Is this one KO the entire basis for Peter's power being so feared?

[Heavyrighthand]

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It appears so.


Peter couldn't even get but one off balance knockdown of Toney in two full fights of pounding on the little guy. And Toney is not even what you'd call a natural heavyweight.

Peter also landed on Wladimir, flush, at least five times throughout their fight, and didn't get but one legitmate knockdown, which was late in the fight. (tenth, I think). And Wlad is supposedly a very weak chinned heavy who is tailor made for a big puncher who can bull his way in and land a big shot. He did land, a few times, but it didn't get the results Peter was after, though.

:blood

I think Peter has an incredible chin and a very strong will to win, but he's not the brutal powerpuncher most make him out to be. Granted, some of his ineffectiveness is due to poor form and technique, as he probably does have great power, but he can't deliver it, at least not well enough to be as damaging as most seem to think he is.

[nervousxtian]

No, it came from the fact he KO'd 17 of the first 18 guys he faced.

He was already hailed as a big puncher long before he almost decapitated Williams.

[El Bombasto]

No, it came from the fact he KO'd 17 of the first 18 guys he faced.

He was already hailed as a big puncher long before he almost decapitated Williams.

That's because 17 of the first 18 guys he's faced were bums. This guy couldn't KO Shufford, even McCline KO's Shufford.:patsch

[KillerInstinct]

No, it came from the fact he KO'd 17 of the first 18 guys he faced.

He was already hailed as a big puncher long before he almost decapitated Williams.

Tyrone Brunson has 18 first round KO's in a row, so in your opinion, he is the best puncher to ever live..right? :patsch

[sues2nd]

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It appears so.


Peter couldn't even get but one off balance knockdown of Toney in two full fights of pounding on the little guy. And Toney is not even what you'd call a natural heavyweight.

Peter also landed on Wladimir, flush, at least five times throughout their fight, and didn't get but one legitmate knockdown, which was late in the fight. (tenth, I think). And Wlad is supposedly a very weak chinned heavy who is tailor made for a big puncher who can bull his way in and land a big shot. He did land, a few times, but it didn't get the results Peter was after, though.

:blood

I think Peter has an incredible chin and a very strong will to win, but he's not the brutal powerpuncher most make him out to be. Granted, some of his ineffectiveness is due to poor form and technique, as he probably does have great power, but he can't deliver it, at least not well enough to be as damaging as most seem to think he is.

So are you arguing that he is NOT a big puncher????

You realize that Toney is one of the best defensive fighters of our generation....right? And that NOONE for the most part ever rocked Toney.

I mean, you realize that right?

[Heavyrighthand]

I am not saying he is not a big puncher, no.

I am saying that he is a big puncher, obviously, but not nearly as powerful as most seem to imply that he is. If he had the mythical power that his reputation implies, Toney would have been KOed, good chin or not. Same for Wladimir.

Didn't happen. Peter is a strong puncher, but not as strong as his reputation says he is. I recall that Duva and some of those clowns in the Peter camp were saying he has the most powerful puncher since Sonny Liston. I know they are merely trying to hype their meal ticket, but still. Peter has yet to earn even one KO of a decent heavyweight.

He probably won't be dropping Maskaev, either.

The effectiveness of Peter as a KO puncher is obviously limited by the level of opposition he's in with, as is usually the case, but it seems more apparent in this case. Jeremy Wiliams and Julius Long, sure, he can KO those kind of fighters. LOL

[Snakefist]

Toney probably has one of the best chins in boxing history, also he takes a lot of steam off of punches because of his little defensive moves he does which counts for a lot. Toney ain't never being stopped, or at least not in a few more years as he gets older.

[tays001]

peter's power is overated he couldn'e even ko shufford. didn't eitenn ko shufford?

[tays001]

you guy's are just peter lovers

[tays001]

and no way does he hit harder then then vlad

[Dr Gonzo]

He just hits people in the back of the head until they go down with frustration

[Asterion]

Peter is definitely a powerful puncher, although not a good puncher. He didn't win by KO his last fight because Toney has the best chin of all times, but he was able to knock him down.

[Dr Gonzo]

Peter is definitely a powerful puncher, although not a good puncher. He didn't win by KO his last fight because Toney has the best chin of all times, but he was able to knock him down.

