Pavlik-Lockett predictions??

[GazOC]

Come on then guys, time put it on the line. In view of the expected one-sided nature of this fight can we have a round prediction rather than just "Pavlik by KO"????;)

Pavlik KO 5 for me.

[dan-b]

Pavlik TKO 10. I expect Lockett to put up a valiant but ultimately insufficient effort. The ref will save him.

[Shev]

Pavlik by knockout at the beginning of the 3rd.

[TFFP]

I was thinking around 4, but I've just got the feeling he might last longer now

Pavlik TKO 8

[safe_pa]

My prediction? PAIN.

[Max Molyneux]

Lockett has a good chin though so this could go 12 rounds.

[Claypole]

Lockett has a good chin though so this could go 12 rounds.His chin may hold up, but his face won't. Gary lockett has to go for it in this one, he should use up all his energy in the first four rounds going for a KO, because after that his face will be a messy pulp and it will be stopped. Pavlik KO 4 (or corner retirement at end of round).

[trotter]

Depends if Lockett can land something big early on and make Pavlik tentative. Even with that, pavlik's consitency is his strength, so even with that he'll keep working.

Lockett looks ok for the early going, landing some shots, before finally getting caught by a crunching straight right that leaves his sense somehwere in the arena, far away from his body.

Pavlik by TKO, rd6-8

Aye, Pavlik isn't easily discouraged

He'll keep coming

Pavlik in 7

[brown bomber]

Pav W12 lockett will be smart enough to stay out of trouble if the jobs too big for him. People too easily forget his amateur credentials. He can punch - but he also can look after himself. Good luck to him though...

[phonk]

Pavlik.

[toffeejack]

Pavlik TKO 7

[kurt2006]

Pavlik going to clockit on lockett in 5.

[DamonD]

Brave effort, keeps on swinging, maybe even shocks Pavlik with a hit or two.
But ultimately gets torn up and mercy stopped around the 8th, I think.

[glscotland]

for some stange feeling - i think lockett might survive all 12 rounds but loose by large ud

[dan-b]

for some stange feeling - i think lockett might survive all 12 rounds but loose by large ud

Could well do. His face will look like a side of corned beef if he does though.:good

[LeedsLad]

I think Pavlik is stopping him in the middle rounds. Pavlik is a different class to Lockett, and it should show.

[dan-b]

Pavlik is a different class to Lockett, and it should show.

I agree. It will also show why the WBO are still a joke title.:good

[Betty Swollocks]

pumpkin head will get wasted inside 4 rounds, that's my prediction. He's slow as fuck and has no head movement..not good against a banger.

[Fat Joe]

I watched Pavlik V JT II last night, then I saw a clip on here today of Lockett flooring Eastman. Pavlik just looks so much bigger, I see Lockett struggling to get close enough to pavlik to make his power tell.

I'm rooting for Lockett and after seeing the way he floored Eastman it wouldn't surprise me that much if Pavlik ended up on the canvas, but I just can't see Lockett being victorious - Pavlik TKO 8

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:rofl:rofl:rofl

[bored]

Got the horrible feeling this will be a boring but convincing UD for Pavlik just to leave me pissed off at some stupid time.

[D-MAC]

Pavlik by stoppage in the first half of the fight.

[dwilson]

Lockett by KO round 5.

[chesh]

Pavlik KO 2. Ref counts 10 just before Lockett gets up.

[Claypole]

Pavlik KO 2. Ref counts 10 just before Lockett gets up.Do you mean looking like he could have beat he count if he wanted?

[BamBam]

Pavlik RSF 3 Lockett

[SleazeNation]

I'll go for Pavlik KTFO1. Earlier the better, I'm tired.

[chesh]

Do you mean looking like he could have beat he count if he wanted?

Probably too busy thinking about his cheque to hurry up. Seriously, he's going to get hit like never before.

