Who will win the Boxing World Cup between Philippines & Mexico?

[ko factor]

My pick will be 50-50... coz both countries boxing representatives are all good, so it will be a toss up for either of them, what do you think guys?

[Boom_Boom]

the only 2 fights that matter on that card is

Rey Bautista ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) v Daniel Ponce de Leon ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Jhonny Gonzalez ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) v Gerry Penalosa ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

I have Bautista beating Deleon and GOnzalez beating Penalosa

[PacDbest]

Miguel Roman is the only one I pick for Mexico.

[ko factor]

I pick Bautista, Gorres & Banal for team Phil.

Gonzalez, Roman & Rosas for Mexico so it's 3-3, that's my pick.

[Bangis]

i want the phil to win but it would be a close one in my opinion....
dont you think bautista needs a couple more fights before figthing de leon?

[boxbox]

i want the phil to win but it would be a close one in my opinion....
dont you think bautista needs a couple more fights before figthing de leon?


i think he's ready. Rey's not the type who dets intimidated by his opponent..atleast basing from his previous fights..what needs developing is his chin...i dont think we can wait that long:yep

[hooligan]

i think he's ready. Rey's not the type who dets intimidated by his opponent..atleast basing from his previous fights..what needs developing is his chin...i dont think we can wait that long:yep

you can "develop a chin"?? :lol: what kind of training method does that?? :patsch its either you have a tough chin or have a glass one...

anyways i think rey should just work on not to be so careless...i think he has the skills to fight like a slickster....

[reed_man02]

it will be close because four of the fights include mexican bums. however, roman, dpl, and gonzales all win for sure. im willing to bet one of the bums pulls out a victory to give mexico the cup.

[hellblazer]

philippines all the way...

[boxbox]

you can "develop a chin"?? :lol: what kind of training method does that?? :patsch its either you have a tough chin or have a glass one...

anyways i think rey should just work on not to be so careless...i think he has the skills to fight like a slickster....


yeah thats why i said we cant wait that long because its impossible:yep

[knockout]

:happyPhilippines:happy

[Circa]

Pi

[enzo]

i pick bautista, gorrez and banal for PI...

[doknochrisan]

I would pick Bautista, Penalosa, Gorres and Banal, to win. Much better if the other 3 would win...

[ko factor]

No such thing as 50-50 because there will be 7 matches. The country that wins at least 4 matches will be declared winner.I thought there are 6 matches only? Did I miss something? he.he.he. Who else are fighting?

[Max Molyneux]

Calling this a world cup Is like calling Baseball between America and Canada the world series.

[theHawtness]

it will be close because four of the fights include mexican bums. however, roman, dpl, and gonzales all win for sure. im willing to bet one of the bums pulls out a victory to give mexico the cup.
ortiz is no bum. former world champion baby.

[theHawtness]

i want the phil to win but it would be a close one in my opinion....
dont you think bautista needs a couple more fights before figthing de leon?
he's just 21. i think his muscles aren't developed yet.

he'll win though. :blurp

[ko factor]

Diosdado Gabi is the last minute inclusion. His opponent is still unknown at the moment.Then I would pick Philippines winning 4-3.... Gabi is a good fighter. :yep

[El Bombasto]

Philipinos keep it close until the fights reach 147+

[nighthunter]

I pick bautista gorrez and banal but it will be a tough fight...
Good luck to all Filipino fighters.

[ko factor]

With Z Gorres pulling out this will be a big blow to the Philippine team, now this will gonna be a real tight close match-ups.

[andyZOR]

Mexico!

[ekar]

My picks

Ponce over Bautista
Gonzalez over Penalosa
Batawang over Verde
Gabi over over Guerrero
Roman over Domingo
Banal over Ortiz

3-3

[ko factor]

My fearless prediction:

Mexico - Philippines

De leon vs. Bautista = winner Bautista

Gonzalez vs. Penalosa = winner Gonzalez

Ortiz vs. Banal = winner Banal

Guerrero vs. Gorres = winner Gorres

Roman vs. Domingo = winner Roman

Rosas vs. Batawang = winner Batawang

Philippines wins the Cup 4-2

:happy:bbb

[retriever]

Pilipinas

[boxbox]

gorrez is out...torn retina

go philippines!

