What is the Most Tragic Story of Boxing??

[JLightningFys]

The stories of the Would've, Could've, or Should've's!!!!!!!!!


I think the story of Gerrald McClellan is a very tragic one that most people in boxing should hear about.

[smoochp]

When I seen that Joe Louis Doc on HBO that shit was sad. Meldrick Taylor, and McClellan

[klion22]

Not really "tragic" but i feel bad for JMM. He's just as good, if not better, than the likes of Pacman, Barrerra, and Morales. But his popularity and career earnings are so far below them.

He outboxed Pacman in both figths. I liked what he said about his first fight, "I got KD the first 3 rounds and outboxed him the next 11 rounds. I felt i should've gotten the win based on that." And i think that is a legit claim.

[Hatesrats]

Billy Collins Jr.
(Nothing beats that)

P.S. Panama Lewis Eat a D..K!
Like I said before, His Mom should have swallowed him
Or his Daddy's should have buste'd him off in the sheets.

[Rilz]

Billy Collins Jr.
(Nothing beats that)

P.S. Panama Lewis Eat a D..K!
Like I said before, His Mom should have swallowed him
Or his Daddy's should have buste'd him off in the sheets.\


wow

[Thread Stealer]

Besides the ring deaths, what happened to guys like Sam Langford, Jimmy Bivins, and Jimmy Wilde are very sad.

[aliboomaye]

Billy Collins obviously - but he didn't lose his life in the ring.
Personally I say Johnny Owen - the Merthyr Matchstick.

[aliboomaye]

tyson gettin locked up for rape.

He was found guilty?! That's not tragic, that's stupidity! :huh Same with Ike "Ibeatahootchie" Ibeabuchi

[jimmie]

I wouldnt call G-Man tragic. The guy tourtured aminals so as far as im concerned karma got his ass.

[Boom_Boom]

Not really "tragic" but i feel bad for JMM. He's just as good, if not better, than the likes of Pacman, Barrerra, and Morales. But his popularity and career earnings are so far below them.

He outboxed Pacman in both figths. I liked what he said about his first fight, "I got KD the first 3 rounds and outboxed him the next 11 rounds. I felt i should've gotten the win based on that." And i think that is a legit claim.

11 rounds :rofl :rofl :rofl

[eze]

He was found guilty?! That's not tragic, that's stupidity! :huh Same with Ike "Ibeatahootchie" Ibeabuchi


Tyson made a comment while in jail about the rape. I forgot how it went but to me why say it if guilty?




Also



"In a 17-page motion filed with the Indiana Court of Appeals, Tyson said that Washington falsely accused Wayne Walker, a high school friend and classmate in Coventry, Rhode Island, of raping her in October, 1989.

Walker, who is White, said in his affidavit: "Desiree Washington and I were friends in high school. I was on the football team and she was a cheerleader. (In October 1989) ...her father, Donald Washington, called my house. He was very agitated, and he said that Desiree had told him that I raped her. He threatened to go to the police, but my mother and I persuaded him that it wasn't true. The police were never called. "The following school day, I cornered Desiree during "passing time" at school. I said, |Why the ... did you tell your father that I raped you?" She said, "I had to say something to cover myself ...or I would have been in big trouble.' I said, |Why the hell did you have to tell him that? Couldn't you tell him something else?'""

[Grant1]

Wouldn't like to say what the saddest of all is, however Johnny Owen is a sad one indeed.

Although Lupor Pinter is a top man too.

[Boom_Boom]

Deuk Koo Kim

[Miles5149]

I think Mike Tyson's story is filled with Would'ves and Could'ves.

[dangerousity]

Not really "tragic" but i feel bad for JMM. He's just as good, if not better, than the likes of Pacman, Barrerra, and Morales. But his popularity and career earnings are so far below them.

He outboxed Pacman in both figths. I liked what he said about his first fight, "I got KD the first 3 rounds and outboxed him the next 11 rounds. I felt i should've gotten the win based on that." And i think that is a legit claim.

Considering Pac outlanded him by double the jabs & powerpunches in the 2nd round, him claiming he outboxed Pac for next 11 rounds is pretty damm stupid and makes the whole statement void. As it is, him outboxing Pac for 11, or even 7 rounds is subjective and arguable amongst the judges, media and fans. Pac putting him on his ass 3* is not.

As for the thread, having watched the Deuk koo kim film, I would probably say him. Dont know how much of the film is true but for a guy to come out of poverty and realise his dream, only to die cos of what made him achieve that dream in the first place (courage) is quite ironic and sad.

[truewarrior]

Salvador Sanchez....He could have been an ATG for sure its too bad he never had a chance. R.I.P.

[jimmie]

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Gerald McClellan, who is a sporting hero to many, bred, trained and made pitbulls fight for many years of his life. To ‘train' his pitbulls he reportedly got dogs, cats and other animals from pet shops and animal rescue centres and threw them in with his pitbulls.

'Rescued' dogs had their muzzles taped shut as well as having their paws tied together so they couldn't defend themselves and therefore harm Gerald McClellan's precious pitbulls. Gerald McClellan would set one of his dogs on his victims and he also used to video himself carrying out this extreme cruelty.

Gerald McClellan watched the videotapes in his dressing room before a fight to "get his blood up," and it is reported that his cousin said of him: "Gerald likes killin' things."

Thankyou for that link now I can stick up when I hear how sad it is what happened to him. I find it damn humerous honestly.

[maracho]

-Oscar falling to the dark side has been a hot topic thats effected a lot of fighters and fans.

-James Toney, Roy Jones, and Shane Mosley using steroids is pretty sad news

-Multiple robberies of Sweat Pea and Glen Johnson is real sad

-deaths in the ring are probably the saddest to me

[TommyV]

What happened to Johnny Owen was very sad indeed as a couple of others have mentioned, simply because he gave so much in the fight and was 25 seconds away from the end before he got layed out, he was the most fragile looking man you would ever see and to see him fall like that you just knew he was gone there and then. Still upsets me a bit when I watch it even now.

