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Russell
06-02-2008, 01:39 AM
Careers.

Certain fighters simply took beatings that ended their careers as opposed to taking punishment and coming back to win.

Pinklon Thomas against Bowe, Holyfield and Tyson, for example.

Also, Bowe.

Hatesrats
06-02-2008, 01:44 AM
I'd prob Blame Bowe's Stomach & love of Food more than so his chin...
Tho I will admit that a K.O. from a head shot was defo gonna happen next.

Meldrick Taylor come's to mind bro...
his chin betrayed him, So did Terry Norris's chin.
hell even Simon Brown's gave out late in his career...some of my Fav's right there.

spion
06-02-2008, 03:50 AM
looks like Jason Litzau might be suffering from this problem

markedwardscott
06-07-2008, 09:55 PM
Donald Curry was a great fighter with a weak chin that ended his career.

Titan1
12-27-2008, 10:05 PM
John Tate?

Titan1
12-27-2008, 10:07 PM
Mark Breland?

Arriba
12-28-2008, 12:28 AM
I don't think guys like Curry and Litzau count for what the thread starter means. I think he means guys with great chins who took poundings over and over that left them more shot than guys who simply got KO'd and rebounded.

Can I add Erik Morales to the list?

JohnThomas1
12-28-2008, 12:45 AM
I can't quite follow the topic. Old age and being over the hill sorted Thomas out. There's 1 000 000 examples. Thomas was probably never beating those three regardless.

Sean O'Grady suddenly couldn't take a punch, same with Fenech and perhaps even Jones.

I guess Russ means one good (or particular) beating fukked them.

In this case i'll say Curry was never the same post Honeyghan. Then in turn Honeyghan post Starling maybe. The Braxton beating finally tipped Saad over the edge after many gruelling fights. Liston post Ali tho it's shady. The second Hagler fight gutted Hamsho IMO.

I'm halfway between two questions. One being fighters whose chin was glass after a certain beating and two where a fighter wasn't the same full stop. Hopefully i covered a bit of both.

SteveO
12-28-2008, 01:07 AM
Maybe Tommy Hearns.

Not that he suffered a KO every time, but it is the consensus that if he got clipped soundly on the chin, he was a done deal.

Russell
12-28-2008, 01:23 AM
I can't quite follow the topic. Old age and being over the hill sorted Thomas out. There's 1 000 000 examples. Thomas was probably never beating those three regardless.

Sean O'Grady suddenly couldn't take a punch, same with Fenech and perhaps even Jones.

I guess Russ means one good (or particular) beating fukked them.

In this case i'll say Curry was never the same post Honeyghan. Then in turn Honeyghan post Starling maybe. The Braxton beating finally tipped Saad over the edge after many gruelling fights. Liston post Ali tho it's shady. The second Hagler fight gutted Hamsho IMO.

I'm halfway between two questions. One being fighters whose chin was glass after a certain beating and two where a fighter wasn't the same full stop. Hopefully i covered a bit of both.

Fighters who's good chins resulted in them being beaten so badly they were never the same, physically or mentally.

Calzaghe/Lacy is a great example.

p.Townend
01-19-2009, 10:27 PM
Paul (scrap iron)Ryan is not in the same league as the fighters mentioned above,but his chin certainly ended his career.Knocked out most of his opponents and was unbeaten up to meeting Jon Thaxton who knocked him out in 1.If i remember rightly he lost every fight he had after that.Good to watch though!

Ted Stickles
01-19-2009, 10:28 PM
Tex Cobb......His chin was so good that he forgot to punch back...LOL

BUDW
01-19-2009, 11:31 PM
Tyson, roy jones

rekcutnevets
01-20-2009, 12:07 AM
David Izon, and Tua broke it. Watch the shots he took from Tua in their fight, and watch the way he breaks before the fight is stopped. Izon never stood up to shots like those again.

SnakeFist7
01-20-2009, 12:38 AM
Tyson, roy jones

Was it so much RJJ's chin then the circumstances of losing all that muscle mass too fast? I mean Chris byrd had a chin until he did it, then he was KO'D by a journeyman early. RJJ looked weak.

As for Tyson, not sure his chin ended his career. Personally speaking Tyson could take a punch, his skills deteriorating is more so the problem with him.

Tyson and RJJ are not an example of this, especially RJJ he was 34 when he got KTFO -- he was going to retire after the first Tarver fight. Really his Career was over at that point, he left his mark -- if only he would've retired. Tyson however was still in his 20's when he got KTFO by Buster and it took 10 rounds of a sustained ass whoopin to do it. I don't see how these guys are examples.

Also with the RJJ example, in the 1st fight with Tarver he had o dig deep to win the fight and did, so he came back. The 2nd fight was just a 2nd round KO. The Johnson fight was taking a beating then getting KTFO but the damage was already done prior to that.

My2Sense
01-20-2009, 03:06 AM
Fighters who's good chins resulted in them being beaten so badly they were never the same, physically or mentally.

Calzaghe/Lacy is a great example.

In other words, too tough for their own good.

Matthew Saad Muhammad is the first name that springs to my mind.

Russell
01-20-2009, 05:14 AM
David Izon, and Tua broke it. Watch the shots he took from Tua in their fight, and watch the way he breaks before the fight is stopped. Izon never stood up to shots like those again.

Ugh, perfect example.

I don't think the punch sponge strategy against Jefferson did him much favors either.

Jear
01-20-2009, 06:22 AM
Frazier against Ali I and Foreman I, Never able to perform the same afterwards, maybe his chin was too good for his own good

Bokaj
01-20-2009, 06:35 AM
It seems Max Baer was pretty much ruined by Louis. Ruddock stood up to too many punches for his own good. Frazier, although he didn't have a iron chin, was never quite the same after walking thorugh Ali's barrage in FOTC.

Battling Nelson is probably another example. Can't come to think of too many at lower weights. Of course, LaMotta didn't accomplish much after his last fight with Robinson, did he?

Mendoza
01-20-2009, 07:07 AM
Careers.

Certain fighters simply took beatings that ended their careers as opposed to taking punishment and coming back to win.

Pinklon Thomas against Bowe, Holyfield and Tyson, for example.

Also, Bowe.

I saw a young Tommy Morrsion blow Thomas out in one round. I'll never forget the cut, Morrison shaved Thomas eyebrow off. Pinky went south fast.

Russell
01-20-2009, 08:04 AM
I saw a young Tommy Morrsion blow Thomas out in one round. I'll never forget the cut, Morrison shaved Thomas eyebrow off. Pinky went south fast.

Thomas hit the hard drugs just as badly as any 80's fighter, which is saying a lot.

His performance against Holyfield is one of the most depressing fights I've ever seen. :verysad

Bo Bo Olson
01-20-2009, 08:25 AM
Early in a career, the punch is coming and the man normally can move a bit with it, taking off a touch of steam.
Later in the career the punch comes and due to lack of reflex the chin is not moving away from the punch even a little bit, compaired to before.

smitty_son408
01-20-2009, 09:14 AM
Maybe Tommy Hearns.

Not that he suffered a KO every time, but it is the consensus that if he got clipped soundly on the chin, he was a done deal.

stays on his feet against SRL and he is top 15 easy