[SleazeNation]

That embarrassed all of Britain :-(

[kerrminator]

Lockett was never gonna beat someone that much bigger than him lol


Pav looked like a cruiserweight in there but he still only has one style of fighting (left, left, right) and I reckon he is a belt waiting to be taken by the first decent contender he faces.

ps, his left, left, right style is very effective but he hasnt really fought anyone his own size so to speak. I reckon he should move up to super middle weight and face some tougher competition. Kessler would beat him imo

[Shev]

Pavlik by knockout at the beginning of the 3rd.

:good

[KilltheKing]

Pavlik by knockout at the beginning of the 3rd.
Dude,

Got any stock picks?


;)

edit:

Ahh, now I see you've already congratulated yourself ... never mind

[Max Molyneux]

Is Pavlik really going to be sacrificed to Calzaghe?:lol:

[kurt2006]

I thought Lockett and Enzo had a plan ? Just like when Enzo and Macca had a plan for Haye.

Looks like Enzo's plans are not working well. At least when the A-Team had a plan they always pulled things off.

Talk of a JC fight next for Kelly, will it be at catchweight or SMW ?

[kurt2006]

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Kelly tells the crowd he could have beaten Lockett with one arm.

[Max Molyneux]

Fighters need to box Pavlik more than trade with him. Taylor In the rematch showed how easy he Is to outbox.

[dan-b]

Lockett was simply way out of his depth. Didn't reflect too well on the WBO this. Max I'm not sure what fight you were watching if you thought Taylor easily outboxed Pavlik. I think him & Calzaghe would be a good match up but I would favour a Calzaghe UD.

I actually thought Pavlik threw a decent variety of punches to head & body but admittedly the competition wasn't up to much.

[kerrminator]

I thought Taylor outboxed Pavlik too in the 2nd fight

[LiamE]

Lockett was simply way out of his depth. Didn't reflect too well on the WBO this. Max I'm not sure what fight you were watching if you thought Taylor easily outboxed Pavlik. I think him & Calzaghe would be a good match up but I would favour a Calzaghe UD.

I actually thought Pavlik threw a decent variety of punches to head & body but admittedly the competition wasn't up to much.

You realy do have something against the WBO don't ya?

So did Lacy disgrace the IBF when he got schooled by a WBO guy?

As ever the fighters make the belts not vice versa.

[kurt2006]

You realy do have something against the WBO don't ya?

So did Lacy disgrace the IBF when he got schooled by a WBO guy?

As ever the fighters make the belts not vice versa.

The WBO rating for Lockett has proven to have been dogspoo. So yes of cause dan going to highlight this.

Same when they had Jennings rated as No#1 only for Young Mutley to beat him.

This shows how ****** manipulates the ratings.

[dan-b]

You realy do have something against the WBO don't ya?

So did Lacy disgrace the IBF when he got schooled by a WBO guy?

As ever the fighters make the belts not vice versa.

I was highlighting their consistently poor rankings. Yes Joe did school an IBF guy but how many joke contenders did he fight before then? Thats not a dig at Joe but a dig at the WBO. Personally I wish the "big three" would find an excuse to freeze them out again. They cannot expect to be taken seriously when it is so obvious they favour Sports Network fighters.

[TFFP]

The big bad WBO :patsch

It's not like some Mexican cab driver is fighting Andre Berto for the vacant WBC title

[dan-b]

The big bad WBO :patsch

It's not like some Mexican cab driver is fighting Andre Berto for the vacant WBC title

Notice my use of the word consistent. I'm not suggesting the big three don't have their bad challengers/champions but they are not as consistently bad as the WBO. I think you only defend them so vehemently because you take it as a personal slur on your favourite fighter.

[TFFP]

Notice my use of the word consistent. I'm not suggesting the big three don't have their bad challengers/champions but they are not as consistently bad as the WBO. I think you only defend them so vehemently because you take it as a personal slur on your favourite fighter. Not really. I see this shit all the time. It's just more noticeable to you with the WBO, because they are already ingrained as big and bad in your mind, and it happens to be they favour British fighters

Don King has the WBC well under thumb, and I'm certain the others are just as bad.