[Napoleon]

Tyson made a comment while in jail about the rape. I forgot how it went but to me why say it if guilty?




Also



"In a 17-page motion filed with the Indiana Court of Appeals, Tyson said that Washington falsely accused Wayne Walker, a high school friend and classmate in Coventry, Rhode Island, of raping her in October, 1989.

Walker, who is White, said in his affidavit: "Desiree Washington and I were friends in high school. I was on the football team and she was a cheerleader. (In October 1989) ...her father, Donald Washington, called my house. He was very agitated, and he said that Desiree had told him that I raped her. He threatened to go to the police, but my mother and I persuaded him that it wasn't true. The police were never called. "The following school day, I cornered Desiree during "passing time" at school. I said, |Why the ... did you tell your father that I raped you?" She said, "I had to say something to cover myself ...or I would have been in big trouble.' I said, |Why the hell did you have to tell him that? Couldn't you tell him something else?'""

Mike said "He called me a rapist and a recluse, I am not a recluse."

[Arriba]

The funniest Tyson quote is the one he dropped years later where he said something like "I wish I would've raped that bitch."

It was the ultimate WTF moment in a ton of WTF moments for Iron Mike.

[eze]

Mike said "He called me a rapist and a recluse, I am not a recluse."


He said something was before that along the lines of...
(Found the quote)


"No, I didn't rape that slimy [expletive]," wire reports of the interview quote him as saying. He called Washington, then an 18-year-old beauty pageant contestant, "a lying, monstrous young lady" and said he hates her guts. "She put me in that state where now I really do want to rape her and her mama."

[eze]

:yikes :patsch :rofl



6 Years in jail for not doing it.


Something I would of said.

[maracho]

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Gerald McClellan, who is a sporting hero to many, bred, trained and made pitbulls fight for many years of his life. To ‘train' his pitbulls he reportedly got dogs, cats and other animals from pet shops and animal rescue centres and threw them in with his pitbulls.

'Rescued' dogs had their muzzles taped shut as well as having their paws tied together so they couldn't defend themselves and therefore harm Gerald McClellan's precious pitbulls. Gerald McClellan would set one of his dogs on his victims and he also used to video himself carrying out this extreme cruelty.

Gerald McClellan watched the videotapes in his dressing room before a fight to "get his blood up," and it is reported that his cousin said of him: "Gerald likes killin' things."

Wow sheesh what goes around truly comes back around.

[Arriba]

[quote=eze]He said something was before that along the lines of...
(Found the quote)


"No, I didn't rape that slimy [expletive]," wire reports of the interview quote him as saying. He called Washington, then an 18-year-old beauty pageant contestant, "a lying, monstrous young lady" and said he hates her guts. "She put me in that state where now I really do want to rape her and her mama."


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Mike Tyson always one for words.

[TommyV]

It's take something special to top 'I want to eat his children' but Michael Tyson has done it again. :D

[columbo man]

ANY BOXER WHO GETS A SERIOUS INJURY OR LOSES THEIR LIFE IN THE RING IS TRAGIC, FIGHTERS FAILING TO WIN TITLES OR LOSING BY A 1ST RD KO FOR EXAMPLE ARE NOTHING COMPARED TO THE FIRST TWO THINGS.:thumbsup

[mattress]

Billy Flynn, an ex box champion, is now horse trainer in Hialeah. He makes just enough money to raise his little boy T.J. over which he got custody after his wife Annie left him seven years ago. T.J. worships The Champ who is now working on his come-back in order to give his boy a better future. But suddenly Annie shows up again ...

[mattress]

Johnny Owen, tragic story.

Good documentary on youtube, Johnny Owen : The Long Journey.

[Thread Stealer]

Randy Turpin

[Lacyace]

Yeah, it has to be G-Man. The guy is really in a state of hell right now.

[Bigcat]

Kid Akeem Anifawoshe.. Las Vegas tragedy.. Kid boxed against Robert Quiroga, and the fight was so ferocious that both men close to death after the bout, Akeem fell Ill and later returned to Poverty in his native Nigeria, he sought the help of his shamen or witch doctor who gave him some kind of cleansing or religious blood transfusion to make Anifawoshe better, Akeem lost gallons of blood in the brutal ceremonial cleansing and died .. Anifawoshe was a popular guy in Las Vegas but often slept on the streets and in doorways , he never had money , he was living amongst bizarr luxury in absolute poverty.

[1stcontact]

Michael Watson - will never be the same again but he completed the london marathon a few years back which shows how far he has come since his injury

[Thread Stealer]

Quiroga as i recall ,was murdered a few years later after the Kid Akeem fight.

Yeah, he was stabbed to death by a member of a Biker gang.

Anifowoshe's death was described as a "brain injury". Probably related to the fight with Quiroga, but some rumors have said he was trying to box again in Nigeria.

[Bigcat]

Anifawoshes death was due to numerous infections following the visit to his witch doctor...... his brain was starved when pints of blood were removed from his body .. a very odd carry on..

[Borincano]

Kid Akeem Anifawoshe.. Las Vegas tragedy.. Kid boxed against Robert Quiroga, and the fight was so ferocious that both men close to death after the bout, Akeem fell Ill and later returned to Poverty in his native Nigeria, he sought the help of his shamen or witch doctor who gave him some kind of cleansing or religious blood transfusion to make Anifawoshe better, Akeem lost gallons of blood in the brutal ceremonial cleansing and died .. Anifawoshe was a popular guy in Las Vegas but often slept on the streets and in doorways , he never had money , he was living amongst bizarr luxury in absolute poverty.

