Lockett says WBU made him more money than British title fights.

[robpalmer135]

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can this be true??? Surley there is more intrest in the british titles?

[Betty Swollocks]

whenever I hear Lockett talking it's money money money, he admits he's only in the sport for the money. He also went on about how he's got a property portfolio...why even bring this up?
Guys like this are crap for the sport, he's a WBU turkey and I look forward to him getting banjoed this weekend.

[Bodysnatcher]

whenever I hear Lockett talking it's money money money, he admits he's only in the sport for the money. He also went on about how he's got a property portfolio...why even bring this up?
Guys like this are crap for the sport, he's a WBU turkey and I look forward to him getting banjoed this weekend.

Just read his BBC interview.

It's the singularly most uninspiring pre-fight interview I've ever read.

As you say, he blathers on incessantly about money and his private financial affairs and businesses, admits he prefers Rugby and Football and talks like someone with almost no real love for the sport of boxing.

I mean, he's entitled to his views, but it doesn't exactly get my blood pumping as a fan.

I was going to sign up today for Setanta again to watch this fight, but after reading that I'm seriously re-considering it, might as well wait until Pac vs Diaz.

[J-Dog]

Bad crack, reminds me of Jermain Taylor a bit, dont like it, it gets ya back up for some obscure reason but in all fairness i spose its up to him.

If he dont love the sport and is just in it for cash who am i to neg about it......im still gonna watch it.










The selfish money loving prick i hope Pavlik beats the love of the sport into his bones......

[Betty Swollocks]

Just read his BBC interview.

It's the singularly most uninspiring pre-fight interview I've ever read.

As you say, he blathers on incessantly about money and his private financial affairs and businesses, admits he prefers Rugby and Football and talks like someone with almost no real love for the sport of boxing.

I mean, he's entitled to his views, but it doesn't exactly get my blood pumping as a fan.

I was going to sign up today for Setanta again to watch this fight, but after reading that I'm seriously re-considering it, might as well wait until Khan vs Diaz.

yeah and on top of that a couple of the Welsh lads on here reckon he walks around town giving it the billy big bollocks routine. I can believe that seeing his boring interviews. Lets hope he gets smashed this weekend.

[Claypole]

"I couldn’t really care about the glory, first and foremost it’s about money." (from the timesonline article)

How disappointing. I always thought that Gary Lockett's attitude was a bit too laid back, a bit too respectful, and now I know why. He's simply a businessman who doesn't even like boxing.
Before I knew all this shit, I would have given him a very small chance against Pavlik, now I would say he has virtually no chance whatsoever.

Does Lockett still deserve our support? Sure.....if he wants to pay for it.

[chesh]

I know he's not a trash-talker, but I would have liked to read or hear something from Lockett which suggests he really believes he can win this fight. Instead, on Setanta yesterday, he was saying that watching video of Pavlik getting hurt by a temple shot gives him "a little bit of hope". I think this fight, for him, just represents a bit more financial security. I'm tempted to support Kelly in this. He's got the real fighter's attitude.

[LB3000]

Dissapointing to hear him come out with something like that. Nothing wrong with admitting you want to want to make money but to say you couldn't care about the glory is a joke.

[robpalmer135]

yeh, could also be a ploy, make it seem to Pavlik hes only showing up for the cash. Would be very clever,doubt it though.

[UKITAZ]

How much do you reckon he's gettign for the Pavlik fight ??

[Claypole]

yeh, could also be a ploy, make it seem to Pavlik hes only showing up for the cash. Would be very clever,doubt it though.
Even if Lockett is pulling a clever stunt, and Pavlik has fallen for it, it still wouldn't make the slightest bit difference. The difference in class is huge.

[Benjiabc]

Bad crack, reminds me of Jermain Taylor a bit, dont like it, it gets ya back up for some obscure reason but in all fairness i spose its up to him.

