Create a strategy for Holmes to beat

[JohnThomas1]

Super Greg Page, with Greg being at the peak of his powers after the Snipes win! She's gonna be a tough one!

[My dinner with Conteh]

Get King to pay off the judges. ;)

[JohnThomas1]

Get King to pay off the judges. ;)
You got it in one!

:smoke

[salsanchezfan]

A fight like this will always be hard for Holmes, but if there's one thing that seemed to bother Page, it was pressure. That wasn't really Homes' thing, but I'd have him step forward with the jab and shoot that highly underrated straight right to the body, keeping Page going backward as much as possible. Merely standing at jabbing distance with him all night is a bad ploy.

[JohnThomas1]

A fight like this will always be hard for Holmes, but if there's one thing that seemed to bother Page, it was pressure. That wasn't really Homes' thing, but I'd have him step forward with the jab and shoot that highly underrated straight right to the body, keeping Page going backward as much as possible. Merely standing at jabbing distance with him all night is a bad ploy.

I was only kidding, but am much appreciative you have taken this post most seriously. If Page come in motivated as it looked he was going to at the time of the fight it's a fair question both ways. My serious answer would be for Holmes to fight his normal fight and see if he could stay even with the younger Page early in the likelihood that Page would tire later and Larry could take the decision. He would have to be wary of hanging his jab out there due to Page's fast snapping right and move to his right away from this punch for variation. Funnily enough i could see some fierce exchanges in this one due to feeling and the fact Larry didn't mind the odd slugging time when he thought he could come out ok.

[salsanchezfan]

I was only kidding, but am much appreciative you have taken this post most seriously. If Page come in motivated as it looked he was going to at the time of the fight it's a fair question both ways. My serious answer would be for Holmes to fight his normal fight and see if he could stay even with the younger Page early in the likelihood that Page would tire later and Larry could take the decision. He would have to be wary of hanging his jab out there due to Page's fast snapping right and move to his right away from this punch for variation. Funnily enough i could see some fierce exchanges in this one due to feeling and the fact Larry didn't mind the odd slugging time when he thought he could come out ok.


............I could envision some good exchanges too, but only if Holmes dictates the pace. To tire his younger opponent out, he's going to need to apply that pressure and make Page react to him rather than trying to match reflexes with the faster, younger guy.

I see Page getting off to a nice start, but Holmes' measured pressure taking a bit of starch from his legs by the middle rounds, with Holmes eeking out the late rounds with a busier work rate and taking a close decision.

[JohnThomas1]

............I could envision some good exchanges too, but only if Holmes dictates the pace. To tire his younger opponent out, he's going to need to apply that pressure and make Page react to him rather than trying to match reflexes with the faster, younger guy.

I see Page getting off to a nice start, but Holmes' measured pressure taking a bit of starch from his legs by the middle rounds, with Holmes eeking out the late rounds with a busier work rate and taking a close decision.

I can go with this Sal. Even at the latter stage Holmes was still finishing the better over much younger guys. His determination and heart really did set the guy apart and makes him a chance against any guy he shares the ring with at his best. Regardless of my heat on his latter road i really do rate the bugger immensely. He can fight well vs any style.

[robert ungurean]

Are you kidding me?????
Holmes would beat the shit out of any version of Greg Page.

[robert ungurean]

Super greg page wins a shutout decision with every single round being 10-8 due to dominance.
You must be on a combo of crack & reefer:hat :rasta

[Duodenum]

Holmes should have given Page the title shot Scott Frank received with his telephoned challenge of Larry, after Greg decisioned Snipes.

Coming off his overtrained performance against Witherspoon, Holmes was pretty much at the height of his powers, while the Dirigible was about to embark on a two match losing streak.

Larry would have taken this one by a pretty boring UD, in a match that wouldn't have done much to capture public attention. Page was tough enough to go the distance, but he was too wide open (and just plain too wide) a target for Holmes to miss with his harpoons. Page would do better if he was allowed to wear additional protective gear other than his cup-like an underwire. (Then, the network wouldn't have to pixellate his pendulous breasts.)

ps: I know it was me you were baiting JT. I didn't want to let you down.

[My dinner with Conteh]

Originally Posted by Larry " The Mallard" Holmes
Super greg page would have given me a boxing lesson


:lol:



What other evidence does one need.

[JohnThomas1]

Holmes should have given Page the title shot Scott Frank received with his telephoned challenge of Larry, after Greg decisioned Snipes.

