The Khan v Gomez apathy on ESB tells its own story...

[Dunky McCafferty]

Two days before the 'big' fight on ITV, & lets be honest here, no-one could give a shit cos its got mismatch written all over it. Everyone knows in their hearts Gomez is only turning up for the payday. & quite right too. Gomez must feel that all his christmases have come at once.

& how ****** must be fuming. When he made this fight ****** was probably imagining Gomez doing his usual stuff, sticking his head into Khans face & thick joe public going crazy wanting to see Khan fight the mad manc who fears nothing etc etc... whilst knowing Khan will win without breaking sweat.

What has happened though? Gomez has disappeared, & its been left to Khan to do all the trash talking, whilst Gomez hides in a dark corner waiting to turn up on the night to take a few punches, take a knee & be counted out early & walk away from the sport with a nice fat final cheque!
Its been an awful build up & no-wonder Frank is raging, he expected a shot Gomez to sell this fight as if it was going to be the mother of all battles, but Gomez has simply bottled even being in Khans presence & this fight which will be a disaster in the ring has now turned into a disaster outside of it too:lol:

Serves them right for making this joke of a fight. Khan to win inside two rounds.
I see some are putting money on Gomez to win, dont be silly. Its the mother of all mismatches. You have been warned.

[altitudetrainin]

It is a mismatch but glass chinned Khan has took a knee against other jounrneymen before so at anytime he can be upset. Id on't see him and Frank fooling Joe Public for much longer. After these Olympics people will get bored and he will have to step up. I think he will get beaten up at the hgihest level. Maybe Frank will protect him tuntil he is 36, when he wins controversially against some former great that had been avoided for 10 years, with Khan's trainer telling him he needs a KO to win fight before 12th. After that, Frank's pundits hail him the best British fighter ever!

Only in the UK, baby.

[Claypole]

I doubt whether Gomez has "bottled" being in Khan's presence, if I remember rightly, David Haye never showed for a press conference with Enzo Macc.
If not showing has got under FW and Amir Khan's skin, then all the better for Gomez. Perhaps he's busy training.
I know there has not been a lot of interest in this fight, and I do agree it appears to be a mismatch, but to be honest I think people are simply getting bored of Amir. The Limond fight was exciting, but since then it's been clear that risk taking and decent matchups are not on the agenda. Even the armchair fans and blokes down the pub are finally seeing sense.

[D-MAC]

Looks a total mismatch on paper; Khan is too big, fast and powerful. Chin is a question fo Khan, although Gomez is another of these blown-up SFW's and also appears to be shot; can't see him landing enough on Khan to take him out.

Here's hoping Gomez pulls it off.....but I doubt it.

[Fat Joe]

Interesting that the poster on here who gives Gomez a chance (in fact I think he sees him as the favourite) is ex-pro Jeff Thomas.

[Grant1]

I have it on VERY good authority that Gomez is training to win this.

He's taking it very seriously.

Dont know how much difference it'll make though.

[gutto]

Finger crossed Gomez knocks Khan as flat as a pancake :good

[DamonD]

Just so long as those backing Gomez to win will be giving Khan praise if he wins instead... ;)

[brown bomber]

Interesting that the poster on here who gives Gomez a chance (in fact I think he sees him as the favourite) is ex-pro Jeff Thomas. I accept Khan is the favourite.... But those who think Gomez has bottled it will be in for a big suprise. Gomez fights with his heart.. He's not going to be embarrased come sunday morning put it that way. Plus its his birthday saturday. Maybe he'll blow out Khan insted of his candles. lol

[Smith]

I have it on VERY good authority that Gomez is training to win this.

He's taking it very seriously.

Dont know how much difference it'll make though.If any fighter trains not to win you should retire. Simple as.

Thats a given.

[brown bomber]

Just so long as those backing Gomez to win will be giving Khan praise if he wins instead... ;) If Khan emphatically stops Gomez I will give him some credit.

[gutto]

Just so long as those backing Gomez to win will be giving Khan praise if he wins instead... ;)

I dont have a problem with khan I just like Gomez. To be fair to Khan he can only beat who they put in front of him. I see Khan doing a hatton and leaving once his contact is up. I think he thinks he is ready to move up a class but if gomez turns up keen and not just looking for a payday he could be a real good test for khan.

[bratwurzt]

It's hard to think the Olympics was 4 years ago now and Khan has still fought nobody.

[Cobbler]

Interesting that the poster on here who gives Gomez a chance (in fact I think he sees him as the favourite) is ex-pro Jeff Thomas.

Can't work out whether your point is that Jeff has a different perspective being an ex-pro and maybe sees something we dont, or that he has taken more blows to the head than the rest of us so maybe that's affecting his judgement! :tong

[brown bomber]

Can't work out whether your point is that Jeff has a different perspective being an ex-pro and maybe sees something we dont, or that he has taken more blows to the head than the rest of us so maybe that's affecting his judgement! :tong Lol... prob a bit of both... :yep

[Grant1]

If any fighter trains not to win you should retire. Simple as.

Thats a given.

It's not as much of a given as you may think.

[maka]

haye ducked a press conference and look what happened to enzo


who knows, gomez could be in the shape of his life, and therefore staying away from the public eye, so that he can spring an upset.

[brown bomber]

Gomez is in incredible shape... From the horses mouth...

[gutto]

Go Gomez :happy

[brown bomber]

Reason for Gomez non-attendance.... Sports Network changed the date for the final press conference late tuesday night..... lol lol lol..... The final press conference is always on a thursday with the weigh in on the friday..... Why would they change the date, they had booked the hotel for Thurs night and everything.... Maybe someones a bit nervous.

Khan also recieved some news he probably didn't want to hear....

This is so funny feel like a school kid stirring trouble.

Talking to Gomez a bit later hopefully so i'll give you guys some more info..... The biggest shocker is out of the bag I think but want to check before I say anything.

[brown bomber]

so is Gomez is being trained by Oliver Harrison ?Better then that. :rofl

[bratwurzt]

Shit Jeff, I'm off to college soon, give us a clue.

[Beeston Brawler]

God knows what this may be........

The fight has been changed to a WBO intercontintal title fight?

Khan is struggling to make 135?

Khan has signed a deal with Hennessy Sports?

Khan has had the nerve to negotiate his own television deal?

Im on the edge of my seat here.......

Not lol.

[brown bomber]

Lol.... I got in trouble last time I started spilling the beans so I check what I can and can't say. I'll let you know later.

[dwilson]

Gomez in under 5 rounds. Pure destruction.

[brown bomber]

Gomez in under 5 rounds. Pure destruction.:lol: Why do you think they re-arranged the final press conference late notice?

[brown bomber]

Amir Khan branded Michael Gomez an "idiot" and accused him of running scared
after the Manchester fighter failed to show up for a press conference ahead of
Saturday's Commonwealth title fight in Birmingham.

Khan said he had hoped to share the platform with Gomez, who has a history of
confrontational behaviour in head-to-head press conferences and had claimed he
intended to get under the Bolton man's skin.

Khan said: "He's scared. I was looking forward to seeing him and he's not
turned up but his stupid games don't bother me.


Old big head: Amir Khan with a picture of Michael Gomez

"You know what an idiot Michael Gomez can be. I'll let my fists do the talking
on Saturday night."

Promoter Frank ******, who announced a 10,000 sell-out at the National Indoor
Arena for the return of big-time boxing to the city, accused Gomez of showing a
lack of respect.

****** said: "It's very disappointing. We had a message saying he was coming
and then he changed his mind.

"It's not about selling tickets. It's about showing respect to the media and
your opponent."

Khan insists he is in the shape of his life for his clash with the former
British super-featherweight champion, whose patchy form in recent years has not
convinced his new team to take the fight lightly.

Khan's new trainer Dean Powell said Gomez's stunning 2003 knockout win over
previously unbeaten Alex Arthur proved the Manchester man has what it takes to
triumph against the odds.

Powell said: "Gomez is going to bring a special kind of intensity to the
fight. We all know how Michael Gomez likes to fight and we are fully prepared
for what he's going to bring.

"Amir certainly doesn't need to get involved in World War Three with Gomez.
But Gomez is going to have a big shock if he thinks he can shove Amir around the
way he shoved Alex Arthur around."

[brown bomber]

They think sparring Jon Fewkes and Denton Vassell is going to replicate the experiance and pressure Gomez brings?

[dwilson]

They think sparring Jon Fewkes and Denton Vassell is going to replicate the experiance and pressure Gomez brings?





Jeez I nearly pissed myself when I saw Khan's sparring partners. I really like Fewkes and think he is an hot prospect and possibly a future European title candidate but no way is he suited to bring the style of Gomez. Fucking madness.