If he dont love the sport and is just in it for cash who am i to neg about it......im still gonna watch it.










The selfish money loving prick i hope Pavlik beats the love of the sport into his bones......


the difference is jermaine loved the sport

[SleazeNation]

It's the the same thing as Joe Calzaghe always used to say in interviews a few years back.

[GazOC]

It's the the same thing as Joe Calzaghe always used to say in interviews a few years back.

he was still saying before Kessler that that was the fight that would make him financially secure, I think his divorce set him back a fair bit though...

It doesn't surprise me one bit that a WBU title is "worth" more than a British title, any "world title" will get the casual fans out more than a British title.

Hardly inspiring stuff from Lockett though, it sounds like he's resigned to taking his lumps and pocketting the money. I still hope he wins though.

[chesh]

How much do you reckon he's gettign for the Pavlik fight ??

I don't know, but I'd guess in the region of £100k.

[Icky Monker]

Lockett is making $250,000 [Only registered and activated users can see links]

I've read other interviews where he seems genuinly up for it, talks about the prestigious and legendary names that have fought for the middleweight title and how all of his low profile, low paid fights have been worth it to get to where he is now. I think he is up for it and I think he will quietly believe in himself that he might be able to win.


I'll be watching. I like Pavlik but can't help but support the underdog.


All aboard the Lockett Rocket.


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[King]

I don't know, but I'd guess in the region of £100k.


Apparently it is 5 timnes his best purse so he is getting in the region of $300k ( £150K).


If hew wins then hre would get at east $1M for the rematch and if he loves money, he will fight his best tomorrow night.

Bow to the king.


:yep

[Claypole]

Apparently it is 5 times his best purse so he is getting in the region of $300k ( £150K).
Is itt worth it though, considering he is facing a pasting five time worse than he has previously had?

[GazOC]

I'd say so. That sort of money sets you up for life.

[Max Molyneux]

Hatton said In his book that the WBU paid the bills while the British title was nice so.

Doubt Sports Network fighters would choose the WBU If It didn't make them more money.

He also said the Abraham offer was a low purse plus 5 options If he won.

[dwilson]

I hope Lockett wins but what ever the outcome of the fight and what ever comes next for him he can be seriously proud of his achievments in the sport. Lockett has fought a decent a class of opposition that is comparable with anything a British or Commonwealth title holder would face.


I heard Oakey say a similar thing about his WBU reign that it brought better pay than other belts.

[TFFP]

The WBU is a joke. Not even close to the prestige of the WBO, for example

[dwilson]

The WBU is a joke. Not even close to the prestige of the WBO, for example



Yep but certain fighters can make it work for themselves and fair dues to em. I always like a guy to do it the old fashioned way.

[kurt2006]

The WBU is a joke. Not even close to the prestige of the WBO, for example

Joe public see world chamption and they do not care if it is WBU, WBF or WBC (apart from when Audley Harisson became WBF Heavyweight champ) :lol:

I guess Hattons reign as WBU champ has cemented the title in people's minds as a genuine title.

[GazOC]

Joe public see world chamption and they do not care if it is WBU, WBF or WBC

Even the TV compaines who should know better will pay more for fight with "world title" attached.

[kurt2006]

Even the TV compaines who should know better will pay more for fight with "world title" attached.

True especially ITV, when Jennings defended his WBU welterweight title against Ross Minter they made a real big deal out of it. The funny thing was when Minter senior was interviewed and he began to b/s about it being a big world title fight for Ross.

[jc]

Fact is, this is this is their job, If I was offered 50k for a shot at the WBU or 20k for a shot at the Commonwealth, Im taking the WBU route everyday of the week.

Fact is why are fake world titles getting boxers paid more? where is the extra cash coming from? If a domestic level fighter sells out the York Hall defending his british title on SkySports, why would another domestic level fighter get paid more for selling out the same hall and fighting on the same channel? Who decides what titles are worthy of more money? It certainly isnt anybody who knows about boxing.

