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Smith
05-30-2008, 08:48 AM
BRITISH featherweight champion John Simpson of Greenock has vowed to give South Queensferry youngster, Paul Appleby, his comeuppance by making a successful defence of his crown when the pair do battle at the Kelvin Hall, Glasgow, next Friday evening.Simpson was taken aback by 20-year-old Appleby's assertion that he is favourite to win and maintain his 100 per cent ring record in his 12th professional contest.

"I will be too big and tall for John," declared Appleby earlier this week. "I will use my longer reach to catch him with one of my left hooks to the body and then I think it will be all over."

But Simpson, 24, countered yesterday: "I think a lot of what Paul has been saying is bravado in an attempt to boost his self- confidence. I am going to out-box him and, when we go to war, I will also out-fight him.

"Paul has an impressive record. He has won eight of his 11 fights by knockout and you do not do that without having something. But Paul will bring nothing to the table that I have not experienced before."

He added: I'm in great shape and anything that Paul throws at me, I will be able to take. He has a longer reach but I've sparred with and fought boxers who have had a longer reach before."

"Paul said that he is going into the fight as favourite, but that's good for me, maybe he's been reading his press a bit too much and that can only be to my benefit. I'm sure he won't be so confident on the night. Paul hasn't fought anywhere near the level of opponent that I have. But I don't think my greater experience is the only key to the fight."

Simpson's manager, Alex Morrison believes the bout will rekindle fond memories of the one between former world champions Ken Buchanan and Jim Watt for the lightweight title in Glasgow 35 years ago.

Morrison said: "It has all the ingredients to be a great fight."




I'm getting excited about this one now.:happy:happy:happy:happy

TFFP
05-30-2008, 08:54 AM
Sensible words from Simpson

I definitely see a tough night for Appleby. Simpson will have to close the distance quickly to get inside, and I see him causing problems early on, there will be some sticky moments for Appleby defensively. Overall, I'm expecting Appleby to overcome the adversity and show his potential, his strength at the weight and power will come through as the pace slows later on. I think he could stop Simpson for the first time

Smith
05-30-2008, 09:00 AM
Like you say TFFP, this fight for me will show how far Paul will go in the game. This is his first opponent who is not going to give anyone an easy fight. John will make you work for your victory, tremendously so.

Is Appleby comes through this with a good win, or even the slight possibility of a stoppage, the bandwagon will be in motion.

Going to be a superb night.

Anyone any idea of the undercard?

victorhugo4222
05-30-2008, 10:11 AM
barry morrison and craig coyle are both on the undercard. cant remember who else but will be a cracking night.

BigEars
05-30-2008, 10:38 AM
Sensible words from Simpson

I definitely see a tough night for Appleby. Simpson will have to close the distance quickly to get inside, and I see him causing problems early on, there will be some sticky moments for Appleby defensively. Overall, I'm expecting Appleby to overcome the adversity and show his potential, his strength at the weight and power will come through as the pace slows later on. I think he could stop Simpson for the first time

Exactly how I see it , Simpson shall expose flwas in Appleby(flaws that are there more due to inexperience then anything else) but it won't be enough to prevail and I feel Appleby's power will eventually see him stopping Simpson .

I think it will be a great fight .

maka
05-30-2008, 10:38 AM
morrison not on the undercard no more, because his fight with barnes is on the 4th july "defo", but jamie coyle is.

simpson tko early, appleby simply to big for his boots for this one, especially like to see this because of applebys lies about hurting morrison in sparring

good luck john boy :good

Max Molyneux
05-30-2008, 10:40 AM
Simpson will have too much, Appleby has been rushed and Isn't ready.