[ripcity]

othing like exploiting Nantionalistic/Enthnic rivaleries like they used to do with Jewish,Italian and Irish boxers in the past:D :good :thumbsup

[CASH_718]

Ponce De Leon KO 7 Bautista
Penalosa MD Gonzalez
Roman TKO 7 Domingo
Gabi UD Beranza
Banal UD Ortiz

Bert Batawang vs Gerardo Verde????

[Sweet Pea Pacquiao]

Originally, the winner of the Best-of-7 series on August 11 between budding boxing rivals Mexico and the Philippines was going to receive a $500,000 gold-and-diamond encrusted trophy sculpted by IceLink Watches and promoted by Golden Boy.

However, a big blow to Team Philippines occurred this week when super flyweight #1 contender Z Gorres (26-2-1, 14 KOs) was ruled out with a tear in his retina. Gorres, a southpaw stylist coming off a controversial split decision loss to current WBO champion Fernando Montiel, was heavily favored to defeat Mexican Jose Angel Beranza (30-9-2, 25 KOs), who has tentatively been scratched off the card.

Due to the Gorres injury, the series has now been reduced to SIX bouts, with a potential tiebreaker being discussed right now. The new lineup is as follows, keeping in mind that the fight between Mexican-American Brandon Gonzalez and "TBA" will not count against the six-fight total because he will be fighting at middleweight against a non-Filipino.

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(M) Daniel Ponce De Leon (31-1, 28 KOs) vs
(P) Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista (23-0, 17 KOs)
(WBO junior featherweight championship)

EDGE: DE LEON because of his experience, punching power, and Bautista's "the jury is out" chin. Bautista, who also hits like a ton of bricks, can win if he has the discipline to box on the outside when he has to, and counterpunch when De Leon is off balance. This might be too much to ask of the 21-year-old, who has never faced a fighter of this quality before. Then again, Bautista is Golden Boy's current "Golden Boy," so maybe Oscar knows something I don't.
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(M) Jhonny "Johnny" Gonzalez (34-5, 29 KOs) vs
(P) Gerry "Fearless" Penalosa (51-6-2, 34 KOs)
(WBO bantamweight championship)

EDGE: While Penalosa has years of experience, including a controversial UD loss to Ponce De Leon where most observers felt he took at least five rounds, GONZALEZ is the man to beat here. He is much taller, longer, and much more complete than De Leon. However, two questions remain: Although he made 118 in his title defense against Irene Pacheco, will Gonzalez be weight-drained from having to make bantam one last time? Furthermore, how will he handle the style of the best technician the Philippines has to offer, and a southpaw at that?
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(M) Gerson "El Nene" Guerrero (33-7, 25 KOs) vs
(P) Diosdado "Prince" Gabi (29-3-1, 21 KOs)
(IBF junior bantamweight eliminator)

EDGE: Guerrero will dwarf Gabi by three inches, but GABI has a very slight advantage in the fight because of his boxing ability and newfound power. Both have failed challenges at the world title level against some big names. Himself a victim of current teammate De Leon (KOby2), Guerrero has also lost to Arce-conqueror Cristian Mijares (TKOby8}. On the other hand, while Gabi was blasted by Vic Darchinyan on Shobox (TKOby8}, he took a few rounds from him. In addition, Gabi was fighting two weight classes below his most comfortable weight, 118. Since the move, he has recorded three straight stoppages within two rounds or less, including one over Mauricio Pastrana, who has stopped Guerrero in the past.
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(M) Gerardo Verde (15-4, 11 KOs) vs
(P) Bert Batawang (50-6, 34 KOs)
(IBF junior flyweight eliminator)

EDGE: VERDE is the favorite here, as he has more seasoning against proven fighters, including Ivan Calderon (LbyUD12), a fight where he took a couple rounds from the undefeated Iron Boy. Batawang has been a mainstay on the WBO rankings for years, but has no one on his resume to prove he has been tested.
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(M) Miguel Roman (21-0, 15 KOs) vs
(P) Michael Domingo (31-14-2, 12 KOs)
(junior featherweight, 6 rounds)

