arthur gets raped at world level.

[stuey]

on tonights showing. easy to hit, slow, poor poor effort

[SevenSamurai]

I agree I am afraid.

He was completely outboxed for the first 3 rounds and lost all of them.

He beat Gogo through superior power and conditioning. Gogo is a 34 year old journeyman.

If anyone thinks he is good enough to beat the best they are deluded, he is not skilled enough and accurate enough with his work.

Having said that he won the fight.

[claudius brown]

hey he is a WORLD champion now:D

[PrideOfWales]

AAA won this but if Gogo had not run out of steam at the mid point, Alex would have been completely outboxed. Arthur looked slow and ponderous early but did well to weather it and win.

Arthur "I'm sick of the word 'interim' - I AM the world champion!" - erm.. No Alex.

I liked his comment in the interview "My son will never be a boxer, if he says he wants to be, I'll make sure Frank ****** manages him!"

[stuey]

seems a decent enough geezer, but guzman would tear him a new one.

[chewy 22]

where we watching the same fight? Arthur blocked most of Gogoladze's punches with his paws. Pretty good defence.

Arthur is world class, but not an elite fighter. He lacks the speed at the top, but definently has the power to trouble most of the champs.

[SevenSamurai]

where we watching the same fight? Arthur blocked most of Gogoladze's punches with his paws. Pretty good defence.

Arthur is world class, but not an elite fighter. He lacks the speed at the top, but definently has the power to trouble most of the champs.

If Gogo had kept his form and his work rate of the first 3 rounds throughout the fight he would have won a wide decision. Arthur is just inbetween world class and european class level.

[PrideOfWales]

If Gogo had kept his form and his work rate of the first 3 rounds throughout the fight he would have won a wide decision. Arthur is just inbetween world class and european class level.

I'd have to agree.

[safe_pa]

where we watching the same fight? Arthur blocked most of Gogoladze's punches with his paws. Pretty good defence.



Couldn't seem to stay away from Gogoladze's head though could he?
I am happy for AA but I too think that he will find it much harder at real world level.

[chewy 22]

If Gogo had kept his form and his work rate of the first 3 rounds throughout the fight he would have won a wide decision. Arthur is just inbetween world class and european class level.

bullshit. everytime athrur hit him the gogo would fold, then hold

you know, iv 'lurked' here for a while an its always surprised me how Scots get a raw deal from the posters

[AllyT]

seems a decent enough geezer, but guzman would tear him a new one.

Guzman will not fight Arthur

[stuey]

bullshit. everytime athrur hit him the gogo would fold, then hold

you know, iv 'lurked' here for a while an its always surprised me how Scots get a raw deal from the posters

its not a nationality thing, he simply is not world class.
yes he is a decent fighter, but super feather is a seriously tough division. he lacks just a little of everything to be world class.

[chewy 22]

its not a nationality thing, he simply is not world class.
yes he is a decent fighter, but super feather is a seriously tough division. he lacks just a little of everything to be world class.

power?

[stuey]

power?

yes power, sure he has a reasonable dig, but not a world level one, dont get me wrong, i like him, but you have to be realistic

[AllyT]

A little harsh I feel.

My son has sparred with alex Arthur and he is extremely powerful.

The guy he just smashed is called the cobra due to his lightning speed. He was always going to get hit

He was dirty as a mad whores f*nny.


(Go on Gavin ,Rees)


Considering the guys speed, ring wisdom, arthurs cut and the fact Arthur has not boxed since november he dis a good job

Well done to you First Ex Leith Victoria World champion (once Guzman gives up title) since Jonny Hill.

Gomez at the Castle anyone?

[TAM83]

Wow a bit harsh on Arthur I reckon. Not going to claim he'll clean up the division but I reckon some of the stuff being said is a bit harsh.

He was fighting a solid opponent who was as dirty as I've seen in a while, and he was a southpaw. Any southpaw can make a performance look scrappy (Hatton/Mausa).

His defence was a bit open sometimes but I think he had felt his power and knew he wouldn't hurt him.

The jury is still out but I think it's too early to say he gets raped at world level.


Well done ARTHUR

[LeedsLad]

on tonights showing. easy to hit, slow, poor poor effort

Dont you look like an idiot now:lol: Just kidding mate, watching the first couple of rounds id of said the same. AAA came through though, an awesome night for British boxing.

