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boxingcar
06-07-2008, 09:03 AM
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Tuffnutz
06-07-2008, 09:59 AM
It's a tragedy if Anderson does'nt move up to 205.

I couldn't stand seeing him beating up punks at 185 for the rest of his career.

québecwarrior
06-07-2008, 10:57 AM
wow, talking about a mega fight!!!
I hope there is enough in the tank of Liddell to make it nice!!!

jimmie
06-07-2008, 11:49 AM
Ive been hearing Liddells going to have a big fight in September and this is the only one that really made sense especially considering Silvas status as a fighter unlike a Shogun or a Dan Henderson who are losing fights. Also hes been sitting around for 3 months with no scheduled fight

sugarngold
06-07-2008, 12:07 PM
I was really hoping for a GSP vs Anderson Silva match at some point in the near future of the UFC - but I suppose if BJ Penn and GSP can keep each other busy then it's acceptable for Anderson Silva tests the waters of 205. I hope he carries enough power up to 205. Silva seems to possess the perfect blend of speed and power at 185 lbs.

québecwarrior
06-07-2008, 12:22 PM
95 percent of Sherdog are saying that Silva is gonna kill Liddell in the first..
I don't take this clown seriously..
if that so obvious that Silva would kill Liddell in the first round..I don't think that Dana would do that to Chuck no?

ufoalf
06-07-2008, 12:38 PM
That's Silva's best option at 205. The styles match up well for him and its a big name to add to his resume.

Tuffnutz
06-07-2008, 12:52 PM
95 percent of Sherdog are saying that Silva is gonna kill Liddell in the first..
I don't take this clown seriously..
if that so obvious that Silva would kill Liddell in the first round..I don't think that Dana would do that to Chuck no?

Chucks got nothing to beat Anderson.

Anderson will either KHTFO or stirke his ears off.

He's too one dimensional and can't hurt Silva either imo.

I fully expect Silva to give Chuck a striking lesson. :deal

sugarngold
06-07-2008, 01:14 PM
Chucks got nothing to beat Anderson.

Anderson will either KHTFO or stirke his ears off.

He's too one dimensional and can't hurt Silva either imo.

I fully expect Silva to give Chuck a striking lesson. :deal

It's entirely possible that Silva is too fast for Liddell and would easily outwork him over the course of 3 rounds. However, Liddell always has a puncher's chance. He is a puncher to the last.

I would very much like to see this fight.

Tko4
06-07-2008, 01:17 PM
This would be pretty awesome. I'm curious to see how Silva will carry the extra weight, though. He's a pretty scrawny dude.

Tuffnutz
06-07-2008, 01:43 PM
It's entirely possible that Silva is too fast for Liddell and would easily outwork him over the course of 3 rounds. However, Liddell always has a puncher's chance. He is a puncher to the last.

I would very much like to see this fight.

Silva has shown a great chin though.

I dont give Chuck much of a chance at all in this fight tbh.

québecwarrior
06-07-2008, 02:04 PM
Chucks got nothing to beat Anderson.

Anderson will either KHTFO or stirke his ears off.

He's too one dimensional and can't hurt Silva either imo.

I fully expect Silva to give Chuck a striking lesson. :deal
Liddell can hurt everyone fuckin chin

codeman99998
06-07-2008, 02:07 PM
I imagine Anderson not bothering to bulk up too much when he moved up to 205.

It seems pretty clear to me that Anderson hits hard enough to KO most 205lbers without bothering to bulk up. It's his amazing technique and accuracy that makes him so devastating, as much as it is his natural power.

Chuck Lidell is no easy stepping stone for ANYONE at 205, Anderson Silva or no. I predict a Silva KO 2, but that is just because I believe the Spider is actually Superman in disguise.

Mob
06-07-2008, 02:25 PM
Liddell is too big. Unless he gets old overnight...as the old axiom goes, a good big man usually beats a great littler man.

phonk
06-07-2008, 03:16 PM
Are we not jumping the gun a little bit?

Liddels leg damn near fell off a couple of months back.

You really think he'll be fit enough to fight in September?

bachatu
06-07-2008, 03:45 PM
Silva managed to hurt Henderson and get him to the ground. IMO he could have KO'd Henderson towards the end if Henderson wouldn't have dropped. As long as he (silva) wouldn't get caught with any big shots himself, I don't see Chuck winning this. Remember, Keith Jardine had a lot of success with Chuck by moving in and out and kicking. But then Again, Chuck is taller than most guys Silva has faced.

radianttwilight
06-07-2008, 04:00 PM
Am I the only one who thinks this is actually a decent matchup for Liddell?

On a second note - How about Silva-Machida for a title eliminator at 205? Not that Machida doesn't already deserve a shot, but still.

