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acb
06-08-2008, 04:49 PM
Thats a big if, but in the event that he does this, really... fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

Boxing is in a struggle to maintain itself right now with a rival sport, and a fight with Cotto would do huge things for it. Its the sport that gave him all that fancy shit he has, that should count for something.

If he goes to fight bums in the UFC for big money it would really hurt boxing.

eliqueiros
06-08-2008, 04:54 PM
Boxing has bigger fish to fry than loosing Mayweather to UFC. The big danger is in the P4P number one gettiing his ass beat to hell in the octagon, which is likely gonna happen, and discrediting the sport on a big picture. But what boxing has to worry about is how it lost its audience and UFC gained a huge audience, and that's exposure. Boxing needs to have its fights as easily accessed as UFC. In reality, its apples and oranges. Two different sports. Rugby never crossed over into football and vice versa.

acb
06-08-2008, 04:56 PM
Boxing simply needs the best to fight the best. When that happens, there is nothing like this sport and IMO the UFC doens't hold a candle to it on the whole (although guys like A. Silva are amazing).

Do that and the sport is on the map.

DaHead242
06-08-2008, 04:57 PM
perhaps if boxing, didnt try and make a huge competition with MMA and actually decided to extend the olive branch this could have helped boxing. MMA is good for boxing, and likewise for MMA . Problem is, both sides do nothing but badmouth each other and it's respective competitors. Floyd Mayweather owes boxing nothing and vice versa. if the rumors are true, Floyd could become a two sport star. boxing fans would def. watch him fight MMA, it's a good move for Floyd financially.

eliqueiros
06-08-2008, 05:02 PM
perhaps if boxing, didnt try and make a huge competition with MMA and actually decided to extend the olive branch this could have helped boxing. MMA is good for boxing, and likewise for MMA . Problem is, both sides do nothing but badmouth each other and it's respective competitors. Floyd Mayweather owes boxing nothing and vice versa. if the rumors are true, Floyd could become a two sport star. boxing fans would def. watch him fight MMA, it's a good move for Floyd financially.

That's unless someone doesn't grapple his ass to the canvas within ten seconds of the beginning of the fight.

acb
06-08-2008, 05:06 PM
That's unless someone doesn't grapple his ass to the canvas within ten seconds of the beginning of the fight.

:deal

He is going to fight low level guys, this doesn't help either sport, its just a big money publicity stunt for UFC and a cash grab for Floyd. Its an artificial relationship that doesn't go beyond that.

Anyone who thinks Floyd is going to be a top level guy in UFC at 31 years old and with not experience on the ground simply doesn't understand UFC.

jecxbox
06-08-2008, 05:08 PM
Floyd would get put into an Arm bar and get his elbow hyper extended, is that what you guys want? If he gets his arm hyper extended hardcore kiss his boxing career goodbye because he won't be the same after a possible injury like that.

jecxbox
06-08-2008, 05:09 PM
BTW, I think Floyd Mayweather already thinks hes 1-0 in Mixed Martial Arts....freshly coming off his big win over Ricky Hatton..LMFAO

Asterion
06-08-2008, 05:14 PM
Thats a big if, but in the event that he does this, really... fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

Boxing is in a struggle to maintain itself right now with a rival sport, and a fight with Cotto would do huge things for it. Its the sport that gave him all that fancy shit he has, that should count for something.

If he goes to fight bums in the UFC for big money it would really hurt boxing.

Why do you take it so personal?

It's his fuckin life. Let him go to UFC if he wants to...

Lance_Uppercut
06-08-2008, 05:16 PM
I agree 100%. This would show Floyd does NOT care about boxing at all. He'll whore himself to the highest bidder. Money is all that matters....:patsch

Toopretty
06-08-2008, 05:16 PM
Why do you take it so personal?

It's his fuckin life. Let him go to UFC if he wants to...


For real, these maniacal dimwits act like he cant do what the hell he wants. This is a fucking democracy. He BEEN talking about retiring pre-Cotto era...:lol:

Mundo
06-08-2008, 05:17 PM
more proof this guy is just an attention whore...if he complains about his hands and body takin a toll on his body...and cant take the punishment anymore...hows he going to deal with smaller gloves? the kicking and shit to the legs and what not...

oh well...only ruins his boxing ATG imo and the way he will viewed many years later

NickBarker
06-08-2008, 05:18 PM
I'm not sure if I feel the football--I assume you means soccer and not American football--and rugby example is all that compelling. While they do compete with each other for similar talent bases, there are some differences between the physical prototypes among the sports.

