Congrats to Macarinelli, but Mbaye-Rees stunk of a fix to me...

[Dunky McCafferty]

Come on, what the fuck was that fight all about? round after round M'baye stood within range of Rees, but wouldnt even throw a jab. He would just stand there, giving Rees a rest while he got his breath back, & even letting Rees showboat for seconds at a time... The amount of times I thought M'Baye could have thrown some leather whilst out of Rees range but just stood there, I hate to say it but it was dodgy as fuck.

In all my years posting here I have never proclaimed a fight to be rigged, but that one looked fixed in my eyes. Something just wasnt right about that fight. Even M'Bayes cornermen werent giving a shit along with the fighter himself, & at the end M'baye was walking around quite happy:huh

maybe I am wrong, but that was one STRANGE fight. Opinions?

[faisal]

i was kinda shocked about how a fat little shite like rees managed to make Mbaye look like an ameture.

[Max Molyneux]

Rees has a simular physique to Pryce It's not dry but It's good and In shape.

[AllyT]

Come on, what the fuck was that fight all about? round after round M'baye stood within range of Rees, but wouldnt even throw a jab. He would just stand there, giving Rees a rest while he got his breath back, & even letting Rees showboat for seconds at a time... The amount of times I thought M'Baye could have thrown some leather whilst out of Rees range but just stood there, I hate to say it but it was dodgy as fuck.

In all my years posting here I have never proclaimed a fight to be rigged, but that one looked fixed in my eyes. Something just wasnt right about that fight. Even M'Bayes cornermen werent giving a shit along with the fighter himself, & at the end M'baye was walking around quite happy:huh

maybe I am wrong, but that was one STRANGE fight. Opinions?

I understand what you are saying but once you see the wisdom of Enzo Calzaghe all becomes clear. He is the master

[Dunky McCafferty]

Rees has a simular physique to Pryce It's not dry but It's good and In shape.

Didnt you wonder though sometimes max why M'baye would just stand there, whilst he was in range of the much smaller short armed Rees & not throw anything round after round? I couldnt get my head around it, especially as it wasnt a fast paced fight as Rees was gassed after about 8 rounds...

[PrideOfWales]

Didnt you wonder though sometimes max why M'baye would just stand there, whilst he was in range of the much smaller short armed Rees & not throw anything round after round? I couldnt get my head around it, especially as it wasnt a fast paced fight as Rees was gassed after about 8 rounds...

M'Baye is a lazy fucker, did you see his last fight? M'Baye also tried to unload later in the fight - there was definite intent in those punches in the last few rounds. It wasn't a fix.

[Max Molyneux]

Didnt you wonder though sometimes max why M'baye would just stand there, whilst he was in range of the much smaller short armed Rees & not throw anything round after round? I couldnt get my head around it, especially as it wasnt a fast paced fight as Rees was gassed after about 8 rounds...

I agree It was strange that Rees got away with Roy Jones like showboating.

[nulty]

Come on, what the fuck was that fight all about? round after round M'baye stood within range of Rees, but wouldnt even throw a jab. He would just stand there, giving Rees a rest while he got his breath back, & even letting Rees showboat for seconds at a time... The amount of times I thought M'Baye could have thrown some leather whilst out of Rees range but just stood there, I hate to say it but it was dodgy as fuck.

In all my years posting here I have never proclaimed a fight to be rigged, but that one looked fixed in my eyes. Something just wasnt right about that fight. Even M'Bayes cornermen werent giving a shit along with the fighter himself, & at the end M'baye was walking around quite happy:huh

maybe I am wrong, but that was one STRANGE fight. Opinions?

Like I said in another thread, if I were one for conspiracy theories I'd be asking questions as to why a number of members of team Khan were at ringside and looking very smug. Given that it is known that Amir will wind up at 140 sooner or later, and he has speed and reach advantages over Gavin and of course Gavin isn't a puncher at 140. These quotes strike me "I will be a world champion at 21", "I trust Frank to help me get to were I want to be"

[The Exile]

Didnt you wonder though sometimes max why M'baye would just stand there, whilst he was in range of the much smaller short armed Rees & not throw anything round after round? I couldnt get my head around it, especially as it wasnt a fast paced fight as Rees was gassed after about 8 rounds...