TFFP
05-30-2008, 10:42 AM
McGuire vs. Anthony Young at supermiddle, with the view to an eliminator against Cleverley. The card at present looks like this:

John Simpson SC Paul Appleby 12
Ryan Brawley SC TBA 8
Steven McGuire SC Anthony Young 6
Ricky Burns SC TBA 6
Andrew Ferrans SC TBA 6
Jamie Coyle SC TBA 6
David Savage Jr. SC TBA 4
Gordon Breenan SC TBA 4
Ricky Owen SC TBA 4

dwilson
05-30-2008, 04:32 PM
I really hope Simpson wins this. He is a good lad and deserves abit more success. I am not too sure of Appleby yet and I think this is going to be a great night for him win or lose. If Appleby wins he will gain a load of respect and be in a good position to have a very successful career, if he loses he still has time and the potential to come back and make a success of his career.


Most importantly it is a great night for fans of the domestic scene.

boxgirl
06-01-2008, 12:21 PM
was it not applebys coach that said about him hurtin morrison in sparrin , not appleby , i wish both boys the best of luck on the night , and personally anyone who knows paul , knows he isnt cocky or that just a nice down to earth young lad, who is confident , nout wrong with that , good luck boys !!!!

will be a great night , for the fans

rumour24tiger
06-02-2008, 09:14 AM
From that article, Simpson makes a great case for himself.

However, Appleby is here to make his name and will be highly motivated. I don't think he'd come into a big fight like this overconfident. His promoter knows what he's doing.

BigEars
06-02-2008, 11:13 AM
was it not applebys coach that said about him hurtin morrison in sparrin , not appleby , i wish both boys the best of luck on the night , and personally anyone who knows paul , knows he isnt cocky or that just a nice down to earth young lad, who is confident , nout wrong with that , good luck boys !!!!

will be a great night , for the fans

It was Appleby's coach . Paul himself only said he had got good sparring with Barry Morrison .

Then Appleby's coach said Paul was looking very good is sparring , that he'd been sparring with Barry Morrison . He then said he was certain Paul would win as he'd been looking so good in sparring hurting Light-Welterweights .

So of course we're to presume the he was hurting Morrison in sparring but whether his coach intended to say that or not(which I think we can take he did) it did not come from the mouth of Appleby himself .

boxgirl
06-02-2008, 11:31 AM
thats what i thought cant wait for friday likes should be a brill night i think brawley is fighting mckeever ????

finzwinz
06-03-2008, 10:09 AM
Does anyone know the ticket status for this one? Are there any left, who do I contact and how much a seat?

Cheers

Finz

boxgirl
06-03-2008, 01:34 PM
there is a website someone runs called [Only registered and activated users can see links] there is some ticket info on there dunno if they will be able to get u any have a look though n see maybe get u tickets there

kep
06-03-2008, 06:03 PM
Does anyone know the ticket status for this one? Are there any left, who do I contact and how much a seat?

Cheers

Finznot a sell out yet you can pay at door:good

bizness
06-03-2008, 06:46 PM
It was Appleby's coach . Paul himself only said he had got good sparring with Barry Morrison .

Then Appleby's coach said Paul was looking very good is sparring , that he'd been sparring with Barry Morrison . He then said he was certain Paul would win as he'd been looking so good in sparring hurting Light-Welterweights .

So of course we're to presume the he was hurting Morrison in sparring but whether his coach intended to say that or not(which I think we can take he did) it did not come from the mouth of Appleby himself .Let just clear this up guys i sparred about 20 rounds with paul appleby and he didnt even come close 2 hurting me!!! and if u ask him he ll clear that one up himself!!!

obviously his coach is trying 2 play mind games and make it look as tho hes hurtin me 2 make simpson wary,but i dont appreciate bein made 2 look a fool in the press so wont b helpin paul out wi sparrin again!!!!

kerrminator
06-03-2008, 06:52 PM
How do you reckon this one will go Bizness?

I can see the young fella winning this as long as he remembers his defence. He sometimes seems too eager to please the crowd and all defence goes out the window.

bizness
06-03-2008, 07:01 PM
How do you reckon this one will go Bizness?