[dan-b]

Not really. I see this shit all the time. It's just more noticeable to you with the WBO, because they are already ingrained as big and bad in your mind, and it happens to be they favour British fighters

Don King has the WBC well under thumb, and I'm certain the others are just as bad.

Thats the thing, I don't see them as "big & bad". They are small & annoying & I wish we would all ignore them. I don't see why so many people want to recognise a fourth belt. Surely three is more than enough.

[GazOC]

Two belts is one too many...

[dan-b]

Two belts is one too many...

Yup but we've always had two. The third wasn't ideal but was accepted, so we definitely don't need a fourth right?

[TFFP]

Thats the thing, I don't see them as "big & bad". They are small & annoying & I wish we would all ignore them. I don't see why so many people want to recognise a fourth belt. Surely three is more than enough.
Why can't we kick the WBA out then? They are a piece of shit at the moment with the backhanders they've obviously been taking for that 168 belt

The WBO isn't any smaller than the rest now, and we better get used to it. A few fighters have made the belt, which is the way it should be. It also looks like a classy piece of leather to have on your fireplace, in comparison to the shitty WBA

[dan-b]

Why can't we kick the WBA out then? They are a piece of shit at the moment with the backhanders they've obviously been taking for that 168 belt

The WBO isn't any smaller than the rest now, and we better get used to it. A few fighters have made the belt, which is the way it should be. It also looks like a classy piece of leather to have on your fireplace, in comparison to the shitty WBA

Can you offer a decent explanation as to why Sports Network fighters feature so prominently in the WBO rankings while at the same time being ommitted from the big three? At least the big three do have a certain degree of consistency with many of the ranked fighters featuring in the top ten of the other two.

[GazOC]

Yup but we've always had two. The third wasn't ideal but was accepted, so we definitely don't need a fourth right?

I agree, it all really started going down hill in the mid-late eighties with the IBF. I havn't thought it through properly (and I know it adds another belt) but The Ring might be the way to go.

[dan-b]

I agree, it all really started going down hill in the mid-late eighties with the IBF. I havn't thought it through properly (and I know it adds another belt) but The Ring might be the way to go.

No I've gone off The Ring belt big time. I think all they have done is add another title & to make things worse they don't order mandatories. Okay, some of the challengers thrown up by the alphabets are sometimes a bit iffy but you must have some form of enforced challenging otherwise how would fighters ever get a shot?

[GazOC]

Thats the problem Dan, I think titles should be won and lost in the ring where possible but the Ring system makes it too easy for a champ to sit on the title and has no way of enforcing mandatories other than by popular demand.....

[Jack Dempsey]

I see the IBO taking out some high profile ads in the Boxing magazines, not another sanctioning body please!!!

[dan-b]

Thats the problem Dan, I think titles should be won and lost in the ring where possible but the Ring system makes it too easy for a champ to sit on the title and has no way of enforcing mandatories other than by popular demand.....

That is the dilemma. Of course titles should only be won & lost in the ring & in an ideal world the champion would grant all worthy challengers a shot but we know that doesn't always happen. The Ring are not helping boxing with regards the title situation anymore in my opinion.

[dan-b]

I see the IBO taking out some high profile ads in the Boxing magazines, not another sanctioning body please!!!

The IBO can fuck off. People are fooled by their supposed fair, unbiased rankings but Decebal wrote a great piece about why they can be paid no more credence than the others. Have a search, it was a great post. I'd like to see Hatton relinquish his IBO belt, much like Hopkins did after he beat Tarver. He knew it was a pile of shit.

[TFFP]

The Ring causes just as many problems. They have the best rankings by far, but there is still confusion over how the lineal title passes, and it is ANOTHER title in the mix, and potentially another guy claiming he's the best

I don't see that the WBO rankings are any worse than the rest. There is no explanation for SN fighters being ranked highly for the WBO, and not on the others, other than Frank ******'s influence. I'm not stupid

But I also realise when I see Joe Bloggs fighting Andre Berto for a vacant title something is up. Di Bella :roll: I also realise when Miranda is suddenly ranked 2 by the WBA, then all of a sudden he disapears off the face of the earth and is replaced by Borat something is up. Palle's slipped a few Danish Krone their way. Perhaps even Proska. Then I see Haussler getting a shot at the winner out of seemingly nowhere, and I can see that corrupt wanker Sauerland is up to some fun and games

These are two very recent examples. I havn't even looked at what the IBF are playing at, but their rankings are usually good, not sure about their tendency to be influenced. What is the difference between Frank ****** owning you, and taking backhanders into your Swiss bank accounts from various promoters? At least you know where you stand with the WBO.