[jc]

Hatton said In his book that the WBU paid the bills while the British title was nice so.

Doubt Sports Network fighters would choose the WBU If It didn't make them more money.

He also said the Abraham offer was a low purse plus 5 options If he won.

I found it strange that Abrahams promoters would be worried about losing to Lockett so much that they would be asking for options five fights ahead...?

[TFFP]

I found it strange that Abrahams promoters would be worried about losing to Lockett so much that they would be asking for options five fights ahead...?
They were probably asking for options if Lockett lost too. They are Germans.

[jamel]

I want to fight Gary Lockett next, after Pavlik is finished with him of course. I would like a purse of at least £1000 if Enzo is watching give us a chance I walk around at 11 1/2 stone and at 6'0 I would box his head off. Lets face it, it won't be hard after Pavlik smashes him.

[Betty Swollocks]

Gary 'i've got 2 buy to let properties' Lockett is going to get wasted this weekend, and I cant wait to see it.

[Beatboxer]

I was rooting for Lockett due to the plucky underdog thing but ive changed my tune.

Like Pavlik anyway.

[hitman_hatton1]

lockett's got no chance.

i was looking at his record the other day and he has just fought nothing remotely comparable to pavlik.

unless he's getting calzaghe kicking his arse in sparring every day. :yep he's getting eaten up here. :patsch

[jamel]

lockett's got no chance.

i was looking at his record the other day and he has just fought nothing remotely comparable to pavlik.

unless he's getting calzaghe kicking his arse in sparring every day. :yep he's getting eaten up here. :patsch This will be an early night for Pavlik as Lockett will be taking a nap in the Third or fourth round.

[Claypole]

This will be an early night for Pavlik as Lockett will be taking a nap in the Third or fourth round.I thought the same, until I found out Lockett doesn't even like boxing. With his worrying attitude towards the sport, I reckon he could be all done within the first 3 minutes.

[TheChamp1000]

I thought the same, until I found out Lockett doesn't even like boxing. With his worrying attitude towards the sport, I reckon he could be all done within the first 3 minutes.

Maybe the class gulf is big. Lots of boxers stated in the past they were mainly/only in it for the money. Chris Eubank is a chap who hated the sport and would tell you this at any opportunity. He could still box though.

[King]

lockett's got no chance.

i was looking at his record the other day and he has just fought nothing remotely comparable to pavlik.

unless he's getting calzaghe kicking his arse in sparring every day. :yep he's getting eaten up here. :patsch


Well, Haton had fought nothing aoart from rubbish until he fought KT and we all know HAtton wrestled his are and fouled him into sumission!

Are you the HitmanHatton1 lesbian from Doghouse?

Go for the Lockett, launch thyself in to the big time!

[dan-b]

This is what the WBO throw up as their "number one" challenger.:rofl

[skellington]

Think people are are being way to hard on the guy. He's entitled to take the route that will make his future secure.
So what if he says he prefers rugby? Boxings a dirty business, and at 33 he's probably seen quite alot of it. He's probably disappointed/disillusioned with how his career has turned out.
Don't be hard on the guy, he's only human, hope he does alright against Pavlik.

[Claypole]

This is what the WBO throw up as their "number one" challenger.:roflThis the biggest joke of the sanctioning bodies. The only way Lockett should have got a shot at Pavlik is if he was asked to step in as a very last minute replacement, as a favour so the show could still go on.
This fight has been on the cards for ages though, there must be plenty of middleweight contenders wondering what they need to do to get a break like this.

[Claypole]

He's probably disappointed/disillusioned with how his career has turned out.
So who's he going to blame for that? He's admitted he was quite happy to take the money and go down the WBU route. I've never even heard him calling anybody out (even at domestic level).
I seriously hope he gets a bit of ambition tonight, if all he is thinking about is the money then he is in serious trouble.