Coming off his overtrained performance against Witherspoon, Holmes was pretty much at the height of his powers, while the Dirigible was about to embark on a two match losing streak.

Larry would have taken this one by a pretty boring UD, in a match that wouldn't have done much to capture public attention. Page was tough enough to go the distance, but he was too wide open (and just plain too wide) a target for Holmes to miss with his harpoons. Page would do better if he was allowed to wear additional protective gear other than his cup-like an underwire. (Then, the network wouldn't have to pixellate his pendulous breasts.)

ps: I know it was me you were baiting JT. I didn't want to let you down.

I wasn't baiting you honestly, it's just been a fair while since Super Greg's name has come up.

[JohnThomas1]

Originally Posted by Larry " The Mallard" Holmes
Super greg page would have given me a boxing lesson


:lol:



What other evidence does one need.
:yep

[JohnThomas1]

Are you kidding me?????
Holmes would beat the shit out of any version of Greg Page.

What Page fights have you seen! You haven't seen the right fights. Have you witnessed Snipes and Coetzee?!?!?! Super Greg puts on a clinic, giving Snipes a real bath.

[robert ungurean]

What Page fights have you seen! You haven't seen the right fights. Have you witnessed Snipes and Coetzee?!?!?! Super Greg puts on a clinic, giving Snipes a real bath. Page will always be 2nd rate in my book.
I saw Page from the time he was an amature.

[JohnThomas1]

Page will always be 2nd rate in my book.
I saw Page from the time he was an amature.

Did you see the two mentioned fights or not?

[robert ungurean]

Did you see the two mentioned fights or not? Yes.
For me no big deal.They are both lousey fighters that he looked pretty good against in an otherwise unimpressive career.

[JohnThomas1]

Yes.
For me no big deal.They are both lousey fighters that he looked pretty good against in an otherwise unimpressive career.

What "non lousy" fighters would you say Holmes beat? Coetzee and Snipes are certainly up with most all of them. Snipes dropped him hard actually. Snipes and Witherspoon basically fought a draw right before Holmes fought Tim so he's not on a level above. Cooney's below. We're really only left with an aging Ken Norton as the pinnacle. Admittedly Holmes had a great record and eeked of consistency as opposed to Page, but he beat similar lousy guys. Berbick too is on a par. None of them stand out from one another excepting Norton, a titanic struggle.

[robert ungurean]

Page was a lazy bum.
Look at who he lost to then look at who Holmes lost too.
Holmes would have beat the shit out of Page.

There was nothing Page could do to Holmes.Larry was better at every aspect of the game and had something Page lacked which is HEART.

[Titan1]

Super Greg Page, with Greg being at the peak of his powers after the Snipes win! She's gonna be a tough one!

Get Greg to come in over 225, and steal something valuable of his.I feel Greg would've beaten Larry at this point in their careers.

[JohnThomas1]

Page was a lazy bum.
Look at who he lost to then look at who Holmes lost too.
Holmes would have beat the shit out of Page.

There was nothing Page could do to Holmes.Larry was better at every aspect of the game and had something Page lacked which is HEART.

Page was indeed a lazy bum but on his best night he's a handful for anyone. He also had a more powerful right hand than Holmes which certainly gives him one better aspect in the game and something that can certainly hurt Holmes. It's harder and faster than the Snipes right hand that had Holmes on queer street, so it's pretty silly to say Page had nothing to hurt Holmes. As far as beating the shit out of him, Witherspoon and Snipes sure had their moments not to mention others later. This was Holmes on the downside. It wasn't heart Page lacked, it was motivation and dedication. His heart is on display against Coetzee, easily mopping up punches that had the likes of Snipes and Spinks flat. Even later vs Ruddock he took many serious missiles before succumbing.

[unitas]

Super Greg Page, with Greg being at the peak of his powers after the Snipes win! She's gonna be a tough one!

WHAT IS with your love for page???:huh

[JohnThomas1]

WHAT IS with your love for page???:huh

Long story. He's one of those lost talents of which there are many. I believe that if he had the dedication and professionalism of Larry he would have reigned between the tail of Holmes to Tyson and even had a good scrap there. IMO he was the most talented of his era excepting Holmes, an era filled with underachievement and patheticism. Page, Dokes, Witherspoon, all had the chance to strive for big things and none of them came thru. Any of the 3 might have taken the time by the scruff depending on the other two. Thomas dedicated a little more and had a nice little run.