Furthermore, in Europe, I am under the impression that football is pretty much king. It's not as though either boxing or MMA are even amongst the five most popular sports in the United States. American football and basketball are fine coexisting becuase they are each getting elite athletes and lots of media and general sports fan attention. As it stands, the two kinds of combat sports often compete with each other for media, fans and athletes. With the recent momentum of UFC and other MMA leagues, having boxing's best fighter retire young and take up a career with MMA, whether he succeeds or not, sends a very bad signal to people about what the future holds.

I, personally, would like Mayweather to stay around and fight Cotto, should he beat Margarito. However, it's not the end of the world if he leaves the sport. The man gets to make the decision he wants and no one can really begrude him that. Yet, looking at this more pragmatically, I feel this could damage the future prospects of the sport. If Mayweather is leaving, I'd prefer it if he just went away.

acb
06-08-2008, 05:18 PM
Because he is the self proclaimed "face of boxing." He left the biggest fight in boxing on the table to retire, and I respected that and praised him for getting out of the game.

But to go to boxing's biggest rival to fight bumbs would be disrespectful to the sport and I don't see how it can be percieved any other way.

1. Boxing loses its biggest (or 2nd biggest) star
2. Boxing loses its best fighter and p4p #1
3. Boxing loses its biggest, most enthralling fight
4. & loses it to its chief competitor who is constantly downplaying it as sport of the past.

How in the hell else should I take it?

acb
06-08-2008, 05:20 PM
For real, these maniacal dimwits act like he cant do what the hell he wants. This is a fucking democracy. He BEEN talking about retiring pre-Cotto era...:lol:

Floyd Mayweather could take a shit on your doorstep and you would frame it and put in on your wall, and then call your friends that question why you put framed shit on your wall jeolous ass haters.

The man can simply do no wrong in your eyes.

eze
06-08-2008, 05:21 PM
I agree 100%. This would show Floyd does NOT care about boxing at all. He'll whore himself to the highest bidder. Money is all that matters....:patsch


He said he has no heart left in the sport. Thanks for telling us something we dont know.

the_what
06-08-2008, 05:22 PM
Hes running from a Cotto ass whooping thats what he is doing.

acb
06-08-2008, 05:22 PM
As it stands, the two kinds of combat sports often compete with each other for media, fans and athletes. With the recent momentum of UFC and other MMA leagues, having boxing's best fighter retire young and take up a career with MMA, whether he succeeds or not, sends a very bad signal to people about what the future holds.


Simple as that.

eze
06-08-2008, 05:22 PM
Floyd Mayweather could take a shit on your doorstep and you would frame it and put in on your wall, and then call your friends that question why you put framed shit on your wall jeolous ass haters.

The man can simply do no wrong in your eyes.


Mayweather walked away from boxing. Boo hoo. Boxing will live on. Mayweather is a person like you and I. He can do what he wants. Yes it sucks he didn't fight Cotto.

But if Mayweather is successful in MMA, you know how much that could add to his legacy as being a fighter?

acb
06-08-2008, 05:23 PM
But if Mayweather is successful in MMA, you know how much that could add to his legacy as being a fighter?

He is going to get his ass throttled by any high level fighter in MMA Eze, and you know it.

Lance_Uppercut
06-08-2008, 05:25 PM
For real, these maniacal dimwits act like he cant do what the hell he wants. This is a fucking democracy. He BEEN talking about retiring pre-Cotto era...:lol:


If SRL would have retired instead of facing Hearns, he wouldn't be where he is. If SRL STAYED retired instead of beating Hagler, he wouldn't be where he is today either. Floyd has his superfight now. He has his undefeated counter-part in Cotto (Hatton was NOT his counterpart BTW). Cotto is his Hagler, Hearns, and Duran. All Mayweather has to do is stick around and face him if he wins. Beating Cotto does more for his actual legacy then does beating Hatton or DLH.

If you can't see how bad his decision to retire right now is, you're less a fan of boxing then I thought. But you're probably just happy Floyd retired undefeated iright TP?

Mundo
06-08-2008, 05:25 PM
He is going to get his ass throttled by any high level fighter in MMA Eze, and you know it.

not really...im sure just as he did in boxing...he will duck the best in their division as well...:yep

Lance_Uppercut
06-08-2008, 05:26 PM
Mayweather walked away from boxing. Boo hoo. Boxing will live on. Mayweather is a person like you and I. He can do what he wants. Yes it sucks he didn't fight Cotto.