EDGE: ROMAN is an overwhelming favorite here. He's an undefeated prospect with some good names on his resume to date, including two decision wins over Cesar Soto, who once unceremoniously snatched away the WBC featherweight crown from Filipino legend Luisito Espinosa. Domingo is the current Philippine national champ at 118, but he has taken two losses in his last three bouts. Moving up in weight against an undefeated prospect is not an ideal situation.
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(P) AJ Banal (13-0-1, 10 KOs) vs
(M) Eric Ortiz (26-6-1, 17 KOs)
(junior bantamweight, 6 rounds)

EDGE: This is a very risky decision by Banal's handlers to put him in this early with a former world champion in ORTIZ, who should be favored. Ortiz once lost his WBC light flyweight strap to Filipino Brian Viloria by first-round knockout, followed by another technical knockout loss to Ulises Solis, brother of Manny Pacquiao KO victim Jorge Solis. On the other hand, although only 18, Banal is a smooth southpaw with power who can beat you by brawling, boxing, or exchanging inside. De La Hoya and GBP have been sending scouts to the Philippines for two years now, so you know he has potential to be something special. This is the undercard fight to keep an eye on before the televised twin world championship bouts.
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NON-WORLD CUP BOUT/SPECIAL ATTRACTION
Brandon Gonzales (1-0, 1 KO) vs
TBA

EDGE: Like AJ Banal, GONZALES, a former amateur standout from Sacramento, has been scouted by Golden Boy and is a couple of impressive showings away from a GBP contract.
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For once, Golden Boy has put up a very entertaining card with good matchups that people will rightfully put up good money to watch. It's a shame that none of these fighters are household names, mainly for the fact they don't speak fluent English.
I would've liked to see hometown boy and Mexican-American featherweight Vicente Escobedo on the card, especially because he has ties to both nations being a former sparring partner for Manny Pacquiao. Another fighter that would've been a good addition would be 122-pound Mexican prospect Abner Mares, who has called out Bautista on occasion calling him "Bum Bum." Perhaps that will be one for the next World Cup.
Filipino fighters that should have been considered for the card include Glenn Donaire, brother of Darchinyan-conqueror Nonito, who would have stepped in nicely to take on Beranza at a catchweight of 115. Strawweight contender Donnie Nietes has power in his little fists. Finally, new Top Rank signing Bernabe Concepcion, currently WBC Youth Champion at 122, would've also been a good addition to the card, but he and Rodel Mayol just fought on the Morales-Diaz undercard.

[PacDbest]

gorrez is out...torn retina

go philippines!

Gorres now was cleared to fight.

Who else here are going to watch it live in Arco????

[ko factor]

Originally, the winner of the Best-of-7 series on August 11 between budding boxing rivals Mexico and the Philippines was going to receive a $500,000 gold-and-diamond encrusted trophy sculpted by IceLink Watches and promoted by Golden Boy.

However, a big blow to Team Philippines occurred this week when super flyweight #1 contender Z Gorres (26-2-1, 14 KOs) was ruled out with a tear in his retina. Gorres, a southpaw stylist coming off a controversial split decision loss to current WBO champion Fernando Montiel, was heavily favored to defeat Mexican Jose Angel Beranza (30-9-2, 25 KOs), who has tentatively been scratched off the card.

Due to the Gorres injury, the series has now been reduced to SIX bouts, with a potential tiebreaker being discussed right now. The new lineup is as follows, keeping in mind that the fight between Mexican-American Brandon Gonzalez and "TBA" will not count against the six-fight total because he will be fighting at middleweight against a non-Filipino.

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(M) Daniel Ponce De Leon (31-1, 28 KOs) vs
(P) Rey "Boom Boom" Bautista (23-0, 17 KOs)
(WBO junior featherweight championship)

EDGE: DE LEON because of his experience, punching power, and Bautista's "the jury is out" chin. Bautista, who also hits like a ton of bricks, can win if he has the discipline to box on the outside when he has to, and counterpunch when De Leon is off balance. This might be too much to ask of the 21-year-old, who has never faced a fighter of this quality before. Then again, Bautista is Golden Boy's current "Golden Boy," so maybe Oscar knows something I don't.
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(M) Jhonny "Johnny" Gonzalez (34-5, 29 KOs) vs
(P) Gerry "Fearless" Penalosa (51-6-2, 34 KOs)
(WBO bantamweight championship)

