rank your top ten british fighters of last decade P4P

[Benjiabc]

whats your list of top ten british fighters of the last decade p4p in terms of H2H ability and resume

heres mine

lennox lewis
joe calzaghe
ricky hatton
nazeem hamed
david haye
carl thompson
robin reid
johnny nelson
richie woodhall
scott harrison

apologies if i missed any obvious ones off, just a personal list whats yours?

[Tony Harrison]

Wayne McCulloch deserves a mention. I loved watching that nutter fight.

I think your top 10 is perfectly feasable though.

[toffeejack]

Calzaghe
Lewis
Hamed
Hatton
Haye
Reid
Scott Harrison
Woods
Nelson
Woodhall

[Benjiabc]

nice one, forgot about woods, he deserves a shout

[robpalmer135]

Calzaghe
Lewis
Hammed
Hatton
Haye
Nelson
Harrison
Woods
Witter
Reid

[Smith]

Lennox Lewis
Joe Calzaghe
Naseem Hamed
David Haye
Ricky Hatton
Robin Reid
Scott Harrison
Johnny Nelson
Junior Witter
Carl Thompson

[Beeston Brawler]

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Ricky Hatton
4. Naseem Hamed
5. David Haye
6. Herbie Hide
7. Robin Reid
8. Junior Witter
9. Clinton Woods
10. Scott Harrison

Two things:

Putting Calzaghe above Lewis is daft, as is Haye over Hatton :deal

Other than that, pretty good from everyone.

[Smith]

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Ricky Hatton
4. Naseem Hamed
5. David Haye
6. Herbie Hide
7. Robin Reid
8. Junior Witter
9. Clinton Woods
10. Scott Harrison

Two things:

Putting Calzaghe above Lewis is daft, as is Haye over Hatton :deal

Other than that, pretty good from everyone.

Says who? You?

I consider Haye a superior boxer than Hatton in every way shape and form, and he will be above Hatton in my list 100 times out of 100.

[robpalmer135]

yeh hatton never unified.

[Benjiabc]

how can haye be above hatton in terms of p4p though? his resume is not near, half as many fights

[Fat Joe]

Lennox Lewis
Joe Calzaghe
Naseem Hamed
Johnny Nelson
Scott Harrison
Junior Witter
Ricky Hatton
David Haye
Herbie Hide
Wayne McCullough

[mike464]

Lewis
Naz
Hatton
Calzaghe
Haye
Witter
Nelson
Hide
Reid
Woods

[dukestreet]

1. Lennox Lewis
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Naseem Hamed
4. Ricky Hatton
5. David Haye
6. Herbie Hide
7. Junior Witter
8. Robin Reid
9. Johnny Nelson
10. Clinton Woods

[Benjiabc]

Lennox Lewis
Joe Calzaghe
Naseem Hamed
Johnny Nelson
Scott Harrison
Junior Witter
Ricky Hatton
David Haye
Herbie Hide
Wayne McCullough


lol this list is shocking

[Maza1987]

^^yes, i almost fell off my chair after reading that one.

[Fat Joe]

lol this list is shocking

Which part of it specifically?

[TFFP]

Lewis
Calzaghe
Hamed
Haye
Hatton
Reid
Harrison
Woods
Nelson
Witter

[D-MAC]

Lennox
Joe C
Naz
David Haye
Ricky Hatton
Junior Witter
Robin Reid
Scott Harrison
Clinton Woods
Wayne McCullough

[Beeston Brawler]

Haye unified his division, which was great, but could you really say that Mormeck and Maccarinelli were superior to Tszyu and Maussa - because I can't!

[D-MAC]

Haye unified his division, which was great, but could you really say that Mormeck and Maccarinelli were superior to Tszyu and Maussa - because I can't!

M&M are far superior to Maussa (he's fucking terrible); hard to argue with Tszyu though.

[Beeston Brawler]

Tszyu > Mormeck
Maussa < Maccarinelli

Tszyu > Maccarinelli
Maussa < Mormeck

Point taken :deal

The Maussa fight was only taken as an easy unification fight anyway - the champs at that point were Cotto and Mayweather. Not sure who Cotto was in with, whilst Mayweather had just destroyed Gatti.

[SleazeNation]

Lennox Lewis
Naseem Hamed
Ricky Hatton
David Haye
Joe Calzaghe
Scott Harrison
Johnny Nelson
Junior Witter
Clinton Woods
Robin Reid

[Fat Joe]

Haye hasn't been around for long and he's been beaten by Thompson and really struggled agaisnt Fragomeni. A couple of big wins @ HW and he'll fly up my list.

