View Full Version : 87 88 tyson vs current crop of heavies
pjo479
07-21-2007, 02:39 PM
personally i think this version of tyson is a menace to any heavyweight the last 25 years hands down ......
MrSmall
07-21-2007, 02:48 PM
Is this a serious question?
Anyone appearing for the first time from 1990 and onwards gets beat.
jonesjrp4p1
07-21-2007, 02:53 PM
are you serious the 88 mike tyson beats most hws if not all of any era especially now
pjo479
07-21-2007, 02:54 PM
yes it is a serious question but i think it needs to be raised because i hear so much about this current group of heavies that one should ask ...... im just looking to see what people think:think
You know what, Im not a big fan of his and feel he is an overrated guy in a weak field, but Wlad stylistically beats Tyson head to head. 87-88 Tyson beats anyone else wiht ease then flips them over and goes again.
rendog67
07-21-2007, 03:05 PM
I would love to see the look in Wlad's eyes when he got hit with a tyson bomb the word TERROR! springs to mind.
IntentionalButt
07-21-2007, 03:06 PM
Lennox and both Klits, all in their primes (we'll assume that current ES-tweaked Wlad is prime) beat Tyson handily. Too big and too skilled for Mike's considerable crack to even become a factor.
Brighton bomber
07-21-2007, 03:11 PM
I would favour prime Tyson to beat anyone around at the moment, even Wlad. Wlad under Steward as a style that could give prime Tyson big problems. But Tyson has a good chin and with his speed and power I can't see Wlad going morethan 6 rounds without having to take one of Tyson fast power punches, at which point Wlad is hurt and Tyson goes in for the kill and KO's Wlad while behind on the scorecards.
pjo479
07-21-2007, 03:12 PM
tyson destroys both russians hands down .... he would have had both of them mentally beat before the fight
Zakman
07-21-2007, 03:12 PM
personally i think this version of tyson is a menace to any heavyweight the last 25 years hands down ......
With the exception of a prime Holyfield, I would agree with you.
MrSmall
07-21-2007, 03:23 PM
What are you smoking.
Prime Tyson isn't Brewster catching 5 jabs with his eye and returning one half assed punch vs Wlad.
Nor is he Tua who is a poor man's Tyson, and nowhere near as fast vs Lewis as prime Mike was.
Truth is: Lewis nor Wlad have faced or will face anyone as fast, or powerful, with the style of Tyson. Haters will throw the usual "Lewis kicked his ass" and "Tyson crumbled when you stood up to him", which are pretty baseless arguments.
Personally I think Tyson would kick Wlad's overrated (but at the moment dominant and pretty decent) ass. Vs a prime Lewis I have no idea, I don't really know enough about Lewis, but I think he would take him late, or win a UD. I really don't know, but I'm edging Tyson, I think Lewis' size and resume, while impressive, make people think he's god. I think he'd have trouble with Tyson's speed more than power, but Mike would get to him.
My 2 cents!
barneyrub
07-21-2007, 04:15 PM
You know what, Im not a big fan of his and feel he is an overrated guy in a weak field, but Wlad stylistically beats Tyson head to head. 87-88 Tyson beats anyone else wiht ease then flips them over and goes again.I think Tyson would of beat wlad, wlad would struggle to retain his composure and i can visualise him in panic and his legs wobbling, vitali though would beat prime Tyson I believe, he is just too big and with his unique sway back style would be very hard for Tyson to catch. The best of Lewis obviously would beat the best Tyson also in my opinion.
barneyrub
07-21-2007, 04:22 PM
I would favour prime Tyson to beat anyone around at the moment, even Wlad. Wlad under Steward as a style that could give prime Tyson big problems. But Tyson has a good chin and with his speed and power I can't see Wlad going morethan 6 rounds without having to take one of Tyson fast power punches, at which point Wlad is hurt and Tyson goes in for the kill and KO's Wlad while behind on the scorecards.Wlad looks good recently but when you look at the opposition its no wonder, he has been able to be comfortable and stick to his fightplan sinc ethe opponents have done nothing. Wlad boxes very well but against anyone with any fight in him who knows today. Wlad sticks to the gameplan and thats his problem, if he is ruffdled he panics and lunges in to grab, he doesnt have the imagination or variation in his work if he is forced out of his gameplan, no creative artistic variation. What he is is efficient and robotic. Have you ever seen him go inside and throw an uppercut? Tyson would ruffle his feathers in the way Peter managed but Tyson would have much more success, of course he could get tired out from being leaned on and held by wlad.
ryanty22
07-21-2007, 04:24 PM
mccall, wlad, vitali, tua, chagaev all knock tyson out
sues2nd
07-21-2007, 04:25 PM
Is this a serious question?