EDGE: While Penalosa has years of experience, including a controversial UD loss to Ponce De Leon where most observers felt he took at least five rounds, GONZALEZ is the man to beat here. He is much taller, longer, and much more complete than De Leon. However, two questions remain: Although he made 118 in his title defense against Irene Pacheco, will Gonzalez be weight-drained from having to make bantam one last time? Furthermore, how will he handle the style of the best technician the Philippines has to offer, and a southpaw at that?
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(M) Gerson "El Nene" Guerrero (33-7, 25 KOs) vs
(P) Diosdado "Prince" Gabi (29-3-1, 21 KOs)
(IBF junior bantamweight eliminator)

EDGE: Guerrero will dwarf Gabi by three inches, but GABI has a very slight advantage in the fight because of his boxing ability and newfound power. Both have failed challenges at the world title level against some big names. Himself a victim of current teammate De Leon (KOby2), Guerrero has also lost to Arce-conqueror Cristian Mijares (TKOby8}. On the other hand, while Gabi was blasted by Vic Darchinyan on Shobox (TKOby8}, he took a few rounds from him. In addition, Gabi was fighting two weight classes below his most comfortable weight, 118. Since the move, he has recorded three straight stoppages within two rounds or less, including one over Mauricio Pastrana, who has stopped Guerrero in the past.
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(M) Gerardo Verde (15-4, 11 KOs) vs
(P) Bert Batawang (50-6, 34 KOs)
(IBF junior flyweight eliminator)

EDGE: VERDE is the favorite here, as he has more seasoning against proven fighters, including Ivan Calderon (LbyUD12), a fight where he took a couple rounds from the undefeated Iron Boy. Batawang has been a mainstay on the WBO rankings for years, but has no one on his resume to prove he has been tested.
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(M) Miguel Roman (21-0, 15 KOs) vs
(P) Michael Domingo (31-14-2, 12 KOs)
(junior featherweight, 6 rounds)

EDGE: ROMAN is an overwhelming favorite here. He's an undefeated prospect with some good names on his resume to date, including two decision wins over Cesar Soto, who once unceremoniously snatched away the WBC featherweight crown from Filipino legend Luisito Espinosa. Domingo is the current Philippine national champ at 118, but he has taken two losses in his last three bouts. Moving up in weight against an undefeated prospect is not an ideal situation.
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(P) AJ Banal (13-0-1, 10 KOs) vs
(M) Eric Ortiz (26-6-1, 17 KOs)
(junior bantamweight, 6 rounds)

EDGE: This is a very risky decision by Banal's handlers to put him in this early with a former world champion in ORTIZ, who should be favored. Ortiz once lost his WBC light flyweight strap to Filipino Brian Viloria by first-round knockout, followed by another technical knockout loss to Ulises Solis, brother of Manny Pacquiao KO victim Jorge Solis. On the other hand, although only 18, Banal is a smooth southpaw with power who can beat you by brawling, boxing, or exchanging inside. De La Hoya and GBP have been sending scouts to the Philippines for two years now, so you know he has potential to be something special. This is the undercard fight to keep an eye on before the televised twin world championship bouts.
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NON-WORLD CUP BOUT/SPECIAL ATTRACTION
Brandon Gonzales (1-0, 1 KO) vs
TBA

EDGE: Like AJ Banal, GONZALES, a former amateur standout from Sacramento, has been scouted by Golden Boy and is a couple of impressive showings away from a GBP contract.
______________________________________________________________

For once, Golden Boy has put up a very entertaining card with good matchups that people will rightfully put up good money to watch. It's a shame that none of these fighters are household names, mainly for the fact they don't speak fluent English.
I would've liked to see hometown boy and Mexican-American featherweight Vicente Escobedo on the card, especially because he has ties to both nations being a former sparring partner for Manny Pacquiao. Another fighter that would've been a good addition would be 122-pound Mexican prospect Abner Mares, who has called out Bautista on occasion calling him "Bum Bum." Perhaps that will be one for the next World Cup.
Filipino fighters that should have been considered for the card include Glenn Donaire, brother of Darchinyan-conqueror Nonito, who would have stepped in nicely to take on Beranza at a catchweight of 115. Strawweight contender Donnie Nietes has power in his little fists. Finally, new Top Rank signing Bernabe Concepcion, currently WBC Youth Champion at 122, would've also been a good addition to the card, but he and Rodel Mayol just fought on the Morales-Diaz undercard. A very good analysis!:good

