View Full Version : Wandy's next opponent = Thiago Silva or Machida
boxingcar
06-05-2008, 07:06 PM
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From: Wanderlei ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Date: Jun 5, 2008 10:44 AM
My next fight will be between Thiago silva or Lyoto machida!
I will inform u of any other unformation about my next fight!
Thanks for your support!
Wanderlei.
Makes sense both those guys are near the top of the heap and close to a title shot.
I'd rather it be Thiago. Machida deserves the winner of Rampage/Griffin. I don't care if people think his style his boring, the man has a resume worthy of a title shot.
LB3000
06-05-2008, 07:43 PM
I'd rather it be Thiago. Machida deserves the winner of Rampage/Griffin. I don't care if people think his style his boring, the man has a resume worthy of a title shot. I agree, but it wouldn't surprise me if they make it as hard as possible for Machida to get near the title.
for sure he isn't exactly the most marktable guy even though he is a great fighter.
doefler182
06-05-2008, 10:38 PM
id love to see machida vs wand
see if machida's technical borefest could beat wand's veteran kamikaze
ufoalf
06-05-2008, 11:03 PM
Oh PLEASE put him against Machida so Wandy can fuck him up scared shitless.
I may be the biggest Wand fan here. I worry about a matchup with Machida, since Machida is so defensive and focused on counters. Wand doesn't seem to take punches he doesn't see comming very well, Machida is very good at not setting and landing.. Whether he has power or not, he tends to land frequently with shots his opponents are not expecting.. Wand can take a huge shot if he sees it, has freakish recovery, but also busts up rather easily..
On the other hand.. Wand poses some serious threats to Machida.. Since Machida isn't hugely powerful, its quite possible he will stick to his chess match and focus on winning via decision.. The thing is, Wand is a good finisher from the second he starts a fight, to the second the fight ends.. The more times Machida tries to strike, the more times Wand will look to exchange, and the more likely he lands a huge shot on Machida, and the more likely Machida gets knocked out.. Wand is plenty dangerous and plenty aggressive, seems to fight better confused at times and is great at exploiting a moment in a fight to turn it into a victory for himself. Fuck, I love vintage Wand. Cant wait to see his next fight, win or lose.
ufoalf
06-06-2008, 10:19 AM
Dude, Machida will NOT backpedal against Wanderlei. He will turn around and run. Last fight reminded me of Kaleb Sterns or w/e his name was. With occasional karate type strike outbursts. He would be worse champion then Tim Sylvia.
Ubersteve
06-06-2008, 10:39 AM
I love Wandy, but I really, really don't see him beating Lyoto. T Silva has a style that might play into his hands somewhat. Lyoto? The most tactically aware guy in the game? Wandy is far too predictable to trouble him too much, imo.
Tuffnutz
06-06-2008, 11:01 AM
Dude, Machida will NOT backpedal against Wanderlei. He will turn around and run. Last fight reminded me of Kaleb Sterns or w/e his name was. With occasional karate type strike outbursts. He would be worse champion then Tim Sylvia.
:roll:
Donut62
06-06-2008, 12:34 PM
Machida will make Wandy look old and shitty, just like he does everyone else. If they have half a brain they will put him against Thiago to strike when the iron is hot.
I have watched silva fight many times. I predicted Chuck would beat him. Silva is like an animal no brain just pure emotion and instinct. Machida could out think him and counter him all day long. Machida will tap him out at the appropriate time.
Dude, Machida will NOT backpedal against Wanderlei. He will turn around and run. Last fight reminded me of Kaleb Sterns or w/e his name was. With occasional karate type strike outbursts. He would be worse champion then Tim Sylvia. Who are you to judge what is a good champion are not? If Machida keeps winning with his style that is good. He is not there to please you. He is there to win fighting is 90% mental anyway.
The best match up would be Chuck and Machida both smart and tactical. Interesting for those of us who have an IQ above plant life.
LB3000
06-06-2008, 01:21 PM
I also like Wand and I agree he would struggle with Machida. Good shout coog, Chuck vs Machida makes sense.
Tuffnutz
06-06-2008, 01:43 PM
If "The Axe Murederer" shows up you can't right him off against anyone at 205.
When he's wild and hungry he's harder to figure out.
I want to see Wand go ape shit on everyone now until he retires.
Fuck game plans.
I want to see Wand running on pure emotion and confidence.
If they stick him in with Machida i want to see Wand go crazy at him and overwhelm him.
I want to see Wand test machidas heart and his stamina.
Push him with aggression and take him out of his comfort zone.