Wow, I remember him and how good he was. He was pushed too fast to fight Quiroga who was a hell of a champion. He fainted in the ring. He tried to make a comeback and I believe a tue-up fight, he fainted int he shower to never wake-up. This is what I remember. I don't see how he could have gone back to poverty after a fight like that, but I do remember that he could not fight again due to the damage of the title fight. Poilitics....they should have taken care of him with any job instead of letting him back to poverty???

Collins, Jr.
Jimmy Garcia...Gabriel Ruelas fight.

[Fighting Weight]

The funniest Tyson quote is the one he dropped years later where he said something like "I wish I would've raped that bitch."

It was the ultimate WTF moment in a ton of WTF moments for Iron Mike.

Also in the first press conference after he was accused Don King whipped up an hour long tirade about how Tyson was really a decent human being and no way did he rape the girl, she went with him at 2am etc etc etc....after the conference was finished and Tyson thought the cameras and microphones were turned off he turned to his friend, not sure of his first name but his surname is Horne...and he said "I should have killed the bitch" :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

The cameras and microphones weren't turned off, incidentally and I think Greg Garrison used that as a stick to beat him with during the trial. If only Tyson could have learnt to keep his trap shut....

[Mohak]

Turpin and Langford

[Fighting Weight]

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Gerald McClellan, who is a sporting hero to many, bred, trained and made pitbulls fight for many years of his life. To ‘train' his pitbulls he reportedly got dogs, cats and other animals from pet shops and animal rescue centres and threw them in with his pitbulls.

'Rescued' dogs had their muzzles taped shut as well as having their paws tied together so they couldn't defend themselves and therefore harm Gerald McClellan's precious pitbulls. Gerald McClellan would set one of his dogs on his victims and he also used to video himself carrying out this extreme cruelty.

Gerald McClellan watched the videotapes in his dressing room before a fight to "get his blood up," and it is reported that his cousin said of him: "Gerald likes killin' things."

Which is why I take great delight in thinking of him how he is now, sitting in a world of darkness in a pile of his own shit, wondering how long he's got to wait before he descends into hell :yep

Fuck McClellan. If I were the Queen I'd give Nigel Benn a knighthood on general principle.

[smoochp]

Tyson didnt rape tht girl. If a girl called me into a room at 2 AM, I know she doesnt want to just sit and chill. If anyone thinks that shit is crazy or you know

[Fighting Weight]

Tyson didnt rape tht girl. If a girl called me into a room at 2 AM, I know she doesnt want to just sit and chill. If anyone thinks that shit is crazy or you know

I suggest you read up on the case. She didn't call him into a hotel room at 2am it was the other way round. What happened inside that hotel room I suspect we'll never know, but Tyson was a moron for setting himself up for that to be honest, whether he actually raped her or not.

[smoochp]

I suggest you read up on the case. She didn't call him into a hotel room at 2am it was the other way round. What happened inside that hotel room I suspect we'll never know, but Tyson was a moron for setting himself up for that to be honest, whether he actually raped her or not.
I know it wasnt 2 AM, but it was late I was being sarcastic. Even if Mike called her she knew what was up. Either she was slow or she wanted money. After that you never heard about her again. Shit you still here about Ronald Goldman

[Arriba]

I know it wasnt 2 AM, but it was late I was being sarcastic. Even if Mike called her she knew what was up. Either she was slow or she wanted money. After that you never heard about her again. Shit you still here about Ronald Goldman

His point remains the same though. Mike fucked up..and set himself up for that sort of trail. It doesn't help that he made himself a lot of enemies with his alignment with Robin Givens (claiming that Mike was abusivee and what not), Teddy Atlas (who claimed that Mike had a history of women problems dating back to his teens), Don King and what not.

Mike should've picked his tang more carefully.

[smoochp]

Mike should've picked his tang more carefully.
You are right about that

[Fighting Weight]

I know it wasnt 2 AM, but it was late I was being sarcastic. Even if Mike called her she knew what was up. Either she was slow or she wanted money. After that you never heard about her again. Shit you still here about Ronald Goldman

It actually was 2am, that wasn't my point. My point was that it was definately Tyson that called her, and Tyson that enticed her into that hotel room. Whether she wanted sex or not is the question.

Funnily enough I always thought Tyson was railroaded in that one too until I read Gregory Garrisons book recently, now I'm not so sure. He may just be the rapist he was accused of being for all I know. As I said before though the only two people that know the truth are Tyson and Washington. Your statement about her not being heard of again afterwards doesn't exactly fit the description of a gold-digger though does it? If she'd been just after the green then surely she'd be a regular on the talk shows?

[Fighting Weight]

His point remains the same though. Mike fucked up..and set himself up for that sort of trail. It doesn't help that he made himself a lot of enemies with his alignment with Robin Givens (claiming that Mike was abusivee and what not), Teddy Atlas (who claimed that Mike had a history of women problems dating back to his teens), Don King and what not.

Mike should've picked his tang more carefully.

He didn't exactly help himself by tellling Jose Torres that he liked to hurt women when he fucked them either. He told Torres that he enjoyed their pain and the fact that he could make them bleed.

The 'bleeding' proved extremely significant when the Washington case got to court and the prosecutor had certainly made sure he'd got the full dirty story off Torres who was then a Tyson enemy because Tyson banned all links with the old guard after he signed with King. Torres turned up to a Tyson training session before he fought Bruno the first time and was told in no uncertain terms that he wasn't welcome, and Tyson endorsed this. What a fucking moron Tyson was back then, and probably still is now.

[smoochp]

It actually was 2am, that wasn't my point. My point was that it was definately Tyson that called her, and Tyson that enticed her into that hotel room. Whether she wanted sex or not is the question.