[finzwinz]

Absolute codswallop! Only an idiot, or someone with an anti AA agenda would say that was a shit performance this evening.

AA boxed cleverly against a tricky, and lightning quick fringe contender. There was never any doubt that AA would start slowly against the quicker Goladze. While the Georgian came out flying, AA was getting in the better punches and slowed him down, and took him out later....good stategy and well done Alex.

As another poster suggested, the anti Scottish boxer sentiment is outrageous on here! Get a life Stuey you sad fucker!

[LeedsLad]

Honestly, Arthur looked like he was having a little trouble with the tricky southpaw early on. But after 3-4 rounds AAA stepped it up and made Gogoladze look ordinary, time to step it up now and fight some of the best. He may not win, but he can give anyone a good fight.

[SevenSamurai]

bullshit. everytime athrur hit him the gogo would fold, then hold

you know, iv 'lurked' here for a while an its always surprised me how Scots get a raw deal from the posters

Gogo was winning the rounds easily and clearly. Everyone scoring the fight had him 4-1 up after 5 rounds. I give Arthur credit for winning and for coming back strongly, but if someone like Gogo can do that to him I am afraid he is lacking in something he cannot learn when he steps up.

I like Arthur as a fighter and I give him credit for winning the fight.

[stuey]

Absolute codswallop! Only an idiot, or someone with an anti AA agenda would say that was a shit performance this evening.

AA boxed cleverly against a tricky, and lightning quick fringe contender. There was never any doubt that AA would start slowly against the quicker Goladze. While the Georgian came out flying, AA was getting in the better punches and slowed him down, and took him out later....good stategy and well done Alex.

As another poster suggested, the anti Scottish boxer sentiment is outrageous on here! Get a life Stuey you sad fucker!

less of the internet warrior stuff geezer:smooch

you have to look at the facts, he wore plenty early on and was being clearly outboxed by a journeyman. he is a good fighter, but world class he aint.

[AllyT]

less of the internet warrior stuff geezer:smooch

you have to look at the facts, he wore plenty early on and was being clearly outboxed by a journeyman. he is a good fighter, but world class he aint.

You have no idea what a journyman is

[BigEars]

1. Gogoladze is B class at World level , far from a fucking journeyman
2.'Gogoladze was picking him apart till he gassed' , you think those brutal body shots might have something to do with him 'gassing .

It was obvious from the start the Georgian was a very tricky southpaw and Arthur did what he often does , sacrifice the early rounds to wear the man down . Anyone remember the Burns fight ? , Arthur lost the first 3 but kept working the body and it paid dividends . Also I had the first 5 rounds 3-2 to the Georgian not him winning every one .

3. Guess who the IBF champ is ?..........Mzonke Fana , does anyone doubt Arthur could beat him ?
If Frank does his job Arthur could easily find himself WBO and IBF champ , something that's very hard to accomplish if you're not World class .

Alex Arthur is A level , he's just not Elite .

[dwilson]

I thought it took him three rounds to figure the southpaw style out. Gogo was decent but not world class. Nice to get a belt. Hope he can keep it. It will be nice to see him face onef the big boys and get a true judgement of his top level credentials.

[Max Molyneux]

Arthur tends to be a slow starter so losing early rounds seems to happen with Arthur. He lost early rounds to Burns too and still won.

I agree with Bigears he's A level but not elite.

[dwilson]

1. Gogoladze is B class at World level , far from a fucking journeyman
2.'Gogoladze was picking him apart till he gassed' , you think those brutal body shots might have something to do with him 'gassing .

It was obvious from the start the Georgian was a very tricky southpaw and Arthur did what he often does , sacrifice the early rounds to wear the man down . Anyone remember the Burns fight ? , Arthur lost the first 3 but kept working the body and it paid dividends . Also I had the first 5 rounds 3-2 to the Georgian not him winning every one .

3. Guess who the IBF champ is ?..........Mzonke Fana , does anyone doubt Arthur could beat him ?
If Frank does his job Arthur could easily find himself WBO and IBF champ , something that's very hard to accomplish if you're not World class .

Alex Arthur is A level , he's just not Elite .


Once gain i agree with Bigears.

[jc]

i dont want to base my opinion on tonights perforance as I know he was fighting one awkward, dirty southpaw but i have had the opinion that AAA is clearly a couple of levels below the likes of Marquez, Pac, Guzman etc.

he's a big super featherweight and overpowered the georgian mostly tonight, but showed speed does trouble him as does movement.