Me and my mates watched this and my mates who only really follow thE big names in boxing could not get over the fact that Mbaye was a world champ after that performance, but to be honest he looked crap in his last fight which was quite controversial if i remember - he looked shit to be honest and didnt even seem to care thet he had just lost his title :-(

I agree with one of the other posters who thought Rees looked not in the best of shape, fair enough he got the unexpected win but i actually thought he looked a bit soft around the edges especially for the weight but hey he's the new world champ of a legitimate title so fair play and ALL THE BEST :good

[rooq]

Come on, what the fuck was that fight all about? round after round M'baye stood within range of Rees, but wouldnt even throw a jab. He would just stand there, giving Rees a rest while he got his breath back, & even letting Rees showboat for seconds at a time... The amount of times I thought M'Baye could have thrown some leather whilst out of Rees range but just stood there, I hate to say it but it was dodgy as fuck.

In all my years posting here I have never proclaimed a fight to be rigged, but that one looked fixed in my eyes. Something just wasnt right about that fight. Even M'Bayes cornermen werent giving a shit along with the fighter himself, & at the end M'baye was walking around quite happy:huh

maybe I am wrong, but that was one STRANGE fight. Opinions?

i'm glad you started this thread...i was thinking the same thing during the fight. up until the last couple of rounds mbaye wasn't even trying to use his considerable size and power advantage. the whole situation with someone not even ranked in the wba top 15 lww's getting a title shot and then winning against someone not wanting to fight looks dodgy as fuck.

i'm not saying the fight was definitely fixed cos i don't want to take any credit away from Rees who did well, but lets see who his first defence is against. i sniff a ****** scheme to move khan up to lww so he can win a world title by the time he's 21.

[rooq]

Like I said in another thread, if I were one for conspiracy theories I'd be asking questions as to why a number of members of team Khan were at ringside and looking very smug. Given that it is known that Amir will wind up at 140 sooner or later, and he has speed and reach advantages over Gavin and of course Gavin isn't a puncher at 140. These quotes strike me "I will be a world champion at 21", "I trust Frank to help me get to were I want to be"

yes...i noticed that. i thought originally it was because mbaye was training at oliver harrisons gym, but he had some french guys in his corner. i wonder how much the wba officials were paid off to sanction this fight...if its all part of the grand khan money-making scheme, there could be a potentially high return for ******.

hmmm...but on the other hand, maybe the fight was not fixed and mbaye is just shit and rees fought a great fight. we'll have to look out for any FW announcements over the next couple of months.

[SevenSamurai]

This was not a fix, give Rees some credit for his win!!!!!!

M'Baye has shown this side to his game before, he is a lazy fighter and I think in this fight he came in not motivated and could not go up a gear.

[nufc16]

thought the same myself. and if you look back at the fight, im certain at the end of the rounds, M'Baye when sat in his corner, kept looking over in ******s direction. If you are getting beat that badly, why the fuck would you be looking to the crowd, you'd be completely fixed on what your cornermen are saying.

Think ****** himself cottoned on that it was looking too obvious as he left towards the end of the fight. Though then again he probably just went to wish macca well, but still, if your fighter is about to win a world title, you'd stay till the end surely?

M'Baye has not exactly been the most marketable world champion, while im sure he could make a mint off of a reformed rogue welshman with an army of vociferous fans.

[Shev]

It was the fact that the jab wasn't even being remotely used by M'Baye that troubled me, even at the end M'Baye seemed hesitant to engage or anything. Would you put it past ****** to fix a fight, I wouldn't anyway.

[Sundance]

Was no fix. The guy was just not up to it. Credit to Rees, he doesn't have a big punch, but he clearly out worked the guy and deserved the win.

[SevenSamurai]

It was the fact that the jab wasn't even being remotely used by M'Baye that troubled me, even at the end M'Baye seemed hesitant to engage or anything. Would you put it past ****** to fix a fight, I wouldn't anyway.


Why was M'Baye constantly trying to nail Rees with the right hand and hard right hands, if he was going to throw a fight he would not be trying to take Rees head off now would he?

Give Rees some credit for his win, this bull is tarnishing his win.

[elias]

M'baye is just a crazy fucker. Bit like Danny Williams.

[Shev]

It may or may not have been but there's really no answer for one of the biggest non efforts in a title fight since Tarver fought Hopkins. I don't think being lazy or unmotivated cuts it, possibly overtrained if anything.