I can see the young fella winning this as long as he remembers his defence. He sometimes seems too eager to please the crowd and all defence goes out the window.Its goin 2 b a *******,a know who a think will win but not goin public with it

just good 2 c 2 good scots fightin 4 british title!! lookin forward 2 it!!

kerrminator
06-03-2008, 10:28 PM
Yeah, deffo man. Props to Paul for taking this one so early and props to John for giving him a crack at it. This is a definite glory fight as both fighters could have just as easily taken an easier fight.

Im gonna be working quite late on Friday but I will be back i time for this one no mistake :)

victorhugo4222
06-05-2008, 08:04 AM
Let just clear this up guys i sparred about 20 rounds with paul appleby and he didnt even come close 2 hurting me!!! and if u ask him he ll clear that one up himself!!!

obviously his coach is trying 2 play mind games and make it look as tho hes hurtin me 2 make simpson wary,but i dont appreciate bein made 2 look a fool in the press so wont b helpin paul out wi sparrin again!!!!

What did you think of Appleby when sparring with him? what would you say were his weaknesses? iv been speaking to john and he sees quite a few obvious flaws.

Johns had some good sparring with the likes of willie limond and ricky burns and is looking in great shape. his power especially his body shots have improves so much over the last year and i think that will be the difference.

John to wear apleby down then stop him maybe 8th or 9th. aplpleby has never been furthe than 6 i think were john has went the full 12 5 times now. do you think that will have ny difference in the outcome as you have obviousl;y been there and done it.

also hows you training coming along for ther barnes fight?

BigEars
06-05-2008, 03:27 PM
What did you think of Appleby when sparring with him? what would you say were his weaknesses? iv been speaking to john and he sees quite a few obvious flaws.

Johns had some good sparring with the likes of willie limond and ricky burns and is looking in great shape. his power especially his body shots have improves so much over the last year and i think that will be the difference.

John to wear apleby down then stop him maybe 8th or 9th. aplpleby has never been furthe than 6 i think were john has went the full 12 5 times now. do you think that will have ny difference in the outcome as you have obviousl;y been there and done it.

also hows you training coming along for ther barnes fight?

Appleby did go 8 with Buster Dennis but the furtherest he's been other than that is 6 .

That's some top quality sparring for both fighters so both Paul and John will be in great nick .

However wins I think this is assured to be a great fight , possibly British boxing fight of the year .

kevster100
06-06-2008, 07:49 AM
Its goin 2 b a *******,a know who a think will win but not goin public with it


Gizza clue mate ;) . Or if you wouldn't mind, I'd love your opinion through a pm (it won't go public).

I'm currently nuts deep on John but would trade out if you favoured Paul.

Good luck next month against Barnesy btw. :good

maka
06-06-2008, 08:43 AM
simpson tko i'm feelin for this one

ladbrokes=

R 1 = 80/1
R 2 = 66/1
R 3 = 50/1
R11 = 40/1

william hills=

rounds 3,4,5,6= 50/1

rounds= 7,8,9= 40/1
round 10= 33/1

high street odds.

kevster100
06-06-2008, 09:01 AM
simpson tko i'm feelin for this one

ladbrokes=

R 1 = 80/1
R 2 = 66/1
R 3 = 50/1
R11 = 40/1

william hills=

rounds 3,4,5,6= 50/1

rounds= 7,8,9= 40/1
round 10= 33/1

high street odds.

I've had a flutter on Simpson at 40's for round 10 :p

Max Molyneux
06-06-2008, 03:23 PM
For a British title challenger It's pretty strange he's only fought 8 rounders at the most and not gone past 8. He Is the mandatry but Appleby's being thrown Into the lions den.

Don't understand why Appleby Is the favourite, John's gone the distance with some tough fighters.

That said though, Appleby can be a future British champ when he's experianced enough.

stevebhoy87
06-06-2008, 05:39 PM
Anybody got a link to watch the fight on?

TAM83
06-06-2008, 05:45 PM
This is warming up nicely

somerset
06-06-2008, 05:49 PM
Can somebody do a rbr?