Funnily enough I always thought Tyson was railroaded in that one too until I read Gregory Garrisons book recently, now I'm not so sure. He may just be the rapist he was accused of being for all I know. As I said before though the only two people that know the truth are Tyson and Washington. Your statement about her not being heard of again afterwards doesn't exactly fit the description of a gold-digger though does it? If she'd been just after the green then surely she'd be a regular on the talk shows?
I feel what u are saying, but I still on't think he rape that girl. But a funny thing is Tyson tried to talk to my mom at the Alladian in Vegas. She said his breath stanked. But back on the subject from his past history I can see why people will call him a rapist. But me being a man, if I called a girl at 2 am to come to my house. She knows what I'm on. You agree

[RingKing]

The day Gayfeather's fans disappeared with his balls, and haven't been seen since. No wonder poor Gayfeather doesn't want to face legitimate welters, he has no balls. Although you may want to check Pimp C's stomach because rumor has it that he swallowed them so he wouldn't have to share with the other nuthuggers.

[Arriba]

I feel what u are saying, but I still on't think he rape that girl. But a funny thing is Tyson tried to talk to my mom at the Alladian in Vegas. She said his breath stanked. But back on the subject from his past history I can see why people will call him a rapist. But me being a man, if I called a girl at 2 am to come to my house. She knows what I'm on. You agree

I think the majority of us don't think he raped that girl...it doesn't mean he didn't do it in the past and it doesn't mean he didn't get rough with her.

I just think she knew what he wanted and got more than she bargained for.

[Betty Swollocks]

ANY BOXER WHO GETS A SERIOUS INJURY OR LOSES THEIR LIFE IN THE RING IS TRAGIC, FIGHTERS FAILING TO WIN TITLES OR LOSING BY A 1ST RD KO FOR EXAMPLE ARE NOTHING COMPARED TO THE FIRST TWO THINGS.:thumbsup

yeah exactly, and you get some on here saying Tyson is the most tragic boxing story because he couldn't stop himself from abusing women, or that so and so got robbed a couple of times.
:patsch

[Scar]

Meldrick Taylor.

[jecxbox]

What some of you are saying about G-Man is ridiculous. Someone like that sure deserved to rot in a prison for the shit that he did, but no one deserves to be beaten mentally retarded and live in a dark senseless world like he has all his life. I understand the bitterness, but I think G-man's fucked up situation is beyond "even".

[Farmboxer]

Horrible story is Don King and the criminal element.

[Carlos Primera]

the ring magazine wrote a nice article recapping bobby chacon's career and tribulations. i'd probably go with chacon. tyson's life is sort of tragic too, but he's still a millionaire, as far as i'm concerned mike still has it made.

[boxeo#1]

There is not a single most tragic story, there are several.

[ninebar]

Mike Tyson's shit is no tragedy he had a history of messing about with young girls so i find it hard to have any sympathy for him whether or not he raped that girl, Cus D'Mato knew what he was doing and turned a blind eye because Mike was the future Heavyweight champion so 6 years feels very much like karma to me.
The real tragedy in boxing is all the people who are seriously hurt or lose their live's and the family's who have to live with the aftermath.

[ThePlugInBabies]

What some of you are saying about G-Man is ridiculous. Someone like that sure deserved to rot in a prison for the shit that he did, but no one deserves to be beaten mentally retarded and live in a dark senseless world like he has all his life. I understand the bitterness, but I think G-man's fucked up situation is beyond "even".

he does not deserve mentioning in a thread like this. there are countless stories about better men in the sport who have ended up exactly the same or even worse off.

there are people out there much more deserving of our sympathy than him.

he chose to live his life the way he did, he chose to be the bully in life and commit those dreadful acts. problem is, you live your life by those rules and one day you'll run into someone bigger and badder than you, he did and he paid.

[kremb]

How about this one?

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Holyfield $10M Atlanta home in foreclosure.

[Shaolin Box]

As some have posted above, the G-man's story is tragic.

[Maxmomer]

Stanley Ketchel getting shot in the back when he was just 24, Greb died when he was only in his early 30's.

[RUSKULL]

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Gerald McClellan, who is a sporting hero to many, bred, trained and made pitbulls fight for many years of his life. To ‘train' his pitbulls he reportedly got dogs, cats and other animals from pet shops and animal rescue centres and threw them in with his pitbulls.

'Rescued' dogs had their muzzles taped shut as well as having their paws tied together so they couldn't defend themselves and therefore harm Gerald McClellan's precious pitbulls. Gerald McClellan would set one of his dogs on his victims and he also used to video himself carrying out this extreme cruelty.

Gerald McClellan watched the videotapes in his dressing room before a fight to "get his blood up," and it is reported that his cousin said of him: "Gerald likes killin' things."

Gerald was a human piece of shit.

[Thread Stealer]

How about this one?

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Holyfield $10M Atlanta home in foreclosure.

That's more unfortunate, and foolish on Holyfield's part.

I consider tragedies to be fights likes Collins-Resto, Quiroga-Anifowoshe, Mancini-Kim, etc....Ring deaths or cases where guys are handicapped afterwards. Or cases like Jimmy Wilde or Randy Turpin when there careers are done.

[shavers]

evander holyfield

[shavers]

McClellan was atotal asshole, regarding his current status all you can say is, what comes around, goes around....

[teeto]

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Gerald McClellan, who is a sporting hero to many, bred, trained and made pitbulls fight for many years of his life. To ‘train' his pitbulls he reportedly got dogs, cats and other animals from pet shops and animal rescue centres and threw them in with his pitbulls.

'Rescued' dogs had their muzzles taped shut as well as having their paws tied together so they couldn't defend themselves and therefore harm Gerald McClellan's precious pitbulls. Gerald McClellan would set one of his dogs on his victims and he also used to video himself carrying out this extreme cruelty.