[Grant1]

Lol.... I got in trouble last time I started spilling the beans so I check what I can and can't say. I'll let you know later.

C'mon Jeff - gis a clue !!

[maka]

dont get into bother jeff, just pm ME lol :good

[toffeejack]

They think sparring Jon Fewkes and Denton Vassell is going to replicate the experiance and pressure Gomez brings?

You honestly believe Gomez has enough left to pull the upset?

I hope you're right I'd love to see a repeat of the Arthur fight.

[bratwurzt]

The difference being that Arthur took a lot of shots that I don't think Khan could.

[draw99]

Maybe Frank will protect him tuntil he is 36, when he wins controversially against some former great that had been avoided for 10 years, with Khan's trainer telling him he needs a KO to win fight before 12th. After that, Frank's pundits hail him the best British fighter ever!

Only in the UK, baby.

:lol: too right!

[Fat Joe]

Khan is looking past Gomez.

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[GazOC]

Khan via blowout. I don't care how hard Gomez is training he doesn't have the tools anymore.

[Beeston Brawler]

Hopefully it will be another Sports Network fighter staggering around the ring in the second, but I can't see it really.

If Gomez was troubled by someone as slow as Johanneson (and KTFO) I think Khan's speed will be too much in the end - but it won't be without drama, with Amir being forced to fight inside for the first time in his life.

[brown bomber]

Khan cannot infight.... Oliver Harrison trains Jamie Moore ffs and still Khan get his head round standing in front of someone gloves high. Khan will not be able to engage Gomez in a toe to toe brawl... if he does... Ko.

[GazOC]

Kahn doesn't have to go toe to toe until he wants to.

BTW has anyone seen the TV schedule? No undercard on any ITV channel and 45mins for the main event on ITV.

[Grant1]

Khan cannot infight.... Oliver Harrison trains Jamie Moore ffs and still Khan get his head round standing in front of someone gloves high. Khan will not be able to engage Gomez in a toe to toe brawl... if he does... Ko.

Any news ?

[dwilson]

This fight is so 50/50. I can not believe ****** has chucked Khan in with a guy like Gomez so early in his career.

[elle]

I agree with the thread starter in that this looks like a mismatch unfortunately.

In many ways Gomez is made for Khan. Khan is much younger, fresher, faster and taller. He also has the added advantage of being big at Lightweight whilst Gomez usually operates at a weight below.

Realistically I just can't see Gomez doing an "Alex Arthur" on Khan at this stage in his career. It was some five years ago - that was then and this is now.

I hope Gomez at least comes well prepared and in the right frame of mind to make the fight reasonably competitive in the early stages.

[GazOC]

This fight is so 50/50. I can not believe ****** has chucked Khan in with a guy like Gomez so early in his career.

:lol::good

[bratwurzt]

This fight is so 50/50. I can not believe ****** has chucked Khan in with a guy like Gomez so early in his career.

:lol::lol:

[brown bomber]

Wilson- lol tw@

[Bodysnatcher]

Kahn doesn't have to go toe to toe until he wants to.

BTW has anyone seen the TV schedule? No undercard on any ITV channel and 45mins for the main event on ITV.

There's no build up on ITV4?

edit: Nope, just checked, you're right. What a load of shit, I wanted to see the Paul Smith fight.

Possible that this is an omen for ITV pulling out of boxing, seeing as Khan's ITV contract is up?

[Claypole]

If any fighter trains not to win you should retire. It didn't stop Gary Lockett.

[elle]

BTW has anyone seen the TV schedule? No undercard on any ITV channel and 45mins for the main event on ITV.


TV schedule seems to be full of Euro 2008 matches! :-(

The listings I've seen for Saturday have Khan v Gomez coverage on ITV1 from 10.15pm to 11.30pm.

[KCD]

I really want Gomez to win and i have spent the last two weeks convincing myself that he will. But at the end of the fight i have a feeling......no i know Khan is going to have his hand raised.

[elle]

so is Gomez is being trained by Oliver Harrison ?


According to the BBC Sport website Khan has criticised former trainer Oliver Harrison following the revelation that he has apparently been helping to prepare Gomez for this fight!

[KCD]

According to the BBC Sport website Khan has criticised former trainer Oliver Harrison following the revelation that he has apparently been helping to prepare Gomez for this fight!


The way Khan and his "team" treated Harrison they have no room to criticise anyone.

[brown bomber]

According to the BBC Sport website Khan has criticised former trainer Oliver Harrison following the revelation that he has apparently been helping to prepare Gomez for this fight!:think If true I wonder what he could have told Gomez?..... I wouldn't be suprised if Khan tries to pull out. :fire

[brown bomber]

The way Khan and his "team" treated Harrison they have no room to criticise anyone.:good

[ishy]

:good

Nice avatar Jeff :D

[robpalmer135]

i think harrison is bang out of order. all you guys slagging of khan for having no defense our the same ones back harrison. Khan has not developed as well as he could since he turned pro.

[elle]

:think If true I wonder what he could have told Gomez? ..... I wouldn't be suprised if Khan tries to pull out. :fire


You tell us since you claim to have the "inside" track! :yep

[ishy]

i think harrison is bang out of order. all you guys slagging of khan for having no defense our the same ones back harrison. Khan has not developed as well as he could since he turned pro.

That may be true, but the manner in which Team Khan got rid of Harrison was very unprofessional. Oliver certainly didn't deserve to be treated like that so Khan has no right to complain.

[kurt2006]

i think harrison is bang out of order. all you guys slagging of khan for having no defense our the same ones back harrison. Khan has not developed as well as he could since he turned pro.

Why stay with Oli for 17 odd fights then ? He could see the way he was going after a few fights. Did it never come to team khans attention that his defence was shit ?

His stamina has come a long way but that is about it. Team khan are said to have had talks with Buddy McGirt, have they seen what BM has done to nearly every fighter he has taken under his wings ? Adamek, Hofman, Chambers, Litzau and Tarver. He makes them shit yet team khan think he is going to teach khan some tricks :lol:

[brown bomber]

i think harrison is bang out of order. all you guys slagging of khan for having no defense our the same ones back harrison. Khan has not developed as well as he could since he turned pro. If its true I think its spot on... lol.... I could go into the real reasons why they split but I think Khans doing a cracking job of creating negative publicity himself.

Let me add... I like Khan, i've met him a couple of times. He's an immense talent and if he was fighting anyone else I'd want him to do well. But I respect Oliver and count Gomez as one of my friends so for me for the first time I feel a little dismay towards Khan.

I remember Khan when he was a little tiny asian kid who used to stand at the back of the halls watching the shows. I cheered him on through the Olympics, in the ABA's and against Graham Earl but then the promised step up never came.

All these empty promise from SN make me massively frustrated and i've gone from been a fan, to been disappointed, to now cheering for the other guy.

The things that piss me off....

-Since Limmond he has been matched 90-10 (Earl aside)

-His opponents have generally been no-marks

-He avoided Romanov and Thaxton after calling them out.

-His (teams) shocking treatment of Harrison which I know the truth about.

-A minority of his fans are just as racist as the BNP which I find off putting.

-He called Gomez an idiot... which I find disrespectful.

-He's calling out manny Pacman but avoiding Yuri Romanov???

Its easy to call out the big names while fighting lower ranked fighters knowing that the match will never be made.

These are just some of the reasons why I find myself no longer a major fan.

[ishy]

If its true I think its spot on... lol.... I could go into the real reasons why they split but I think Khans doing a cracking job of creating negative publicity himself.

Let me add... I like Khan, i've met him a couple of times. He's an immense talent and if he was fighting anyone else I'd want him to do well. But I respect Oliver and count Gomez as one of my friends so for me for the first time I feel a little dismay towards Khan.

I remember Khan when he was a little tiny asian kid who used to stand at the back of the halls watching the shows. I cheered him on through the Olympics, in the ABA's and against Graham Earl but then the promised step up never came.

All these empty promise from SN make me massively frustrated and i've gone from been a fan, to been disappointed, to now cheering for the other guy.

The things that piss me off....

-Since Limmond he has been matched 90-10 (Earl aside)

-His opponents have generally been no-marks

-He avoided Romanov and Thaxton after calling them out.

-His (teams) shocking treatment of Harrison which I know the truth about.

-A minority of his fans are just as racist as the BNP which I find off putting.

-He called Gomez an idiot... which I find disrespectful.

-He's calling out manny Pacman but avoiding Yuri Romanov???

Its easy to call out the big names while fighting lower ranked fighters knowing that the match will never be made.

These are just some of the reasons why I find myself no longer a major fan.

Jeff, could you not tell us the truth about the Harrison split up and what really happened?

[KCD]

Another thing that grated me was Khan calling Gomez an idiot.