[GazOC]

To be fair, any muppet can "call people out"....it doesn't mean shit 99% of the time.

[Claypole]

To be fair, any muppet can "call people out"....it doesn't mean shit 99% of the time.Maybe, but naming possible opponents at least shows some kind of ambition. Statements such as "I'll let my manager decide who I fight next" usually means "I'll fight any old tomato can you want as long as the money keeps coming in".

[GazOC]

I regard that as being honest as thats what usually happens, the manager decides the opponents. Calling people out, esp. when you know as a boxing fan the fights are unlikely to happen, just makes the boxer sound like a gobshite a lot of the time.

[TFFP]

Yeah, Ricky Hatton is a bit of a gobshite.

[GazOC]

Yeah, Ricky Hatton is a bit of a gobshite.
Obsessed.:lol:

Thats you off the "better posters" list....

[TFFP]

Obsessed.:lol:

Thats you off the "better posters" list....
:rofl

Damn

[GazOC]

;)

[skellington]

I wish more fighters were as honest as Lockett.
It's showbusiness though isn't it? I read the interview and I must admit it was less than inspiring.
If a band said on the release on their new album "It's not all that good, to be honest we're only going through the motions, the mrs wants the bathroom retiling." would you be excited about it's release?
It's good to be honest, but abit of razmatazz never did anyone any harm ;)

[dan-b]

All this is academic. Lockett is going to get the shit beaten out of him later. I can't wait.:good

[Claypole]

I wish more fighters were as honest as Lockett.I think fighters are generally honest when it comes to stating their ambitions and dreams. They will all state they want a decent payday, but unlike Lockett, they want the glory as well.
In fact, I'm not so sure Gary Lockett is being honest. He says he doesn't care about the glory, but that has to be bollocks, surely?

[dan-b]

I think fighters are generally honest when it comes to stating their ambitions and dreams. They will all state they want a decent payday, but unlike Lockett, they want the glory as well.
In fact, I'm not so sure Gary Lockett is being honest. He says he doesn't care about the glory, but that has to be bollocks, surely?

Good old Claypole. Highlighting the double standards of the ignoramus's.

[GazOC]

"Idiots" would be a better word, at least you could have a decent stab at spelling it correctly...:p;)

[dan-b]

"Idiots" would be a better word, at least you could have a decent stab at spelling it correctly...:p;)

Sorry I used the collective instead of the plural.

[GazOC]

:good:lol:

[dan-b]

:good:lol:

Mmmm.....are we going down the grammar route on here now? I could be a right cunt (even more of a cunt) if so.:lol:

[GazOC]

Wot yer trying too say? That we dont sp3ll 2 gud around hear?

[dan-b]

Wot yer trying too say?

I'm saying I might turn up in Bootle with my Ronaldo shirt on & offer ya out ya mug!:lol:

[dan-b]

Clamp your gypsy lips tightly around my anal sphincter and syphon juicy terds down your throat. Hopefully one will go down the wrong way & get lodged in one of your lungs so you suffer permanent shitbreath.

Boxers are the biggest bullshitters on the planet.

Not exactly sure what your point is but great post.:lol:

[Betty Swollocks]

I think fighters are generally honest when it comes to stating their ambitions and dreams. They will all state they want a decent payday, but unlike Lockett, they want the glory as well.
In fact, I'm not so sure Gary Lockett is being honest. He says he doesn't care about the glory, but that has to be bollocks, surely?

I think he's saying that to take the heat off it he gets banged out early, he knows there's a good chance of that.
Lockett is a turd, I hope he gets utterly wasted inside a round.

[jamel]

Well, Haton had fought nothing aoart from rubbish until he fought KT and we all know HAtton wrestled his are and fouled him into sumission!

Are you the HitmanHatton1 lesbian from Doghouse?

Go for the Lockett, launch thyself in to the big time!