[Ilesey]

It was NOT a fix. :patsch

Congratulations to Rees on a career best win.

[scurlaruntings]

That was by far the most pathetic fight iv ever seen. M`baye is a world class operator and iv seen him many a time on Eurosport.Theres no way in a million years a domestic bust like Ree`s should have won a fight like that.M`baye simply did nothing.It was the most disgusting performance iv ever seen.And if the fix wasnt in ****** should drop him immediately.Whats even worse was that this was for one of the 3 major world titles.That is utterly shambolic.Ree`s isnt even remotely close to world class.As soon as he gets in the ring with a REAL world title operator he gets canned.Ree`s has no business at 140 and should have stayed at featherweight.His record although padded and mildy impressive as he is unbeaten has ZERO names on it.I dont believe his even contested a domestic title?!?!?!?

[LeedsLad]

As someone said, is his last fight M'Baye looked equally bad. Plus at the end of the fight it was obvious M'Baye was trying to take Rees out. I think it was a case of M'Baye underestimating Rees, and also because Rees had never done 12 rounds he probably thought he could wait till Gavin ran out of steam, and just waited too long.

[LeedsLad]

That was by far the most pathetic fight iv ever seen. M`baye is a world class operator and iv seen him many a time on Eurosport.Theres no way in a million years a domestic bust like Ree`s should have won a fight like that.M`baye simply did nothing.It was the most disgusting performance iv ever seen.And if the fix wasnt in ****** should drop him immediately.Whats even worse was that this was for one of the 3 major world titles.That is utterly shambolic.Ree`s isnt even remotely close to world class.As soon as he gets in the ring with a REAL world title operator he gets canned.Ree`s has no business at 140 and should have stayed at featherweight.His record although padded and mildy impressive as he is unbeaten has ZERO names on it.I dont believe his even contested a domestic title?!?!?!?

The WBA have pulled this shit loads lately, Bumdine and Sturm both fought nobodies in their recent defenses. The funniest thing is, not only had Rees never fought for a domestic title, he had never fought at 140 or fought a 12 round fight. Its really strange how someone who has never fought a name fighter, never fought for a domestic title and never fought at 140 mysteriously gets a world title shot:?

[nufc16]

m'bayes last fight was kotelnik though, a fringe world class operator himself, who few people look good against.

[stake501]

I have a vision

"And the the New WBA Light Welterweight Champion of the World.....Amir Khan"

Stinks doesnt it

[UndisputedUK]

I predicted this a while back. (Khan to fight Rees) :nono

Rees fought the fight of his life and what particularly impressed me and others around me was the hand speed, work rate and will to win. M'aye clearly had a hard time hitting Rees and the Calzaghe gameplan worked a treat. :good

We have to be realistic here, Rees is the WBA champion of the world.

I would be even more surprised if Rees manages to win his next fight.

Who next??

Witter - Unification
Hatton
Khan

If I was his team I would be chasing one of the BIG money fights above and not the mandatory against Kotelnik.

[Top Dog]

Not, not a fix, the dude was over-rated anyway, he was shite i n his last fight as well. Well done to Rees, he gave him all the trouble he could handle. Mbaye, looked disheartened after 4 rounds and I knew it was only a case of keeping it going and Rees would be champ, must admit thought Rees would run out of steam and get caught late on, all credit to the wee man. Maybe now Calzaghe will get some credit for producing good fighters, the guys been getting stick from certain parties for years about his lack of experience, just goes to show you. Well done the Welsh boys:thumbsup ****** will be loving it now, whats the chance of Rees v Khan, he will see it an easy win for Khan but you never know cause Rees is a speedy wee guy, and he slips punches really well. I FUCKIN LOVED IT

[micky]

It did look very strange indeed, he simply could not or would not
throw anything menacing at Rees and whilst you can give credit to Gavin for his performance, that was not a performance worthy of an area champ from M'Baye, let alone a world champ

Will throw my two penneth in re conspiracy, how about this one

Rematch in Wales on the undercard of Calzaghe/Kessler in November.
This will sell now as for a proper world title, will be reasonably cheap to finance, revenge angle for M'Baye and good ticket sales for another Welshman on the bill.

And there's more

Fwank keeps the title, for either Khan to fight the winner say April next year, or as mentioned a nice easy one for Ricky at some stage.