Yes Gomez does come across that way sometimes, but he seems to me like a passionate person in the way he vents his feelings.

And also you dont see Gomez getting arested every two seconds for driving....thats being an idiot/tit.

[kurt2006]

I remember Khan when he was a little tiny asian kid who used to stand at the back of the halls watching the shows.

-A minority of his fans are just as racist as the BNP which I find off putting.

-He called Gomez an idiot... which I find disrespectful.

-He's calling out manny Pacman but avoiding Yuri Romanov???

Its easy to call out the big names while fighting lower ranked fighters knowing that the match will never be made.

These are just some of the reasons why I find myself no longer a major fan.

His still only a tiny asian kid :lol:

Yes some of them are racist but you we can ignore that as Khan is a positive role model for them.

Romanov is nothing compared to the Pacman. Why go with second best when you can call out the big bollocks.

I can imagine him fighting Pacman now, he would be bricking his pants and run around the ring for 12 rounds then after the fight claimed he showed he was a true champion as he went 12 with Pacman ...who is p4p # 1.

[kep]

If its true I think its spot on... lol.... I could go into the real reasons why they split but I think Khans doing a cracking job of creating negative publicity himself.

Let me add... I like Khan, i've met him a couple of times. He's an immense talent and if he was fighting anyone else I'd want him to do well. But I respect Oliver and count Gomez as one of my friends so for me for the first time I feel a little dismay towards Khan.

I remember Khan when he was a little tiny asian kid who used to stand at the back of the halls watching the shows. I cheered him on through the Olympics, in the ABA's and against Graham Earl but then the promised step up never came.

All these empty promise from SN make me massively frustrated and i've gone from been a fan, to been disappointed, to now cheering for the other guy.

The things that piss me off....

-Since Limmond he has been matched 90-10 (Earl aside)

-His opponents have generally been no-marks

-He avoided Romanov and Thaxton after calling them out.

-His (teams) shocking treatment of Harrison which I know the truth about.

-A minority of his fans are just as racist as the BNP which I find off putting.

-He called Gomez an idiot... which I find disrespectful.

-He's calling out manny Pacman but avoiding Yuri Romanov???

Its easy to call out the big names while fighting lower ranked fighters knowing that the match will never be made.

These are just some of the reasons why I find myself no longer a major fan.good call jeffery:good

[kurt2006]

And also you dont see Gomez getting arested every two seconds for driving....thats being an idiot/tit.

I also doubt Gomez drives round town in a fancy car every friday/saturday evening like a punter scared to pick up a pro. He must be a real sad cunt if that is the best thing he can do with his time.

Only 1 tit in the ring on saturday and thats Mr Khan.

[KCD]

I also doubt Gomez drives round town in a fancy car every friday/saturday evening like a punter scared to pick up a pro. He must be a real sad cunt if that is the best thing he can do with his time.

Only 1 tit in the ring on saturday and thats Mr Khan.


Thats so true. Im from Bolton and EVERY friday and saturday night he is out with his 'boys' driving in his 17inch Amir Khans and they are all dressed up like an ultra homosexual boyband:-(

Ive lost count of the number of times when a bottle has been thrown at his car.

[kurt2006]

Thats so true. Im from Bolton and EVERY friday and saturday night he is out with his 'boys' driving in his 17inch Amir Khans and they are all dressed up like an ultra homosexual boyband:-(


:lol:

You mean they dress like this ?

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[dan-b]

Thats so true. Im from Bolton and EVERY friday and saturday night he is out with his 'boys' driving in his 17inch Amir Khans and they are all dressed up like an ultra homosexual boyband:-(

Ive lost count of the number of times when a bottle has been thrown at his car.

What a wanker.:lol:

[seconds out]

So come on Jeff what the f**k is the iside info on gomez please??

[brown bomber]

in his 17inch Amir Khans lol Its giot 17inch Amir Khans, uv lights....

[John18]

c'mon Jeff, spill the beans man.

[steelem]

glad im not going to see khan - i hear they wont be selling hot dogs / burgers but going for tikka in a nan

[robpalmer135]

glad im not going to see khan - i hear they wont be selling hot dogs / burgers but going for tikka in a nan

I find that comment really offensive.

[robpalmer135]

It is a bit poor, makes us all sound like yokels.

i just dont get how he thinks anyone would find it funny, let alone not be really annoyed about it,

moderaters should do something about it. im making a complaint. i thought that kind of thing had died down on here recently, but maybe its just cos khan hasnt been fighting

[Strike]

i just dont get how he thinks anyone would find it funny, let alone not be really annoyed about it,

moderaters should do something about it. im making a complaint. i thought that kind of thing had died down on here recently, but maybe its just cos khan hasnt been fighting

It is juvenile and stupid but really how offensive is it? Do most Asians eat curry and Asian food? Yes. As do most white Brits too. Do most Muslims eat sausages or hot dogs? No.

If it was a French fighter coming over and someone said a crap joke about frogs legs and garlic it would not be seen as a big deal.

Don't get me wrong, I can see that the racial element adds more than a jokey xenephobic thing like anti French jibes, but it is hardly the most vitriolic of slurs is it?

[SleazeNation]

But in a nan though, that's heavy.

[IronBull]

That may be true, but the manner in which Team Khan got rid of Harrison was very unprofessional. Oliver certainly didn't deserve to be treated like that so Khan has no right to complain.

You don't know the full story behind it, Khan Team did not pull Harrison out.

[Dunky McCafferty]

i just dont get how he thinks anyone would find it funny, let alone not be really annoyed about it,

moderaters should do something about it. im making a complaint. i thought that kind of thing had died down on here recently, but maybe its just cos khan hasnt been fighting

Khans fans are the biggest racist scumbags going. I should know, I was there when they were goading the scottish fans before Harrison fought Hussein. They had to be removed for their own safety.

So I have to laugh when I see a Khan fan get all upset cos someone makes a joke about curry.

Im scottish, & I take pelters for our nation being 'haggis munching skirt wearers' I moan & groan about it, but you dont see me making complaints. Get a grip Robpalmer.

[The Kurgan]

But in a nan though, that's heavy.

I always knew that Amir Khan's fans EAT GRANNIES. I bet they keep newts as well.

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[The Kurgan]

You don't know the full story behind it, Khan Team did not pull Harrison out.

You would say that, AMIR.

[IronBull]

Khans fans are the biggest racist scumbags going. I should know, I was there when they were goading the scottish fans before Harrison fought Hussein. They had to be removed for their own safety.


Don't talk rubbish.. I was there...

Khan fans had to leave early for own safety...

A lot of abuse from BNP scum and some Scottish!

[IronBull]

If its true I think its spot on... lol.... I could go into the real reasons why they split but I think Khans doing a cracking job of creating negative publicity himself.

Let me add... I like Khan, i've met him a couple of times. He's an immense talent and if he was fighting anyone else I'd want him to do well. But I respect Oliver and count Gomez as one of my friends so for me for the first time I feel a little dismay towards Khan.

I remember Khan when he was a little tiny asian kid who used to stand at the back of the halls watching the shows. I cheered him on through the Olympics, in the ABA's and against Graham Earl but then the promised step up never came.

All these empty promise from SN make me massively frustrated and i've gone from been a fan, to been disappointed, to now cheering for the other guy.

The things that piss me off....

-Since Limmond he has been matched 90-10 (Earl aside)

-His opponents have generally been no-marks

-He avoided Romanov and Thaxton after calling them out.

-His (teams) shocking treatment of Harrison which I know the truth about.

-A minority of his fans are just as racist as the BNP which I find off putting.

-He called Gomez an idiot... which I find disrespectful.

-He's calling out manny Pacman but avoiding Yuri Romanov???

Its easy to call out the big names while fighting lower ranked fighters knowing that the match will never be made.

These are just some of the reasons why I find myself no longer a major fan.

Sorry mate, some of them are false and made up.

[IronBull]

You would say that, AMIR.

If you cant provide evidence then stop making false comment that Khan pull out Harrison..

Micky (ex trainer from amateur) is still with him for every pro fight as part of the team..

I know Khan want Harrison to come back to be part of the Team but there has been lack of communication.

Again you don't know the full story.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Don't talk rubbish.. I was there...

Khan fans had to leave early for own safety...

A lot of abuse from BNP scum and some Scottish!

For their own safety???

Oh come on. They were goading the scottish fans all night, even Nigel Wrights fans calmed down when the place started filling up, they were cunts too when Wright KO'd McIntyre.

I was there for the whole undercard, I watched it all unravel in front of my eyes. I even admitted afterwards that I felt sorry for an asian fellow who got verbally attacked in the car park by a bunch of scottish pricks, now if I admitted that happening why would I lie about the rest of the night?

aah fuck this shit. I cant be arsed getting into some stupid racial argument.