****** has managed to manufacture a world belt for him though and I think he will go on to succesfully defend it. Probabably in his back yard against Michael Gomez.

[AllyT]

i dont want to base my opinion on tonights perforance as I know he was fighting one awkward, dirty southpaw but i have had the opinion that AAA is clearly a couple of levels below the likes of Marquez, Pac, Guzman etc.

he's a big super featherweight and overpowered the georgian mostly tonight, but showed speed does trouble him as does movement.

****** has managed to manufacture a world belt for him though and I think he will go on to succesfully defend it. Probabably in his back yard against Michael Gomez.

You should base your opiniomn on tonights performance.

This guy was super fast, super ringwise, and by any streatch of the imagination no mug. Arthur who has not boxed since November smashed him like he has never been smashed.

[dwilson]

i dont want to base my opinion on tonights perforance as I know he was fighting one awkward, dirty southpaw but i have had the opinion that AAA is clearly a couple of levels below the likes of Marquez, Pac, Guzman etc.

he's a big super featherweight and overpowered the georgian mostly tonight, but showed speed does trouble him as does movement.

****** has managed to manufacture a world belt for him though and I think he will go on to succesfully defend it. Probabably in his back yard against Michael Gomez.

Marquez and Pac are amazing but AA could sit with the others.

With so many titles its easy for so so fighters to get thier hands on a belt but AA is not one of these, he is class. It just happens that two top pfp fighters are in his division right now.

What chance of getting AA a fight with the other main guys? I would imagine it would be pretty good seen as he's not considered a huge threat and the red tape back in America with certain fighters.

[Max Molyneux]

Didn't Arthur Injure Pac In Sparring when he sparred with Pac.

A good counter puncher will beat Pac, he mostly just has raw speed and power.

[AllyT]

Didn't Arthur Injure Pac In Sparring when he sparred with Pac.

A good counter puncher will beat Pac, he mostly just has raw speed and power.

My youngest son ( 18 ) can squat well over twice his boyyweight so for a boxer he is quite strong. Arthur, believe me is a lot stronger. I know that if Arthur hits you, you have been truly hit.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Congratulations Alex Arthur, he hs finally proved to the world that he deserves his nicknme of 'Amazing':happy

Im glad to see some of the usual suspects are hurting on this thread, & whingeing about how fat Guzman would put Alex in his place:lol:

I have been posting here for years now & have always explained that Alex is a slow starter, but gets stronger as a fight goes on. But the haters are in screaming for crumbs of comfort in that Alex didnt dominate from the first bell:patsch

I hope Guzman fights Arthur, cos Arthur wil do to him what Harrison should have done years ago, retire the big mouth.

Well done amazing Alex Arthur, & IMO hes one defining fight away from overtaking my all time hero Scott Harrison in the scottish boxing hall of fame, & thats BIG praise from me.

Scotty went off the rails just before he got his defining fight against the likes of Marquez, Barrera etc, now Alex Arthur is in the exact same position as Scotty, hes one big name away from being up there with Buchanan, Watt & Lynch...

[The Exile]

Wow a bit harsh on Arthur I reckon. Not going to claim he'll clean up the division but I reckon some of the stuff being said is a bit harsh.

He was fighting a solid opponent who was as dirty as I've seen in a while, and he was a southpaw. Any southpaw can make a performance look scrappy (Hatton/Mausa).

His defence was a bit open sometimes but I think he had felt his power and knew he wouldn't hurt him.

The jury is still out but I think it's too early to say he gets raped at world level.


Well done ARTHUR



Spot on mate :good

The guy he was fighting was well dirty and a difficult guy to look world class against. I personally dont think that Arthur will beat the top guys in the division but for F**ks sake he is hardly getting any credit at all for his win, 2 nasty cuts pretty early yet in my opinion he showed he is a far better fighter than he was a few years back and i think he may surprise some people.

The only thing i really do worry about is the fact he is so open to left hooks, he needs to sort that asap before going against any real top contenders/champs etc

I never used to like the guy much and as a Scot always prefered Harrison but i have to say that he seems much more likeable and humble these days - I honestly think the loss to Gomez has taught him a lot and at the end of the day he has learned from it and moved on.