TAM83
06-06-2008, 05:52 PM
Got the 1st round even and 2nd was comfortable for simpson

TAM83
06-06-2008, 05:53 PM
Give the 3rd to Appleby on workrate, he stepped it up a gear in the 3rd. Neither fighter has been hurt really so far.

All square for me so far

TAM83
06-06-2008, 05:57 PM
Got Simpson 1 up now, still nothing big landed from either fighter

Smith
06-06-2008, 05:57 PM
Give the 3rd to Appleby on workrate, he stepped it up a gear in the 3rd. Neither fighter has been hurt really so far.

All square for me so farWhere are you watching it?

What was the undercard results?

TAM83
06-06-2008, 06:01 PM
10-8 round for appleby, Simpson down a punch landed but it was more of a slip than anything else. Ref made him take the 8 count.

Appleby 1 up

jamel
06-06-2008, 06:01 PM
On this one I have picked a winner changed my mind and changed back again. To be honest I think it is truly 50/50. I have not seen alot of these fighters, I watched Appleby v Higginson II, Andy Davis, Riaz Durgahed & Istvan Nagy. Only saw Simpson v Andy Morris III. I watched these on youtube twice and still could not make up my mind for definite, one things for sure though should be an exciting fight. I do not think this will end early though I think it will definitely go into the later rounds and should be a war, I do feel Appleby is the quicker fighter but he will need to watch for the right hand over the top from Simpson. Simpson has all the experience and has boxed many more rounds and gone past 8 rounds many times. Appleby has not been further than eight and hard sparring is one thing, but when you are out there in a title fight, fighting more rounds than ever before with your opponent still fighting hard and your unbeaten record on the line aswell, you cannot let the pressure get to you.

TAM83
06-06-2008, 06:02 PM
Where are you watching it?

What was the undercard results?


In the house mate, undercard hasn't been on yet

somerset
06-06-2008, 06:04 PM
Cheers, I can see some of it, neither fighters look particularly marked-up

TAM83
06-06-2008, 06:05 PM
Another round for Appleby, got him 2 up now

TAM83
06-06-2008, 06:06 PM
McCrorry has Appleby 4 up

somerset
06-06-2008, 06:08 PM
Simpson seems more stylish, Appleby hungrier

TAM83
06-06-2008, 06:09 PM
Simpson pulls a round back, think he hurt Appleby with a bodyshot near the end.

Got it 1 for Appleby now

somerset
06-06-2008, 06:12 PM
Yeah, and Appleby looks like he's getting tired

TAM83
06-06-2008, 06:13 PM
Got it all square now after 8, Appleby seems to be tiring. Staring to hold a lot, Simpson using the bodyshots wisely.

TAM83
06-06-2008, 06:17 PM
Better round for Appleby, seemed to get his rythm back in that round. Got him 1 up

TAM83
06-06-2008, 06:21 PM
another round for Appleby for me, 2 up

stake501
06-06-2008, 06:29 PM
appleby by three on my card

TAM83
06-06-2008, 06:30 PM
Fights over got Appleby by 1. Wonder if that knockdown will be decisive?

GazOC
06-06-2008, 06:31 PM
2 rounds for Appleby. Great fight.

GazOC
06-06-2008, 06:31 PM
Fights over got Appleby by 1. Wonder if that knockdown will be decisive?
I hope not, it looked a bit 'iffy' to me...

TAM83
06-06-2008, 06:32 PM
2 judges 114-115 the other 113-115, all for Appleby. I should be a judge:D

GazOC
06-06-2008, 06:33 PM
Simpson would have got a MD but for the knock down (assuming it was scored 10-8)...if my maths are right????

somerset
06-06-2008, 06:33 PM
Yup, only a flash knockdown in it

victorhugo4222
06-06-2008, 06:37 PM
Simpson would have got a MD but for the knock down (assuming it was scored 10-8)...if my maths are right????

yeah but i think overall appleby deserved it.

GazOC
06-06-2008, 06:44 PM
yeah but i think overall appleby deserved it.

I agree. Anyone for a re-match?