[Dunky McCafferty]

Oh & one more thing before I go, if Khans fans are so fucking lovely, why did Willie Limond get such horrific verbal abuse on his way to the ring? His manager Alex Morrison was quoted as saying he couldnt believe the racist insults hurled at them from Khans fans, he said he had never heard anything like it in all his years in the sport.

Damn Ironbull, your post has angered my scottish ass.

[Dunky McCafferty]

I don't see a Gomez win but to be fair there are reasons for the no-show. Some given by Jeff and also other legitimate reasons for the no-show at the presser. Gomez gets the blame for a lot of things but on this one I think he made the right decision.

Khan's people are not whiter than white.

On second thoughts forget it, its not worth the bother.

I edited my original post, but always good to hear from you Terry my good man. This subject is so touchy though that I will never discuss Amir Khan again.

[Dunky McCafferty]

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[kurt2006]

You don't know the full story behind it, Khan Team did not pull Harrison out.

Go on tell us the real story. From what I read Shah was telling everyone he tried to phone Oli and he would not return calls and that was behind the split. Not returning phone calls is hardly a big deal.

["TKO"]

glad im not going to see khan - i hear they wont be selling hot dogs / burgers but going for tikka in a nan

You are a real idiot do you know that???
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Anyone with a brain knows that the above is called a kebab!!!

[steelem]

TKO thanks - but in birmingham they really do sell tikka in a nan - so whose the idiot now - in any case my whole point is that bham is 35% asian so the following will be immense especially as there community is 5 miles away -

p.s the tikka nan will sell well !!

[steelem]

as for rob palmer - get a life

[robpalmer135]

they sell tikka in nan everywhere in the country. you should get a life with your imature comments.

[robpalmer135]

Khans fans are the biggest racist scumbags going. I should know, I was there when they were goading the scottish fans before Harrison fought Hussein. They had to be removed for their own safety.

So I have to laugh when I see a Khan fan get all upset cos someone makes a joke about curry.

Im scottish, & I take pelters for our nation being 'haggis munching skirt wearers' I moan & groan about it, but you dont see me making complaints. Get a grip Robpalmer.

two wrongs dont make a right. i am pretty sure khan doesnt condone there actions. Boxing is a working class sport that attracts people with narrow minded views.

if someone potrays these views on here im gonna bring it up.

the point about haggis is a good one, but he wasnt saying it like that and everyone knows it.

[Beeston Brawler]

No doubt you will be scared to go into the local greasy spoon and ask for full English with black coffee, incase you find a black Scottish person who takes offence.

The curry comment isn't remotely offensive at all - people from all around the world are stereotyped, as they are over here.

People from Wigan are commonly referred to as pie eaters, and don't really care - the JJB is the only rugby ground in the country where you cannot buy a burger, whilst Castleford fans are often referred to as 'inbreds' yet they just laugh it off.

Unless a white person calls someone a n1gger or say 'I hate blacks' that isn't racist. Many people say 'I hate ****s' - but that isn't racist, certainly no more so than saying 'I hate French' or Germans or Spaniards for that matter.

Hating a person of a different race isn't racist - hating them because of their race is :deal

[Cobbler]

Starting to think Steelem lives in somekind of whites-only enclave in the Dorset countryside with a village green, tea shoppe and a policeman on a bicycle.

Tikka? In a Naan?! My grandfather didn't fight the French at Agincourt to have us eating this foreign muck!

[steelem]

two wrongs dont make a right. i am pretty sure khan doesnt condone there actions. Boxing is a working class sport that attracts people with narrow minded views.

if someone potrays these views on here im gonna bring it up.

the point about haggis is a good one, but he wasnt saying it like that and everyone knows it.

you wanna get yourself out rob - its obvious you have NSOH

[steelem]

Starting to think Steelem lives in somekind of whites-only enclave in the Dorset countryside with a village green, tea shoppe and a policeman on a bicycle.

Tikka? In a Naan?! My grandfather didn't fight the French at Agincourt to have us eating this foreign muck!

im from BHAM U KNOB - tikka in a nan is the main dish -if youve not had that you aint lived

[steelem]

they sell tikka in nan everywhere in the country. you should get a life with your imature comments.

so immature your offended - 2 words for you rob F.U

[steelem]

I can bet though there will be more more asians at the khan fight than whites - i just hope if you are white & your going that you dont get caught in the trouble

[robpalmer135]

i think most aisan people would not like being called currey eaters. theres a difference.

a Nation is not a race. there are a large number of people, its not even a minority, who biggest reason for wanting khan to fail is because hes aisan and therefore pick at every bad thing he does like driving offences when there are allot of fighters that have done worse. Tyson raped people for fuck sake, nobody brought it up as a reason for him not to suceed.

[brown bomber]

You don't know the full story behind it I do and by the sounds of it - you don't.

[Beeston Brawler]

Rob,

Well all I can say is that they are over-sensitive!

I don't give a damn what people say about me to be honest, the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about......

As you rightly point out, there are worse things in life - such as drunk drivers, rapists etc, hence the reason why most people dislike the likes of Ashley Cole and Jermaine Pennant as opposed to Paul Scholes and Thierry Henry for instance.

[brown bomber]

Sorry mate, some of them are false and made up. Really which ones?

And whats the true reason behind the Harrison split- bearing in mind I KNOW the answer. I'm sure it would make great reading for ESB....

Which ones am I LYING about...... pressures on... whats the true reason mate? Or are you going to have to LIE yourself out of this one.

[Beeston Brawler]

Let's see.......

-Since Limmond he has been matched 90-10 (Earl aside) OPINION

-His opponents have generally been no-marks OPINION

-He avoided Romanov and Thaxton after calling them out. FACT

-His (teams) shocking treatment of Harrison which I know the truth about. MYSTERY

-A minority of his fans are just as racist as the BNP which I find off putting. FACT

-He called Gomez an idiot... which I find disrespectful. FACT - whether disrespectul or not.....

-He's calling out manny Pacman but avoiding Yuri Romanov??? FACT

Well - a few facts and a few opinions, the opinions are also shared by the majority of posters on ESB and casual fans also. In terms of the treatment of Harrison I have no idea, no doubt all will be revealed - unless Oliver has been paid a few quid for his silence, which I would doubt.

[brown bomber]

unless Oliver has been paid a few quid for his silence, which I would doubt. would you?

[Beeston Brawler]

Depends how much it was :rofl

Not if I had been treated as bad as you say Oliver Harrison has been, I would have practically moved in at Gomez's house for the week and taken every DVD of Amir Khan action I had and would have a video analysis session!

A few mates of mine said that Khan would become Naz mk II and I said otherwise, looks like I am being proved wrong......

The trainer has gone
He is being booed at events he attends
He has driving convictions

What next :think

[brown bomber]

Depends how much it was :rofl

Not if I had been treated as bad as you say Oliver Harrison has been, I would have practically moved in at Gomez's house for the week and taken every DVD of Amir Khan action I had and would have a video analysis session!

A few mates of mine said that Khan would become Naz mk II and I said otherwise, looks like I am being proved wrong......

The trainer has gone
He is being booed at events he attends
He has driving convictions

What next :thinkTwatted by a mexican? (a mancunian one?)

[Beeston Brawler]

Don't tempt me, I have just been paid today........

As much as I would love to see this being the case, I just can't see it - Gomez will take Khan into places where he has never been, but will run out of steam IMO.

That said, we all know Khan cannot fight on the inside, and has cumulative rather than concussive power, so if the beard holds up he has a chance.

But that is all!

[Strike]

Many people say 'I hate ****s' - but that isn't racist, certainly no more so than saying 'I hate French' or Germans or Spaniards for that matter.

Yes it is, and there is a vast difference for several reasons, both the history and connotations of the term and also how it is used and what it means. When people say that term they are referring to anyone of Asian race. The history of it has strong links to the NF movement of the 80s and all that goes with it.

Hating a person of a different race isn't racist - hating them because of their race is :deal

Very true.

[Grant1]

Very true.

Strike - that is the best i've ever seen Cheryl looking !!

[Decebal]

Jeff, it's not nice to rub the fact that you know some insider stuff in people's faces and then try and put others who also claim some insider knwledge down for getting it wrong without laying at least some of your cards on the table...!:hey

[SleazeNation]

I Khan's 'people' allegedly advised Gomez not to get in Khan's face, not to make a scene, not to intimidate him, or try to, not to do this, not to do that, blah, blah, blah...
If that's true I'm suprised. The one reason I thought Gomez as an opponent wouldn't be a total waste of time was that he'd be in Khan's face (like he does) to prepare Khan for future fighters like Campbell et al, who would be in his face and intimidating him.

