winky wright vs gerald mcclelan

[pjo479]

who wins and why:good

[red cobra]

Winky would win this fight much the same way that he won against Trinidad, and for that matter, the same way he wins against everybody. Wright is for sure, an acquired taste among boxing fans, but I think that fro a guy who dosen't ko anybody, Wright is perfectly equipped to beat just about anyone today with that style of his, which is so effective.

[chewy 22]

winky would beat him similar to how Michael Watson beat Nigel Benn back in the day...same styles, same fight

[pjo479]

yeah i agree this fight is just a dream in my head but i think the outcome would be similiar to the winky mosley fight ... only g mac hit ten times harder i think he would have roughed winky up a bit all be it said i think wink pulls it out though....

[Tim]

my money would be on gerald, particularly if he had manny steward in his corner. the g-man punched way harder than anyone winky have ever fought. if jermain taylor was able to bust up wright, the g-man would knock him out. all it would take is one shot.

[achillesthegreat]

Winky.

Gs shots are way too readable to get through Winks defence. Wink will score with his jab like Lionel Richie ALL NIGHT LONG!

[Sonny Carson]

G-Man would win the fight if Stewerd is in his corner. Taylor isn't half the fighter G-Man was and he gave Taylor trouble. This wouldn't be like Tito-Wright because G-Man is bigger than Winky unlike Tito and carries more power than Tito.

[achillesthegreat]

Yeah except Gerald was bigger and a better boxer than Mosley. Gerald was also bigger than Winky. You saw how Shane roughed him up, imagine G-Man. Damn what the hell is with you people?
He is bigger than Shane but in no shape or form is he a better boxer.

Shane roughed up Winky? When did that happen? Winky put the heat on him for 12 rounds and won at least 17/18 rounds of 24 that he had with Shane!

[achillesthegreat]

You have to be joking! In the second fight Shane took a good 4 rounds at least from Winky, and it looked like he might pull it off in the second half before Winky stole the last couple. Watch it again!

And yeah, G-Man was a better technical boxer than Shane. Better jab, better, better technique on his punches, bigger, WAY more powerful, especially at 160 to 168 where this fight would be. Winky wouldn't be putting that jab in his face all night long without being countered back by either G-Man's jab or his straight right. Too big, too strong, too powerful for Winky.
I'm not joking. Score that fight 7-5 and that makes up 5 rounds. How many do you think Shane won in the first fight?

G Man was bollocks technically in comparison to Shane. He did not have better technique and size and powere aren't technical prowress so they don't trump Shane. P4P Shane was just as sensational. Let's see how G performs at cruiser like Shane did against 154 fighters.

G Man was wild and not what people think. Very talented but not refined. Had he stayed with Steward he could have been schooled but he didn't and thus scientifically was a mess.

[Relentless]

dont worry achilles ignore him he just started watching boxing.

[Relentless]

Dude shut the fuck up you fucking homo and stop following me around this forum like a stalker. I know WAY more about boxing than you do.

Watch the two fight, G-Man is better technically, and way bigger and more powerful than Shane. You can't dispute the last two, and if Shane could rough up Winky like he did, you honestly think G-Man couldn't?

why/how?? because you got an avatar of a boxer from the 40's?? or is it because your alias is sweet pea?

[Relentless]

No, because you never post anything knowledgable AT ALL, and are only on this site to talk random shit to anyone and everyone to make your lame ass feel better. You talk shit for no fucking reason other than to be a dick.

Ask anyone in the classic forum, I know my shit. If you know your shit you have never proven it. Try actually posting sense instead of random insults to everyone.

ooh look sweet pea is angry, looks like i touched a nerve :| :|

[C Money]

Mcclellan is one of my all-time favorites, but i almost hate thinking of him because I remember the tragic way it ended .The worst, interfering, and biased referee in history who altered what should have been the real outcome of the fight, McClellan KO 1. It wasnt the count either, it was the outright pushing, stalling, and breaking agaisnt GM for the final two + minutes which prevented McClellan from getting his victory.

Always felt that Mcclellan was the one who would have KO'd RJJ and it never had a chance to materialize due to the tragedy. I always respect RJJ for the TRUE FRIENDSHIP he showed in the wake of that tragedy and the two were friends.

As for Winky?? Like Wink a lot and see him winning some rounds, but GM's massive power would have wore down and taken out Wink, IMO.
McClellan could be out boxed in spurts, so perhaps I'd give Wright about a 35% chance of pulling a decision win.

[Jack]

I like how you go and prove his point with one post!

Fuck off Relentless, you immature cunt.

[Relentless]

well i didn't read all of his post but what ever point he has proven it must be a good one for jack to be licking his balls like that.

[Ring Master]

I'll take G-man.

[red cobra]

:patsch Goddamn you are ridiculous. he has already lost and he almost lost ro mediocre Taylor, and will likely lose to Hopkins tonight. Winky's style isn't anywhere near suited to beating everbody. Goddamn what a ridiculous post. And I like Winky.

Most people are of the opinion that if anybody deserved to win Taylor-Wright it was Winky, and I like Taylor! McClellan was more impressive against a stationary target, or another puncher type. Wright it seems can handle damn near anybody with the same successful approach he always uses. By the way, what the hell do you mean by "he has already lost"? A loss in the past disqualifies him from winning tonight?

[Jack]

well i didn't read all of his post but what ever point he has proven it must be a good one for jack to be licking his balls like that.I didn't read his post either. However, I think you're a dick so I said it. Not just in this thread either - You seem to go from place to place insulting people for no point. Random insults, for fuck all.