My list is a bit different than some of the others on here and has been compiled with a bit of favouritism rather than cold hard fact.

[Beeston Brawler]

I'm surprised Sleaze didn't have Hatton at No.1!

I would put him above Hamed personally - and we have a Calzaghe hater to go along with Mike.

[TommyV]

1 Lennox Lewis
2 Joe Calzaghe
3 Naseem Hamed
4 Ricky Hatton
5 David Haye
6 Clinton Woods
7 Johnny Nelson
8 Robin Reid
9 Herbie Hide
10 Wayne McCullough

The likes of Harrison, Eastman, Thompson, Woodhall, Witter, Brodie miss out.

[TFFP]

The criteria set out by the poster was resume AND h2h talent, so it is perfectly justifiable to have Haye above Hatton. Haye is by far the more skilled fighter, and doesn't rely on hugging as 50% of his game.

[D-MAC]

The criteria set out by the poster was resume AND h2h talent, so it is perfectly justifiable to have Haye above Hatton. Haye is by far the more skilled fighter, and doesn't rely on hugging as 50% of his game.

Indeed

:deal

[onourway]

Lennox Lewis
Joe Calzaghe
Naseem Hamed
Johnny Nelson
Scott Harrison
Junior Witter
Ricky Hatton
David Haye
Herbie Hide
Wayne McCullough

Witter above Hatton?

You're a joke.

[onourway]

The criteria set out by the poster was resume AND h2h talent, so it is perfectly justifiable to have Haye above Hatton. Haye is by far the more skilled fighter, and doesn't rely on hugging as 50% of his game.

Hatton would beat Haye P4P.

The worst stylistic match up for Haye is a pressure fighter who's on his chest.

Haye is very economical with his punches, I think he'd lose rounds to a busy guy like Hatton.

He has a punchers chance though.

[Fat Joe]

Witter above Hatton?

You're a joke.

Part of the thread starters criteria - p4p in terms of H2H ability

According to some on here just because Witter lost to Bradley that somehow means he never would have beat Hatton:patsch

Lazcano had Hatton badly hurt at one point - I'm sure Witter hits harder than him.

[Fat Joe]

Hatton would beat Haye P4P.

The worst stylistic match up for Haye is a pressure fighter who's on his chest.

Haye is very economical with his punches, I think he'd lose rounds to a busy guy like Hatton.

He has a punchers chance though.

I see where you are coming from. Fragomeni gave Haye a tough fight and Hatton is more dynamic than him.

[Smith]

Haye has only a punchers chance against Hatton H2H!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listen to your fucking selfs, this is embarrassing.

Get some knowledge.

[onourway]

Part of the thread starters criteria - p4p in terms of H2H ability

According to some on here just because Witter lost to Bradley that somehow means he never would have beat Hatton:patsch

Lazcano had Hatton badly hurt at one point - I'm sure Witter hits harder than him.

Hatton's resume out weighs Witter's. As do his achievements. And his overall performances, the way he won etc

You can't say 'Well Lazcano hurt Hatton and Witter hits harder, that means Witter wins'

Because then I'll say 'Bradley beat Witter, I'm sure Hatton is better than Bradley......which means Hatton is better H2H'

[onourway]

Haye has only a punchers chance against Hatton H2H!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listen to your fucking selfs, this is embarrassing.

Get some knowledge.
I think it's a bad styles match up for Haye.

Somebody who pressures Haye, throws a lot of punches, has a good chin and will very rarely be at the end of the punch has a very good chance against him.

Can Haye fight on the inside? I don't think so.

[Beeston Brawler]

He means P4P Smithy!

If you look at the following criteria P4P:

Power: Haye A, Hatton B+
Speed: Haye B, Hatton B
Chin: Haye B-, Hatton B+
Footwork: Haye B+, Hatton A
Jab: Haye B+, Hatton U
Inside: Haye ??, Hatton B+
Head Shots: Haye B+, Hatton B+
Body Shots: Haye B-, Hatton A
Stamina: Haye B, Hatton A-
Heart: Haye B+, Hatton A
Ring Savvy: Haye B+, Hatton A-

Overall: Haye B+, Hatton A-

My opinion only

[Smith]

He means P4P Smithy!