[ko factor]

So far we have a tie! 26 on PI ,26 for Mexico.:bbb

[ko factor]

So far we have a tie! 26 on PI ,26 for Mexico.:bbbNow it's Mexico leading by a hair in the poll 27 to 26, welcome to the new rivalry in boxing! LET'S GET IT ON! yohooo!:bbb:happy:happy

[theunderdog]

philippines is lucky that ortiz is facing gorres and not banal. i thought banal vs ortiz would have gone mexico's favor but now i think gorres will take it. and banal will now be facing a john doe meaning that the fighter he'll face will not be in top condition as the time that he was notified will be too short now. i think that's an instant 2-0 for the philippines. but the other 4 fights, i see mexico winning

[PacDbest]

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

Quotes from the World Cup.

Philippines wins 5-1. Maybe a Sweep. They're seems to be very confident.

[PacDbest]

philippines is lucky that ortiz is facing gorres and not banal. i thought banal vs ortiz would have gone mexico's favor but now i think gorres will take it. and banal will now be facing a john doe meaning that the fighter he'll face will not be in top condition as the time that he was notified will be too short now. i think that's an instant 2-0 for the philippines. but the other 4 fights, i see mexico winning

I really want to see Banal with ortiz, a little bit dissapointed. AJ will KO that Bum replacement in the 1st round.

[PacDbest]

Rey by KO, Saw Ponce-Gerry fight again. I don't think Ponce can take 12 rds of beating.
Gerry by TKO in the 9th
Gorres by Lopsided UD
Roman By KO(Hoping for Upset)
Gabi By KO
Banal By KO-

This is How I see it.

[PacDbest]

[Only registered and activated users can see links]

Bautista & Ponce workout video.

[ko factor]

Rey by hard fought UD.
Gerry by TKO in the 9th
Gorres by Lopsided UD
Roman By KO(Hoping for Upset)
Gabi By KO
Banal By KO-

This is How I see it.My pick

Bautista vs De Leon = toss up (but leaning on Bautista due to his boxing skills)

Penalosa vs. Gonzalez = Gonzalez due to height and youth

Gorres by UD

Gabi by KO

Banal by KO

Roman by KO

Pinoys 4-2 over Mehicanos.

[ko factor]

In case of a tie break: (If de Leon wins)

Pacquaio KO Barrera

4-3 Philippines :happy:happy:happy

[theunderdog]

check the vbookie out. the pay out for a penalosa is tremendous.

[theunderdog]

I am picking Mexico. For obvious reasons

where did you out your vcash? i have mine on penalosa and the other one is with the deleon-boomboom under 9.5 rounds.

i feel gonzales still has the upper hand on their fight but the pay out for penalosa was nice so i bet on him. and i think he'll go all out on this fight, being his last

[mbandit]

To be honest with you the pinoys are at a very huge advantege.They got prospects that are young and good and mexico only has one good fighter in that card and that is gonzalez.All the other mexican fighters are bums including de leon.i wish it wasnt true but it is.Its like having victor ortiz,cazarez,ulisses solis, martin castillo mijares and a few 2 so so fighters against old pinoy fighters.If you dont believe me check their records.i dont understand why d.l.h would do this to his own people but oh well what can you do.That is the reason why the pinoys are very confident.Heck i would be too with those opponents.I just mexico can pull it off.One thing is for sure we gonzalez will win.

[PacDbest]

Anybody knows if they Allowed Camcorder of Digital SLR in the Stadium for the World cup???

[myk]

I read that if it ends up at three apiece, the Pacquiao-Barrera fight will serve as the tiebreaker

[PacDbest]

check the vbookie out. the pay out for a penalosa is tremendous.

Roach will be betting on Penalosa. You might as well put some money on it.