At least he had fought a 7-8 years past his prime former IBF World Lightweight Champ Freddie Pendleton

Vince Phillips - Former IBF World Light Welterweight Champ,

Ben Tackie - Two time World Light Welterweight Title Challenger

Plus a few other Former World, European, NABF or USBA Challengers or Title holders.

Lockett's only decent opponent has been Ryan Rhodes and although he was well past his prime, he still floored him and almost beat him. Lockett has faced no-one in Pavlik's league and for good reason. His people know that if he fought Zuniga, Miranda or even Asikainen he would likely be beaten so they held out for a good opportunity and it has finally arrived, he can have his payday and go back to obscurity.

[BamBam]

I didn't really have anything against Lockett before but after reading that bollocks I hope he gets starched about 20 seconds into the fight.

[Betty Swollocks]

glad he got wasted, the guy will not get close to earning that amount of money again. Back to fighting stiffs for the WBU.

[Lucky Punch]

Lockett the sort of person who might retire after that.

[DamonD]

Well, it's good that he has a handy revenue stream still available to him.
Back to the WBU and the ******-brand easy touches.

[rumour24tiger]

No one else except ****** promotes WBU fights.

Sky Sports won't touch WBU title fights any more (and it has a lot to do with the above and the quality of fights that were served when they were in contract with ******).

Setanta don't seem to encourage it, which Bunce hinted at last night.

So what does that leave? Not much. ITV - But Khan is Commonwealth champ and WBO #1 so he hardly needs one. These sub WBO belts could slowly get pushed out.

Titles that have been made up in the last 10-15 yrs, that begin with W or I, may sound like world titles but when you look at the fights, it's plain that the action is not in the slightest world class. It may have given fighters more chance to make money, but it worked wonders causing fan alienation. There is now a massive rift between what is good for fans and what is good for fighters. This rift needs repairing. Boxing is better than it was now, but the quality domestic fights we see aren't for really good money unless the combatants are squaring off for some version of a world title.

[robpalmer135]

they surve a purpose though, there like junior titles. gets u fighting 12 rounds, Sky sold hatton vs Lazcano as a world title fight and that was the IBO.
What i wanna know is how the hell did they let the WBA and IBF, and even WBO mean anything, why wernt they ignored like WBU or WBF and IBO.

[DamonD]

Well, the WBA belt is the very original one...after that, the WBC came along, then the IBF, then the WBO.

The IBF gained tremendously by having Larry Holmes champion it, followed a little while later by Tyson.

While the WBO has had a longer tougher road, it's only really during this decade that its become more accepted, due to better fighters holding and competing for it.

[kungfu]

Doesnt bother me what he says, he has a right. If one of you had a game of tiddly winks next week and found you where shit hot at it and could make some dosh wining contests...u saying you wouldnt dive in and try and milk it for a financially secure future for a few years? Who says you have to love tiddly winks and the history of it etc :p

[Claypole]

Who says you have to love tiddly winks and the history of it etc :pThis ain't tiddlywinks we're discussing here. I honestly think if Lockett had any desire for glory then he would have put on a reasonable show, and maybe he wouldn't have got quite the pounding he ended up getting.
In my opinion Gary Lockett has shown a lack of self respect over this. If he doesn't mind, then good for him, but I won't be supporting him any more.

[kungfu]

Aye, i suppose u gotta keep the fans happy too :/

[ron u.k.]

Well, Haton had fought nothing aoart from rubbish until he fought KT and we all know HAtton wrestled his are and fouled him into sumission!

Are you the HitmanHatton1 lesbian from Doghouse?

Go for the Lockett, launch thyself in to the big time!yea.long live the king!
who with this post has confirmed that his total knowledge of boxing you could write down on the back of a postage stamp!

[Beeston Brawler]

Not all of Hatton's WBU fights were against chumps - about half if you ask me. The trouble was that Hatton was so far in front of even the best ones in class that they looked 'chumplike'.