Too much emphasis is put on unbeaten records these days as many fighters have been beaten and come back better due to the experience of having a loss and knowing what you have to work on imo.

Most hall of famers have more than a couple of losses in their career and most have learned and improved from this.

[Dunky McCafferty]

I never used to like the guy much and as a Scot always prefered Harrison but i have to say that he seems much more likeable and humble these days - I honestly think the loss to Gomez has taught him a lot and at the end of the day he has learned from it and moved on.

Too much emphasis is put on unbeaten records these days as many fighters have been beaten and come back better due to the experience of having a loss and knowing what you have to work on imo.

Most hall of famers have more than a couple of losses in their career and most have learned and improved from this.

Couldnt have said it better myself:good

Arthur has matured as a fighter AND a person, & its great to see. He has finally taken over Scott Harrison as the torch bearer for scottish boxing, & it was great to see Alex Arthur truly come of age last night.

[AllyT]

Congratulations Alex Arthur, he hs finally proved to the world that he deserves his nicknme of 'Amazing':happy

Im glad to see some of the usual suspects are hurting on this thread, & whingeing about how fat Guzman would put Alex in his place:lol:

I have been posting here for years now & have always explained that Alex is a slow starter, but gets stronger as a fight goes on. But the haters are in screaming for crumbs of comfort in that Alex didnt dominate from the first bell:patsch

I hope Guzman fights Arthur, cos Arthur wil do to him what Harrison should have done years ago, retire the big mouth.

Well done amazing Alex Arthur, & IMO hes one defining fight away from overtaking my all time hero Scott Harrison in the scottish boxing hall of fame, & thats BIG praise from me.

Scotty went off the rails just before he got his defining fight against the likes of Marquez, Barrera etc, now Alex Arthur is in the exact same position as Scotty, hes one big name away from being up there with Buchanan, Watt & Lynch...

Spot on Dunky. I do not see Guzman fighting Arthur s he knows Arthur would cabbage him. He is now on th fringe eof greatness, no more than you would expect from an ex Leith Vic lad.:smoke

[The Exile]

Congratulations Alex Arthur, he hs finally proved to the world that he deserves his nicknme of 'Amazing':happy

Im glad to see some of the usual suspects are hurting on this thread, & whingeing about how fat Guzman would put Alex in his place:lol:

I have been posting here for years now & have always explained that Alex is a slow starter, but gets stronger as a fight goes on. But the haters are in screaming for crumbs of comfort in that Alex didnt dominate from the first bell:patsch

I hope Guzman fights Arthur, cos Arthur wil do to him what Harrison should have done years ago, retire the big mouth.

Well done amazing Alex Arthur, & IMO hes one defining fight away from overtaking my all time hero Scott Harrison in the scottish boxing hall of fame, & thats BIG praise from me.

Scotty went off the rails just before he got his defining fight against the likes of Marquez, Barrera etc, now Alex Arthur is in the exact same position as Scotty, hes one big name away from being up there with Buchanan, Watt & Lynch...



Well said Dunky mate. I cant believe the stick Arthur is getting from this fight on the boards, fair enough, he started slow but after he got cut he had a difficult opponent in trouble for a good few rounds and at the end of the day he should be getting full credit for the win.

Put it this way if that was an English guy in there he would be getting praise non stop, and im not anti English for anyone who takes offence at this statement

Like i said in my last post on this thread i always liked Harrison a lot more than Arthur and have had some great nights at the braehead cheering him on - the McCullough fight was an absolute belter, the atmoshere with us and the Paddys made it a great night.

Ive benn a member of ESB Forums for a few years now and have always read your posts with interest as to be honest i thought you were a bit paranoid re: anti scottish bias but im now have to agree that you may have a point mate - Arthur done great tonight coming back from nasty cuts against a dirty fighter who was no bum and eventually giving him a beat down and yet all im seeing is that Arthur is average, shit, bum etc from a lot of posters who really should know better.

There is absolutely no chance of Arthur doing a Harrison imo as he seems like quite a smart guy and whilst i always prefered Scotty i just dont think he was intelligent enough to realise what he had and has now wasted what he could have done, whereas Arthur does come across as a lot smarter guy who wouldnt get messed up in the crap that Scotty has.