If Khan's people don't want that from Gomez, this fight is a completely pointless exercise. imo.

[SleazeNation]

****** would be mad to put Khan in with Campbell. That would be a horrendous beating for Khan.
If Khan is ever going to fight for a real world title, how will he get a better chance than fighting a 36 year old former super featherweight who loses to nearly every world class fighter he's faced?

Campbell is very overrated at the moment. imo.

[Beeston Brawler]

Nate Campbell would eat Amir Khan alive, both in and out of the ring!

Strike - I understand your point regarding racism, something that slipped my mind.

[SleazeNation]

Nate Campbell would eat Amir Khan alive, both in and out of the ring!
He got KTFO by Robbie Peden TWICE at super featherweight. Nate Campbell losses his titles inside the next 12 months.

The longer Team Khan wait, the more likely a 36 year old world class loser isn't the man to beat. Don't wait.

I'm disappointed in this Gomez fight, pointless, when they could have fought a decent guy to prepare him for Campbell or Casamayor... either way they shouldn't wait too long.

[Beeston Brawler]

Campbell isn't all that, agreed Sleaze, but he can punch.

That is all that it will take.

[SleazeNation]

Campbell isn't all that, agreed Sleaze, but he can punch.

That is all that it will take.
It'd be nice to know how bad his chin actually is. I hope they give him a proper opponent next time.

[Beeston Brawler]

Go for it - stick Khan in with one of those, hopefully then the tiresome bandwagon will come to a screaching halt!

[Beeston Brawler]

True

[SleazeNation]

Campbell is an excellent fighter who has similar issues to Zab Judah - terrible mental focus. He beat Juan Diaz, a genuine world-class fighter convincingly.

His first loss to Peden came when he was soundly beating the guy and offered up his chin stupidly. Actually waved it in! No shame in losing to Casamayor either.

And then he beat Juan Diaz. Who would beat the granny out of Khan.

Casamayor would thrash Khan by virtue of two things: superior timing and Khan not having the muscle Katsidis had to keep it close.

Basically, Khan has done nothing to show us what he can achieve even at top Euro level because he hasn't been matched with anyone like that.

Until he faces Romanov or someone as a similar test, I will only speak of him in the poorest terms.

If you honestly think Khan's ready for one of the top 3 LWs in the world with the opposition he's faced, you are sadly mistaken.
Judah has never lost to average fighters like Peden, Hlatswayo, Lorenzo... and he's only 30 now. Judah's WORST loss is Baldomir!

Even in his prime Campbell was ropey, and he is 36 years old now, that's ancient for a lightweight.

Because of who Khan has faced so far Campbell would be favourate to beat him if they fought now. But Campbell WILL lose in his next 3 fights, and if Khan is one of those opponents he'll have a great chance of being the one who does it. But only if SN actually get him ready for it with a decent opponent next time...

[Beeston Brawler]

Another question.......

Will Campbell travel - because we all know Sports Network fighters struggle to find their passports!

I don't see Khan getting in there with Campbell - who are his mandatories? I think Casamayor has vacated the WBO interim title by accepting the Marquez fight, he won't have a WBA mando, and the IBF don't have No.1 & 2 contenders.

****** did state in Boxing Monthly that Khan should be held back on the basis that 'there isn't a Steve Robinson holding a belt' in reference to his desire to beat Naz's record - so what next, he is not interested in proper titles like the British and European, so it is either this interalphabetty nonsense or the WBU.

[elle]

We now have a situation where the British and European Titles at Lightweight are up for grabs as Thaxton and Romanov have both vacated but Khan is not competing for either!

He only seems interested in a World Title and in the meantime it looks like he will just continue to defend the Commonwealth Belt (he should have been stripped of) against the likes of Gomez.

Its no wonder some former fans on here are losing interest in his career - especially when you factor in the treatment of his ex trainer and his attitude which at times seems so far removed from the humble teenager who represented us at the Olympics. It is a real shame.

[Brummy1976]

I can bet though there will be more more asians at the khan fight than whites - i just hope if you are white & your going that you dont get caught in the trouble Fellow brummie here. Believe it or not the main racists in b'ham are asian,Fact. And yes i can see asians causing trouble, thinking your white and should'nt be here, totally.The only racial trouble i see is gangs of asians coming up to the place where i live in gangs and picking on 1 or 2 white lads.I have asian neighbours who are lovely and genuine muslims. They are embarrassed and ashamed of these bullys. Facts should'nt be seen as racial. Bye bye....Look forward to defending me being a racist later !!!!:hi:

[DamonD]

I think we can safely say that this apathy no longer exists at least...

[brown bomber]

Fellow brummie here. Believe it or not the main racists in b'ham are asian,Fact. And yes i can see asians causing trouble, thinking your white and should'nt be here, totally.The only racial trouble i see is gangs of asians coming up to the place where i live in gangs and picking on 1 or 2 white lads.I have asian neighbours who are lovely and genuine muslims. They are embarrassed and ashamed of these bullys. Facts should'nt be seen as racial. Bye bye....Look forward to defending me being a racist later !!!!:hi: Are you genuinely Peter Buckley?

["TKO"]

Another question.......

Will Campbell travel - because we all know Sports Network fighters struggle to find their passports!

I don't see Khan getting in there with Campbell - who are his mandatories? I think Casamayor has vacated the WBO interim title by accepting the Marquez fight, he won't have a WBA mando, and the IBF don't have No.1 & 2 contenders.

****** did state in Boxing Monthly that Khan should be held back on the basis that 'there isn't a Steve Robinson holding a belt' in reference to his desire to beat Naz's record - so what next, he is not interested in proper titles like the British and European, so it is either this interalphabetty nonsense or the WBU.

All of which I found quite disrespectful to Steve Robinson, who was certainly no mug having whupped a number of world class fighters. Nate Campbell's record is certainly no more impressive, okay he has the big win over Diaz but on the whole it is patchy to say the least. I kind of agree with Sleaze Nation, there is a big chance he loses that belt in the next 12 months. If Khan is to win a genuine world title (i.e. not just end up a paper champ with umpteen WBU defences) he won't have many better chances. I wouldn't be surprised to see Diaz win a rematch.

That said, he will not beat someone like Campbell unless he has a few tough bouts to prepare for it. Someone like a Romanoz, Katsidis or Santa Cruz. You cannot jump up that many levels all in one go. I don't have a problem with Khan taking his time as he is what, 21, has been a pro less than 3 years and has had only 17 bouts. But talk of a world title at this stage is frankly foolish. I certainly don't see him beating Diaz or the Pacman.

Back to the matter in hand, despite Jeff's comments making me think again, I reckon Gomez will be out of there inside 6 rounds. He's what, 32, a career super feather and has had a number of hard fights. The bookies make Khan a 1-14 shot and I've never met a poor one as they say.

[Brummy1976]

Are you genuinely Peter Buckley? Lol, no i'm not mate, but you could throw a stone and hit his house from mine.Boxers like buckley rarely get a mention, when infact their the back bone of the sport we love. Just thought i'd have him as me screen name. Nice fella. You seen his record ? who hes fought ? Fought all of em over the years !

[brown bomber]

Lol, no i'm not mate, but you could throw a stone and hit his house from mine.Boxers like buckley rarely get a mention, when infact their the back bone of the sport we love. Just thought i'd have him as me screen name. Nice fella. You seen his record ? who hes fought ? Fought all of em over the years ! He's fought me... lovely chap.. :good

[Brummy1976]

Hard bloke to knock out.Did u find him a crafty fighter ??

[fita]

Fellow brummie here. Believe it or not the main racists in b'ham are asian,Fact. And yes i can see asians causing trouble, thinking your white and should'nt be here, totally.The only racial trouble i see is gangs of asians coming up to the place where i live in gangs and picking on 1 or 2 white lads.I have asian neighbours who are lovely and genuine muslims. They are embarrassed and ashamed of these bullys. Facts should'nt be seen as racial. Bye bye....Look forward to defending me being a racist later !!!!:hi:

Hmmmm, you should get around Birmingham more. Ever been to Kingstanding, Chelmsley Wood or Northfield? I've seen asians being attacked by white gangs there for being '****s'. I've seen blacks attacking asians in areas such as Handsworth, Newtown. And I've seen asians attacking whites and blacks in areas such as Sparkhill, Alum Rock and Small Heath. I've also witnessed Muslims going at it with Sikhs in nightclubs, just because historically they've never got on, Somalian blacks fighting West Indian blacks, I could go on.

All in all, racial violence is not exclusive to one community, it is down to a lack of education. If you're gonna blame anyone blame the chav mentality. White chavs, black chavs, asian chavs.