IntentionalButt
06-07-2008, 07:02 PM
Liddell can hurt everyone fuckin chin

:-(

Coast
06-07-2008, 08:26 PM
I think Chuck's well on the downside of his career at this point. He's had his share of wars and he's partied his ass off.

Wanderlei was a great style matchup in that he came right at him and doesn't throw straight puches. He neglected his Muay Thai as well for some reason. Chuck also had a significant height/reach advantage against Wand. None of those would be the case against Anderson. I think style wise, this one definitely favors The Spider.

Koa
06-07-2008, 08:50 PM
Both guys have the KO power to finish one another off without question..

Something to consider is that Silva doesn't maintain that comfortable height advantage he has had against every opponent he has faced to date.. When you watch Anderson, he can be very good defensively with head movement, but that type of movement is only good when you know you can time your opponents strikes.. Chuck isn't exactly a predictable striker in that sense.. Most of his knockouts come from very random looping shots that guys don't expect half the time.. So Chuck has a very decent shot imo. I wouldn't say this is a gimme for Anderson at all.

elixirvtec
06-07-2008, 09:07 PM
I would say that anderson silva is the best striker in the UFC today. He is just so accourate with his shots. If I had to put money on this fight. It would be Silva 100%

Rattler
06-07-2008, 11:32 PM
I'd like to see Anderson have a warm up at 205; just to see what the extra weight does to him. Also, give Liddell enough time to properly rehab. If he's gonna beat Silva, he's gonna need to stay moving all night long.

AJAX
06-08-2008, 02:14 AM
Silva has shown a great chin though.

I dont give Chuck much of a chance at all in this fight tbh.

you don't give Chuck Liddel a chance in a fight???? wow that is quite a statment, I give him a dam good shot.

elixirvtec
06-08-2008, 02:37 AM
you don't give Chuck Liddel a chance in a fight???? wow that is quite a statment, I give him a dam good shot.

U probably that he had a good chance against rampage also. He didn't stand a chance against him.

AJAX
06-08-2008, 02:42 AM
U probably that he had a good chance against rampage also. He didn't stand a chance against him.

of course, your a hind sight 20\20 expert arn't you? I'll bet you could predict every fight after it happens:roll:

Polymath
06-08-2008, 04:19 AM
Chuck has tons of chance to win this, in fact I'd back him to. He's much bigger framed than Silva and will prob. way outweigh him on the night; I could even envision Chuck taking him down and pounding him out.

godking
06-08-2008, 06:41 AM
liddel would be destroyed.

If a lesser striker in Rampage can easily control the range against Liddel Silva will destroy Liddel.

AJAX
06-08-2008, 11:42 AM
oh ? is that how it works.....now I understand :-(

jimmie
06-08-2008, 02:07 PM
:-(

and hes wrong how ? Liddell has incredible power in both hands if you fail to see that then I feel sorry for your ignorance.

skier47
06-08-2008, 02:27 PM
Chuck should use his extensive amateur wrestling background and
try to get Anderson off his feet and use his huge size and strength
advantage to control , dominate and ground and pound his way to
a win. If Anderson does manage to get back to his feet he will be
tired and somewhat beat up and his strikes may have lost some of
their steam and accuracy. Maybe Chuck can try punching to the body
also to further wear down Silva. Chuck has a much bigger bone structure
and should have a massive strength advantage here and he just has to find
a way to use it against the phenomenal skillset of Anderson Silva.

jrow21
06-08-2008, 03:31 PM
now lets not forget that if liddell took him to the ground that silva is dangerous off his back with submissions as well......i personally want this fight.....either liddell vs silva or gsp vs silva

Beebs
06-09-2008, 01:39 AM
It's a pretty close fight, if only because alot of what Anderson likes to do he won't be able to.

Anderson loves to get in close, maybe get the clinch and some knees, and he really likes to slowly come forward and attack.

Chuck is just about the best ever at avoiding the clinch, and likes to have guys walking into him, basically if you get going forward and chuck is backpeddling, you stand a good chance of a quick nap.

Basically Chucks got the better power, but Silva will definatly be able to land more shots, probably more shots than anybody ever has on chuck, excluding the first Couture fight. Silvas got the better ground game, but Chuck has the far superior wrestling.

I actually picture it as a slightly boring fight until the ending if there is one, with neither uy being particuarly willing to come forward; alot of circling and pawing.

Tuffnutz
06-09-2008, 07:48 AM
Anderson can mimic Jardine's game plan like no other.

Go and watch Chuck get dropped hard by Pele too.

Anderson is better than both.

Hey and Chuck did'nt have the power to bother Jackson so he won't have the power to bother Silva imo.

Plus Anderons confidence is about as high as it can be right now.

coog
06-09-2008, 08:23 PM
Anderson silva is too young for Chuck at this time Striking requires good reflexes he also has vry long arms I give him the advantage . Silva wll win be referee stoppage.

Ramshall1
06-09-2008, 09:16 PM
This would be a huge event.

