.
maybe so but we will never get to see because the man will only fight safe fights from now on. he is on WWS talking about wright,pavlik, calxaghe but not avenging his 1 sided beating at the hands of kessler:patsch the guys he mentioned would have barely heard of him.your boys scared.
sallywinder
05-31-2008, 10:23 PM
mundine will have real trouble with the weight...EVERY TIME HE FIGHTS from now on.
Peterp
05-31-2008, 11:15 PM
Mundine is definitely on the decline but he is still damm good
You are kidding yourself, I'm no hugger mate, but exactly who has Froch beaten? His defence is pretty poor so I'll side with Teke in this. I won't mention Inkin. On a head to head basis, if you pick Froch or Inkin over Mundine IMO you are crazy.Josie you're a Froch nuthugger aswell i see, that's understandable since he is your fellow countryman.
Froch aint shit
maybe so but we will never get to see because the man will only fight safe fights from now on. he is on WWS talking about wright,pavlik, calxaghe but not avenging his 1 sided beating at the hands of kessler:patsch the guys he mentioned would have barely heard of him.your boys scared.Scared or not he would still beat Froch i am dam sure of that
pecks
05-31-2008, 11:56 PM
Scared or not he would still beat Froch i am dam sure of thatFroch - Too much weights. not enough speedwork.
Froch - Too much weights. not enough speedwork.:lol::yep
Josey I know you're from Wales but to us you're all the same over there ----> POMS
Rise Above
06-01-2008, 12:02 AM
Froch - Too much weights. not enough speedwork.
:rofl:rofl
stuistylee
06-01-2008, 07:20 AM
just ageneral observation...i have been a fight fan 4 20 yrs and have nevewr seen such a fkn clown as mundine...he takes this sport and shits on it...at least jorge paez talked the talk n fought the fight...anthony fuk off...
sallywinder
06-01-2008, 07:26 AM
just ageneral observation...i have been a fight fan 4 20 yrs and have nevewr seen such a fkn clown as mundine...he takes this sport and shits on it...at least jorge paez talked the talk n fought the fight...anthony fuk off...
funny, how being an aussie i want to defend mundine as another aussie, against someone from another country who is giving him shit...
but fuck it! im not gunna.
shavers
06-01-2008, 02:40 PM
Mundine is a scared shitles fraud, he should try and fight the best out there and prove his worth, instead of fighting secondrate opposition and then claiming to be the best!!!
KO Boxing
06-01-2008, 03:31 PM
Just finished watching the fight - and Mundine did look crisp.
I gave Soliman 3 rounds, but can easilly be happy with the judges giving him 4. At about round 4 or 5, Mundine took over and won all the middle rounds. Sammy came back well in rounds 9 and 10, but I gave Mundine both the last rounds.
This fight went basically EXACTLY how I (and everyone else for that matter) thought the second one would go. A tough (but very clear, booo Dave Hedgecock - your a bad sport and that's bad for boxing, period) decision win for Mundine, who probably wasn't as sharp as normal due to Sam's elusive and awkward style.
A lot of people probably had higher hopes for Mundine based on the brutal KO in the second fight. I know I did, but still - good work from Mundine. He's not fading AT ALL - but the guy does attract very strong emotional responses from the boys back home (in Oz), so that's understandable.
JOSEY WALES
06-01-2008, 05:17 PM
Josie you're a Froch nuthugger aswell i see, that's understandable since he is your fellow countryman.
Froch aint shit Far from it Teke mate i despise the gobby cunt and if mundine sparked him i would have zero problem with it ,however i still think he has the tools to beat Mundine , in fact i think these two would bring the best out of each other , what a solid Aussie v Brit fight , commonwealth title on the line also .
JOSEY WALES
06-01-2008, 06:32 PM
You are kidding yourself, I'm no hugger mate, but exactly who has Froch beaten? His defence is pretty poor so I'll side with Teke in this. I won't mention Inkin. On a head to head basis, if you pick Froch or Inkin over Mundine IMO you are crazy. Ok mate if thats your opinion i respect it ,However Froch and Inkin are moving into world class level and Mundine has slipped imo , one thing is clear as crystal to me though , Both are a few notches above Ottke , Taylor or Sam .
i love mundine.
soliman made the fight ugly. mundine looked bad because of solimans ugly style.
there was not one point in the fight where mundine looked worried. soliman is probably the lightest fisted fighter going around.
i rate mundine at being the best in super and middleweight fighters right now. the only thing he needs to work on more is his combinations and more of them.
lack of combinations made the fight look closer to the inexperienced fight fans.
How do you rate Mundine above Kessler and Calzaghe out of curiosity??
IrnBruMan
06-01-2008, 08:20 PM
What flavoured crisp did he look like?
CHICKEN? :yep
roscoe
06-01-2008, 09:12 PM
Fried Choc Chicken!!
stiflers mum
06-01-2008, 10:18 PM
How do you rate Mundine above Kessler and Calzaghe out of curiosity??
read the post he loves mundine.gav and jack:fight
Just finished watching the fight - and Mundine did look crisp.
I gave Soliman 3 rounds, but can easilly be happy with the judges giving him 4. At about round 4 or 5, Mundine took over and won all the middle rounds. Sammy came back well in rounds 9 and 10, but I gave Mundine both the last rounds.
This fight went basically EXACTLY how I (and everyone else for that matter) thought the second one would go. A tough (but very clear, booo Dave Hedgecock - your a bad sport and that's bad for boxing, period) decision win for Mundine, who probably wasn't as sharp as normal due to Sam's elusive and awkward style.
A lot of people probably had higher hopes for Mundine based on the brutal KO in the second fight. I know I did, but still - good work from Mundine. He's not fading AT ALL - but the guy does attract very strong emotional responses from the boys back home (in Oz), so that's understandable.That's how i saw it, and we are giving credit to Sammy in saying this. Sammy foguht brave and kept to his corners advice.
shavers
06-02-2008, 06:24 AM
How do you rate Mundine above Kessler and Calzaghe out of curiosity??
Yeah he needs to get back to the straightjacket, and asap....
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