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Stinky gloves
07-20-2007, 03:07 AM
in this year so far?

I would think of someone who you think will faill the very next
time no matter who he will face .... all divisions counts.

Illmatic
07-20-2007, 03:08 AM
Lovemore Ndou!

To call him a paper champ wouldve been an insult to paper champs everywhere.

TheGreat
07-20-2007, 03:13 AM
Cintron.

myk
07-20-2007, 03:13 AM
David Diaz
Daisuke Naito

Illmatic
07-20-2007, 03:17 AM
Cintron.

hes beaten some decent comp for a titlist. There are many worse.

Ndou is first, and some other like Macca, Classen, that super middle ibf titlist now...

Laura
07-20-2007, 03:31 AM
Lovemore Ndou!

To call him a paper champ wouldve been an insult to paper champs everywhere.

Agreed. Decent fighter but nothin great.

Illmatic
07-20-2007, 03:32 AM
Agreed. Decent fighter but nothin great.

plus the title was just handed to him and he didnt defend it once

hellblazer
07-20-2007, 03:56 AM
Mzonke Fana

nervousxtian
07-20-2007, 07:57 AM
BY DIVISION (weakest champ):

200+ - Maskaev
200 - Virgil Hill
175 - Stipe Drews
168 - Alejandro Berrio
160 - Felix Sturm
154 - Joachim Alcine
147 - Cintron
140 - Souleymane M’baye
135 - David Diaz
130 - Mzonke Fana
126 - Robert Guerrero

Below 126- I don't know the guys enough to comment.

Fana is probably the worst of all those champs.

Relentless
07-20-2007, 07:59 AM
what about ricardo torres?

thewoo
07-20-2007, 08:17 AM
200 - Virgil Hill


Shit when 2 other guys can claim to be champ of you same division at your same weight, you know your shit is weak

*BOX_FAN*
07-20-2007, 08:19 AM
Stipe Drews

BigReg
07-20-2007, 08:20 AM
I don't know about this year, but last year it was Zab. Anyone who loses and still gets to keep their belt just because his opponent was too poor to pay the sanctioning fee is truly undeserving.

Napuis
07-20-2007, 08:27 AM
Junior Witter.

warrior85
07-20-2007, 09:19 AM
Junior Witter.


i agree he is weak,but so was ndou&m'baye isnt exactly championship material,regardless of who he won the title off jermain taylor is right up there his last 2 performances made sure of that

PrideOfWales
07-20-2007, 09:22 AM
Enzo Maccarinelli

I like him but he is the most undeserving world champ. Got his title in a rematch of a domestic fight with Mark Hobson. He got to number 1 rank in the WBO by fighting weak boxers and no doubt a few back handers from Frank ******. Then after being given the title, he fights Bobby Gunn.

Credit to him for fighting Braithwaite though.

knockout
07-20-2007, 09:59 AM
well to me it was Pong wonjongkam till he lost his title:yep

geppy
07-20-2007, 10:09 AM
Mundine is the most undeserving ever. Twice Mundine lost World title shots,but the WBA invented and handed two belts to Mundine even while the champions that beat him still had the belts.

Sweet Scientist
07-20-2007, 10:48 AM
I don't know about this year, but last year it was Zab. Anyone who loses and still gets to keep their belt just because his opponent was too poor to pay the sanctioning fee is truly undeserving.

Yeah. I 3rd that.

But get real...Maskaev is more deserving than Ibragimov.

retriever
07-20-2007, 10:54 AM
Fana

Stinky gloves
07-20-2007, 01:09 PM
Calzaghe, everybody beside his core fans think he will fail the very
next time but he simply refuses to do ... and all the poor defenses
he is taking for years are sign he is not deserving to be called champion:smoke


























Just kidding :yep

CASH_718
07-20-2007, 01:19 PM
I think Valuev has to be on the list. Briggs is also not far from the list.Your about 3 months to late.

chewy 22
07-20-2007, 01:28 PM
David Diaz, Macenelli, N'Dou, Felix Sturm, Berrio, soon Alex Arthur.

PrideOfWales
07-20-2007, 02:08 PM
Calzaghe, everybody beside his core fans think he will fail the very
next time but he simply refuses to do ... and all the poor defenses
he is taking for years are sign he is not deserving to be called champion:smoke


























Just kidding :yep

Jesus Christ - I was almost about to jump off Joe's scrotum then

PolishPummler
07-20-2007, 02:16 PM
Stipe Drews

:good

Little homo twice rescheduled against Dawson for a WBC title eliminator as a delay tactic only to pull out of the fight once he learned that the WBA was vacated and he could fight a 40 year old man for it.

