Greatest welterweight of our generation?

[cross_trainer]

Who do you see winning the Floyd/Cotto/Williams/Mosley quadrangle to become our generation's equivalent of Ray Leonard?

[Jose FM]

The jury is still out on Cotto and Williams, Floyd needs more fights in the division to get that status, and Forrest owned Mosley in the division, I thougt Tito was our generations best WW, but it will never be on the level it was with SRL and Hearns, Benetiz, and Duran.
Omit the Tito part and i agree word for word!

[Scorpion]

Then give me your pick. Tito set a record for WW title defenses, he was a brutal KO artist who held the belt for six years, who else has a better WW resume than Tito, he never lost in that division. Ironically I believe that he would have accomplished the same things at 154 if he woulden't have gotton over ambitious.

Agreed.

[El Bombasto]

Then give me your pick. Tito set a record for WW title defenses, he was a brutal KO artist who held the belt for six years, who else has a better WW resume than Tito, he never lost in that division. Ironically I believe that he would have accomplished the same things at 154 if he woulden't have gotton over ambitious.

Yep

[Fedor Em]

I would have to say Tito for the reasons stated above, even if he did lose to Oscar (which I think he did) DLH was too inconsistent, and Floyd is too unproven at 147. Shane makes a case if he can become linear again but those Forrest losses still keep him from being the best in his generation at welter.

[Olander]

There are many good to very good fighters at WW. None of today's WW's are the equal of SRL, however.

[TroubleLurks]

Who do you see winning the Floyd/Cotto/Williams/Mosley quadrangle to become our generation's equivalent of Ray Leonard?Mosley. Surprise, I know.

[Thread Stealer]

The era of the mid to late 90s was great at WW. Unfortunately, no one really stood out as the best, and the fights were for the most part, let downs.

Pernell Whitaker vs. Oscar De La Hoya: Oscar wins a controversial decision.

Ike Quartey vs. Oscar De La Hoya: Oscar wins a controversial decision.

Felix Trinidad vs. Oscar De La Hoya: Tito wins a controversial decision.

Because of the inconclusive results of these big fights, it was tough to say who was the best. Tito had the longest reign at WW, but let's not act like his opposition was the toughest during his reign. His best opponents before 1999 were undefeated contenders at the time, but Oba Carr and Yori Boy Campas were still realtively untested. Tito beat a shot Maurice Blocker for the IBF belt. Pernell Whitaker wasn't the fighter he was 4 years earlier, let alone 8-10 years earlier when he was at his best weight class. And for the most part, people agree that Tito lost to Oscar, or got a draw at best.

The current WW division is a great one. As far as comparing to the late 70s and early 80s, no. But that's rare anyway. You had 4 all-time and second-tier greats in or near their prime. The division right now is great and we're having some excellent matchups. Boxing fans are used to whining, so I think we should appreciate and enjoy the division right now because it's a damn good one.

Time remains to be seen who will be the best WW of our generation, but I have a feeling it won't be clear-cut.

[ripcity]

Who do you see winning the Floyd/Cotto/Williams/Mosley quadrangle to become our generation's equivalent of Ray Leonard?
If Mayweither beats Hatton, the winner of Cotto/Mosley and Willams it will be very hard to argue aginst him.

[surreal deal]

Omit the Tito part and i agree word for word!
and i agree with youre modifying of his opinion.:good
round robin tournament;whereby everyone fights everyone:
1.Williams(im surprised too,its just his style is awful for the other guys.His size/reach and punch output vs margo would have beaten the rest too.)
2.Cotto;on the up.
3.Moseley;will get old overnight but too strong for floyd.
4.Floyd;another surprise,but he's still too small for the division elite(thats NOT judah and baldo,linear or not).Obviously very talented,but would avoid these guys if this was real.Not a dig,just a statement of fact.

[the_what]

Cotto is the Welterweight King. And its only a matter of time until everybody realizes this.

Robinson, LaMotta, Leonard, Cotto

:yep

[Thread Stealer]

Cotto is the Welterweight King. And its only a matter of time until everybody realizes this.

Robinson, LaMotta, Leonard, Cotto

:yep

LaMotta was not a welterweight, although as a MW he beat quite a few WWs (not as many as Graziano though).

[the_what]

LaMotta was not a welterweight, although as a MW he beat quite a few WWs (not as many as Graziano though).

Touche.

[Relentless]

mosley easy, he jumped up 2 weight divisions to beat the king at welter.

[Relentless]

Tito Trinidad!!!!





FYI!!!!
Campas was 56-0 on fight night and was considered by MANY the next JCC so dont get it twisted. And Blocker was not walk in the park either....

tito left just before mosley got there, i wonder why:hey

[pryorgatti]

Tito Trinidad, Sugar Shane Mosley

[Jinx]

if PBF beats Mosley and Cotto he's the best welter of this generation...

[brooklyn1550]

The era of the mid to late 90s was great at WW. Unfortunately, no one really stood out as the best, and the fights were for the most part, let downs.

Pernell Whitaker vs. Oscar De La Hoya: Oscar wins a controversial decision.

Ike Quartey vs. Oscar De La Hoya: Oscar wins a controversial decision.

Felix Trinidad vs. Oscar De La Hoya: Tito wins a controversial decision.

Because of the inconclusive results of these big fights, it was tough to say who was the best. Tito had the longest reign at WW, but let's not act like his opposition was the toughest during his reign. His best opponents before 1999 were undefeated contenders at the time, but Oba Carr and Yori Boy Campas were still realtively untested. Tito beat a shot Maurice Blocker for the IBF belt. Pernell Whitaker wasn't the fighter he was 4 years earlier, let alone 8-10 years earlier when he was at his best weight class. And for the most part, people agree that Tito lost to Oscar, or got a draw at best.

The current WW division is a great one. As far as comparing to the late 70s and early 80s, no. But that's rare anyway. You had 4 all-time and second-tier greats in or near their prime. The division right now is great and we're having some excellent matchups. Boxing fans are used to whining, so I think we should appreciate and enjoy the division right now because it's a damn good one.

Time remains to be seen who will be the best WW of our generation, but I have a feeling it won't be clear-cut.

:good Great post...agree word for word

[Thread Stealer]

Tito Trinidad!!!!





FYI!!!!
Campas was 56-0 on fight night and was considered by MANY the next JCC so dont get it twisted. And Blocker was not walk in the park either....

Great records don't mean he was tested. He had a great record, but anyone who saw him fight knew he was not the next Chavez. Too slow and devoid of defense. Chavez rolled with and slipped punches 100000x times better than Campas. People always talk about "the next Chavez". There IS no next Chavez, damn it.

Blocker was shot. He had taken two horrendous beatings in the last couple years and it was clear he was ready to be taken.

[Thread Stealer]

tito left just before mosley got there, i wonder why:hey

Tito had been having weight problems at 147 for awhile. He even moved up to 154 in a title eliminator against Troy Waters a couple years earlier, but went back down to try to get a big money fight (DLH).