If you look at the following criteria P4P:

Power: Haye A+, Hatton B
Speed: Haye A, Hatton B-
Chin: Haye B+, Hatton B+
Footwork: Haye A-, Hatton B-
Jab: Haye A-, Hatton N/A
Inside: Haye B, Hatton B+
Head Shots: Haye A-, Hatton B-
Body Shots: Haye A-, Hatton A+
Stamina: Haye B, Hatton A-(it was A before for Ricky, now -)
Heart: Haye A, Hatton A+(how do you rate Hayes heart that low, proof?)
Ring Savvy: Haye A-, Hatton B

Overall: Haye A-, Hatton B/-

My opinion onlyIve changed it to my opinion, bearing in mind ive watched every Haye pro fight bar two, and followed him in the ams.

[toffeejack]

I think the top 2 are clear cut whichever way around you have them.

To be honest the top 5 should be pretty much clear cut also and anyone who has Hatton above Calzaghe in this particular list is clearly a Calzaghe hater or just plain stupid.

[TFFP]

Haye has a punchers chance against Hatton h2h :rofl

That's one hell of a punchers chance, considering he was out for the count against Mayweather who isn't even a huge puncher p4p, and was wobbled by Lazcano, a lightweight

Against possibly the biggest p4p puncher in world boxing, with great timing and a pinpoint right hand that will catch him everytime he lunges in open. If thats what you call a punchers chance...I despair :roll:

[onourway]

Hatton got KO'd by Mayweather, because he was chasing the fight and seeking the KO.

I don't think he'd be in a position where he'd have to chase the fight against Haye, because he'd win the majority of rounds.

I see Haye as a bit like Tszyu, likes people at the end of his punches, has great timing until pressured and struggles overall against pressure. Lets not forget that Hatton has more than enough power to drop the poor chinned Haye. I don't think he has an inside game.

Haye's chance would be in the first 6 rounds and as you say, if he catches Ricky on the way in. After this, Hatton's superior stamina and relentless pressure would take over and probably stop Haye.

[TFFP]

Prime Hatton would have a shot h2h, because stylistically he does pose a few problems, current version not a chance

Wobbled by Lazcano and we're supposed to believe he takes Haye's bombs? He's lost his ability to take a punch, and also his stamina which was previously his biggest asset, is nothing to write home about now. Both signs of too many beers.

Also, I don't think he lands the sort of punches that are liable to starch Haye with one shot, as is possible. His punches are mostly wide hooks, which not only leave him completely open to Haye's right hand, but they are more clubbing shots than KO shots. He would need accumulation.

To me, Haye is just entering his prime, and Hatton is on the slide.

[mrplow182]

I'd have Billy Schwer and Shea Neary up in that list just for pure entertainment value, as was Ryan Rhodes back in the day!!

[Betty Swollocks]

Haye unified his division, which was great, but could you really say that Mormeck and Maccarinelli were superior to Tszyu and Maussa - because I can't!

Maccarinelli is better than Maussa p4p. And Haye went to fight Mormeck in his hometown, Hatton on the other hand had a massive advantage home to Tszyu will all the cheating that went on....so the fact Mormeck is not as good as Tszyu is negated somewhat by the variables.

1. Lewis
2. Calzaghe
3. Hamed
4. Haye
5. Hatton
6. Harrison
7.Witter
8. Thompson
9. Brodie
10. Eastman

[Fat Joe]

1. Lewis
2. Calzaghe
3. Hamed
4. Haye
5. Hatton
6. Harrison:yikes
7.Witter
8. Thompson
9. Brodie
10. Eastman

Audley is shite

[TommyV]

Are people actually debating in here whether Hatton could beat Haye? :huh























:lol:

[GazOC]

Lewis
JC
Hamed
Hatton
Haye
Reid
Nelson
S Harrision
Woodsl
Woodhall

[GazOC]

I like to thank Joe for his list was well....:good Truly awful...

[9Ball]

1. Lewis
2. JC
3. Naz
4. Hatton
5. Haye
6. Nelson
7. Reid
8. Woods
9. Williams (purely for the Tyson win)
10. Woodhall

Scott Harrison just misses out by a whiskey..oops, meant to say whisker :patsch

And Witter just misses out by a Bradley.

:cool:

[JonOli]

I consider Haye a superior boxer than Hatton in every way shape and form, and he will be above Hatton in my list 100 times out of 100.

Based on what?

How many p4p fighters has Haye beat, he got ktfo by an old Thompson.

[TommyV]

To be fair, Haye is the technically better boxer. He's bound to be in fairness due to his amateur career. He's quicker, sharper and can just box better in general. Hatton's wins don't come via his boxing ability, they come through pressure, power and will.