And to the guy who said somebody saying 'I hate ****s' isn't racist, what an absolute idiot.

[brown bomber]

Hard bloke to knock out.Did u find him a crafty fighter ?? H e told me I was one of the better fighters he fouught which was a real compliment.. He was quite tricky but I well outboxed him and hurt him once or twice. He had just been stopped by Bradley Pryce.

[Beeston Brawler]

Hmmmm, you should get around Birmingham more. Ever been to Kingstanding, Chelmsley Wood or Northfield? I've seen asians being attacked by white gangs there for being '****s'. I've seen blacks attacking asians in areas such as Handsworth, Newtown. And I've seen asians attacking whites and blacks in areas such as Sparkhill, Alum Rock and Small Heath. I've also witnessed Muslims going at it with Sikhs in nightclubs, just because historically they've never got on, Somalian blacks fighting West Indian blacks, I could go on.

All in all, racial violence is not exclusive to one community, it is down to a lack of education. If you're gonna blame anyone blame the chav mentality. White chavs, black chavs, asian chavs.

And to the guy who said somebody saying 'I hate ****s' isn't racist, what an absolute idiot.

I was referring to '****s' as a nationality, rather than a race - it depends on your views, whether you generalise asian people as '****s' or not - I don't.

There are a few blacks that I don't like, a few Indians and ****stanis, and just as many English - but I am not racist at all.

Hating someone for WHO they are is fine (depending on the reasons), but hating someone for WHAT they are is unacceptable - whether this be fat, ugly, shit at football or whatever.

[The Kurgan]

If you cant provide evidence then stop making false comment that Khan pull out Harrison..

Micky (ex trainer from amateur) is still with him for every pro fight as part of the team..

I know Khan want Harrison to come back to be part of the Team but there has been lack of communication.

Again you don't know the full story.

I never said anything about Khan and Harrison. I take a sceptical stance on all matters concerning celebrities and their private affairs, though.

[The Kurgan]

No doubt you will be scared to go into the local greasy spoon and ask for full English with black coffee, incase you find a black Scottish person who takes offence.


:rofl

[Beeston Brawler]

This whole political correctness thing really pisses me off.....

Soon you won't be able to say your own name without upsetting some sad case.

Tradesman is now 'tradesperson' - even though no woman I know would be offended

Baa baa black sheep is now baa baa pink sheep - ditto no black person would be offended, or shouldn't be!

[robpalmer135]

Theres no way Khans people have told Gomez not to get in khans face and upset him, anyone that knows anything about Michael Gomez or boxing would no it would make Gomez want to do it more.

i think gomez is keeping away as the whole reason ****** made this fight was to prepare khan for the bigger fights and the pyshcing out techniques he will encounter.

Gomez staying away doing nothing is mind games I think. Whens the weigh in???

[robpalmer135]

This whole political correctness thing really pisses me off.....

Soon you won't be able to say your own name without upsetting some sad case.

Tradesman is now 'tradesperson' - even though no woman I know would be offended

Baa baa black sheep is now baa baa pink sheep - ditto no black person would be offended, or shouldn't be!

I agree political corectness has gone to far, but I think Aisan people suffer more from racism in this country than anyone else.

Beetson your point about calling someone a **** not being a bad thing earliar is ridiclious, you must realise that?


Oh and I am sorry for stirring uopthe race debate guys.

[Beeston Brawler]

If done in an offensive way, then obviously it is - calling someone a **** bastard isn't nice, just as it isn't calling someone a Aussie bastard. To me there is no difference, regardless of skin colour - unless you are generalising, which then does become racist. There is a fine line which many simply don't understand.

But on the flip side, say you are playing in a game of cricket or whatever, and there is one player who is much better than anyone else, and you say after the game: 'that **** lad was quality', i don't consider that offensive - if someone was referring to me and said 'that lad with massive head' or 'him who looks like wayne rooney' - it wouldn't particularly bother me, nor would it if someone called me a pale white bastard.

Many are simply too sensitive and need to realise there are worse things in life!

As someone who attended schools with wide varieties of races, I feel i understand it. I will give you an example.

White lad, Scott, cocky bastard, starts goading Sanath, an Asian lad, saying he hates ****s. Amazed at not getting an outburst or a slap across the chops, he goes on again - to which Sanath replies 'I hate ****s too'. Not quite understanding, Scott then says: 'So you hate people from your own country' 'No' was the reply. 'I am from India'

Queue giggles and high fives from everyone and an embarrassed school bully walks off in a sulk.

[Brummy1976]

Hmmmm, you should get around Birmingham more. Ever been to Kingstanding, Chelmsley Wood or Northfield? I've seen asians being attacked by white gangs there for being '****s'. I've seen blacks attacking asians in areas such as Handsworth, Newtown. And I've seen asians attacking whites and blacks in areas such as Sparkhill, Alum Rock and Small Heath. I've also witnessed Muslims going at it with Sikhs in nightclubs, just because historically they've never got on, Somalian blacks fighting West Indian blacks, I could go on.

All in all, racial violence is not exclusive to one community, it is down to a lack of education. If you're gonna blame anyone blame the chav mentality. White chavs, black chavs, asian chavs.

And to the guy who said somebody saying 'I hate ****s' isn't racist, what an absolute idiot.Perhaps the wider picture maybe. I'm only commenting on my experiences.Fita, u sure have seen a lot of violence.I will dissagree with you on the majority of what u say though. These muslim clerics spouting pure hatred are'nt chav's.There misleading the blind and illiterate, the ones who want to hate, and just need a guiding hand in doing so. It's discusting that there breeding hatred in this country.I come from an irish family, who emigrated to this country in the 60's.Although they found it hard at first, getting picked on and bullied, they eventually integrated with each other.

[Fat Joe]

We all know Sports Network fighters struggle to find their passports!

:lol: I just spat my tea out reading that.

[robpalmer135]

If done in an offensive way, then obviously it is - calling someone a **** bastard isn't nice, just as it isn't calling someone a Aussie bastard. To me there is no difference, regardless of skin colour - unless you are generalising, which then does become racist. There is a fine line which many simply don't understand.

But on the flip side, say you are playing in a game of cricket or whatever, and there is one player who is much better than anyone else, and you say after the game: 'that **** lad was quality', i don't consider that offensive - if someone was referring to me and said 'that lad with massive head' or 'him who looks like wayne rooney' - it wouldn't particularly bother me, nor would it if someone called me a pale white bastard.

Many are simply too sensitive and need to realise there are worse things in life!

As someone who attended schools with wide varieties of races, I feel i understand it. I will give you an example.

White lad, Scott, cocky bastard, starts goading Sanath, an Asian lad, saying he hates ****s. Amazed at not getting an outburst or a slap across the chops, he goes on again - to which Sanath replies 'I hate ****s too'. Not quite understanding, Scott then says: 'So you hate people from your own country' 'No' was the reply. 'I am from India'

Queue giggles and high fives from everyone and an embarrassed school bully walks off in a sulk.


I would never say "that ****" . The tale you told there sums up why you shouldnt call someone a **** you fool!

No aisan person would want to be called a ****, even if they are from ****stan.

[Beeston Brawler]

The tone was wrong - but you don't understand my point, so I will give up!

[Beeston Brawler]

:lol: I just spat my tea out reading that.

You may as well say it how it is :lol:

[Fat Joe]

You may as well say it how it is :lol:

I don't know why, but I had a vision of Enzo Maccarinelli rooting through drawers in his bedroom, losing his temper and shouting at the wife.

[Beeston Brawler]

Saying what exactly?

I think I know what you are going to say :rofl

[Beeston Brawler]

Good point - the people that are the supposed sufferers of racist abuse don't even bat an eyelid at half of the things that could be considered racist.

Will it be no birthdays or christmas so we don't upset jehovah's witnesses?

People ought to be free to get on with their lives as they wish in a multicultural society - as they used to be able to.

[fita]

I was referring to '****s' as a nationality, rather than a race - it depends on your views, whether you generalise asian people as '****s' or not - I don't.

There are a few blacks that I don't like, a few Indians and ****stanis, and just as many English - but I am not racist at all.

Hating someone for WHO they are is fine (depending on the reasons), but hating someone for WHAT they are is unacceptable - whether this be fat, ugly, shit at football or whatever.

Yes it is, but saying 'I hate ****s' is a blanket statement.

Also, even if you refer to a ****stani as a '**** lad', that could be defined as racist seeing as the word **** has always had racial connotations in this country. Especially, from the 70s when skinheads would go '****-bashing'. To me its nearly as bad as calling a black person a n*gger.