Gerald McClellan watched the videotapes in his dressing room before a fight to "get his blood up," and it is reported that his cousin said of him: "Gerald likes killin' things."
I never knew this , if its true then im sorry this man got what he deserves. I have a pitbull and its 5 years old, friendliesy dog you would ever meet, im from Liverpool, pits r illegal here, and a pitbull killd a young giirl here a bit ago, the police were taking pits off people left right and centre for a while, and i had to keep mine indoors for a bit. All cos some bad arsehole trained his dog to be a killa because of sum bullsht fashion trend that happens with pitbulls.

L**** i said, if your post is true then he was a bastad

[RUSKULL]

McClellan was atotal asshole, regarding his current status all you can say is, what comes around, goes around....

Exactly.

[bigeddie27]

Thankyou for that link now I can stick up when I hear how sad it is what happened to him. I find it damn humerous honestly.
yeah but cmon man, id rather someon torture an animal rather than be paralyzed his whole life. an animal aint no human. now if he tortued humans I would agree with you , but like i said, you are getting riled up over nothing. Shit, look how many people in the ghetto or 3rd world countries have dog fights, or cock fights, or other shit with animals. Basically what you are saying is that if you had a chance to bring back all those animals or have gman stay paralyzed - you would leave gman paralyzed. thats fucked up dude. humans> animals, we eat them for christs sake. Not saying torturing animals is cool though, far from it.

[bigeddie27]

Exactly.
what the fuck is wrong with you people. so because someone is an asshole they deserve to be paralyzed , wtf? I mean did this guy ever really paralyze another person? did he commit any crimes against someone that i dont know about? You wanna know who really deserves to be paralyzed - ike ibeabuchi. that fucker ran some kid over when he tried to kill himself leaving that kid crippled for life. Tell me where or when in gman's life he did some shit like this or worse. please.

[ThePlugInBabies]

what the fuck is wrong with you people. so because someone is an asshole they deserve to be paralyzed , wtf? I mean did this guy ever really paralyze another person? did he commit any crimes against someone that i dont know about? You wanna know who really deserves to be paralyzed - ike ibeabuchi. that fucker ran some kid over when he tried to kill himself leaving that kid crippled for life. Tell me where or when in gman's life he did some shit like this or worse. please.

the way that piece of shit lived who knows what he could have managed in the end.

live by the sword, die by the sword.

[Shaolin Box]

what the fuck is wrong with you people. so because someone is an asshole they deserve to be paralyzed , wtf? I mean did this guy ever really paralyze another person? did he commit any crimes against someone that i dont know about? You wanna know who really deserves to be paralyzed - ike ibeabuchi. that fucker ran some kid over when he tried to kill himself leaving that kid crippled for life. Tell me where or when in gman's life he did some shit like this or worse. please.

:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy

THANK YOU!

[Thread Stealer]

what the fuck is wrong with you people. so because someone is an asshole they deserve to be paralyzed , wtf? I mean did this guy ever really paralyze another person? did he commit any crimes against someone that i dont know about? You wanna know who really deserves to be paralyzed - ike ibeabuchi. that fucker ran some kid over when he tried to kill himself leaving that kid crippled for life. Tell me where or when in gman's life he did some shit like this or worse. please.

Ike Ibeabuchi.

G-Man did some terrible things, but of the things we know of, fighters such as Tony Ayala, Jake LaMotta, Jo-El Scott, James Scott, James Butler, etc....are more deserving of such as terrible fate than G-Man.

[bigeddie27]

the way that piece of shit lived who knows what he could have managed in the end.

live by the sword, die by the sword.

Yeah but 'living by the sword, dying by the sword' would imply that he got paralyzed in doing some criminal shit. in other words, that saying would make sense if gman was robbing someone at gunpoint and got shot by the person getting robbed leaving the gman paralyzed. just nitpicking thats all i get your point though. The fact remains is that we dont know if gman did some criminal shit back in his day besides torturing animals, its all kind of speculation.

[heehoo]

Ernie Schaaf dying in the ring after suffering a TKO in the 15th round against Primo Carnera. Many people felt that Schaaf had suffered prior damage in his previous fight against Max Baer

Frankie Campbell dying a day after his fight with Max Baer.

Kim Deuk Koo collapsing after suffering a TKO loss to Ray Mancini and dying 4 days later in a Las Vegas hospital. Koo's mother and the referee of the fight, Richard Green, would commit suicide.

"Kid" Akeem Anifowoshe collapsing after his legendary fight with Robort Quiroga. Anifowoshe died three years after that fight. His death is widely believe to have been as a reult of the blood clot that formed in his brain during his fight with Quiroga. Ten years after Anifowoshe's death, Quiroga was stabbed to death by a member of a motorcycle gang.

Cleveland Denny dying sixteen days after his fight with Gaetan Hart.

Gerald McClellan suffering massive brain damage in his fight against Nigel Benn. He is blind, can barely speak, can barely hear, and has trouble walking and being on his own for any extended period of time.

Greg Page collapsing into a coma and coming out of it with the entire left side of his body paralyzed as a result of his fight with Dale Crowe. He suffered numerous complications because of this, and the complications eventually were responsible for his death recently.

Walter Croot dying at the hands of undefeated paperweight champion Jimmy Barry, after a Croot supporter yelled the following at Croot "Come on Walter Lad! The bloomin' American can't win unless he knocks you dead!" Barry proceeded to knock Croot down with a vicious right. As Croot fell to the canvas, hie hit his head so hard he cracked open his skull. Croot died later that night.

Charles "Kid" McCoy killing a woman he was living with, then later taking his own life.

[Jai C]

[quote=eze]He said something was before that along the lines of...
(Found the quote)


"No, I didn't rape that slimy [expletive]," wire reports of the interview quote him as saying. He called Washington, then an 18-year-old beauty pageant contestant, "a lying, monstrous young lady" and said he hates her guts. "She put me in that state where now I really do want to rape her and her mama."