[The Exile]

Spot on Dunky. I do not see Guzman fighting Arthur s he knows Arthur would cabbage him. He is now on th fringe eof greatness, no more than you would expect from an ex Leith Vic lad.:smoke



He needs to have Sunshine on Leith as his tune :good


One of the best recent Scottish songs made imo

[Max Molyneux]

Is Guzman really over 12st like they were saying?

[AllyT]

He needs to have Sunshine on Leith as his tune :good


One of the best recent Scottish songs made imo

Thera is a little shop on leirh walk that appears to be devoted to the art of hydroponics. I do not know what the young ones grow via this method but the shop is called "Sunshine on leaf".

[Max Molyneux]

Arthur should play whats that coming over the hill as he's from the highlands and he's a monster!:D

[BigEars]

Is Guzman really over 12st like they were saying?

Probably , I've seen pictures of him being very out of shape before .

[Amsterdam]

Enzo Macaroni gets praised and overhyped for defeating a totally shot fighter, whom he had reach and height on, but Arthur gets slammed for stopping a VERY tough fighter who is extremely hard to look good against, whom was coming down from competing at a higher weight?

What a joke.

Arthur is a class fighter.:good

[The Exile]

To be perfectly honest i think the Guzman fight would be a real tough one for Alex as Guzman can fight and has a good dig on him.

I would reckon Arthur would a good outsider for this match, if it happens, i doubt Guzman will stay at the weight though.

[The Exile]

Enzo Macaroni gets praised and overhyped for defeating a totally shot fighter, whom he had reach and height on, but Arthur gets slammed for stopping a VERY tough fighter who is extremely hard to look good against, whom was coming down from competing at a higher weight?

What a joke.

Arthur is a class fighter.:good


Exactly :good

Dont get me wrong, Braithwaite was Enzo's biggest fight to date but i would love to see the punch stats cause it looked like he barely threw a anything but enjoyed playing the fool with the rubber legs and sticking out his tongue - a little advice mate you win by at least throwing punches !!

Maybe im wrong as i was pretty pissed but i doint remember "bg Truck" doing much 2win

Good win for Enzo though, better than his last fight against the guy from bumfights :yep

[Dunky McCafferty]

Well said Dunky mate. I cant believe the stick Arthur is getting from this fight on the boards, fair enough, he started slow but after he got cut he had a difficult opponent in trouble for a good few rounds and at the end of the day he should be getting full credit for the win.

Put it this way if that was an English guy in there he would be getting praise non stop, and im not anti English for anyone who takes offence at this statement

Like i said in my last post on this thread i always liked Harrison a lot more than Arthur and have had some great nights at the braehead cheering him on - the McCullough fight was an absolute belter, the atmoshere with us and the Paddys made it a great night.

Ive benn a member of ESB Forums for a few years now and have always read your posts with interest as to be honest i thought you were a bit paranoid re: anti scottish bias but im now have to agree that you may have a point mate - Arthur done great tonight coming back from nasty cuts against a dirty fighter who was no bum and eventually giving him a beat down and yet all im seeing is that Arthur is average, shit, bum etc from a lot of posters who really should know better.

There is absolutely no chance of Arthur doing a Harrison imo as he seems like quite a smart guy and whilst i always prefered Scotty i just dont think he was intelligent enough to realise what he had and has now wasted what he could have done, whereas Arthur does come across as a lot smarter guy who wouldnt get messed up in the crap that Scotty has.

Thanks for the honest post Exile my good man. I could go on about this subject for ages, but as I have made a few english friends on here I have forced myself to clam down with the 'inyourfaceness':D However, all along I have tried to wake people up to the fact us jocks arent classed as true UKers like the english & welsh. In other words, the vast majority of 'em want us beat!

I had to laugh to myself when I seen this thread, cos despite Scotty harrison & Alex Arthur being completely different styles of fighters with completely differing personalities, I seen the same old drivel being written about Arthurs win tonight as was written anytime Scotty won. "I wasnt impressed, he was being outboxed by a bum" blah blah. Its what happens in the main when scottish fighters fight sadly enough, & it gives me no pleasure whatsoever to be proven right. I would much rather the english & welsh loved us like they love each other, but it aint to be.

As for Scotty & Alex, isnt it strange how their careers have turned out? Scotty was the seriously single minded driven young man whilst Arthur was the big mouthed young star who thought too much of himself, but its went full circle. Harrison turned into the star who thought he was all that & got into trouble & lost his career, whilst Arthur knuckled down & became the man Harrison was in his young days, single minded, driven & determined...