But if Mayweather is successful in MMA, you know how much that could add to his legacy as being a fighter?

For a Mayweather fan, none of you seem to care too much that your fave isn't fighting ever again. Just glad he got paid and is undefeated right? :roll:

Lance_Uppercut
06-08-2008, 05:28 PM
He said he has no heart left in the sport. Thanks for telling us something we dont know.

You're welcome...since you don't know a lot.

:lol: But you believe that? Yes...he's lost SO much interest in his stacked division that he doesn't want to fight anymore...except maybe in UFC. Suure...Gullible much Eze?

Toopretty
06-08-2008, 05:32 PM
If SRL would have retired instead of facing Hearns, he wouldn't be where he is. If SRL STAYED retired instead of beating Hagler, he wouldn't be where he is today either. Floyd has his superfight now. He has his undefeated counter-part in Cotto (Hatton was NOT his counterpart BTW). Cotto is his Hagler, Hearns, and Duran. All Mayweather has to do is stick around and face him if he wins. Beating Cotto does more for his actual legacy then does beating Hatton or DLH.

If you can't see how bad his decision to retire right now is, you're less a fan of boxing then I thought. But you're probably just happy Floyd retired undefeated iright TP?

Nicca please..... I been one on here that said and I quote...if Floyd does not fight Cotto next he should retire for real.. For me its either one or the other. I would criticize him is he mascaraded as #1 and fought ODH and Hatton again in joke fights. But if his mind aint in it and he is not hungry anymore, as anyone with a half a brain can see. He retired, yeah I am dissappointed but it really dont mean that much to his legacy to me as he was never trying to be the BEST WELTER etc etc. Devoting 20 years to boxing is a hell of a long time and more then ANY OF YOU DICKLESS CUNTS. I understand where he is coming from if he does not get the thrill of victory anymore and no longer gives a shit what you pieces of shit fake excuse for boxing fans who have been giving him shit for the last 4-5 years. You will never be satisfied UNLESS he loses. If he beats Cottos ass you would bring up another guy. If all people want is for you to lose then FUCK THEM. Floyd aint scared of none of those fighters out there, fucking faggot ass motherfuckers.

HOF'er
06-08-2008, 05:36 PM
If SRL would have retired instead of facing Hearns, he wouldn't be where he is. If SRL STAYED retired instead of beating Hagler, he wouldn't be where he is today either. Floyd has his superfight now. He has his undefeated counter-part in Cotto (Hatton was NOT his counterpart BTW). Cotto is his Hagler, Hearns, and Duran. All Mayweather has to do is stick around and face him if he wins. Beating Cotto does more for his actual legacy then does beating Hatton or DLH.

If you can't see how bad his decision to retire right now is, you're less a fan of boxing then I thought. But you're probably just happy Floyd retired undefeated iright TP?

:happy :deal PERFECT.FUCKING. POST. PERIOD.

Lance_Uppercut
06-08-2008, 05:37 PM
Nicca please..... I been one on here that said and I quote...if Floyd does not fight Cotto next he should retire for real.. For me its either one or the other. I would criticize him is he mascaraded as #1 and fought ODH and Hatton again in joke fights. But if his mind aint in it and he is not hungry anymore, as anyone with a half a brain can see. He retired, yeah I am dissappointed but it really dont mean that much to his legacy to me as he was never trying to be the BEST WELTER etc etc. Devoting 20 years to boxing is a hell of a long time and more then ANY OF YOU DICKLESS CUNTS. I understand where he is coming from if he does not get the thrill of victory anymore and no longer gives a shit what you pieces of shit fake excuse for boxing fans who have been giving him shit for the last 4-5 years. You will never be satisfied UNLESS he loses. If he beats Cottos ass you would bring up another guy. If all people want is for you to lose then FUCK THEM. Floyd aint scared of none of those fighters out there, fucking faggot ass motherfuckers.