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Mike Tyson always one for words.
The sad part about this is the woman admitted that she lied about the rape and they still didn't release Mike.:verysad:verysad

[madkillaz692000]

[quote=eze]He said something was before that along the lines of...
(Found the quote)


"No, I didn't rape that slimy [expletive]," wire reports of the interview quote him as saying. He called Washington, then an 18-year-old beauty pageant contestant, "a lying, monstrous young lady" and said he hates her guts. "She put me in that state where now I really do want to rape her and her mama."


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Mike Tyson always one for words.

Some of Mike's words were already classic.:lol:

[hmm]

Deuk Koo Kim

hmm says.... dude dies in the hospital after the fight, his mother commits suicide afterward out of grief, then the ref commits suicide from guilt of not stopping the fight, then Boom Boom Mancini is guilt stricken and hesitate to return to the ring.

or

the 7 people Pac killed, via heart-attack, from the Pac-Hatton fight.

[Kaki]

Gerald was a human piece of shit.

you aren't fit to eat his shit.

anyway, I can't trust fucking british tabloid media. The fact that numerous british sporting sites, and only British ones, keep publishing articles describing that aspect of G-Man tells me a lot about these fools. To quote a poster: "they need an excuse to savor the win because they know what happened" Now you got stupid fools like Ruskull running around, who probably never ever heard of this man before and never watched any of his fights, shamelessly labeling him as a piece of shit, guy's a retard.

[C.J.]

what the fuck is wrong with you people. so because someone is an asshole they deserve to be paralyzed , wtf? I mean did this guy ever really paralyze another person? did he commit any crimes against someone that i dont know about? You wanna know who really deserves to be paralyzed - ike ibeabuchi. that fucker ran some kid over when he tried to kill himself leaving that kid crippled for life. Tell me where or when in gman's life he did some shit like this or worse. please.


This is total BS Before accusing someone know the facts. Ike didnt "run over that kid" at all

[Kid Cuba]

The fall of the all powerful Heavyweight division.

[FrochPascal]

I wouldnt call G-Man tragic. The guy tourtured aminals so as far as im concerned karma got his ass.

you sicko. If he did bad to animals its bad...but you compare an animal life to a human life...your sick

[catasyou]

Joe Louis.

[ryanty22]

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billy collins story is the most tragic for my money, and as far as im concerned margo is no better than panama lewis and luis resto after plastergate

[safc1990]

I suggest you read up on the case. She didn't call him into a hotel room at 2am it was the other way round. What happened inside that hotel room I suspect we'll never know, but Tyson was a moron for setting himself up for that to be honest, whether he actually raped her or not.

There's only one man's opinion we need to hear on this :yep

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[Leprikawn7]

The one thing that always struck with me from the Tyson case was her testimoney that he attacked her and she asked if she could use the bathroom......she said he let her. She said she sat in the bathroom thinking "Oh mY God what am i going to do?" and when she left the bathroom Tyson raped her!

But when I watched a documentary on the case years ago they said that there was a phone in the bathroom! If she really thought she was in danger why didnt she just pick it up and call the front desk or the police?

and why did Don King let a Tax attorney represent Mike in the case?

[JohnAkiBoa]

Story of Kassim Ouma always touches me...:verysad

What is Now going on with Kassim?

There are so many... Damn:-(

[madjabber]

Deuk Koo Kim
:deal

[HomicideHenry]

Joe Louis.........or..........Sam Langford, died blind and in poverty, he said of his boxing carrer 'I will always have my memories.'

[gungfu]

:deal

First thing that came to my mind. Some would argue that he should have had the smarts to quit and fight another day, but the fact the he carried on and ultimately to his death is both extremely tragic, and yet heroic. He literally gave up his life in trying to win. I think he actually wrote in his hotel bathroom mirror that he was going to win, or he was going to die trying. A true warrior.

What is even more tragic about the case is that the referee commited suicide later on. Whether it was because of the fight or not is debatable but it surely couldn't have helped as it was a big case at the time - in a time of public tv and not PPV.

I believe Kim also had a new born baby at the time as well, and his mother also committed suicide because of his death.

Truly a tragic story of boxing.

[Raider Rudy]

All those Brits who thought Hatton really had something!:|

[eze]

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Some of Mike's words were already classic.:lol:

Too true. Gotta love the photo they put up of Mike though with that quote.

[ripcity]

Robert Quiroga and Akeem Anifowoshe
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[jakelamotta]

Which is why I take great delight in thinking of him how he is now, sitting in a world of darkness in a pile of his own shit, wondering how long he's got to wait before he descends into hell :yep

Fuck McClellan. If I were the Queen I'd give Nigel Benn a knighthood on general principle.

You are a sick fuck. Whether or not he did that is one thing. Do you have the actual evidence? For you or anyone else to take pleasure in watching a human being in that state is just sick. It's a good thing you likely have no social pull or status in your pathetic life because you are a worthless idiot.:fire

[Babality]

Gerarld McClellan the animal abuser HAD IT COMING. Not saying I would wish that upon someone, but he had it coming.

[David UK]

I wouldnt call G-Man tragic. The guy tourtured aminals so as far as im concerned karma got his ass.

I agree. Don't go all misty eyed over a tosser like McClellan. His circumstances just go to prove what goes around comes around

[GazOC]

Wilfred Benitez is in a pretty poor state (to say the least)/

[jakelamotta]

I'm not saying I'm teary eyed over it but what are you people to say any human being should live in that condition. Who is to say its even true? What is your evidence, word of mouth? British tabloids?

If it is true that is terrible and people should be harshly punished by law for that animal cruelty. But you don't wish that condition on anyone, especially a man who steps in the ring.

You talk about what goes around comes around, karma, well what if your wrong about GM? what if its made up? Don't throw that pompous moralist bullshit with me buddy because I see right through it.

[Kaki]

I'm not saying I'm teary eyed over it but what are you people to say any human being should live in that condition. Who is to say its even true? What is your evidence, word of mouth? British tabloids?