Max Molyneux
06-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Thought John won that Appleby could only work for half the rounds then gas and hold.

TFFP
06-06-2008, 07:03 PM
Appleby by 3 on mine.

Jack
06-06-2008, 07:11 PM
Does Appleby still shit himself when his opponent throws a punch?

Betty Swollocks
06-06-2008, 07:24 PM
Does Appleby still shit himself when his opponent throws a punch?

no, he comes back firing. And unlike Hatton, he's fighting proper tests and not tomato cans 40 fights in like Wicky.

Max Molyneux
06-06-2008, 07:42 PM
Does Appleby still shit himself when his opponent throws a punch?

No but he winced and held quite a lot.

I couldn't concentrate properly on watching punches to score so maybe Appleby did win.

GazOC
06-06-2008, 07:42 PM
no, he comes back firing. And unlike Hatton, he's fighting proper tests and not tomato cans 40 fights in like Wicky.
0.5/10:roll:

Grow up FFS.......

D-MAC
06-06-2008, 07:47 PM
Appleby by 2 or 3 for me, but it wasn't exactly "take your breath away" "This guy is the future of British boxing" type stuff.

But I suppose he is only 20 yrs old.

TFFP
06-06-2008, 09:40 PM
Let's be honest, he is a twat though

Jack
06-06-2008, 10:49 PM
no, he comes back firing. And unlike Hatton, he's fighting proper tests and not tomato cans 40 fights in like Wicky.
You see, that's why your Hatton posts have no credibility. When it comes to him you're a troll. He's got nothing to do with this thread, yet you have a go? Why? Because you think I'm a huge fan of his or something?

EDIT: Actually, no, please don't reply. it's not fair that topics are constantly getting dragged away from the original point. Just let it be.

BigEars
06-07-2008, 01:10 AM
Appleby by 3 for me . At 20 years old and only in his 12th fight against the British champion(and a fighter who is good enough to be British champion) , with having only done an 8th rounder once I thought it was a very good performance .

I did predict a stoppage win for Appleby but even still I can't believe the amount of people who seem to be writing him off after a legitimate win .


For a British title challenger It's pretty strange he's only fought 8 rounders at the most and not gone past 8. He Is the mandatry but Appleby's being thrown Into the lions den.

Don't understand why Appleby Is the favourite, John's gone the distance with some tough fighters.

That said though, Appleby can be a future British champ when he's experianced enough.
Thought John won that Appleby could only work for half the rounds then gas and hold.
Max I'm wondering if your just trying to save face here , as Appleby proved he's experienced enough , with the talent he has to be British champ already .

I felt Appleby was the one who continued working throught the fight and it is what won it for him , in the later rounds Simpsons workrate was too low and he initiated a lot of clinches(which Applebyh had no problem being part of and often pushed Simpson back to the ropes in those clinches) .

What makes the win all the more impressive was Simpson seemed to be in terrific shape , possibly the best of his career . He may have seemed a little gunshy at times tonight but when your in against a big puncher that can happen .


Can't wait till Appleby , Truscott and Lindsay are matched with each other . Plus Simpson will come back strong so it's a strong(and very young) division domestically .

Shame Hunter , Cook , Morris and Matthews are all leaving it(those last three are all going up to 130 if I'm not mistaken) and Foster jnr only moved up recently too .

jberg
06-07-2008, 05:36 AM
he was alright. at the beginning he showed signs of brilliance with the handspeed, but it got slower later

brown bomber
06-07-2008, 06:26 AM
This 20 year old argument doesn't hold any water when you compare his performance to those turned in by Michael Brodie, Spencer Oliver, Pat Mullings and Ryan Rhodes at a similer age. He's nowhere near as talented as those guys. Impressive scalp- yes, Not an impressive performance and I dind't see any signs of brilliance... he looked like a poor mans Kevin Mitchell. I didn't see his interview so i'm not a hater - it simply wasn't that impressive.

jc
06-07-2008, 06:32 AM
A good hard 12 ounds would have done him the world of good as does the confidence of winning his first major title. Quite a few of a world champions had hard fought battles at British title level and with a lot more than 11 low level fights on the cv. Hatton, Woods and Witter all had hard domestic fights before going onto world honours.