Agreed, but i think in some form Toney was off balance which had a bit to do with it

[Asterion]

Agreed, but i think in some form Toney was off balance which had a bit to do with it

He was indeed off balance, but Peter's punch connected Toney's face and he went down, making it legitimate.

I don't think Peter has power like Tua or Foreman, fuck no, he doesn't... but he could be considered a powerful slugger in any heavyweight division of the last 100 years.

[thewoo]

I've said this a million times and I''ll say it again. Peter is a huge puncher as long as his opponent stands perfectly still for about 5 minutes while he winds up a slow looping haymaker. As long as he continues to fight top guys, don't expect to see any highlight reel KO's from him.

Having the kind of power that peter has is like having a 10 inch cock but also having erictile disfuntion

[paulfv]

I am saying that he is a big puncher, obviously, but not nearly as powerful as most seem to imply that he is

I totally agree

[Heavyrighthand]

I've said this a million times and I''ll say it again. Peter is a huge puncher as long as his opponent stands perfectly still for about 5 minutes while he winds up a slow looping haymaker. As long as he continues to fight top guys, don't expect to see any highlight reel KO's from him.

Having the kind of power that peter has is like having a 10 inch cock but also having erictile disfuntion

I started to laugh at the part about Peter needing them to stand still while he winds up, but when I got to the part about ten inches and having erectile disfunction, I just lost it! :lol:

[BoxingGuru]

It's an easy formula. Bums+Peter=KO.

Top 10 fighters + Peter + Behind the head=knockdowns only.

Scam Cheater will NEVER beat Wlad. He's getting KTFO if they meet again.

[the_what]

Peter has the type of power that can change a fight with 1 punch. So yes his powered should be feared. If you relax on Peter he will knock you the fuck out.

[El Bombasto]

Congo

[bmf95b]

I agree, after his only loss his next 2 fights were against WHO?

[bmf95b]

If he was such a bad a** he would have KO'd James"fat farm"Toney...

[Relentless]

james toney is not a natural heavyweight?? can he still make cruiserweight or any other weight below heavy?

[MachineGunMitch]

The guy is too inactive,he should be fighting 6 times a year .
You cant unify by fighting once a year

[barneyrub]

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It appears so.


Peter couldn't even get but one off balance knockdown of Toney in two full fights of pounding on the little guy. And Toney is not even what you'd call a natural heavyweight.

Peter also landed on Wladimir, flush, at least five times throughout their fight, and didn't get but one legitmate knockdown, which was late in the fight. (tenth, I think). And Wlad is supposedly a very weak chinned heavy who is tailor made for a big puncher who can bull his way in and land a big shot. He did land, a few times, but it didn't get the results Peter was after, though.

:blood

I think Peter has an incredible chin and a very strong will to win, but he's not the brutal powerpuncher most make him out to be. Granted, some of his ineffectiveness is due to poor form and technique, as he probably does have great power, but he can't deliver it, at least not well enough to be as damaging as most seem to think he is.He really didnt land anything other than maybe one flush shot on Wlad but even that was more of a scuffing one. Wlads defensive grab and lean on techniche neutralised peters swings.

[RUSKULL]

Peter is a total hype job. His best asset is actually his chin because he can take a few punches to land one of his own. Wladimir KO's him if they fight again.

[Relentless]

Peter is a total hype job. His best asset is actually his chin because he can take a few punches to land one of his own. Wladimir KO's him if they fight again.


baldomir couldn't ko him in the first fight wheere he landed hundreds of punches what makes you think it will be different this time??

btw why did you change your avatar?

[RUSKULL]

baldomir couldn't ko him in the first fight wheere he landed hundreds of punches what makes you think it will be different this time??

btw why did you change your avatar?

Wladimir landed flush many times but he didn't follow through or try to finish Peter because he was in a safety first mode. This time Wlad's confidence is at an all time high after having KO'd his last few top 10 rated opponents. WHAT HAS PETER DONE TO BE MENTIONED IN THE SAME BREATH?

I changed my avatar to Vitali because he's got a comeback fight scheduled.

[Relentless]

Wladimir landed flush many times but he didn't follow through or try to finish Peter because he was in a safety first mode. This time Wlad's confidence is at an all time high after having KO'd his last few top 10 rated opponents. WHAT HAS PETER DONE TO BE MENTIONED IN THE SAME BREATH?