If it is true that is terrible and people should be harshly punished by law for that animal cruelty. But you don't wish that condition on anyone, especially a man who steps in the ring.

You talk about what goes around comes around, karma, well what if your wrong about GM? what if its made up? Don't throw that pompous moralist bullshit with me buddy because I see right through it.

i'm skeptical. where else than in british tabloids have that part of G-Man's life been revealed?

[Fighting Weight]

You are a sick fuck. Whether or not he did that is one thing. Do you have the actual evidence? For you or anyone else to take pleasure in watching a human being in that state is just sick. It's a good thing you likely have no social pull or status in your pathetic life because you are a worthless idiot.:fire

The evidence is out there for all to see. I felt sorry for McClellan after the fight because I had no knowledge of how he conducted himself outside of the ring, and then the stories started to come out. The stories weren't from British tabloids at all, they were from America, and usually from people that were close to the guy. Let me ask you something, if he was such a good human being then why would these people piss on him AFTER his injuries occured?

I've got plenty of sympathy in me for fighters that hit hard times or suffer injuries due to the nature of the sport but in the case of McClellan I rejoice in the fact that maybe there is a god out there somewhere because that sick, twisted motherfucker deserved all he got, and he's still suffering right now while I sit here happy as a sandboy thinking about the low-life classless piece of shit.

I'll reserve my sympathy for deserving cases thanks, sub-human individuals like Gerald McClellan can go fuck themselves. As I said before, all this and he's still got hell to look forward to :yep:yep:yep

[gungfu]

you aren't fit to eat his shit.

anyway, I can't trust fucking british tabloid media. The fact that numerous british sporting sites, and only British ones, keep publishing articles describing that aspect of G-Man tells me a lot about these fools. To quote a poster: "they need an excuse to savor the win because they know what happened" Now you got stupid fools like Ruskull running around, who probably never ever heard of this man before and never watched any of his fights, shamelessly labeling him as a piece of shit, guy's a retard.


The stories about the G-Man are true. And it doesn't come from some UK tabloid but from the respected Guardian/Observer newspaper.

Here's the links to the article. I strongly urge people who have never read it, or do not know about the Benn fight, or knew who McClellan was outside of the ring, to read it. It's a long article, but trust me, it's an absolutely riveting read.

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Yeah, Gerald he had some companionship about this particular dog. He'd raised this dog, and this dog, he'd killed a few. This fucking guy, man, once his dog lost a fight and he was $7,000 down. He turns around, he looks at me, and the other guy says, "Hey, you want to wash your dog off before you put him in your truck?" Gerald just pulls a nine-millimetre out of his back pocket, aims it at the dog's head, busts a cap to the dog's head, and says, "Put that motherfucker in a plastic bag. I don't need 'em if they can't fight no better than that. I don't need no motherfuckin' dog that can't fight." This the kinda guy he was...'


Ok, one can say Gerald McClellan was a dog killing bastard, but he does not deserve to be in the condition he is in because of it, in my opinion.
People can change and redeem themselves to do good, worthwhile things, make up for past mistakes - McClellan doesn't have that luxury in the consition he is in now. So, I'm one for cutting the dude some slack.

I know others might not think the same, and your judgement is as valid as mine, but so be it.

[Kaki]

The evidence is out there for all to see. I felt sorry for McClellan after the fight because I had no knowledge of how he conducted himself outside of the ring, and then the stories started to come out. The stories weren't from British tabloids at all, they were from America, and usually from people that were close to the guy. Let me ask you something, if he was such a good human being then why would these people piss on him AFTER his injuries occured?

I've got plenty of sympathy in me for fighters that hit hard times or suffer injuries due to the nature of the sport but in the case of McClellan I rejoice in the fact that maybe there is a god out there somewhere because that sick, twisted motherfucker deserved all he got, and he's still suffering right now while I sit here happy as a sandboy thinking about the low-life classless piece of shit.

I'll reserve my sympathy for deserving cases thanks, sub-human individuals like Gerald McClellan can go fuck themselves. As I said before, all this and he's still got hell to look forward to :yep:yep:yep

you talk of g-man as if he's some kind of hitler. i don't think anybody deserves to be in such a pathetic state.

[Fighting Weight]

The stories about the G-Man are true. And it doesn't come from some UK tabloid but from the respected Guardian/Observer newspaper.

Here's the links to the article. I strongly urge people who have never read it, or do not know about the Benn fight, or knew who McClellan was outside of the ring, to read it. It's a long article, but trust me, it's an absolutely riveting read.

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Yeah, Gerald he had some companionship about this particular dog. He'd raised this dog, and this dog, he'd killed a few. This fucking guy, man, once his dog lost a fight and he was $7,000 down. He turns around, he looks at me, and the other guy says, "Hey, you want to wash your dog off before you put him in your truck?" Gerald just pulls a nine-millimetre out of his back pocket, aims it at the dog's head, busts a cap to the dog's head, and says, "Put that motherfucker in a plastic bag. I don't need 'em if they can't fight no better than that. I don't need no motherfuckin' dog that can't fight." This the kinda guy he was...'


Ok, one can say Gerald McClellan was a dog killing bastard, but he does not deserve to be in the condition he is in because of it, in my opinion.
People can change and redeem themselves to do good, worthwhile things, make up for past mistakes - McClellan doesn't have that luxury in the consition he is in now. So, I'm one for cutting the dude some slack.

I know others might not think the same, and your judgement is as valid as mine, but so be it.

Cut him slack after that behaviour? That's the actions of a complete psychopath I'm afraid, and his family showed that they were no different with their attitude towards Benn after the fight.

The entire McClellan clan are human garbage, fuck them. Let them struggle and suffer, I take great amusement from it personally. If he wants to take issue with me then let him come to my house and tell me, I'll truss the motherfucker like he used to truss those innocent dogs he used to feed to his beloved pit-bulls, and then set fire to the blind cunt.

