DLH is an awful promoter compared to..

[Ambition_Def]

Goosen, Don King and Bob Arum.

He studders at pressers and half the time doesn't even know what he is saying.

After seeing Dan Goosen promote the Margarito-Williams fight it is amazingly bad watching DLH promote Hopkins-Wright.

[Jose FM]

the way he talks makes him a bad promotor? Or are you saying hes a bad communicator? I dont see how one has to do with the other. Moreover, so far his company has made some of the biggest fights in boxing over the last couple of years, so your claim has no merit whatsoever.

[Zakman]

What nonsense. ANYONE is better than that corrupt scumbag King, who is nothing more than a PARASITE who has spent 30 years ripping off the guys who actually put their lives on the line for this sport, the fighters. Oscar and his partners are a breath of fresh air compared to that.

[Amsterdam]

What nonsense. ANYONE is better than that corrupt scumbag King, who is nothing more than a PARASITE who has spent 30 years ripping off the guys who actually put their lives on the line for this sport, the fighters. Oscar and his partners are a breath of fresh air compared to that.

GBP are greedy like most others, but AT LEAST they make some of the better matches happen and AT LEAST they have strict policy when it comes to treating their roster fairly, which includes pension after they retire...

[Bazooka]

Exactly he is such a bad Promoter explain how the hell he is out doing the rest of them?

[compukiller]

Goosen, Don King and Bob Arum.

He studders at pressers and half the time doesn't even know what he is saying.

After seeing Dan Goosen promote the Margarito-Williams fight it is amazingly bad watching DLH promote Hopkins-Wright.

Maybe if Margo was with GBP, he wouldn't gotten into some bigger fights sooner in his career, instead of fighting no names on regional PPV and ESPN. :deal

[tays001]

gbp is pretty good at least the burried the hatchet with top rank for now

[DoumB]

wow, could not be more wrong then that

[Ambition_Def]

Exactly he is such a bad Promoter explain how the hell he is out doing the rest of them?

He is doing better because he soaked mass amounts of cash into brand name, soon-to-be retired boxers.

Just how many prospects are under the banner of GBP? The man took finished products and made do with them. A brain-dead moron could pull that off.

And besides that half of what goes into a promotion is communication. If you (Jose FM) are telling me a promoter doesn't have to know how to speak then you must also be telling me a car salesman can also be a studdering fool. That is crazy talk.

Yes he has done well. Again though he hasn't been working with new boxers or prospects. Just proven commodities. King, Arum and Goosen are far superior in every way.

And Zak, I know you are a DKP hater, that is cool. But don't try and say he ruined boxing over the past 3 decades when he was single-handidly responsible for the majority of heavyweight title unifications during that period.

Just look at how Goosen last 2 weeks promoted Margarito-Williams. Then watch this lost for words buffoon covering Hopkins-Wright. It should be no wonder why these two brand name boxers will do average PPV numbers.

[geppy]

In De La Hoya's defense , this is a hard fight to promote. Hopkins is in his 40's and although very impressive in his last fight, it was equally boring. Wright is a fighter known for his strong technical style and boring fights. I cant even recall the last time Wright had a Ko, it most of been years.

[Ambition_Def]

In De La Hoya's defense , this is a hard fight to promote. Hopkins is in his 40's and although very impressive in his last fight, it was equally boring. Wright is a fighter known for his strong technical style and boring fights. I cant even recall the last time Wright had a Ko, it most of been years.

No excuse. This is part of promotion (knowing what styles make for exciting fights).

This only proves how limited DLH is as far as promoter intelligence. He only knows how to take brand name boxers and put them together. That is essentially all he has done since being a promoter. He doesn't deal with prospects or unknowns, not like the other big three.

And also to note some other replies on this thread: Sure DLH is a big name, but who made him a big name? Or have you all so suddenly forgotten how Arum stacked him with overmatched, undersized opponents to guarantee victory on his way to the top? Arum made DLH what he is more than anyone here actually knows.

I am in no way a DLH hater. But I see the light. I enjoyed watching him as a fighter, but this promoter thing I think is over his head. Time will tell once he is struggling to find brand names to work with.

[geppy]

No excuse. This is part of promotion (knowing what styles make for exciting fights).

This only proves how limited DLH is as far as promoter intelligence. He only knows how to take brand name boxers and put them together. That is essentially all he has done since being a promoter. He doesn't deal with prospects or unknowns, not like the other big three.

And also to note some other replies on this thread: Sure DLH is a big name, but who made him a big name? Or have you all so suddenly forgotten how Arum stacked him with overmatched, undersized opponents to guarantee victory on his way to the top? Arum made DLH what he is more than anyone here actually knows.

I am in no way a DLH hater. But I see the light. I enjoyed watching him as a fighter, but this promoter thing I think is over his head. Time will tell once he is struggling to find brand names to work with.

Promoting this fight is like being a used car salesman trying to sell someone a junk car , by convincing them it is great. It is not an easy thing to do! I will admit I am wrong , if the fight is turns out exciting, but giving these two's fighting styles I expect one long boring fight.

[Ambition_Def]

Oscars a bad promoter? Thats why De La Hoya-Mayweather, which was guranteed to be semi-boring, broke almost every ppv record?

You have it wrong, obviously

The mark of a good promoter is how well he can promote a fight WITHOUT brand names.

[Ambition_Def]

not so, the bottom line comes down to money and he is bringing it in. In the end that is the measurement like it or not.