[fita]

Perhaps the wider picture maybe. I'm only commenting on my experiences.Fita, u sure have seen a lot of violence.I will dissagree with you on the majority of what u say though. These muslim clerics spouting pure hatred are'nt chav's.There misleading the blind and illiterate, the ones who want to hate, and just need a guiding hand in doing so. It's discusting that there breeding hatred in this country.I come from an irish family, who emigrated to this country in the 60's.Although they found it hard at first, getting picked on and bullied, they eventually integrated with each other.

They are chavs in that they are uneducated morons for the most part. Yes it is disgusting, but there is also a problem with the BNP and NF leaders who give a guiding hand to young white youths to hate non-whites.

Again, racial hate or violence is not limited to any one community, you seem to have an extremely blinkered view.

[robpalmer135]

Rob Palmer: Racial Equality Warrior!

The people who often take most issue about racism are those who are generally not the target or the subject.

Too many people deign to decide what is and is not racist based on their own prejudices. I recall writing an Easter message and making reference to, surprise, Easter. The managers told me to remove it because it might offend the other religious denominations in the business.

I pointed out that it was actually Easter and, since we were having an Easter break, I’m pretty sure the symbolism wouldn’t offend anyone.

Weirdly, I sent it out to a veriety of people, including Sikhs, muslims, jews and not a single one complained. The only people that did were… the white Christians in case it offended muslims.

Pompous or what!?


I went out with a mixed race aisan/english girl for about 3 months a couple of years ago. i got alot of dirty looks and nasty comments from people, on both sides but mostly white folk. ended up being to much grief for her. she was fit as well.

yeh people are crazy about that stuff i dont get why, like not having nativetys and stuff, ridiclious. I think they should make the effort, certianly at schools to celebrate all festivals.

I went to a catholic shooul and they taught us fuck all about Jewish, Muslim and Hindu holidays and culture, had to teach myself about it.

[fita]

comon

**** is clearly short for ****stan. Just cause they have a diff skin colour gets people like you all racially protective.

Aussie is not an insult however??

I'm '****' myself. As I said, the word has a lot of historically racial connotations. Pretty much every ****stani out there would find being called a **** by a non-****stani offensive.

[robpalmer135]

comon

**** is clearly short for ****stan. Just cause they have a diff skin colour gets people like you all racially protective.

Aussie is not an insult however??

**** is short for ****stani just like alot other racial slurs are short for where people are from.

No ****stani calls themselves a ****, and if they do there an idiot themselves.

[Beeston Brawler]

The point is understood - but I wasn't around in the 60's and 70's so don't appreciate '**** bashing'

I would bash a **** if they pissed me off, but i wouldn't bash them because they are a ****!

now - i think most agree that whatever happened in the past was wrong, but that is no reason for the current generation to be forced into this ridiculous situation of political correctness!

but these days, society is bonkers!

[fita]

Rob Palmer: Racial Equality Warrior!

The people who often take most issue about racism are those who are generally not the target or the subject.

Too many people deign to decide what is and is not racist based on their own prejudices. I recall writing an Easter message and making reference to, surprise, Easter. The managers told me to remove it because it might offend the other religious denominations in the business.

I pointed out that it was actually Easter and, since we were having an Easter break, I’m pretty sure the symbolism wouldn’t offend anyone.

Weirdly, I sent it out to a veriety of people, including Sikhs, muslims, jews and not a single one complained. The only people that did were… the white Christians in case it offended muslims.

Pompous or what!?

You don't understand how much things like this piss people like me off. I mean, fuck, this is a historically Christian country. Why the hell would any non-Christians get offended by this kinda stuff. Honestly, you should celebrate St. Georges day with more pride too, it's pathetic that the English flag is sometimes hidden away for fear of offending minorities.

It really makes people from these minorities, like me, look bad too.

[fita]

**** is short for ****stani just like alot other racial slurs are short for where people are from.

No ****stani calls themselves a ****, and if they do there an idiot themselves.

haha we do. But it's like black people calling each other n*gger, it'll never become acceptable for others to use it

[fita]

The point is understood - but I wasn't around in the 60's and 70's so don't appreciate '**** bashing'

I would bash a **** if they pissed me off, but i wouldn't bash them because they are a ****!

now - i think most agree that whatever happened in the past was wrong, but that is no reason for the current generation to be forced into this ridiculous situation of political correctness!

but these days, society is bonkers!

Why not use the full word '****stani' when you know it offends us so much? I really don't see where you're coming from.

[robpalmer135]

Why not use the full word '****stani' when you know it offends us so much? I really don't see where you're coming from.

spot on

[Beeston Brawler]

I totally agree Fita - people should be proud of where they come from and should be able to display that without fear of backlash. I remember playing a game of cricket in a park one day when i was about six, and it was england vs ****stan (so to speak - repeat of the 1992 world cup final) and was a real good laugh, but no fighting or verbals - just twenty or so kids playing sport.

There is a large asian community in the area of leeds where i live and they have their own festival each year, which is well attended by all members of the community - i am not saying there is full racial harmony, but there is integration to a certain degree.

[robpalmer135]

haha we do. But it's like black people calling each other n*gger, it'll never become acceptable for others to use it


yeh i personally think its stupid.

[kurt2006]

I would never say "that ****" . The tale you told there sums up why you shouldnt call someone a **** you fool!

No aisan person would want to be called a ****, even if they are from ****stan.

They happily refer to each other as ****s, so whats wrong if someone else says it ?

Yes Indians, Bangladeshis and Sri Lankans do not like to be called **** but lots of ****stani youngsters use the word.

[kurt2006]

...what I heard a few times in that Khan's 'people' allegedly advised Gomez not to get in Khan's face, not to make a scene, not to intimidate him, or try to, not to do this, not to do that,

That does not surprise me, Khan cacked his pants when baby bull walked on stage for the JC- Bhops weighin.

I guess they did not want him having to go back to Bolton with a skidder. Them fancy heated leather seat in the car would get a bit messy.

[brown bomber]

If I was a **** and someone called me a ****- knowing that I was one I wouldn't be offended. If I was an indian and someone called me a **** then I'd be pissed.

At school I use to think it was rude to call someone a **** but if your from ****stan your a ****- so whats the problem.

Surely if your a ****stani and you find been called a **** offensive you must have a very low opinion of your own country?

I'm quite interested by this conversation.

[Brummy1976]

haha we do. But it's like black people calling each other n*gger, it'll never become acceptable for others to use itis'nt that racism ?

[brown bomber]

I'm half cast.... Would I get away with calling someone a n1gger or a ****? Not that i'd want to.... much.

[Brummy1976]

If I was a **** and someone called me a ****- knowing that I was one I wouldn't be offended. If I was an indian and someone called me a **** then I'd be pissed.

At school I use to think it was rude to call someone a **** but if your from ****stan your a ****- so whats the problem.

Surely if your a ****stani and you find been called a **** offensive you must have a very low opinion of your own country?

I'm quite interested by this conversation.irish=ireland english=england etc etc why does a man from ****stan have a problem with being called a packi.

[Benjiabc]

If I was a **** and someone called me a ****- knowing that I was one I wouldn't be offended. If I was an indian and someone called me a **** then I'd be pissed.

At school I use to think it was rude to call someone a **** but if your from ****stan your a ****- so whats the problem.

Surely if your a ****stani and you find been called a **** offensive you must have a very low opinion of your own country?

I'm quite interested by this conversation.


exactly, i have often thought this:good

[The Kurgan]

Rob Palmer: Racial Equality Warrior!

The people who often take most issue about racism are those who are generally not the target or the subject.

Too many people deign to decide what is and is not racist based on their own prejudices. I recall writing an Easter message and making reference to, surprise, Easter. The managers told me to remove it because it might offend the other religious denominations in the business.

I pointed out that it was actually Easter and, since we were having an Easter break, I’m pretty sure the symbolism wouldn’t offend anyone.

Weirdly, I sent it out to a veriety of people, including Sikhs, muslims, jews and not a single one complained. The only people that did were… the white Christians in case it offended muslims.

Pompous or what!?

You have to remember that a lot of these god-squad whiteys really just want non-whites and non-Christians to at least leave them alone and preferably do as they say. They certainly don't think that Sikhs, Muslims and Jews would know what was best for them.

[The Kurgan]

I'm half cast.... Would I get away with calling someone a n1gger or a ****? Not that i'd want to.... much.

"I'm mixed race."

"... My favourite."

[Brummy1976]

They are chavs in that they are uneducated morons for the most part. Yes it is disgusting, but there is also a problem with the BNP and NF leaders who give a guiding hand to young white youths to hate non-whites.

Again, racial hate or violence is not limited to any one community, you seem to have an extremely blinkered view.Blinkered ?? Not really, because i dont agree with you?Its your opinion, thats all...