I think they should keep him at this level for atleast another half dozen fight, id like to see him go after the commonwealth champ at some point, tha would be a good match of styles and a fight he wins comfortably imo. Also the commonwealth belt gives him championship purses but a wider selection of oponents.

Overrall a good performance, Appleby is still a man to keep an eye he is nowhere near the finished article.

BigEars
06-07-2008, 07:13 AM
This 20 year old argument doesn't hold any water when you compare his performance to those turned in by Michael Brodie, Spencer Oliver, Pat Mullings and Ryan Rhodes at a similer age. He's nowhere near as talented as those guys. Impressive scalp- yes, Not an impressive performance and I dind't see any signs of brilliance... he looked like a poor mans Kevin Mitchell. I didn't see his interview so i'm not a hater - it simply wasn't that impressive.

Brodie was 23 when he won the British title after 19 fights .
Oliver 22 won European title after 11 fights
Mullings was 26 by the time he faught Spencer and 27 when he won the IBO
Rhodes 20 won British after 11 fights


So bar Rhodes , (who turned out to be one of the biggest disappointments in British boxing in a long time anyway) Appleby's achievement can't really be compared with the others .

You could say he had a similar number of fights to Oliver , but while true two years does make a big difference . aTxip0zPgtQ
That's Appleby 2 years ago , and when you compare that to what he is now there's no comparrison . Now obviously the difference in improvement won't be as great as the next 2 years as a pro compared to the first 2 but it still shows the significance of 2 years extra experience to a young pro .

Oliver also had a 10 rounder under his belt by that stage .
Appleby had one 8 rounder , two fights that went 6 so the gap to 12 rounds was quite a big one .

I've no doubt that you still won't be impressed by Appleby but I just feel the people you are comparing him to(bar Rhodes) aren't fair in terms of judging his ability .

Very few prospects(anywhere in the World) fight a guy as good as Simpson in their 12th fight at only 20 years of age , let alone beat him .

brown bomber
06-07-2008, 07:25 AM
Brodie was 23 when he won the British title after 19 fights .
Oliver 22 won European title after 11 fights
Mullings was 26 by the time he faught Spencer and 27 when he won the IBO
Rhodes 20 won British after 11 fights


So bar Rhodes , (who turned out to be one of the biggest disappointments in British boxing in a long time anyway) Appleby's achievement can't really be compared with the others .

You could say he had a similar number of fights to Oliver , but while true two years does make a big difference . aTxip0zPgtQ
That's Appleby 2 years ago , and when you compare that to what he is now there's no comparrison . Now obviously the difference in improvement won't be as great as the next 2 years as a pro compared to the first 2 but it still shows the significance of 2 years extra experience to a young pro .

Oliver also had a 10 rounder under his belt by that stage .
Appleby had one 8 rounder , two fights that went 6 so the gap to 12 rounds was quite a big one .

I've no doubt that you still won't be impressed by Appleby but I just feel the people you are comparing him to(bar Rhodes) aren't fair in terms of judging his ability .

Very few prospects(anywhere in the World) fight a guy as good as Simpson in their 12th fight at only 20 years of age , let alone beat him .Ok ... rair play big ears.... Mullings was a bad call but still I just can't see this guy improving that much.... Truscott has more scope for improvement.

kerrminator
06-07-2008, 01:44 PM
If Appleby gets a sponsor to fund his move to the states their are a lot of good trainers over there who he would benefit from imo. Now that he has won the british I reckon a few offers may come a knocking.

boxgirl
06-08-2008, 03:05 PM
If Appleby gets a sponsor to fund his move to the states their are a lot of good trainers over there who he would benefit from imo. Now that he has won the british I reckon a few offers may come a knocking. your jokin sponsors , he couldney get one until the week before the fight, so will watch this space .