Id go with Spider, he manhandled Hendo. . . and I thought Hendo outpointed Rampage.

Mob
06-09-2008, 09:30 PM
If Silva moves up to face Liddell.......he gets beaten soundly.

rekcutnevets
06-09-2008, 10:36 PM
Silva is tall enough, fast enough, and technically sound enough to beat Chuck to the strike if they elect to fight in a stand-up match. Liddell needs to be prepared to attack this smaller man like he's never attacked anyone in his life. That is his only chance to stop Silva.

SkillsSoSmooth
06-11-2008, 02:56 AM
Lol this is a walk in the park for the Spider, he ain't the pound for pound number one for nothing, Chuck wouldn't know what to do with them high kicks tapping his head every second, and when them knees connect with his chin he'll be in serious trouble, honestly this fight would be all wrong for Chuck, Silva wouldn't have to put on that much imo and all his arsenal will still be in working order, i can't wait to see yet another piece of artistic brute force from Anderson in the 205 division :D .

Polymath
06-11-2008, 08:34 AM
Anderson silva is too young for Chuck at this time Striking requires good reflexes he also has vry long arms I give him the advantage . Silva wll win be referee stoppage.

Chucks style can last into old age, he's a backfoot powerpuncher. He's more Goerge Foreman than Pernell Whitaker you know?

Polymath
06-11-2008, 08:39 AM
Lol this is a walk in the park for the Spider, he ain't the pound for pound number one for nothing, Chuck wouldn't know what to do with them high kicks tapping his head every second, and when them knees connect with his chin he'll be in serious trouble, honestly this fight would be all wrong for Chuck, Silva wouldn't have to put on that much imo and all his arsenal will still be in working order, i can't wait to see yet another piece of artistic brute force from Anderson in the 205 division :D .

Walk in the park my ass :fire

Chuck is 220 on fight night and is twice as powerful as Silva, way better wrestler, in fact way better on the ground generally.

This fight might in fact be style quandry for Chuck, ie a striker who can outhustle him, but hell its one for Silva sa much if not more.

rekcutnevets
06-11-2008, 09:23 AM
If Chuck fights Silva like he does most fighters, he could be in trouble. Silva's stand-up is faster, and delivered with much better technique. Silva will be able to beat him to the strike, and beat the larger Liddell to a pulp.

Chuck does have the power to ko anyone in his division, but if he lays in wait, he'll be the one ko'd here. He will have to go for broke, and press Silva to the fence. Maybe even try to ground and pound the smaller fighter. Silva's length and flexibility make him dangerous on the ground as well.

I have a hard time seeing Chuck win this. He'll have to take the roll of a bully to do so.

Beebs
06-11-2008, 11:14 AM
You guys should watch Chucks fight against Pele, Andersons former teammate who fights nearly identically to Silva. Its not neccesarily how the fight between Silva and Liddell would turn out, but its relevant.

Donut62
06-11-2008, 02:30 PM
This is a solid fight. People saying Anderson is tiny are a little crazy. He's the same height as Chuck, and walks around at well over 200 pounds right now. Chuck will have some weight on him, but in this type of fight reach is going to be the dimension that matters. I think Anderson can win this pretty soundly.

BewareofDawg
06-11-2008, 02:57 PM
Anderson Silva would beat the shit out of Liddell. I think Wandy or Rampage would be a more interesting matchup for Silva. What about Shogun???? Why Liddell? I was thinking the other day that a A Silva vs Machida fight might be the best fight in the UFC right now to be made.

AJAX
06-11-2008, 05:19 PM
Walk in the park my ass :fire

Chuck is 220 on fight night and is twice as powerful as Silva, way better wrestler, in fact way better on the ground generally.

This fight might in fact be style quandry for Chuck, ie a striker who can outhustle him, but hell its one for Silva sa much if not more.

I agree, I'm surprised so many people think Silva will just walk all over chuck...It's not going to happen....It should be a great fight i don't think anybody has the know-all to say what will happen in a fight like this...recent history should tell you....very few of us can arrogantly predict what will happen like some of you are so confidently.:deal

Beebs
06-11-2008, 09:03 PM
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theunderdog
06-12-2008, 04:35 AM
this would be a great fight. silva willl be too fast for chuck. shutout decision for silva

iksrtfo
06-12-2008, 03:08 PM
Anderson has too much of an arenal. Chuck is primarly a stand up fighter who would be fighting a smaller but what some consider the best stand up fighter in MMA. I don't see chuck getting close enough to use his hands. I see Anderson throwing lots of kicks to the legs to soften Chuck up.

ufoalf
06-12-2008, 03:30 PM
Has Anderson's chin been really tested before?

Beebs
06-12-2008, 06:57 PM
Has Anderson's chin been really tested before?

Not in MMA that I can think of, has been knocked out in boxing and Muay Thai though, by Pele in MT