Any trainers out there? Advice request.

[The_Hammer]

Hey,
So I've been boxing for about two years and I've been pretty dedicated to it so I'm not hideously bad, and I have alot of sport experience and a good understanding of body mechanics and muscular/nervous systems.
I train hard to compete amateur, but my back is chronically injured. While I try to stay in shape, swimming to keep my cardio, competitive boxing training is often impossible for weeks at a time.
I took a summer job working at my gym, and all of the trainers there suggested I started training beginners, so now I have a few clients that I've been working with this week. It's all gone very well, but I'm "learning on the job" as it were with all this training stuff.
I was wonderring if there were any trainers here with some tips or tricks that I might find useful when I work with them. Thanks!

[Bazooka]

be more specific, basicly you want to teach what you have learned if you dont know something do not be afraid to seek advise which is what your doing now, if your having trouble working on something just ask someone in boxing usally most are willing to help.
However dont get in over your head know your limits, you can explore new ideas and such in sparring, but you want to make sure that you are paying full attention so that when mistakes pop up you can correct, them.
Dont allow them to spar just for the sake of sparring, look at what they are doing and correct their mistakes.

[The_Hammer]

Well, we work mitts mostly, so one thing I was wonderring was whether or not to do a round of offense and a round of defense to teach both respectively, or to mix the defense in with the offense work. Should I have him/her work a single combination for a whole round so he gets it perfected, or should I mix it up more so he gets used to spontinaity and stays interrested?

How do I teach angles, distance, timing, cutting off the ring before he's ready to spar?

Should I be telling him the reason he would use any combination or maneuver when I'm showing it to him or should I just show him what to do and let him figure it out?

Also, any drills that you find useful, things like the rope across the ring, the swinging slip bag, stuff like that would be really helpful because I don't want to just work mitts all the time.

At what point would you reccomend that a beginner boxer start training on his own on, say, the heavybag? Because he can only work with me so often and he wants to really improve, but I don't want him developing bad habits by himself (just like I did when I started hitting a heavybag w/out my trainer). So far I've told him toshadowbox, shadowbox, shadowbox and remember what I told him while he's doing it.

Should I be pushing him to do roadwork this early? I'm not sure because I always ran and was always on a running schedule regardless of boxing. Should I do conditioning work in our sessions or just reccomend him things to do on his own?

I'm just full of questions; thanks for any replies!

*the "he" refers to anybody I might be training, and I suppose the answers to some of these questions have differrent answers depending on individual needs, but I'm looking for more general guidelines

[boxbible]

Start from simple, building on it towards more complex...

Also, begin with the very basics ONLY... without the basics down pat, more advanced stuff will come off all wrong...

I've found that trying to teach the jab first is not the best way to go. Teaching to throw the straight right with proper rotation and bending of the front knee and locking upon impact always gets the interest of the trainee and because they feel that power, they feel more at ease with doing boring drills.

After the right hand, the natural follow-up is the left hook since the ending position of the right is the start of the left hook. Make sure that they "come back" with the left hook, meaning they don't throw it still going forward. The end of the left hook should put your balance back on the right leg ready to unload another right.


Next, I teach the two slips. Slipping a left hook, and then slipping a right. If they have gotten the right hand and the left hook down pat, it is very easy to learn the slips becasue its the same moves as throwing those two punches, except you keep your hands in a parrying position instead of throwing them. And each slip then puts you in a punching position.

Only after these have been learned do I introduce the jab with the explicit explanation that the jab is to set up these other moves. It's NOT a power punch and shouldn't be thrown with mean intentions. That's what happens when a trainee starts off learning the jab... they put too much effort into throwing it hard and end up throwing all wrong with the upper body instead of just stepping in with the front foot followed by the back foot and keeping the upper body always balanced in the middle.

After learning to step in with the jab, then its two jabs (with two steps), and then three... and four... all the way to ten... each with a step. Then its step out time. One step back... two steps back... three... all the way to ten.

After that, its jab-right hand... two jabs-right hand... three jabs-right hand... all the way to ten... This is the most beneficial part of a beginners training. Then its jab-slip to the left and jab-slip to the right. Thern you can add counter punches after the slips.

Now you have a novice who has the mechanics to throw multiple jabs, step in and out, throw rights off the jabs, slip off the jab and counter after slipping.

It's a simple building block process with lots of repetetion but having a steady progression of complexity keeps the fighter interested instead of starting off with some complex move that they don't have a clue how to execute properly and get discouraged.

[boxon123]

test

[viktorkrupp]

BOXBIBLE makes a very good point, I have never thought of. I always started with the jab, now I'm going to try it with the right first.

I also recomend you work on stance and movement, too many people have to learn to punch all over again when they are on the move.

[Youngblood]

Go get certified. That's one good step.

[Bazooka]

Go get certified. That's one good step.
get a license to coach amateurs