I think Sweet Pea is a good poster, however, I rarely agree with what he thinks, so I'm not defending him because I like him - Shit, I'm not defending him at all. I'm having a go at you, because you're a cunt :good

[doublesuited]

Ask anyone in the classic forum, I know my shit. If you know your shit you have never proven it. Try actually posting sense instead of random insults to everyone. Wow, you don't have to be that modest. :roll:

[Relentless]

I didn't read his post either. However, I think you're a dick so I said it. Not just in this thread either - You seem to go from place to place insulting people for no point. Random insults, for fuck all.

I think Sweet Pea is a good poster, however, I rarely agree with what he thinks, so I'm not defending him because I like him - Shit, I'm not defending him at all. I'm having a go at you, because you're a cunt :good

what!? i haven't insulted anyone for weeks (except for maybe pimp c, younghypnotic and jack presscot)

[doublesuited]

Sweet Pea's problem is that he just doesn't respect other's opinions. If you have a view different from his, he'll call you out immediately (probably calling you a moron in the process). If you support your claims with evidence that he doesn't find suitable, he'll insult you even more.

Yup.

[achillesthegreat]

G-Man was wild but not Shane? Shane basically waits for you to get close and throws with all his might, wow very refined. G-Man was vicious, but had a great set up jab and straight right. Shane doesn't really have any go to punches, he just throws. Tough cat, but not technically as good as G. Factor in the power and size advantages he has on Shane and you don't think it's possible that G-Man beats Winky when Shane took probably 5 rounds? Get real.

Look at this guy

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Shane waits for you to get close then throws with all his might? What herbs are you smoking?

Shane took 5 rounds because his speed and skill are superior to Wrights. Plus Wright was fucking about alot and 5 rounds is the best you could give to Shane.

G Man loses because technically he isn't that good. He sense of range, his timing, his body of work defensively and offensively just isn't on par with Shanes or Wrights. Wright would pretty much pick off everything G has to offer and then score repeatedly with the jab.

Sure G has a power chance but on his night Gs power would be irrelevent, just like Shanes, Jermaines and Titos was. Four 2 or 3 rounds G is really dangerous.

[achillesthegreat]

I really don't see where you're coming from with your analysis on G, we must see two totally different things. I think he definitely beats Wright, not much question for me.
Yeah, we are seeing different things.

One day, we'll throw some tape on the big screen, sip on some rum and I'll explain what I mean in detail.

[red cobra]

Wright is not THAT good. You make it seem like he casn beat anyone simply from walking forward, covering up, and pumping out a jab. If it was that easy to beat eberyone boxing would be pretty lame. Did you see how much trouble Shane gave him in their second fight? Many fighters could work that strategy better, being bigger than Shane. I think he loses to Hopkins, but what I meant was you think he can beat anyone with his style(not true) despite the fact that he already has lost. He is capable of being beaten, and McClellan was one who could've.
In case you don't recall, McClellan was also "capable of being beaten", as Nigel Benn proved, and that dosen't mean that Benn's way was the only way to beat McClellan. It's also no shame that Shane Mosley gave Wright some trouble in that second fight, as Shane is a real good fighter. If anything, fighting a guy who gives you trouble and makes you struggle and STILL coming out on top like Winky did speaks better for him than some guy who blows everyone away with power and then folds when he fights the first guy who really contests him. I'm sorry about the tragedy of Gerald McClellan, and I mean no disrespect, but an argument can be made that that's exactly what happened to him when he fought Benn. There was no plan "B". Winky, on the other hand, has become more aggressive in his style (while it still consists pretty much of a high guard and a machine gun right jab). Again, Winky would have jabbed the living daylights out of Gerald, and beaten him on points, and that's exactly what he will do to Bernard Hopkins tonight.

[doublesuited]

I had no beef with Achilles at all, we were debating, until Relentless came in with his usual smack talk trying to rile me up like he does everyone else. The thing is, you often have trouble discerning between the comments people make when they're serious and the comments that people make when they're obviously saying it just to get a rise out of everyone. And for the latter, you fall right into their traps by telling them how big of an idiot they are, etc.

[doublesuited]

You do that to me more than anyone, and you do that a lot period, which is why I just took you to be a troll. Yup. And it's fun because you totally overreact when it was obvious to everyone else that I was joking just to get a rise out of you...

[C Money]

In case you don't recall, McClellan was also "capable of being beaten", as Nigel Benn proved, and that dosen't mean that Benn's way was the only way to beat McClellan. It's also no shame that Shane Mosley gave Wright some trouble in that second fight, as Shane is a real good fighter. If anything, fighting a guy who gives you trouble and makes you struggle and STILL coming out on top like Winky did speaks better for him than some guy who blows everyone away with power and then folds when he fights the first guy who really contests him. I'm sorry about the tragedy of Gerald McClellan, and I mean no disrespect, but an argument can be made that that's exactly what happened to him when he fought Benn. There was no plan "B". Winky, on the other hand, has become more aggressive in his style (while it still consists pretty much of a high guard and a machine gun right jab). Again, Winky would have jabbed the living daylights out of Gerald, and beaten him on points, and that's exactly what he will do to Bernard Hopkins tonight.

More like Alfred "I'm the biggest Asshole in the history of refereeing" Asaro proved:good There is clear evidience that that piece of shit ALTERED THE OUTCOME of that fight. If he hadnt pulled the stunts he did, GM finishes Benn in round 1.

I dont fault Benn, he fought gamely and did come back, AFTER BEING ALLOWED TO by the worst referee in the history of sport.

Based on what we saw tonight vs Hopkins, my inclination that G-man knocks him out late is looking better and better:good

[Ring Master]

I really don't see where you're coming from with your analysis on G, we must see two totally different things. I think he definitely beats Wright, not much question for me.

I feel you.

I think G-man takes this in convincing fashion.