[PacDbest]

.
4 - 2 win for Team Philippines

Daniel Ponce de Leon VS. Rey Bautista - Ponce de Leon (M)
Jhonny Gonzalez VS. Gerry Peñalosa - Peñalosa (P)
Z Gorres VS. Eric Ortiz - Ortiz (M)
Miguel Roman VS. Michael Domingo - Domingo (P)
Diosdado Gabi VS. Jose Angel Beranza - Gabi (P)
AJ Banal VS. Jorge Cardenas - Banal (P)

Can't believe you pick Ortiz & Domingo. I thought that 2 is the easiest to predict to lose.

[Galaxy]

3-3 tie
Deleon UD Bautista
Jhonny UD Peñalosa
Gorrez UD Ortiz
Roman KO Domingo
Gabi Tko Beranza
BAnal Ud Cardenas

[ko factor]

Bautista will knock out De Leon... Both fighter is capable of knocking out each other, the question is who will land that big bomb first?

[ko factor]

I think the Philippines is winning in the poll now, let's find out on fight night... might come true. :thumbsup

[PacDbest]

Here's my Prediction tonight:

Bautista by KO.

Ponce can be beaten easily by skilled fighter & a fighter who will not be intimidated by his Power. Bautista can be Rocked, But in the 2 fights he's in trouble he's shown how courageous he is, he never backs down. Ponce's Defense is like 7-eleven, it's open 24 hrs a day, Bautista's Power will dent that Chin. BBB(BoomboomBautista) is the most Powerful fighter to test PDL. I've seen Caballero last week & didn't see his Power. South paw Penalosa is too small & yet hit PDL by right hook at will. BBB is Right handed & has a Devastating Straight Right, I see this punch land at will follow by left hook to the body. When PDL duck expect a Left uppercut to straighten him up. BBB will finish PDL By Srt Right or left hook.

Penalosa by KO.

Gonzales is tall & Skillfull but Penalosa has more skill & Ironned jaw. I see Penalosa slipping & countering JG. JG will break down around 9th rd. Penalosa is so Hungry after he was robbed in the last fight. I don't think JG recovered yet from his KO loss to Vasquez.

[ko factor]

Here's my Prediction tonight:

Bautista by KO.

Ponce can be beaten easily by skilled fighter & a fighter who will not be intimidated by his Power. Bautista can be Rocked, But in the 2 fights he's in trouble he's shown how courageous he is, he never backs down. Ponce's Defense is like 7-eleven, it's open 24 hrs a day, Bautista's Power will dent that Chin. BBB(BoomboomBautista) is the most Powerful fighter to test PDL. I've seen Caballero last week & didn't see his Power. South paw Penalosa is too small & yet hit PDL by right hook at will. BBB is Right handed & has a Devastating Straight Right, I see this punch land at will follow by left hook to the body. When PDL duck expect a Left uppercut to straighten him up. BBB will finish PDL By Srt Right or left hook.:good:clap:

[jopez707]

Here's my Prediction tonight:

Bautista by KO.

Ponce can be beaten easily by skilled fighter & a fighter who will not be intimidated by his Power. Bautista can be Rocked, But in the 2 fights he's in trouble he's shown how courageous he is, he never backs down. Ponce's Defense is like 7-eleven, it's open 24 hrs a day, Bautista's Power will dent that Chin. BBB(BoomboomBautista) is the most Powerful fighter to test PDL. I've seen Caballero last week & didn't see his Power. South paw Penalosa is too small & yet hit PDL by right hook at will. BBB is Right handed & has a Devastating Straight Right, I see this punch land at will follow by left hook to the body. When PDL duck expect a Left uppercut to straighten him up. BBB will finish PDL By Srt Right or left hook.

I'll admit that Caballero didnt impress me as much as I would have hoped last week. But he does have major power for the division, the other guy he was fighting just could take a real good punch. You could see in the later rounds that the other guy was real tired, still I scored it a draw. I dont think Bautista could have taken some of those shots from Caballero. De Leon Ko round 8 over Bautista. De Leon's chin is very solid, Bautista's looked very week in his last outing.

[PacDbest]

I'll admit that Caballero didnt impress me as much as I would have hoped last week. But he does have major power for the division, the other guy he was fighting just could take a real good punch. You could see in the later rounds that the other guy was real tired, still I scored it a draw. I dont think Bautista could have taken some of those shots from Caballero. De Leon Ko round 8 over Bautista. De Leon's chin is very solid, Bautista's looked very week in his last outing.

