Roadwork today.

[Nigel_Benn]

I ran 6 miles today and 2 days ago the difference was today i felt alot more sluggish and gassed a bit earlier then before the temprature has risen and it is quite hot at the moment could that have an effect on stamina?

[viru§™]

I ran 6 miles today and 2 days ago the difference was today i felt alot more sluggish and gassed a bit earlier then before the temprature has risen and it is quite hot at the moment could that have an effect on stamina?

Higher temps you'll sweat more. More sweat, lower performance.

[goldenboy]

once your temperature rises it will effect performance!

[joekirkbycobra]

once your temperature rises it will effect performance!true

[salsanchezfan]

..............Hydration; before and during.

Actually, for a six-mile you shouldn't need to carry anything with you, but definitely before.

[Mohak]

..............Hydration; before and during.

Actually, for a six-mile you shouldn't need to carry anything with you, but definitely before.

How long before? Couple of hours?

[salsanchezfan]

How long before? Couple of hours?


..............Ideally, take in a little water thoughout the day as you lead up to it. I run at night/late afternoon typically, so while at work I'll sip on water all day, so that I don't feel the need to sit there 30 minutes before the run and chug a half a gallon of water.

If you do that, a couple moderate swigs of water before you head out should get you through the six miles or thereabouts just fine. As a rule, I don't bring anything to drink if the run is anything under ten miles. If it's an especially hot day I might, but no need otherwise.

[Mohak]

..............Ideally, take in a little water thoughout the day as you lead up to it. I run at night/late afternoon typically, so while at work I'll sip on water all day, so that I don't feel the need to sit there 30 minutes before the run and chug a half a gallon of water.

If you do that, a couple moderate swigs of water before you head out should get you through the six miles or thereabouts just fine. As a rule, I don't bring anything to drink if the run is anything under ten miles. If it's an especially hot day I might, but no need otherwise.

I mostly run during the mornings, I can't be bothered sitting around for 30 mins+ waiting for the water to work it's way through my body. So I drink like a fish before I sleep. Bad side is you piss like a water fountain in the mornings, and if someone get's to the toilet before you do then you're fucked!

[salsanchezfan]

I mostly run during the mornings, I can't be bothered sitting around for 30 mins+ waiting for the water to work it's way through my body. So I drink like a fish before I sleep. Bad side is you piss like a water fountain in the mornings, and if someone get's to the toilet before you do then you're fucked!


............The beauty of living alone, man. :lol:

If you've hydrated the night before you should be fine, just a couple swigs before you go and you should be okay.

[Nigel_Benn]

I always thought it was a rule of runners to carry water while there running?

[salsanchezfan]

I always thought it was a rule of runners to carry water while there running?


............Depends on the distance (and of course the heat). If it's a 20-miler, you bet I'll bring it along. If it's six, there's no need as long as you keep hydrated leading up to it.

That said, everyone's different. If you feel you need water or a sports drink for that, there's certainly nothing wrong with it. I'd recommend one of those hand-held bottles with the strap along the side of it. You can tighten it to the back of your hand, so you don't have to worry about gripping it as you run.

[Brighton bomber]

I mostly run during the mornings, I can't be bothered sitting around for 30 mins+ waiting for the water to work it's way through my body. So I drink like a fish before I sleep. Bad side is you piss like a water fountain in the mornings, and if someone get's to the toilet before you do then you're fucked!

I do the same, with the same consequences. :lol:

[dance'champ]

Hello,

This is natural.. Everything in life/boxing is based on a cycle.

For example, we train to fight then rest, fight then rest. All the while building our

stamina. We for instance do not have the same energy at the end of a work out as we did

in the beginning .

Here is the point: In terms of stamina, there is daily stamina, weekly and

monthly stamina. I tend to focus on the daily neglecting the rest. ( Rest)

If interested I got this idea from a book about 5 and 10K training.

Here is the title : 5K and 10K Training
By Brian Clarke

He gets scientific about rest/train cycles…


Hope this helps..

[spion]

Depending on your weight and running background running six miles is no easy task. Add to that the increase of temperature and it is quite a strain on the body. If you were not fully recovered from the run two days ago then you would tend to feel a bit sluggish. Couple that with the heat and it is even more likely. Put a little more time to recover from the six milers until you build up to that distance over a longer period of time and you will be okay. Also consider running at times when it is cooler.

[Nigel_Benn]

My weight is light and i have a good running background i have ran 10 miles in the past, I think im thinking to much and not showing enough confidence in my own endurance i did it twice last week and it was easy as they come but the temprature is rising so i do put it down to that how long does it take for the body to acclimitise and to be able to run the distances you did in the cold?

[salsanchezfan]

My weight is light and i have a good running background i have ran 10 miles in the past, I think im thinking to much and not showing enough confidence in my own endurance i did it twice last week and it was easy as they come but the temprature is rising so i do put it down to that how long does it take for the body to acclimitise and to be able to run the distances you did in the cold?


............"acclimatizing" only happens to a degree. More important is making adjustments.

When the temps rise, you heart has to beat faster, making fatigue set in sooner. I run everything from 5k's to marathons, and have always been aware that my best times in any given race are not in the summertime (well, except for maybe some good 5k's). The heat tires you out, no matter your preparedness.

