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ChrisPontius
07-20-2007, 03:04 PM
In both cases, Steward had improved his fighter very much and made them fight a safe fight from a distance while breaking down their opponents. Both Morisson and Brewster took a huge amount of jabs and other hard shots.

Brewster didn't get knocked down because he has an iron chin contrary to Morisson but both were stopped in 6 nonetheless.

Rock0052
07-20-2007, 04:50 PM
That's an excellent comparison. It was also the first time I'd seen either guy look THAT beaten. Don't get me wrong, the Mercer KO against Morrison was brutal, but Tommy was accounting for himself well in that fight prior to it. In the case of Wlad and Lennox, both of them just demoralized and broke down two exciting fighters who were known for their heart. That's not easy to do to those guys.

Heavyrighthand
07-20-2007, 05:06 PM
I am sure some will grumble over Wlad being compared to Lewis, but I think this is a great comparison; two fairly similar Steward fighters fighting two very similar KO at all costs type opponents, with similar outcomes.

achillesthegreat
07-20-2007, 05:11 PM
I disagree. I think Lewis fought a much more complete fight.

barneyrub
07-20-2007, 06:05 PM
Brewster just didnt turn up that night, the eye injury was clearly psychologically weighing on him and his trainer who was heard to tell him in the corner after the first two rounds that he wouldnt let him get hit tonight. At a point in the fight where he hadnt been hit by much at all yet! The whole fight he shouted out defensive instructions, this was maybe not heard on HBO but watching online on seconds out you heard the trainers urgency to protect that eye from the outset.
Id compare wlad brewster to lewis fortune, thats the standards of opponent brewster was that night.

ChrisPontius
07-20-2007, 06:47 PM
I disagree. I think Lewis fought a much more complete fight.

You mean because he used the uppercut more or other reasons?

That uppercut with which he knocked him down was awesome, by the way.


Brewster just didnt turn up that night, the eye injury was clearly psychologically weighing on him and his trainer who was heard to tell him in the corner after the first two rounds that he wouldnt let him get hit tonight. At a point in the fight where he hadnt been hit by much at all yet! The whole fight he shouted out defensive instructions, this was maybe not heard on HBO but watching online on seconds out you heard the trainers urgency to protect that eye from the outset.
Id compare wlad brewster to lewis fortune, thats the standards of opponent brewster was that night.


Morrison pretty much let his eye take him out of the fight too, though. He was touching his eye and looking at it very often from round 4 on. Bottomline is that both guys were demoralized and taken out of the fight, or better put, made to fight Lewis/Klitschko's fight. Perfect ring generalship. Both looked more helpless than they would've against an other opponent because Lewis/Klitschko simply didn't allow them to work where they liked to.

Sakura
07-20-2007, 06:58 PM
Brewster just didnt turn up that night, the eye injury was clearly psychologically weighing on him and his trainer who was heard to tell him in the corner after the first two rounds that he wouldnt let him get hit tonight. At a point in the fight where he hadnt been hit by much at all yet! The whole fight he shouted out defensive instructions, this was maybe not heard on HBO but watching online on seconds out you heard the trainers urgency to protect that eye from the outset.
Id compare wlad brewster to lewis fortune, thats the standards of opponent brewster was that night.

are you sure, or maybe wlad was that night only so good?!

RUSKULL
07-20-2007, 07:00 PM
That's an excellent comparison. It was also the first time I'd seen either guy look THAT beaten. Don't get me wrong, the Mercer KO against Morrison was brutal, but Tommy was accounting for himself well in that fight prior to it. In the case of Wlad and Lennox, both of them just demoralized and broke down two exciting fighters who were known for their heart. That's not easy to do to those guys.


Agreed

jimmie
07-20-2007, 07:00 PM
I dont see how Wlad is THAT much improved from the 1st fight. He was giving Brewster just as bad a beating in 04 as he did on July 7th but he got tired and hit cleanly. This month he never got touched clean on the chin thats 4 fights in a row bravo to Wlad for that and he didnt get tired agian bravo to Wlad for that. Obviously he defense and stamina is better but he still offensivly is the same guy with exactly 3 punches.

Sakura
07-20-2007, 07:07 PM
I dont see how Wlad is THAT much improved from the 1st fight. He was giving Brewster just as bad a beating in 04 as he did on July 7th but he got tired and hit cleanly. This month he never got touched clean on the chin thats 4 fights in a row bravo to Wlad for that and he didnt get tired agian bravo to Wlad for that. Obviously he defense and stamina is better but he still offensivly is the same guy with exactly 3 punches.

Their first fight, wlad move much more and he didnt use his jab so much. Second fight wlad seems to be physically much stronger and he use his reach advantage very well and not move and lose his energy, before he have to.

markclow
07-20-2007, 07:35 PM
Honestly I can't figure out whether Wlad is that good or his opponents have been poor.

I thought Wlad would have had to work hard to beat Brewster but something unexpected happened: either a substandard Brewster showed up or Wlad just made it look easy.