They would, however, stand more 'credibility' (in some eyes) had they been for either traditional belts, or staged over ten rounds as tune up fights often are in the US - but over here every fight seems to be for a belt, even graveyard bouts and show openers, which is rather silly IMO.

[ron u.k.]

Not all of Hatton's WBU fights were against chumps - about half if you ask me. The trouble was that Hatton was so far in front of even the best ones in class that they looked 'chumplike'.

They would, however, stand more 'credibility' (in some eyes) had they been for either traditional belts, or staged over ten rounds as tune up fights often are in the US - but over here every fight seems to be for a belt, even graveyard bouts and show openers, which is rather silly IMO.agree:good

[Beeston Brawler]

Summary of Hatton's WBU career:

23. Tony Pep 42-7-1 - Worthwhile
24. Jason Rowland 25-1 - British/Euro title??
25. John Bailey 19-7-2 - Chump
26. Freddie Pendleton 47-25-5 - ???? Should have been earlier ????
27. ****** Rowsell 31-1-2 - Past prime
28. Mikhail Krivolapov 34-2 - Good opponent - step up needed
29. Eamon Magee 23-2 - Decent opponent, learning curve - step up needed
30. Stephen Smith 31-1 - Padded record, chump.
31. Joe Hutchinson 25-3-2 - Average fighter - time to step up!!
32. Vince Phillips 44-7-1 - Good opponent, learning curve - progress
33. Aldo Rios 35-2 - Decent lightweight, sideways step
34. Ben Tackie 24-4 Good gatekeeper, slight step forward
35. Dennis Pedersen 44-2 Total chump, ten steps backward - wtf is going on?
36. Carlos Vilches 41-4-2 Ditto
37. Michael Stewart 36-2-2 Average opponent, possibly good five fights previous (32)
38. Ray Oliveira 47-9-2 Decent tune up although past prime, possibly ok earlier in career (30)

Basically mostly decent fighters, but the step up was confusing in that it was not gradual, peaks and troughs.

[zulander]

Pedersen was a later replacement if memory serves
but as u have pointed out there are some less than stellar fighters on hattons record that said there was some decent competition like Krivolapov, Mcgee and Tackie

[King]

yea.long live the king!
who with this post has confirmed that his total knowledge of boxing you could write down on the back of a postage stamp! If that postage stamp is 5 miles wide! It is more in hope that lockett would win. I have over 2 decades of knowledge of the sport..you? Bow to the King!

[ron u.k.]

If that postage stamp is 5 miles wide! It is more in hope that lockett would win. I have over 2 decades of knowledge of the sport..you? Bow to the King!well i've got 4 so there! :hi:

[dan-b]

i think some of you forget that professional boxing is a job. when you work for your job is about money?

fucking retards.

True, but I don't walk around pretending to be a world champion or sell it as such to the public.

By the way, if you're going to refer to people as "fucking retards" you may want to look at your own grammar first.:good

[kurt2006]

I wonder if JC made any money selling tickets for this one.

[dan-b]

I wonder if JC made any money selling tickets for this one.

He'd probably make more money selling his ass to TFFP.:good

[scurlaruntings]

Lockett the sort of person who might retire after that.:thumbsup Yup your bang on the money there. Lockett is comfortable. i dont think he wants boxing anymore. Shame as his career has been such a waste. He could have achieved so much more. He kind of reminds me of Tokunbe Olajide. Another light middle who only boxed because of his lineage and the fact that he was naturally good at it. But ultimately he had no real interest in the sport or its glory. Garys the same. Hence why he defended the WBU so many times.

[scurlaruntings]

This is what the WBO throw up as their "number one" challenger.:roflHis a "Classic" WBO number 1 challenger!:lol:

[BigEars]

His a "Classic" WBO number 1 challenger!:lol:

Samuel Kedebe

[King]

well i've got 4 so there! :hi:


Senile old git!


:yep