Medina has a Solid Turtle defense & a good counter puncher that's why Bautista has some problems with him. Ponce doesn't have defense or Counter punching.

[Spitfire7]

It's hard to bet against an established superpower of little men's boxing like Mexico. However, the Philippines is on a roll right now, kickstarted by Pacman some nearly 4 yrs. ago. The cards are stacked against the Philos, but being the eternal romantic, i'll root for the underdog. Prediction: 3-2-1.

[PacDbest]

It's reported that Pac went back home in the Philippines. I'm Pac-king dissapointed with Pac. Will he stay for another day & support his countrymen??? He better have a valid reason or I'll lose respect for him!!!

[brooklyn1550]

So far it's 2-0 for Team Philippines ... Gabi and Domingo wins their bouts ... Ha ha my predictions are on the right track this early .... ;)

You've got Penalosa over Gonzalez? I really hope so, but I don't see that happening.

[Boom_Boom]

How the fuck did Roman lose that fight....WTF!!!!!!!!???

[Hawks28]

How the fuck did Roman lose that fight....WTF!!!!!!!!???

according to fightnews.com, that fight was all action and at the end, they thought the decision could go either way.

for the remaining fights I will go with, Gorres, Gonzalez and Bautista.

[juancho214]

No such thing as 50-50 because there will be 7 matches. The country that wins at least 4 matches will be declared winner.
one was cancled so in case of draw , Barrera-Pacquioa winner takes it

[ko factor]

Team Philippines is up 3-0 now. Gorres & Ortiz are still fighting as of this moment.

Gabi won by UD against Beranza
Domingo won by UD against undefeated Roman(huge upset)
Aj Banal KOed Cardenas

[retriever]

its now 4-0 for the Philippines.

[CASH_718]

Bwa ha ha ... It's Philippines 5-0 so far over Mexico ... Peñalosa KO'ed Gonzalez with a body shot ...

So far my predictions with 4 corrects and 1 miss ... hahaha ...How the fuck did you pcik Ortiz over Gorrez??? Just off of that prediction I'd say your an out and out moron even if you go 5-1.

[ko factor]

Congratulations to team Philippines for winning the Boxing World Cup!!!:cheers

[theunderdog]

where did you out your vcash? i have mine on penalosa and the other one is with the deleon-boomboom under 9.5 rounds.

i feel gonzales still has the upper hand on their fight but the pay out for penalosa was nice so i bet on him. and i think he'll go all out on this fight, being his last


yeah baby!!! do you guys know the scorecard on this fight? i only gave gerry one round. anyway, it doesnt matter now.

[puga_ni_nana]

I never thought I say this...Im starting to lose respect for the guy also

All of our young fighters owe alot to PAC and thats where it should stop. Meaning dont follow his footsteps and stay dedicated to the craft.

I've long suspected when someone mentioned here on ESB that in Visaya, his hometown he is very cocky and hes not the same humble guy you see in the Media...I believe that now

How do you not represent your team and country...:huh

me too. he is starting to get arrogant, attitude-wise. holding grudges against columnist, being unprofessional and not much focus in training these days. :verysad

[theunderdog]

holy shroud. the filipinos are turning their backs on pac. i never thought i'd see this day!!! get ready for some hate posts from domngo and pacd

[ko factor]

You'll see that we are reasonable people Snape...the fairest in this forum..When you leave your countrymen like that..we dont tolerate that..

I hope he has very good reasonsHe should have stayed at least for one night until the Boxing World Cup is over then fly home.:(

[Chert]

yep. if reports are true, pac is getting too much of a swell-head and is very unfocused in his training for his next fight. he may be due for a rude awakening but i hope not.

[theunderdog]

too bad gerry is old. i like him way more than pac. if onkly gerry was a couple of inches taller.

[theunderdog]

Ho would have been unbelievable if he was 5'7...I mean Jhonny had a foot on him height and reach wise...I was thinking how the hell will he reach him...and Boom! what timing...

Lets not forget, hes got some pop


and his defense is awesome. i mean, he was getting hit by a lot and catches most on his gloves. but then he got his square in the face and he walked right throught it. damn. good times. i hope gerry retires now. not many fighters retire as world champs and he has a chance to do just that. he won a title 10 years after winning his first belt. how sweet is that?