Not sure which it was. Maybe it was both?

Anybody got a link to the fight?

Butch Coolidge
07-20-2007, 09:26 PM
Both Brewster and Morrison had devestating left hooks too.

Brewster was good enough to beat Golota, who had some encouraging fights vs Byrd and Ruiz, however unlike Byrd and Ruiz, Brewster packs a KO punch. Brewster was also good enough to get a come from behind KO win over Luan Krasniqui.

Klitschko was always technically better than Brewster and the rematch showed that if Klitschko doesn't exhaust himself Brewster probably would never lay on glove on him.

aliwasthegreatest
07-21-2007, 12:39 AM
yea brewster went through the motions this time. like the guy before said. wlad has the same exact three punches.

TheGreat
07-21-2007, 02:16 AM
Brewster looked like a shot fighter, Wlad wasn't even landing that many big shots.

barneyrub
07-21-2007, 02:20 AM
You mean because he used the uppercut more or other reasons?

That uppercut with which he knocked him down was awesome, by the way.



Morrison pretty much let his eye take him out of the fight too, though. He was touching his eye and looking at it very often from round 4 on. Bottomline is that both guys were demoralized and taken out of the fight, or better put, made to fight Lewis/Klitschko's fight. Perfect ring generalship. Both looked more helpless than they would've against an other opponent because Lewis/Klitschko simply didn't allow them to work where they liked to.yeah but lewis did that to him, brewster cameinto the fight worried about his eye injury he had just had repaired!

TheGreat
07-21-2007, 02:40 AM
yeah but lewis did that to him, brewster cameinto the fight worried about his eye injury he had just had repaired!

Completely agree furthermore brewster LOOKED SHOT.

Rock0052
07-21-2007, 03:25 AM
Completely agree furthermore brewster LOOKED SHOT.

Of course he did. That's exactly what happens when your opponent dodges everything you throw and lands 10 times as many punches to make you pay for it.

Wlad didn't fade, and Brewster eventually got demoralized from getting hit in the face a couple hundred times. Judging by how swollen his face looked, I don't blame him.

Brewster's always been the kind of guy who can outslug you and relies on flat out being tougher than you to win. What made him a little more successful than Morrison in that regard is Lamon's chin was noticably better equipped to hold up to that kind of style, which more than offset Morrison's better 1 punch KO power because there's not a huge difference there. Brewster looked that bad because Wlad made him. Don't get me wrong- he's not in his prime anymore (in large part due to the beatings he's taken, including the first Wlad fight), but I don't think he was near as shot as Wlad made him look. If he were, surely something would've leaked about it beforehand, like when everybody knew Lyakovich had a terrible camp leading up to the Briggs fight.

TheGreat
07-21-2007, 03:44 AM
Of course he did. That's exactly what happens when your opponent dodges everything you throw and lands 10 times as many punches to make you pay for it.

Wlad didn't fade, and Brewster eventually got demoralized from getting hit in the face a couple hundred times. Judging by how swollen his face looked, I don't blame him.

Brewster's always been the kind of guy who can outslug you and relies on flat out being tougher than you to win. What made him a little more successful than Morrison in that regard is Lamon's chin was noticably better equipped to hold up to that kind of style, which more than offset Morrison's better 1 punch KO power because there's not a huge difference there. Brewster looked that bad because Wlad made him. Don't get me wrong- he's not in his prime anymore (in large part due to the beatings he's taken, including the first Wlad fight), but I don't think he was near as shot as Wlad made him look. If he were, surely something would've leaked about it beforehand, like when everybody knew Lyakovich had a terrible camp leading up to the Briggs fight.

Brewster was shot, he was moving as if his whole body was stuck in quicksand, Wlad showed alot of fear and respect towards Brewster which is why Brewster didn't go down, In other words Wlad didn't tee off on him this time he just caustiously boxed while poor Brewster couldn't even move in there.

RUSKULL
07-21-2007, 09:20 AM
Brewster was shot, he was moving as if his whole body was stuck in quicksand, Wlad showed alot of fear and respect towards Brewster which is why Brewster didn't go down, In other words Wlad didn't tee off on him this time he just caustiously boxed while poor Brewster couldn't even move in there.

Wlad showed fear? :rofl

I clearly saw Wlad pummel Brewster with left hooks & big right hands as well as the occasional uppercut all while peppering Lamon's face with the jab.

I also recall Brewster trying for big lunging shots but to no avail. It was just a matter of time til Wlad closed the show but Lamon's corner beat him to it! :good

achillesthegreat
07-21-2007, 10:33 AM
You mean because he used the uppercut more or other reasons?

That uppercut with which he knocked him down was awesome, by the way.

That is an example.

How about when he dropped Morrisson with a hook? He covered up and countered with a hook. In that moment his counter punching ability, defence and inside work was superior to Wlads and those are areas Wlad didn't really display much of.

Wlad fought a pretty straight forward fight. Pace myself, use the jab, keep him at distance and every now and again try a power shot. Lewis fought a much more complete fight.