Why did you quote me to make this pointless tirade? You didn't say anything of relevence to me. You say if he beats Cotto I WOULD bring up another guy? I WOULD? :patsch idiot....

acb
06-08-2008, 05:37 PM
Nicca please..... I been one on here that said and I quote...if Floyd does not fight Cotto next he should retire for real.. For me its either one or the other. I would criticize him is he mascaraded as #1 and fought ODH and Hatton again in joke fights. But if his mind aint in it and he is not hungry anymore, as anyone with a half a brain can see. He retired, yeah I am dissappointed but it really dont mean that much to his legacy to me as he was never trying to be the BEST WELTER etc etc. Devoting 20 years to boxing is a hell of a long time and more then ANY OF YOU DICKLESS CUNTS. I understand where he is coming from if he does not get the thrill of victory anymore and no longer gives a shit what you pieces of shit fake excuse for boxing fans who have been giving him shit for the last 4-5 years. You will never be satisfied UNLESS he loses. If he beats Cottos ass you would bring up another guy. If all people want is for you to lose then FUCK THEM. Floyd aint scared of none of those fighters out there, fucking faggot ass motherfuckers.

:lol:

HOF'er
06-08-2008, 05:39 PM
ANY OF YOU DICKLESS CUNTS longer gives a shit what you pieces of shit fake excuse for boxing fans who have been giving him shit for the last 4-5 years.If all people want is for you to lose then FUCK THEM. Floyd aint scared of none of those fighters out there, fucking faggot ass motherfuckers.

:admin How do you REALLY feel about this?

Relentless
06-08-2008, 05:40 PM
For a Mayweather fan, none of you seem to care too much that your fave isn't fighting ever again. Just glad he got paid and is undefeated right? :roll:

:lol: :lol:

jecxbox
06-08-2008, 05:43 PM
Floyd has had a great career but he hasn't had his DEFINING fight. When I think about Floyd's defining fight, I look at his destruction over Chico Corrales, but honestly is that what Floyd wants to be remembered for? Several people around here in the past have acted like Floyd doesn't need Cotto. My ass, If he wants to transcend boxing history and send his legacy through the roof, he NEEDS Cotto. PERIODDDDD. And if he really does retire I don't think boxing will really miss him all that much, because when the sport of boxing needed the guy he walked away.

Floyd Mayweather has turned his back on the most important moment in his boxing career, this is a fact that I guess hes going to have to live with.

migz corner
06-08-2008, 05:43 PM
MMA>Boxing :yep

jecxbox
06-08-2008, 05:45 PM
For a Mayweather fan, none of you seem to care too much that your fave isn't fighting ever again. Just glad he got paid and is undefeated right? :roll:


:rofl

HOF'er
06-08-2008, 05:46 PM
MMA>Boxing :yep

Retard> You

jecxbox
06-08-2008, 05:47 PM
MMA>Boxing :yep


you = get banned

eze
06-08-2008, 06:07 PM
You're welcome...since you don't know a lot.

:lol: But you believe that? Yes...he's lost SO much interest in his stacked division that he doesn't want to fight anymore...except maybe in UFC. Suure...Gullible much Eze?


Gullible? Im just posting what he said. Glad you take everything to heart Lance A Lot.

eze
06-08-2008, 06:08 PM
For a Mayweather fan, none of you seem to care too much that your fave isn't fighting ever again. Just glad he got paid and is undefeated right? :roll:


Did you not see the part where I said it sucks he's not fighting Cotto?


Or are you just a dumbass?

Asterion
06-08-2008, 07:15 PM
If SRL would have retired instead of facing Hearns, he wouldn't be where he is. If SRL STAYED retired instead of beating Hagler, he wouldn't be where he is today either. Floyd has his superfight now. He has his undefeated counter-part in Cotto (Hatton was NOT his counterpart BTW). Cotto is his Hagler, Hearns, and Duran.



Why is that? How was that established?

Why Cotto instead of Hatton, or why Hatton instead of Corrales?

Seems like you arbitrarily have decided that Mayweather's legassy until the moment doesn't mean anything and that Cotto is his Hearns/Hagler/Duran. That's bullshit. He's only the next challenge he should have faced.

Relentless
06-08-2008, 07:20 PM
Looks like the joy boys are glad floyd retired.

Asterion
06-08-2008, 07:27 PM
Floyd has had a great career but he hasn't had his DEFINING fight.



What was Leonard's definining fight: undefeated Hearns, Duran or Hagler?

What was Ali's defining fight: Frazier or Foreman?

What was Lewis' defining fight: Holyfield or Tyson?

What was Tyson's defining fight: Berbick, Spinks or Holyfield?


I think Foreman was Ali's defining fight, but other people think it was the first fight with Frazier. Others think that the third fight with Frazier. This clearly proofs that "defining fights" are a SUBJECTIVE CHOICE.