[Bangis]

me too. he is starting to get arrogant, attitude-wise. holding grudges against columnist, being unprofessional and not much focus in training these days. :verysad

count me in! I like Pac but with the way he is acting recently i dont know.
I really wasnt believing reports about his being unproffesional and other stuff before. i think his fame is getting in his head. I didnt like it when he did not show up for the weigh in for world cup, He was the team captain!

[PacDbest]

My Ringside report:

I came in late Missed the whole Gabi fight. Used restroom,when I came out, Lupe contreras Announced Gabi as the winner.

Find our seats, we're around pinoys from LA,Mex front & Back & some White guys in front. We seat Ringside corner where HBo guys do the Talking & Block our View, Packing Lenox is too tall.

Domingo surprise me, He shows heart & drive to win. Well Roman is just overated, He looks weak & unskilled. he complains a lot. WE're wildly cheering when Domingo Announced the winner. I lead the Chant " Filipino..2-Zero.." in the tune of Bebot-Bebot by Blackeyed peas.

Break.. Beer for $18.00 . Authograph & Picture opportunity with Diane Castillejo, Donaire, Mayol, Gabi, Steve Kim, Katsidis, Recah & JMM. I'm the Cameraman so most Pix is me cousin & the celebs.

AJ time, Told Pinoy fans, this is our best Prospect, Don't blink it won't last. Usher saw me videotaping with my DIG cam, cut me off.Pac it I'll just enjoy the fight. AJ Ko the Guy, we explode!!! Chant " Filipino 3-Zero" 3X.

Pee time.. PIx taking. Talk to Nonito a little bit. He's nice to all, very accomodating. Told Mayol, Don't give up, you'll be a Champion too.

Gorres time. Lennox & other Guy starts talking, Blocking us. Fights a little bit exciting. Gorres won. Chant 'Filipino 4-Zero!!" 3X.

National anthem, By a Fag Pinoy Brother. Packing boring, I can sing better than them. Mex Anthem, 2 old couple, the woman out of tune. I sang part of the Anthem. US anthem, Trio of Hot Pinay/Hispanic, decent but not good enough.

Gerry time, Gonzales is a Hella Boring, Running away, Mexicans even yelled & egg him " Common Jhonny!!!" White guy in front of me "Fight!! Fight!!! I yelled " Don't be scared, Stop Running!! It's just a small guy!!! Gerry KO him we Chant " Filipino 5-zero. 3X.

Boom time, we started yelling " Filipino 6-zero!!, White guy want to bet pick Ponce, I take it, $20 then raised it to $50. One Round my Money down the drain.

Talk to steve Kim, He said Boom-Boom shows his weakness even in sparring at the wild card gym. Told Kim" You know what I have a guy for Ponce & I mentioned Concepcion. Kim aggreed with me that Concepcion is really impressive.

Still happy though, I predict 5-1, just different guy lost. An enjoyable night for my First Live Boxing event. I won't mind $50 bet loss. the Filipino fighters makes me Proud of being Filipino.

Mex behind shakes our hand, Good fight, No hard feelings. The Mexicans seems really respect Filipino Fighters nowadays. Some complaints of Matchmaking in favor of Pinoys in the early fights.

Lennox signing authographs, just want some Pix with him, just passed me, & say no to the rest of Fans asking for Authograph. Who da pac he is anyway. I'm so tired, I work in the Morning & no time to chase for pix & Autograph.


Swing bout, Nobody cares, Black guy KO a Mex Bum in one rd.

Last Pix opportunity, Tecate girls round girls. put my hands around them, SSSOft.

Time to go home.

Watch the fight, Internet, time to sleep, will work 6 am. Goodnight guys.

[theunderdog]

I more than agree w/ you this time, UD.:good How about a rematch w/ Ponce de Leon? That would be blockbuster of fight to pass by Gerry.

i disagree. i see no point in de leon fiighting penalosa again, he wouldn't want to risk taking a body shot like that. and if you ask de leon, he'll just be saying that what merit is there in defeating a guy he's already defeated before

as for gerry, please retire. go enjoy the belt and teach the young pinoy fighters some of your defense! specially bautista because he freaking needs it