[Smith]

Haye has a punchers chance against Hatton h2h :rofl

That's one hell of a punchers chance, considering he was out for the count against Mayweather who isn't even a huge puncher p4p, and was wobbled by Lazcano, a lightweight

Against possibly the biggest p4p puncher in world boxing, with great timing and a pinpoint right hand that will catch him everytime he lunges in open. If thats what you call a punchers chance...I despair :roll:Its a joke isn't it TFFP......:-(:lol:

I despair sometimes on here with what is said. We should ask these guys where they get there glasses from, I could do with a pair of blinkers like them.

[Smith]

Based on what?

How many p4p fighters has Haye beat, he got ktfo by an old Thompson. :patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch

Based on what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listen little boy, there are so many variables in who a fighter faces thats relative to there division that................oh fuck it, I can't be arsed with ignorant little spongs like yourself.

[Fat Joe]

I like to thank Joe for his list was well....:good Truly awful...

:lol: I'm glad you enjoyed it

[GazOC]

I can't believe people are getting worked up over a mythical P4P H2H fight....the boxing scene must be a little slow right now.

[TFFP]

It is. We've got Khan - Gomez to look forward to :patsch

And Ricky Hatton isn't fighting until November or something, so we're 47 threads short

[Govanmauler]

It is. We've got Khan - Gomez to look forward to :patsch

And Ricky Hatton isn't fighting until November or something, so we're 47 threads short

:good

You could always abuse my choices for a bit longer :lol:

( i am kidding I reeeeeaaally dont want to get into another argument ! )

[Haye]

Lennox Lewis
Joe Calzaghe
Naseem Hamed
David Haye
Ricky Hatton
Robin Reid
Scott Harrison
Johnny Nelson
Junior Witter
Carl Thompson

How is David Haye ranked above Hatton?
:patsch
You fucking moron.

[TommyV]

How is David Haye ranked above Hatton?
:patsch
You fucking moron.

Why don't you look back in the thread and look at the points made already instead of insulting people and bringing it up again?

I wouldn't have Haye ahead of Hatton myself, but since he has completely dominated at cruiserweight and since part of this list is supposed to be based on ability then it's pefectly logical to have Haye above Hatton as he's a much better fighter in terms of ability.

[Hatesrats]

I'll take a shot at a top 5, Based on opposition mores so than accomplishment's.
-Seeing as ABC Championship's have lost alot of meaning since even before '98-
From 1998-2008 (IMO)

1. Lennox Lewis [9 Wins 1 Loss 1 Draw 6 K.O.'s]

*Vs. Shannon Briggs
*Vs. Zeljko Mavrovic
*Vs. Evander Holyfield (x2)
*Vs. Michael Grant
*Vs. Francois Botha
*Vs. David Tua
*Vs. Hasim Rahman (x2)
*Vs. Mike Tyson
*Vs. Vitali Klitschko

2. Joe Calzaghe [22 wins 0 Loss 11 K.O.'s]

*Vs. Omar Sheika
*Vs. Charles Brewer
*Vs. Robin Reid
*Vs. Jeff Lacy
*Vs. Mikkel Kessler
*Vs. Bernard Hopkins

3. Ricky Hatton [42 Wins 1 Loss 30 K.O.'s]

*Vs. Freddie Pendleton
*Vs. Vince Phillips
*Vs. Ben Tackie
*Vs. Kostya Tszyu
*Vs. Jose Luis Castillo
*Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr

4. Prince Naseem Hamed [7 Wins 1 Loss 4 K.O.s]

*Vs. Wilfredo Vazquez
*Vs. Wayne McCullough
*Vs. Paul Ingle
*Vs. Cesar Soto
*Vs. Vuyani Bungu
*Vs. Marco Antonio Barrera

5. David Haye [21 Wins 1 Loss 20 K.O.'s]

*Vs. Jean Marc Mormeck
*Vs. Enzo Maccarinelli
*Vs. Carl Thompson (x2)

[Smith]

How is David Haye ranked above Hatton?
:patsch
You fucking moron.What the fuck is your problem you fucking reject. Youve got a stinking attitude, as evident in your last bombardment against me in the lounge.

Listen you slimy piece of shit, if you bother reading the thread you will see why I think so, and why others have chosen the same option, yet you attack me, shock horror. You sir, are a prick of the highest order.

[mike464]

5. David Haye [21 Wins 1 Loss 20 K.O.'s]

*Vs. Jean Marc Mormeck
*Vs. Enzo Maccarinelli
*Vs. Carl Thompson (x2)You probably already know that Haye only fought Thompson once.

[Hatesrats]

You probably already know that Haye only fought Thompson once.
Oh shit I fucked up, what are the chances of that...