Don't give him room to breath, think or pick his shots. :good
radianttwilight
06-06-2008, 02:23 PM
Machida would most likely pick him apart, especially at this stage of Wanderlei's career.
sugarngold
06-06-2008, 02:51 PM
As much as I want to see Wanderlai fight Machida - I don't want to see it because more than likely Machida will spoil Silva's fight and work his way to a rather boring decision.
ufoalf
06-06-2008, 03:52 PM
Who are you to judge what is a good champion are not? If Machida keeps winning with his style that is good. He is not there to please you. He is there to win fighting is 90% mental anyway.
Im a spectator who pays he's salary :hi:. He IS there to please me. If Machida keeps winning the same way he has been, he will be worse than Tim, point stands. Try again.
Im a spectator who pays he's salary :hi:. He IS there to please me. If Machida keeps winning the same way he has been, he will be worse than Tim, point stands. Try again. What did Tim do to disapoint you? The fight game has always been a mental game some fighters find aggression to be their mental game others find movement and countering their game. The object is to win. As this sport progresses you will se more nd more of this. I suggest you stop watching or observe the nuances of each fighter and appreciate it.
ufoalf
06-06-2008, 10:33 PM
What did Tim do to disapoint you? The fight game has always been a mental game some fighters find aggression to be their mental game others find movement and countering their game. The object is to win. As this sport progresses you will se more nd more of this. I suggest you stop watching or observe the nuances of each fighter and appreciate it.
What I wanna see is willingness to fight. When I see a person backpedling the whole time its not entertaining nor pleasing. No, you will see more and more improved striking and overall skills. You will see just as many people who will just try to squize out a win its how they fight.
Tim Sylvia has been very unaggressive his last few fights with exception of one vs Nog, which was pretty exciting fight.
Im the first one to defend fighters when the crowd starts booing and I appreciate nuances more so than many people perhaps maybe even you. But when a person does karate kicks just to score points while backpedaling, nah, thats not nuances. Thats junk.
Ubersteve
06-07-2008, 02:57 AM
Even if you hate Lyoto or not, I find it strange you'd want Wandy to face him. He's really not the guy to put an end to him.
ufoalf
06-07-2008, 04:24 AM
Even if you hate Lyoto or not, I find it strange you'd want Wandy to face him. He's really not the guy to put an end to him.
You're right, Chuck would be better. Like I've said before I think the person to beat him would be the one who counter punches well. But i prefer Silva fight Machida over T.Silva.
Ubersteve
06-07-2008, 04:41 AM
I think Lyoto just does what Jardine does to Lidell. That's the last fight I want to see, I enjoy watching Machida and even I think Machida/Chuck would be coma inducingly boring.
Shogun I would think is the best Machida cure. Rampage also has a solid chance against him. Not sure about Forrest, but he can make it competitive on will alone.
Forest could create probems for Machida because of his size and he is learning to use his jab a litle better.
Actually.. I think a good match might be Rashad Evans vs. Lyoto. Seriously, two very boring tactical styles that have short outbursts of excitement every few rounds..
Rashad, so tentative to do anything.. Lyoto, always waiting for opportunity.. Might just force Lyoto to go offensive.
ufoalf
06-07-2008, 06:38 PM
Actually.. I think a good match might be Rashad Evans vs. Lyoto. Seriously, two very boring tactical styles that have short outbursts of excitement every few rounds..
Rashad, so tentative to do anything.. Lyoto, always waiting for opportunity.. Might just force Lyoto to go offensive.
They just might touch gloves and air jab for 15 minutes.
They just might touch gloves and air jab for 15 minutes. Thats sort of my point. But I think in this case Lyoto would have to start showing some offense. Lets remember, Rashad has been doing Lyoto in the UFC longer than Lyoto has been doing Lyoto in the UFC.. Lyoto has IMO far more potential than Rashad. His fight against Soko was entertaining, but he needs to fight against exciting fighters to make any sort of entertaining fight.
Do you not gain points for being the aggressor in UFC? YOu have to very aggressive to beat someone like machido and take your lumps. I do believe that Sylva would be aggressive enough but Machida is better on the ground and take downs he sets people up well. Rashad would probably get picked apart Forest could jab and hopefully keep him off balance but who knows Machida is interesting to watch he fights like a point karate person. some people find that boring but i find it interesting. Chuck is smart. How much does machida weigh didn't he used to fight at 185 he looks small compared to some of the other 205 people. Sylva should fight the other guy you mentioned and beat Rampage Which i think that he probably would Rock paper scissors
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