[GazOC]

I'm not sure if its still the case but the IBF always used to have a American bias.

[kurt2006]

Can you offer a decent explanation as to why Sports Network fighters feature so prominently in the WBO rankings while at the same time being ommitted from the big three? At least the big three do have a certain degree of consistency with many of the ranked fighters featuring in the top ten of the other two.

I can offer the explanation and it is 100% true.

The BBBC were reluctant to give ****** a license when he was starting out as a promoter. So ****** called their bluff got friendly with the WBO and told the BBBC that he was going to start his only UK Boxing Governing body and that a genuine world boxing org was ready to recognise his new UK Governing Body. The BBBC shit their pants and the rest as they say is history. ****** got a promoters license and the WBO was recognised by the BBBC. Since then the WBO has always been ready to lick Franks arse as he did them a big favour and they got juicy fee's for title defences.

[Jack Dempsey]

Ring has the best looking belt though!

[dan-b]

I'm not sure if its still the case but the IBF always used to have a American bias.

The IBF are squeaky clean because they have to be. They still have an FBI assignment since the scandal from back in the day. Thats the reason they are always so quick to enforce their rules & strip more worthy champions eg Calzaghe, Taylor (after he won the unified title from Hopkins) & Margarito. Whether they have a subconscious bias towards American fighters is a matter for debate.

I can offer the explanation and it is 100% true.

The BBBC were reluctant to give ****** a license when he was starting out as a promoter. So ****** called their bluff got friendly with the WBO and told the BBBC that he was going to start his only UK Boxing Governing body and that a genuine world boxing org was ready to recognise his new UK Governing Body. The BBBC shit their pants and the rest as they say is history. ****** got a promoters license and the WBO was recognised by the BBBC. Since then the WBO has always been ready to lick Franks arse as he did them a big favour and they got juicy fee's for title defences.

That doesn't surprise me. Frank ****** is such a cunt.:twisted:

[GazOC]

Actually it was quite funny to watch ****** wipe the floor with the old farts at the BBBofC. The only reason they wouldn't give ****** a license was because Micky Duff told them not to.

[dan-b]

Actually it was quite funny to watch ****** wipe the floor with the old farts at the BBBofC. The only reason they wouldn't give ****** a license was because Micky Duff told them not to.

So threatening to create a rival governing body was the answer was it? I'm sure there was other action he could have taken.

[GazOC]

He did, he threatened them with a restraint of trade lawsuit and they folded, but ****** had already gone with the WBO by then and the damage was done.

[dan-b]

He did, he threatened them with a restraint of trade lawsuit and that was that.

To be honest talking about the WBO & ****** just gets me wound up.

Change of subject, how would you feel about a Brit forum meet of some kind? There seems to be a fairly even split between north & south so we could pick a suitable event to attend. Doesn't have to be a massive fight.

[GazOC]

Its a shame they don't have the fight fights at the NEC anymore, that would have been ideal...

[dan-b]

Its a shame they don't have the fight fights at the NEC anymore, that would have been ideal...

Yeah that is a shame. Have you guys ever done a meet on here before?

[TFFP]

I'd never meet any of you cunts.

[GazOC]

I'd never meet any of you cunts.

:lol: We wern't going to invite you anyway...

[dan-b]

I'd never meet any of you cunts.

Don't worry I have no intention of ever going to Iceland or Wales (again).:yep

[TFFP]

I wouldn't expect you to. You guys are just not worth the cost of my Business class Iceland Air flights, even the discounted versions I get

Unless MasterCalzaghe or CHJ was to be there :yep