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Mendoza
06-01-2008, 02:32 PM
The speed and power of Foster, vs the durability and stamina of Monzon.

Longhhorn71
06-01-2008, 05:47 PM
The speed and power of Foster, vs the durability and stamina of Monzon.

Foster by at least TKO.

Monzon was the perfect MW, Foster was the perfect LH.

Mendoza
06-01-2008, 05:58 PM
I think I'll go with Foster here as well.

Bummy Davis
06-01-2008, 08:29 PM
I think its the wrong weight class for Monzon and the right one for Bob...Bob by stop

Russell
06-01-2008, 09:27 PM
Foster.

Marciano Frazier
06-01-2008, 09:35 PM
These two are actually very similar in my eyes- both champions whose styles were perfectly adapted for fighting within their own respective divisions, but at least in Foster's case, and I suspect Monzon's as well, not really suited for moving up to face bigger men. Against men their own size or smaller, I would make these guys favorite or even-odds against virtually anyone, but they were too stylistically dependent on that premise for such success to continue with upward movement. I believe, then, that Foster, being the ultimately-attuned light heavyweight, would beat Monzon, the ultimately-attuned middleweight, at his own game and probably stop him late.

Bo Bo Olson
06-02-2008, 02:21 AM
Monzone would be giving away too much reach to a real heavy hitting Light Heavy.
I remember my man Dick Tiger getting slaughtered....but Monzone would have to run all night long, and I don't think he could.
Monzone would stand a better chance vs Jones than Foster.IMO

Seamus
06-02-2008, 02:42 AM
Monzone would be giving away too much reach to a real heavy hitting Light Heavy.

Though I agree it is a bad matchup for Monzon, he did have a 77-inch reach, I doubt Foster's was significantly better. Foster was just much more accostomed to the weight division.

Senya13
06-02-2008, 03:53 AM
Foster by late stoppage.

teeto
06-02-2008, 04:14 AM
I like these threads Mendoza, because even though it would be one of the hardest to pick in a real/p4p sense, i can just pick the guy who's weight class it is, easy!!!!! Foster wins imo!

Really though , in a p4p sense this is a headache to pick, both were too dominant, doesnt matter about styles, in their primes, pure dominance

mcvey
06-02-2008, 06:52 AM
The speed and power of Foster, vs the durability and stamina of Monzon.
I see no way that Monzon can win this Foater can out box him from a distance and outpunch him in close,the physical advantages the rangy Monzon enjoyed at 160 would be cancelled here by the 6 3 Foster ,Monzon had good power in his right but only Heavies stopped Beltin Bob.He wins a u dec or stops Monzon around the 11th.

TommyV
06-02-2008, 07:45 AM
Foster by stoppage late. Monzon gives away too much of his reach advantage at light-heavy and Foster hits hard and is much more accustomed to the weight.

Seamus
06-02-2008, 08:59 AM
What was Foster's reach?

Longhhorn71
06-02-2008, 11:23 AM
What was Foster's reach?

I think around 78 inches, but he had "long arms" and not a broad back.

Foster's jab reached and cut Ali, so his punches would reach Monzon too.

Seamus
06-03-2008, 12:16 AM
I think around 78 inches, but he had "long arms" and not a broad back.

Foster's jab reached and cut Ali, so his punches would reach Monzon too.

So one inch beyond Monzon's reach? Certainly no fighter has overcome such a deficit!

Marciano Frazier
06-03-2008, 03:32 AM
So one inch beyond Monzon's reach? Certainly no fighter has overcome such a deficit!
You have a point, here... However, Monzon would still be at a considerable size and power deficit, and would at the least not enjoy the dimensional advantages he usually did. Monzon did possess incredible durability, physical strength and endurance- but would his strength, which was such an asset against men his own size and smaller, hold up against a big light heavyweight like Foster? The same goes for his chin- it was unbelieveable at middleweight, but against potentially the biggest puncher of all time at light heavyweight, would it still prove so undentable?

If Monzon can effectively withstand Foster's punch and is capable of physically holding his own with Foster when they get into the rough stuff, then I think he has a good chance at winning on points, particularly if he can wear Bob down late. But the thing is, I doubt those two premises would stand up- Foster would probably be able to fairly readily hurt Monzon and physically bully him, which would likely lead to Monzon being broken down into a stoppage.

Sardu
06-03-2008, 02:06 PM
Big Bob by late stoppage IMO.

Sardu
06-03-2008, 02:08 PM
Monzon did have a great chin but Foster's power at 175 was frightening. Foster was taller, stronger, harder hitter than Monzon and almost as good a boxer.

abraq
06-03-2008, 02:36 PM
I agree with what many has said here. Foster was a great LHW while Monzon was a great MW. A good big guy always beats a good little guy, right?

Which brings us to another question. Monzon never aspired for anything in the higher weight class. So, why on earth would he want to fight Foster at LHW?

Now, if Bob came down to MW (heh, heh), that would be interesting.

pmfan
06-04-2008, 04:43 PM
Monzon did have a great chin but Foster's power at 175 was frightening. Foster was taller, stronger, harder hitter than Monzon and almost as good a boxer.

So let them meet at a catch weight of 166. Then it's closer. Although I don't know if Foster could fight at (i.e., make) such a weight. I'm sure Monzon could.

There was no super middleweight division back then to allow for gradually moving up from middleweight. Middleweights tended to stay there because most couldn't compete with the light heavyweights. Although some like Tiger moved up.

Also, all fighters back then were actually about one weight division lighter on fight night than their counterparts of today. Monzon fought at a fight time weight that welterweights fight at today because of the early weigh ins today. Pavlik looks bigger than Hagler and Monzon and that's part of the reason. What's his fight night weight usually?

radianttwilight
06-04-2008, 06:05 PM
Foster via late T/KO

markedwardscott
06-08-2008, 01:06 PM
Foster too big and fast for Monzon.

ThinBlack
06-09-2008, 09:40 AM
Foster would kill Monzon in a round.

Xplosive
08-12-2008, 02:39 PM
I hope this a P4P matchup we're talking here, cause at 175 Monzon gets KILLED by Foster.