I changed my avatar to Vitali because he's got a comeback fight scheduled.

you say tomato i say potato :conf

[Ivo]

I think that Peter\'s main asset is his chin not his punch.

[Vantage_West]

I am not saying he is not a big puncher, no.

I am saying that he is a big puncher,:think que?

he is a huge puncher he just doesnt have the techniques to put it to power instead of blunt wieght, these shots that he koed guys with are scary...in the way he hammered julius long :dead one right hand (which was a clob. bust him down formk 7 foot to 3 foot in 3 secounds

[Vantage_West]

you say tomato i say potato :confi got to use that one day

[SweetScienceFan]

Peter is definitely a big puncher. However, it is the ability to land those big punches that make people an very dangerous puncher. Peter is getting better at tightening up his shots.

Let's not forget that his knockdown of Toney was with a jab. Toney never landed a big flush power punch on Toney during those fights. Toney's defense is too good, and Peter threw lighter punches simply geared to land on Toney.

Make no mistake about it, Peter does have devastating power. The problem is that his wild shots are telegraphed and most people can see them coming, and prepare for them.

[Heavyrighthand]

Let's not forget that his knockdown of Toney was with a jab. Toney never landed a big flush power punch on Toney during those fights. .:blood I get your meaning.

I haven't seen that fight in a while, but I recall Peter caught Toney a few times,and I know he caught Wlad at least five times with good flush shots.

People who say he never really caught Wlad need to go back and watch the fight again, cause Peter certainly did catch Wlad with a few good shots; flush shots.



Peter is obivously strong as hell, but I think the overall aura of Peter's destructiveness is overrated, greatly. The Toney fights proved that. Had Peter been the wave of desctruction that he was touted to be, the small Toney would not have been able to stand toe to toe with him for 24 rounds.

[SweetScienceFan]

:blood I get your meaning.

I haven't seen that fight in a while, but I recall Peter caught Toney a few times,and I know he caught Wlad at least five times with good flush shots.

People who say he never really caught Wlad need to go back and watch the fight again, cause Peter certainly did catch Wlad with a few good shots; flush shots.



Peter is obivously strong as hell, but I think the overall aura of Peter's destructiveness is overrated, greatly. The Toney fights proved that. Had Peter been the wave of desctruction that he was touted to be, the small Toney would not have been able to stand toe to toe with him for 24 rounds.
I agree that Peter did catch Wladimir Klitschko with quite a few flush power punches. I also happen to believe that W. Klit's chin is underrated, as people exaggerate him to having a glass jaw when he doesn't.

However, in the Toney fight, Peter never really was able to load up on his shots like he did against the taller Wlad. Peter was able to swing like a crazed animal when in close against Wlad which is why he was able to land some of those shots. Wlad's size allowed that. However, Toney was a smaller target and Peter couldn't even come close when loading up, so he took the steam off of his shots. He did land flush shots against Toney, and beat him in both fights, IMO, but he never landed any of his monster shots on Toney.

[Shpion]

Peter is WAY WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overrated.
He is a good puncher that is not in question.
remember now guys like Taurus sykes who fought the same bums and beat them only had like 6 Ko's in 20 fights so relative to that it is clear he is a good puncher.

He is considered a monster puncher more so cause of his style.
He swings hard. When you swing hard you get a somewhat inflated perception of being a power puncher even if you are not one.

I agree. He is a good puncher but when fighting quality opposition, due to his poor skills he cannot properly place and time his shots.

[RUSKULL]

I think that Peter\'s main asset is his chin not his punch.

I just said that so now you owe me a beer!

[Marciano Frazier]

Yes, I think Peter's pure power is somewhat overrated, and he doesn't have much speed or skill with which to deliver, either. He's gone 10-1 with only 5 knockouts since he started fighting top 50 opponents, and he's never stopped a top 20 heavyweight. His power is good, but I don't think it's anything overly special.

[brooklyn1550]

Peter is very heavy handed and extremely physically strong, but he is not a great KO puncher. If he can hit you clean with a big haymaker, it's trouble, but he lacks the snap and technique that made Tua, Tyson, Liston, and Wlad devestating KO punchers.

[maciek4]

He is knocking Maskaev out thats for damn sure.

[BITCH ASS]

you guy's are just peter lovers

You love the peter.