You might consider running in the morning, when the heat is less a factor. Other than that, drink lots in the hous leading up to the run, and maybe carry some electrolyte replacement drink with you on your runs. It's not just water; you lose a ton of salts and electrolytes when you run, so in extended efforts (whatever that means to the individual), it's important to replace some of that as you go, or peformance will suffer.

There is one trick I've learned that could also help, though don't rely solely on this: make a "Badwater Bandanna." This was made famous in the Badwater ultramarathon, where you take a bandanna, wrap some ice cubes in it by rolling it up, and tie it around your neck with the icecubes resting on the back of your neck. You'd be surprised how much this cools you off.

[spion]

My weight is light and i have a good running background i have ran 10 miles in the past, I think im thinking to much and not showing enough confidence in my own endurance i did it twice last week and it was easy as they come but the temprature is rising so i do put it down to that how long does it take for the body to acclimitise and to be able to run the distances you did in the cold?


Everyone is different. When running in the cold the body is already generating heat from the action of running which also serves to warm the body. When running in heat, the body is not only genertaing heat from the action itself, but is trying to dispell the heat of the environment as well. If you HAVE TO run in the heat you should start off with distances shorter than six miles and allow your body to get used to the strain. Build gradually and listen to your body. Don't push in serious heat as you do more damage than good.

[Nigel_Benn]

I ran 12 miles today and i only felt gassed at about the 6-7 mile mark i did it in 1 hour and 28 mins.

[Brighton bomber]

I ran 12 miles today and i only felt gassed at about the 6-7 mile mark i did it in 1 hour and 28 mins.

Damn I'm impressed you almost did a half marathon. :good

[Nigel_Benn]

Salsa how good a time is that for 12 miles 1 hour and 28 mins? And in hot conditions.

[viru§™]

I thought you guys trained for boxing not long distance running?

[dmh1976]

I thought sprinting combined with running is more beneficial for boxing. Ofcourse when one includes sprints forget about marathon like distances!

Am I wrong here?

p.s. noticed today was harder indeed because of higher temperatures...

[viru§™]

I thought sprinting combined with running is more beneficial for boxing. Ofcourse when one includes sprints forget about marathon like distances!

Am I wrong here?


Pretty much why I don't understand people running 12 miles. I'd say 5 miles is the very max needed probably not even that.

[salsanchezfan]

Salsa how good a time is that for 12 miles 1 hour and 28 mins? And in hot conditions.


..............Superb! Very fast indeed.

[RDJ]

Pretty much why I don't understand people running 12 miles. I'd say 5 miles is the very max needed probably not even that.

That makes no sense to me either. My roadwork (NOT running) distance is between 3.5 and 4 miles. I run large parts of it sideways and backwards, changing direction as often as possible. I also stop a few times for things like pushups, shadowboxing, etc. I end it with a few short sprints.

Running never gave me anything, except bum knees. The way I do it now has already given me increased mobility in the ring.

[Brighton bomber]

Pretty much why I don't understand people running 12 miles. I'd say 5 miles is the very max needed probably not even that.

That is the conventional belief but Trinidad ran marathons and he was noted as having great stamina and often overwhelmed fighters late on. Hopkins is another fighter who has good stamina and ran a lot more than most fighters.

[Nigel_Benn]

Nigel Benn,JMM,JCC and Kelly Pavlik all used to and in pavliks case still run 12 miles in high altidude when you run long distances your endurance and cardiovascular health and breathing is greatly improved is it also a coincidence that the fighters mentioned had/have great stamina and were able to go 12 hard rounds without showing fatigue, Look at it like this a sprinter will only be effective for a short period of time a long distance runner will be able to go on for longer period of time translate that in to boxing whats gonna be more effective?

[Nigel_Benn]

Also Floyd who never gassed in a fight regularly ran 10 miles for his roadwork.

[viru§™]

Nigel Benn,JMM,JCC and Kelly Pavlik all used to and in pavliks case still run 12 miles in high altidude when you run long distances your endurance and cardiovascular health and breathing is greatly improved is it also a coincidence that the fighters mentioned had/have great stamina and were able to go 12 hard rounds without showing fatigue, Look at it like this a sprinter will only be effective for a short period of time a long distance runner will be able to go on for longer period of time translate that in to boxing whats gonna be more effective?

Boxing is thought to be around 80-90% anaerobic. Why spend so much time training aerobic?

If a guy can go 12 rounds without showing fatigue that tells you one thing.... he ain't doing fuck all.

[salsanchezfan]

Boxing is thought to be around 80-90% anaerobic. Why spend so much time training aerobic?

If a guy can go 12 rounds without showing fatigue that tells you one thing.... he ain't doing fuck all.


............Horseshit. Go tell that to Arguello or Sanchez. :roll:

[RDJ]

Boxing is thought to be around 80-90% anaerobic.

I think that depends on the style of said boxer. I'm becoming somewhat of a mover (not runner) lately.

[Brighton bomber]

Boxing is thought to be around 80-90% anaerobic. Why spend so much time training aerobic?

If a guy can go 12 rounds without showing fatigue that tells you one thing.... he ain't doing fuck all.


Or that he did his roadwork and is in great condition.

[Nigel_Benn]

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[Thumpa50814]

I always thought it was a rule of runners to carry water while there running?your really gonna carry a water bottle while you run while your running you should be changing speeds and main focus should be performance stay hydrated before and after and theres no need to carry the bottle