Kinda spooky as they were so close at one point.

[The Exile]

As for Scotty & Alex, isnt it strange how their careers have turned out? Scotty was the seriously single minded driven young man whilst Arthur was the big mouthed young star who thought too much of himself, but its went full circle. Harrison turned into the star who thought he was all that & got into trouble & lost his career, whilst Arthur knuckled down & became the man Harrison was in his young days, single minded, driven & determined...

Kinda spooky as they were so close at one point.



I actually cant get over the transformation in Arthur, he was so cocky, big headed etc and i hated the circumstance's in which he left Harrison's camp and honestly thought they would get it on in the ring someday.

Now i look at Harrisons prediciment and despite being a long time fan i cant help getting pissed off at what he has threw away.

Like i mentioned earlier Arthur, since losing to Gomez has improved both in the ring and outside and i have to say he seems to have matured alot as a person.

[Dunky McCafferty]

I actually cant get over the transformation in Arthur, he was so cocky, big headed etc and i hated the circumstance's in which he left Harrison's camp and honestly thought they would get it on in the ring someday.

Now i look at Harrisons prediciment and despite being a long time fan i cant help getting pissed off at what he has threw away.

Like i mentioned earlier Arthur, since losing to Gomez has improved both in the ring and outside and i have to say he seems to have matured alot as a person.

& before I go exile, heres my favourite saying...

Just because you are paranoid, it doesnt mean the bastards arent out to get you:deal

[rooq]

congrats to AAA. i see what some posters are saying about the first few rounds, but arthur fought a good fight, losing those rounds but starting the process of wearing kobo down, before dominating the latter half of the fight.

i don't see what the problem is with that...does a fighter have to clearly win every round to be considered world class? kobo was not a journeyman..he may have been past his best, but was someone who had mixed with good fighters and i think this was a very good win for arthur. i hope he does get to face guzman who he has a very good chance of beating and will give him some rep stateside.

[ApatheticLeader]

I heard somewhere that if Guzman does move up in weight then AA has to fight Jorge Barrios within 180 days. That fight will be fun!

How would you guys see that fight going?

[BigEars]

I heard somewhere that if Guzman does move up in weight then AA has to fight Jorge Barrios within 180 days. That fight will be fun!

How would you guys see that fight going?

That would be a great fight but isn't Barrios fighting Juan Manuel Marquez ?

[Vantage_West]

hey he is a WORLD champion now:Dyea how long is it till alex is champion? like a month or so aint it

[Beatboxer]

Congratulations AAA !

ive not seen the fight yet as i was at work but hopefully this paves the way for a voluntary defence once he gets made WBO champ proper against Gomez at Edinburgh Castle...the first fight was a barnstormer and if AAA did the job then that would be one monkey off his back...

AAA is a top class operator...whether he is elite time will only tell...i do not think he would get raped at that level though...would be nice if he found time to knock out Khan also

[BigEars]

Congratulations AAA !

ive not seen the fight yet as i was at work but hopefully this paves the way for a voluntary defence once he gets made WBO champ proper against Gomez at Edinburgh Castle...the first fight was a barnstormer and if AAA did the job then that would be one monkey off his back...

AAA is a top class operator...whether he is elite time will only tell...i do not think he would get raped at that level though...would be nice if he found time to knock out Khan also

I think it makes much more sense to go and take Fana's IBF title rather than get revenge on Gomez . Gomez should have to prove he has something left before he can get a rematch .

[Club Fighter]

What's the big deal, isn't getting raped on world level pretty much the calling card of all Euro fighters?

[Strike]

What's the big deal, isn't getting raped on world level pretty much the calling card of all Euro fighters?

Change the record mate, it was banal and boring the first time, At the 643rd time it as amusing as testicular cancer.

[scurlaruntings]

seems a decent enough geezer, but guzman would tear him a new one.Gomez already did that.The problem with Arthur is he believes his own hype.He has lofty goals and asperations and is certainly on the fringes of world class but his just not one of the top guys at his weight no matter what he thinks.He has power and a decent chin but thats it.His chin is in the air and his quite easy to hit and has been fed a steady diet of half way men.His biggest bout to date is.. erm.. there isnt one!:bart

[AllyT]

What's the big deal, isn't getting raped on world level pretty much the calling card of all Euro fighters?

Bon appetite !

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