For me, Mayweather's defining fight could have been the one against Hatton. For another person, the one against Corrales. For you, the potential fight against Cotto (that never happened). For another poster, the fight against De la Hoya because it was the biggest fight of all times, etc. It is subjective.

So don't say a Cotto fight would be Mayweather's most important moment like you're the bible. It's only your opinion.

Relentless
06-08-2008, 07:30 PM
What was Leonard's definining fight: undefeated Hearns, Duran or Hagler?

What was Ali's defining fight: Frazier or Foreman?

What was Lewis' defining fight: Holyfield or Tyson?

What was Tyson's defining fight: Berbick, Spinks or Holyfield?


I think Foreman was Ali's defining fight, but other people think it was the first fight with Frazier. Others think that the third fight with Frazier. This clearly proofs that "defining fights" are a SUBJECTIVE CHOICE.

For me, Mayweather's defining fight could have been the one against Hatton. For another person, the one against Corrales. For you, the potential fight against Cotto (that never happened). For another poster, the fight against De la Hoya because it was the biggest fight of all times, etc. It is subjective.

So don't say a Cotto fight would be Mayweather's most important moment like you're the bible. It's only your opinion.

Actually that is most peoples opinions.

Asterion
06-08-2008, 07:33 PM
Actually that is most peoples opinions.

I am realistic and think that that's problably the opinion of 40, maybe 50% of fans.

But I'm not sure and no one is. There aren't any polls.

Dynamite Kid
06-08-2008, 07:48 PM
Thats a big if, but in the event that he does this, really... fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

Boxing is in a struggle to maintain itself right now with a rival sport, and a fight with Cotto would do huge things for it. Its the sport that gave him all that fancy shit he has, that should count for something.

If he goes to fight bums in the UFC for big money it would really hurt boxing.

If Floyd Mayweather wants to go to MMA that's his buisness. He's not obligated to stay in boxing if he doesn't want to.

P.S. There are NO BUMS in the UFC. Especially at 155 pounds if he fights there.

Dynamite Kid
06-08-2008, 07:51 PM
That's unless someone doesn't grapple his ass to the canvas within ten seconds of the beginning of the fight.

Honestly, I don't think someone would have to take Floyd to the ground just to beat him. I'm a big Mayweather fan but I don't think he can even stand with an MMA fighter. I'd much rather see him fight Cotto.

RafaelGonzal
06-08-2008, 10:44 PM
He surely gets his ass broke over there.

Ziggy Montana
06-08-2008, 10:53 PM
Negotiation tactics, he wants to show that boxing won't go anywhere without him. Floyd's retirement is on provisional basis. His career will resume when he'll get the money he wants for the DLH rematch.

And he's not going to UFC.

p.s. Duh!

Ziggy Montana
06-08-2008, 10:59 PM
Rumour has it that Ana Ivanovic ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and Maria Sharapova ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) will soon retire from tennis to join the HMWF (Hotties Mud Wrestling Federation) - now that's fucking news!

Question: will it hurt tennis?
Answer: who gives a fuck!

Dantes
06-08-2008, 11:05 PM
Thats a big if, but in the event that he does this, really... fuck him and the horse he rode in on.

Boxing is in a struggle to maintain itself right now with a rival sport, and a fight with Cotto would do huge things for it. Its the sport that gave him all that fancy shit he has, that should count for something.

If he goes to fight bums in the UFC for big money it would really hurt boxing.

It won't happen, Floyd would be murdered anyway.

ripcity
06-09-2008, 12:20 AM
Losing the best boxer in the sport is going to hurt but boxing will move on without him. I do think he will make a comeback within 5 years probably less than that.

Carlos Primera
06-09-2008, 01:05 AM
Looks like the joy boys are glad floyd retired.
yeah. it's inexcusible. he's robbing the sport/fans of the fight most want so badly to see.

DaHead242
06-09-2008, 01:08 AM
Rumour has it that Ana Ivanovic ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) and Maria Sharapova ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) will soon retire from tennis to join the HMWF (Hotties Mud Wrestling Federation) - now that's fucking news!

Question: will it hurt tennis?
Answer: who gives a fuck!


I would cry a tear filled river of joy and happiness like Floyd Joy after beating Baldomir.

Larson
06-09-2008, 01:09 AM
If Floyd Mayweather Goes to UFC...
He's a fag.

boxbox
06-09-2008, 01:24 AM
UFC?? why? to get his arms broken??