And I suppose Arum and Don King are penniless?

This statement of yours really has no basis in this discussion. They ALL make money. :patsch

Again, an idiot can take brand names, put them together on PPV and make money. That is nothing. It sells itself.

[Ambition_Def]

say what you want you made a statement on what makes a good promoter and like i said the one that brings in the most money is often the one, if you were a fighter, you would want promoting your fight. Unfortunately it has come down to money more often than not and thats gonna be tough one to argue with me on.

Who does DLH promote? You ask me if I were a fighter. Tell me if I was a new prospect with relatively unknown market value would GBP promote me?

Never. His whole goal from the onset was to grab up proven sellers and drop them on PPV.

How many HBO telecasts has he promoted? How many compared to Arum? How many compared to DKP's showtime broadcasts?

He made a gross amount of cash being promoted by Bob Arum, and then jumped in with his fat wallet, bought up proven sellers and put them on PPV. That takes no skill or know-how.

[Ambition_Def]

what im saying is if you were a fighter and promoter A is gonna get you 5 mil for a fight and promoter B is gonna get you 8 mil who you gonna take regardless of the other stuff. B right, it comes down to money, most of the time. I doubt you will say, im gonna go with promoter A because he does not need brand recognition to promote.

What the hell are you talking about?

I'm not even talking about who offers you the most money. Usually the people who do that are shitty promoters who undercut the undercard to balance out the cost. That is yet another mark of a bad promoter. And this viewpoint isn't coming from a fighter, but a boxing fan. People like to see stacked cards with good matchups. Not 2-3 boring contests that were scrapped together for peanuts before the main event.

What I'm talking about is the sheer ability that goes into putting on good shows. DLH has had decent cards not because he knows how to put on a good show but because he's done what anyone with half a brain and a huge wallet could do.

Just on a speaking level. Watch the pressers for Arum shows, Goosen-Tutor shows, DKP shows. Those guys know how to promote fights. No bullshit there.

[thunder06]

GBP is probably the best promotion company in terms of making good fights and how they treat their fighters. Plus, Oscar is the president and even non-boxing fans know who he is and his image is so good that people love him no matter what he does. It works well.

[Ambition_Def]

What the hell am i talking about you say. My premise is very simple i dont see whats so hard to understand. You contradict yourself, you say gbp and oscar are bad in the promotion arena then go on to say DLH has had decent cards. So what the hell are you talking about?

It's clearly over your head. End of discussion.

[Dostoevsky]

Who gives a shit how he speaks in public, the important part is that he's putting together fights that we want to see unlike those fucking piece of shit scumbags Don King and Bob Arum. fuck dan goosen too.....hes a fucking cockslobbering scumbag as well!!!!!!!

Vive la Oscar!!!!!
hes the saviour! imagine if GBP didn't come along......imagine the shit fights we would have to see, he is one of the best tjings to happen in boxing in a long time.....that sounded homo but no joke........his promotions have done a world of good for the sport.

[SweetScienceFan]

He promoted the highest grossing fight in the history of boxing. I would say that he stands by himself above the other promoters. He is above the redundant comments that the likes of Arum and King make at every press conference. He puts shows like 24/7 together, and sells the fight by aggressive promotion.

[Jason997]

Great card tonight! Hard to be critical of GBP after these last 2 fights.

- Jason

[Morrissey]

Dela Hoya disappointed in his PPV with PBF with his shitty undercards.

[Carlos Primera]

GBP are greedy like most others, but AT LEAST they make some of the better matches happen and AT LEAST they have strict policy when it comes to treating their roster fairly, which includes pension after they retire..
man if only there was some government incentive for plans like that then a lot of retired fighters like iran barkley, michael spinks etc... probably would'nt be falling on hard times.

[geppy]

Ask anyone who justed pay 50.00 $ to watch Hopkins run, hold , head butt , and Wright play peek a boo behind his gloves and slap, what they think of De La Hoya as a promoter?

[YOUNG*LORD]

Oscars a bad promoter? Thats why De La Hoya-Mayweather, which was guranteed to be semi-boring, broke almost every ppv record?a retard could have done the same...for God sakes DLH was fighting one of the most hated and most talented boxers today....that spells money nomatter what. Btw..dlh has lost one of his top fighters because he felt gbp wasn't doing enough. Bob Arum puts DLH to shame...Cotto and Pac-man are where they at by a combination of talent and great promoting.:deal

[Ambition_Def]

a retard could have done the same...for God sakes DLH was fighting one of the most hated and most talented boxers today....that spells money nomatter what. Btw..dlh has lost one of his top fighters because he felt gbp wasn't doing enough. Bob Arum puts DLH to shame...Cotto and Pac-man are where they at by a combination of talent and great promoting.:deal

Good grief it's about time there was some objectivity in this thread. :lol: Those damn Oscarsexuals were running amok!

And Carlos ya you seem to get it man. Bob Arum made these guys what they are. He made DLH too.

A good promoter understands careful, but exciting matchmaking for prospects. Arum has done a fantastic job with Miguel Cotto. No doubt about it.

And Don King did good by Felix Trinidad as well.

[Max Molyneux]

GBP are greedy like most others, but AT LEAST they make some of the better matches happen and AT LEAST they have strict policy when it comes to treating their roster fairly, which includes pension after they retire...

I noticed the matchups have only happened when they have signed both fighters though most of the time.