BxN
07-20-2007, 02:17 PM
Daisuke Naito
Do you even know him ?

Even if I don't think he beat Pong(who looked passed is prime), there's a reason why he earned the decision.

He's easily a top 5 in the flyweight division.

Back to the main subjet, Sultan Ibragimov, Shannon Briggs, Nikolai Valuev, Ruslan Chagaev and Eric Aiken comme to mind.

Napuis
07-22-2007, 06:21 AM
It has to be Gavin Rees now. How did he even get a shot. Hatton needs to clean up these bitches.

Smazz20
07-22-2007, 06:32 AM
It has to be Gavin Rees now. How did he even get a shot. Hatton needs to clean up these bitches.

He does. Everyone's screaming for a Hatton/Witter fight, and i'd love to see it myself. But i'd actually really like to see Wiiter fight Malignaggi. Hatton can beat the fuck out of Rees and then fight the winner of the other two.

Spitfire7
07-22-2007, 08:06 AM
IBF 130 lbs.

Vantage_West
07-22-2007, 08:16 AM
BY DIVISION (weakest champ):

200+ - Maskaev
200 - Virgil Hill
175 - Stipe Drews
168 - Alejandro Berrio
160 - Felix Sturm
154 - Joachim Alcine
147 - Cintron
140 - Souleymane M’baye
135 - David Diaz
130 - Mzonke Fana
126 - Robert Guerrero

Below 126- I don't know the guys enough to comment.

Fana is probably the worst of all those champs.virgil hill:patsch maybve the most solid boxer of are era he doesnt age. he has every tool he was lightheavies main man in the early 90's and is still beating guys today

Fat Tony
07-22-2007, 08:33 AM
virgil hill:patsch maybve the most solid boxer of are era he doesnt age. he has every tool he was lightheavies main man in the early 90's and is still beating guys today

He lost to Henry Maske! It was Maske's first fight since 10 years. Maske is as old as Hill. And it wasn't a robbery.
So don't tell me, Hill deserves a belt. It's a joke that he NEVER has to defend his "WBA regular" title.
Put Hill in the ring with Mormeck, Bell, Huck, Haye or Macca and he'll be annihilated within 3 rounds.

ApatheticLeader
07-22-2007, 08:33 AM
virgil hill:patsch maybve the most solid boxer of are era he doesnt age. he has every tool he was lightheavies main man in the early 90's and is still beating guys todayI think Virgil Hill is ripe for that taking. In his prime he would destroy the other Cruiserweight champs but...

Vantage_West
07-22-2007, 08:34 AM
Koki Kameda
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15 fights fought and he has a title which he didnt deserve to win.

in his first 6 fights not one man NOT ONE had a win on there record.
his technique is awful no power and does ippo impressions weak chin low speed just the most protected fighter on the planet

BigEars
07-22-2007, 08:39 AM
IBF 130 lbs.

Mzonke Fana is the name you're looking for , hopefully Arthur can take care of him and get some of the belts together .

Spitfire7
07-22-2007, 10:42 AM
Mzonke Fana is the name you're looking for , hopefully Arthur can take care of him and get some of the belts together .

Since Malcolm Klassen, and now Mzonke Fana--the IBF 130 had been the epitome of the word "Chump."

If Arthur's going to fight that tomato can Fana, IBF will at least no longer have a laughable "Champion" as Alex is far respectable. Is there a confirmed fight date already?

BigEars
07-22-2007, 09:07 PM
Since Malcolm Klassen, and now Mzonke Fana--the IBF 130 had been the epitome of the word "Chump."

If Arthur's going to fight that tomato can Fana, IBF will at least no longer have a laughable "Champion" as Alex is far respectable. Is there a confirmed fight date already?

I'm just saying what ****** should do , there's a good chance this fight isn't even being considered let alone taking place .

If Arthur rematches Gomez without Gomez having won a meaningfull fight on his comeback I'm gonna be tearing my hair out because it's not like a fight with Fana would be hard to make .

andyZOR
07-22-2007, 09:11 PM
Zsolt Erdei.

Jinx
07-22-2007, 09:23 PM
what about ricardo torres?

Torres could've and should've starched Cotto...so for that reason i can't sell him as a weak titlist, especially when compared to M'Baye...

theunderdog
07-22-2007, 10:04 PM
fana!!! man, that dude must not be a champion. he barely survived against the filipino that baby bull dominated and was blasted by mab. what the hell is he doing with a title?

theunderdog
07-22-2007, 10:51 PM
All the IBO champions

hatton? wlad? weakest and undeserving?? wtf?

El Bombasto
07-22-2007, 11:00 PM
Otis Triple OG Griffin