[Fighting Weight]

you talk of g-man as if he's some kind of hitler. i don't think anybody deserves to be in such a pathetic state.

Oh I do, and I take great pleasure in it. I hope he's reading this and slobbering with anger like a bitch at my nasty comments but I doubt he has the strength to even press the left button on a mouse these days. All hail and praise Nigel Benn :happy:happy:happy

[gungfu]

Cut him slack after that behaviour? That's the actions of a complete psychopath I'm afraid, and his family showed that they were no different with their attitude towards Benn after the fight.

The entire McClellan clan are human garbage, fuck them. Let them struggle and suffer, I take great amusement from it personally. If he wants to take issue with me then let him come to my house and tell me, I'll truss the motherfucker like he used to truss those innocent dogs he used to feed to his beloved pit-bulls, and then set fire to the blind cunt.


You might want to research how the McClellan family really feel about Benn before making assumptions or relying on dated information.

The hate you have for McClellan, do you feel the same for Roy Jones Jr and his fighting cocks? I'd very much like you to video your fight with him and post it here. Thanks.

[pipe wrenched]

Have not read the whole thread, but now that I have seen "Champion" showcasing the struggles and life Duek Kim led to get to his fatal fight with Mancini, all's I can say is got dayum. Terrible.

In that dudes gym, the coach would beat the WINNERS of tournaments with a big cane type of deal (like a slimmed down axe hande) for NOT WINNING GOOD ENOUGH!!! You don't want to see how the guys that did not win got treated.

It's no wonder Kim kept going until it killed him, when you see what type of mentality was engrained into him.

Shit was sad, for real.

[julianfoster88]

I wanna say the most tragic story of boxing for me has to be Billy Collins with Johnny Owen and Leavander Johnson being close behind it

[Fighting Weight]

You might want to research how the McClellan family really feel about Benn before making assumptions or relying on dated information.

The hate you have for McClellan, do you feel the same for Roy Jones Jr and his fighting cocks? I'd very much like you to video your fight with him and post it here. Thanks.

So they've changed their mind over the years have they? Of course they have....the moneys dried up :yep

I have the same animosity towards Jones regarding his animal cruelty record as I have towards McClellan actually, but at least Jones let his cocks fight fairly. I have yet to read a story about Jones feeding babies to his fighting cocks to feed on unlike McClellan with his pit bulls. If you have such a story then feel free to post it and I'll show the relevent disgust.

[gungfu]

So they've changed their mind over the years have they? Of course they have....the moneys dried up :yep

I have the same animosity towards Jones regarding his animal cruelty record as I have towards McClellan actually, but at least Jones let his cocks fight fairly. I have yet to read a story about Jones feeding babies to his fighting cocks to feed on unlike McClellan with his pit bulls. If you have such a story then feel free to post it and I'll show the relevent disgust.


Why should it in any way make any difference? They are both animal abusers. Period.

I like how you seem to have a difference of opinion between the two. This awkward stance of 'well, it depends', as if someone warrants a lesser level of judgement because of technicalities. What a piss poor attitude to have.

[Fighting Weight]

Why should it in any way make any difference? They are both animal abusers. Period.

I like how you seem to have a difference of opinion between the two. This awkward stance of 'well, it depends', as if someone warrants a lesser level of judgement because of technicalities. What a piss poor attitude to have.

It's not a piss poor attitude at all. Jones fought cocks but they were given a level playing field. It's still wrong and Jones is still scum for doing it but McClellan bought cats and puppies and rendered them defenceless and watched his pit bulls rip them apart.

There is a major difference there my friend, if you can't see it then fair enough, we'll agree to disagree and go our seperate ways. In my opinion McClellan is in hell because he deserves it, and I take great delight in it, you won't spoil my rejoicing whatever you say :happy:happy:happy:happy

[gungfu]

It's not a piss poor attitude at all. Jones fought cocks but they were given a level playing field. It's still wrong and Jones is still scum for doing it but McClellan bought cats and puppies and rendered them defenceless and watched his pit bulls rip them apart.

There is a major difference there my friend, if you can't see it then fair enough, we'll agree to disagree and go our seperate ways. In my opinion McClellan is in hell because he deserves it, and I take great delight in it, you won't spoil my rejoicing whatever you say :happy:happy:happy:happy


Very piss poor attitude...derived from different sets of rules and made depending on personal preference rather than overall objectivity.

[jakelamotta]

It's not a piss poor attitude at all. Jones fought cocks but they were given a level playing field. It's still wrong and Jones is still scum for doing it but McClellan bought cats and puppies and rendered them defenceless and watched his pit bulls rip them apart.

There is a major difference there my friend, if you can't see it then fair enough, we'll agree to disagree and go our seperate ways. In my opinion McClellan is in hell because he deserves it, and I take great delight in it, you won't spoil my rejoicing whatever you say :happy:happy:happy:happy
First, don't make those faggy smiley faces at me.

Second I HATE assholes that claim to have a moral high ground with nothing to back it up. Its guys like that who are usually most twisted in their personal lives buddy, i wonder what type of sicko you must be?

Third, taking pleasure in another man's pain you don't even know and then preaching about karma, etc. think about it. I hope you eat your own words and it comes back to you. We all know as boxing fans everything heard from the media does NOT mean its true. Whether or not the stories about GM are true its not for you to judge or take pleasure in another human being getting brain damaged in a boxing ring. Really its ignorant buffoon boxing fans that makes this sport suck even more than a Klitschko v Ibragimov fight at times.

Pathetic, absolutely pathetic.

[Farmboxer]

Void is the most tragic story of boxing.

[Clinton]

Salvador Sanchez....He could have been an ATG for sure its too bad he never had a chance. R.I.P.
He IS an ATG.