[LB3000]

irish=ireland english=england etc etc why does a man from ****stan have a problem with being called a packi.

****stani = ****stan

[Decebal]

If ****stanis weren't offended by the appelative "****", most if not all people who use the term wouldn't use it in the first place; they use it BECAUSE they know it offends/upsets ****stanis, BECAUSE they want to cause offence or because they dislike ****stanis and know that people who dislike ****stanis use the term to refer to ****stanis. Hence, it is an offensive term (as we all know).;)

...off topic, I know.

[brown bomber]

"I'm mixed race."

"... My favourite.":? Explain?

[fita]

If I was a **** and someone called me a ****- knowing that I was one I wouldn't be offended. If I was an indian and someone called me a **** then I'd be pissed.

At school I use to think it was rude to call someone a **** but if your from ****stan your a ****- so whats the problem.

Surely if your a ****stani and you find been called a **** offensive you must have a very low opinion of your own country?

I'm quite interested by this conversation.

As I've said it has almost always been used in a derogatory manner. Especially when skinheads used to go around ****-bashing. I swear, I'm as laidback a guy as you can get, but I find it offensive, and I know almost all other ****stanis do too.

[Maza1987]

FFS.
Why the feck has this become a racial discussion thread.
Take it to the general discussion!!

Anyway, back on topic, just letting eryone know the latest pre fight interviews are up on Franks yotube channel.

[Only registered and activated users can see links]******

[fita]

Well said, LB3000 AND Decebal

[brown bomber]

As I've said it has almost always been used in a derogatory manner. Especially when skinheads used to go around ****-bashing. I swear, I'm as laidback a guy as you can get, but I find it offensive, and I know almost all other ****stanis do too. Well that answers that then- I would never call anyone that anyway but its interesting to hear it from a ****stani. Thanks.

[Decebal]

FFS.
Why the feck has this become a racial discussion thread.


Because the way people feel about Khan is rightly or wrongly influenced by his ethnic background/religion. Some people want him to lose because he is ****stani/Muslim, for example. Others excuse him for his faults/mistakes for the same reason too.

[brown bomber]

Well said, LB3000 AND DecebalFita please excuse my ignorance in this matter- my family are mixed race of many different cultures so race has neve been something that has ever been an issue for me thus the lack of knowlege. :good

[brown bomber]

Khans race is irrelevant to me... his fans behaviour and attitude is relevant because it directly affects my viewing pleasure.

[steelem]

ok so anyone going tommorrow can expect some fine boxing - refreshments from Taj & co - including there famous popadoms - tika nan - refreshed with some tiger beer

[ishy]

weigh in video if anyone's interested. There's a bit of analysis by Buncey after weigh in.


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[steelem]

poor gomez will be taken out very early - im sick of this match fixing

[elle]

weigh in video if anyone's interested. There's a bit of analysis by Buncey after weigh in.



Saw clip of the weigh in on FWTV earlier - pretty uneventful apart from Gomez completely stripping off! :oops:

[IronBull]

Khans race is irrelevant to me... his fans behaviour and attitude is relevant because it directly affects my viewing pleasure.

:patsch

I don't like you bringing race into it but don't just blame on Khan fans.

Khan fans has been abused a few time including throwing bottle and spitting.

[ishy]

Saw clip of the weigh in on FWTV earlier - pretty uneventful apart from Gomez completely stripping off! :oops:

lol, this is from Setanta and quite a bit of unbiased analysis from Bunce. Lee Meager's in the studio with Bunce and they showed the Limmond KD and agreed that Khan got a long count.

[fita]

Fita please excuse my ignorance in this matter- my family are mixed race of many different cultures so race has neve been something that has ever been an issue for me thus the lack of knowlege. :good

No worries mate.

As for the fight, these last twao match-ups are the first I've been genuinely disappointed with. He really should have stepped up a class by now. Really needs to get rid of FW, and take more fights in the US. In fact it wouldn't be a bad idea for him to move over there permanently, and get a top trainer. Also, it would keep him away from some of the idiots he surrounds himself with over here. They could lead to his downfall.

[gutto]

The point is understood - but I wasn't around in the 60's and 70's so don't appreciate '**** bashing'

I would bash a **** if they pissed me off, but i wouldn't bash them because they are a ****!

now - i think most agree that whatever happened in the past was wrong, but that is no reason for the current generation to be forced into this ridiculous situation of political correctness!

but these days, society is bonkers!


Fucking A what happen to the country that was once great

[brown bomber]

:patsch

I don't like you bringing race into it but don't just blame on Khan fans.

Khan fans has been abused a few time including throwing bottle and spitting. I wouldn't just blame it on Khans fans!! I went to cheer Amir Khan on in the ABA's at preston. I went there to watch a brit olympian make his senior ABA debut. So did a lot of my friends.

So i'm sat there proud as fuck cheering for Khan and I start to notice loads of asian youths walking around in 'Amir Khan- Property of Islam' T-shirts.

Is that not the ultimate 'fuck you' to all those UK fans who were proud to see a young asian lad bridging the social divide.

If thats not racist and hate-filled and insiteful I don't know what is.

And Iron Bull you've basically called me a liar on my previous post when I know i'm been 100% truthful and I resent that. You've still not answered my question ... What is the real reason behind the Khan-Harrison split..? You can't say it can you?.... Breakdown in communication? :rofl Brilliant.

[MattMattMatt]

Jeff, your inbox is full.;)

[Tuffnutz]

weigh in video if anyone's interested. There's a bit of analysis by Buncey after weigh in.


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:good

[Fat Joe]

Because the way people feel about Khan is rightly or wrongly influenced by his ethnic background/religion. Some people want him to lose because he is ****stani/Muslim

I thought it was because he is a twat.

[Decebal]

What is the real reason behind the Khan-Harrison split..? You can't say it can you?.... Breakdown in communication? :rofl Brilliant.

Well, what IS the reason, jeff?:think

[Decebal]

I thought it was because he is a twat.

...that only accounts for 80% of the reasons why people want him to lose.;) :p

[brown bomber]

Well, what IS the reason, jeff?:think Can't say... sorry mate... i'm sure Iron Bull will clear things up. :D

[Decebal]

Can't say... sorry mate... i'm sure Iron Bull will clear things up. :D

:lol:

[slapbangwhallop]

well there was plenty of "racial" abuse thrown at Gomez last night for his Irish ethnicity.

some of the shit I heard was "kill the fucking Paddy bastard" "leprachaun cunt" "Irish cunt" yadda yadda yadda - sometimes "causal boxing fans" are complete morons and have no respect for "their fighter's" opponent

a well!

[Dunky McCafferty]

well there was plenty of "racial" abuse thrown at Gomez last night for his Irish ethnicity.

some of the shit I heard was "kill the fucking Paddy bastard" "leprachaun cunt" "Irish cunt" yadda yadda yadda - sometimes "causal boxing fans" are complete morons and have no respect for "their fighter's" opponent

a well!

Even Khans fans here cant cover up for the massive disrespect they showed to gomez after the fight, when the MC gave the obligatory "& lets have a big cheer for a gallant opponent in Michael Gomez" the Khan fans booed the place down. Khans fans in the main are racist twats. I encountered them, you encountered them & they are vicious.

[icemax]

Booing any fighter (champ or journeyman) who has the balls to lace up a pair of gloves and get into the ring to earn a living is a complete disgrace.

[Beatboxer]

I wouldn't just blame it on Khans fans!! I went to cheer Amir Khan on in the ABA's at preston. I went there to watch a brit olympian make his senior ABA debut. So did a lot of my friends.

So i'm sat there proud as fuck cheering for Khan and I start to notice loads of asian youths walking around in 'Amir Khan- Property of Islam' T-shirts.

Is that not the ultimate 'fuck you' to all those UK fans who were proud to see a young asian lad bridging the social divide.

If thats not racist and hate-filled and insiteful I don't know what is.

And Iron Bull you've basically called me a liar on my previous post when I know i'm been 100% truthful and I resent that. You've still not answered my question ... What is the real reason behind the Khan-Harrison split..? You can't say it can you?.... Breakdown in communication? :rofl Brilliant.

Brillant post Jeff, and I'm going to say something mildly controversial...

One of the thing's that put's me off Khan is the fact that he has, on many occasions, went on about the 'sizeable Asian community' in the place's where he has fought i.e Glasgow. Now, why does he feel the need to bring that up? Does he feel that the bulk of his fan's have to be Asian? This pisses me off and the mere mention of it alienated me from the start...since then there has been many more reasons to dislike him but those are well documented..

What the hell would people say if for instance a white boxer from South Africa fought in a certain place there..and went 'yeah it's good because there is a sizeable white community here' people would be up in arm's! Anti-intergration etc etc etc

Always irked me that has...