Anyone appearing for the first time from 1990 and onwards gets beat.
Ummm, except Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis. Other than that....you are right.
ryanty22
07-21-2007, 04:28 PM
and as far as the last 25 yrs tyson was always scared of big george who would of knocked tyson out in two or three
goldnarms
07-21-2007, 05:04 PM
No, you're an idiot. Tyson was never "afriad" of foreman and its ludicrous to say so. Prime for prime, tyson ices foreman, who in my opinion is the least skilled champion of all time regardless of weightclass.
Not saying Tyson was afraid of Foreman by any means. But you dont think Foreman possesed any attributes that could have given Mike a problem.
I think when you look at what Foreman had as opposed to what he didnt have it can be a very difficult bout for Mike.
guillermojm
07-21-2007, 06:04 PM
tyson in his prime would knock them all out one after the other the same night....
Alo2006
07-21-2007, 06:10 PM
87 and 88 Tyson crushes every heavy weight today :yep
PavlikPoundsYou
07-21-2007, 06:15 PM
He might crush nearly every heavyweight ever.
Sonny Carson
07-21-2007, 06:49 PM
There's no way Wlad would beat a prime Tyson. Tyson would make him miss and hit him with a surprise left hook and Wlad wouldn't be able to shake it off.
Mrboogie23
07-21-2007, 08:34 PM
87-88 Tyson would be a very big problem for any heavyweight in history. No bullshit.
I think he starches Wladimir. Tyson was VERY good at getting inside. He had extremely fast footwork and worked his way in with great body movement.
Once inside he was very busy to the body and head. All of that spells trouble for Wladimir. Wlad has never faced the kind of pressure, speed, power that this version of Tyson would bring to the table.
codeman99998
07-21-2007, 10:23 PM
What are you smoking.
Prime Tyson isn't Brewster catching 5 jabs with his eye and returning one half assed punch vs Wlad.
Nor is he Tua who is a poor man's Tyson, and nowhere near as fast vs Lewis as prime Mike was.
Truth is: Lewis nor Wlad have faced or will face anyone as fast, or powerful, with the style of Tyson. Haters will throw the usual "Lewis kicked his ass" and "Tyson crumbled when you stood up to him", which are pretty baseless arguments.
Personally I think Tyson would kick Wlad's overrated (but at the moment dominant and pretty decent) ass. Vs a prime Lewis I have no idea, I don't really know enough about Lewis, but I think he would take him late, or win a UD. I really don't know, but I'm edging Tyson, I think Lewis' size and resume, while impressive, make people think he's god. I think he'd have trouble with Tyson's speed more than power, but Mike would get to him.
My 2 cents!
Why is it a baseless argument? It is not enough to say there is no base for it, without explaining why.
deram
07-21-2007, 10:27 PM
The only one with a chance is a top of his game Vitaly.
Wlad is obviously next but imo. his mental state plays right into Tyson's game. Vitaly on th other hand is as cool as they come.
Into The Mix
07-21-2007, 10:35 PM
What great champ has Tyson beat, the arguement that Tyson could defeat any top heavyweights is like saying Ricky Hatton fifteen years down the road could be the fighters in his current weight division. Lets face the facts, Tyson never dethrone the greats, same as Hatton so yes he looked like he was destroying opponents because the people he faced SHOULD have gotten destroyed. Let all remember that this great Mike Tyson got Molly Wopped around the ring by non other then Buster Douglas...
The Exile
07-21-2007, 10:55 PM
Im sorry but if an old semi retired Corrie Sanders can KO Wlad then an in prime Tyson would do the same without a doubt.
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