Fun this

Micky

[Betty Swollocks]

Like I said in another thread, if I were one for conspiracy theories I'd be asking questions as to why a number of members of team Khan were at ringside and looking very smug. Given that it is known that Amir will wind up at 140 sooner or later, and he has speed and reach advantages over Gavin and of course Gavin isn't a puncher at 140. These quotes strike me "I will be a world champion at 21", "I trust Frank to help me get to were I want to be"

I haven't seen the fight but that sounds like a sound theory, I'll go with that. Look for Rees to fight a couple of set-ups then Khan-Rees will be announced by Fwank.

[UndisputedUK]

Some nice stand aside money to keep Kotelnik away one thinks. :blood

[ron u.k.]

I haven't seen the fight but that sounds like a sound theory, I'll go with that. Look for Rees to fight a couple of set-ups then Khan-Rees will be announced by Fwank.my word i'm astonished you didn't pick rees to beat hatton in his next fight and accuse hatton of ducking him somewhere along the line!

[The taff]

Not, not a fix, the dude was over-rated anyway, he was shite i n his last fight as well. Well done to Rees, he gave him all the trouble he could handle. Mbaye, looked disheartened after 4 rounds and I knew it was only a case of keeping it going and Rees would be champ, must admit thought Rees would run out of steam and get caught late on, all credit to the wee man. Maybe now Calzaghe will get some credit for producing good fighters, the guys been getting stick from certain parties for years about his lack of experience, just goes to show you. Well done the Welsh boys:thumbsup ****** will be loving it now, whats the chance of Rees v Khan, he will see it an easy win for Khan but you never know cause Rees is a speedy wee guy, and he slips punches really well. I FUCKIN LOVED IT

Totally agree with the above, it was no fix. Mbaye did a similar thing in has last fight, just he was even worse in this one. I think REES should get a bit of credit, he won fair and square.

[rooq]

Totally agree with the above, it was no fix. Mbaye did a similar thing in has last fight, just he was even worse in this one. I think REES should get a bit of credit, he won fair and square.

i do give rees credit, even though something looks a little dodgy. the fellas done well. first 12 rounder, first fight at lww and now he's the WBA champion of that division.

he did what he had to do with the fighter in front of him...its not his fault if anyone else had a different agenda and if mbaye wasn't coming to win.

but does anyone seriously think he would be able to compete with a real lightwelterweight out there? i don't just mean witter or hatton, but even the top domestic lww's like lynes or bami?

we'll see who he faces in his first couple of defences...no disrespect to Rees, but i do smell an overlaying plot here.

[Max Molyneux]

Kotelnik's the WBA No 1 contender.

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He's decent but he barely does a thing early and mostly covers up and puts on little pressure like with M'Baye and Witter and he's slower too.

[micky]

Kotelnik's the WBA No 1 contender.

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He's decent but he barely does a thing early and mostly covers up and puts on little pressure like with M'Baye and Witter and he's slower too.

Happy to go on record now that if Rees fights Kotelnik he will get beat comfortably unless the judges are told otherwise.

The Ukranian is an underated boxer and his power whilst not that impressive against the top guys would in my opinion be too much for Rees. Even if not a stoppage, cannot see Rees winning 6 rounds against the German based fighter. If Kotelnik does step aside I think we have our answer to this ongoing debate.

If not its

Kotelnik by ko around the 7th

Micky

[Max Molyneux]

He may win, but he's not that underrated.

He lost clearly to Witter and lost and drew to M'Baye.

His power may win him the belt but he's very slow.

[GOTTIcsc]

M'Baye is a lazy fucker, did you see his last fight? M'Baye also tried to unload later in the fight - there was definite intent in those punches in the last few rounds. It wasn't a fix.

Thats what i thought,the guy just didnt look interested in the fight.Fare play to the wee man he done his job and got a deserved victory.

[micky]

He may win, but he's not that underrated.

He lost clearly to Witter and lost and drew to M'Baye.

His power may win him the belt but he's very slow.

We will have to agree to differ on that Max, not sure he is that slow but can see where you are coming from, he is for me a bit of a perfectionist and sometimes thinks too much and looks to land quality shots whilst not taking much risk, not the most exciting I agree but fairly effective at times and would certainly be against Rees.

Thought the Witter fight was a lot closer than yourself and actually agreed with the two judges who gave it just by the one round to Witter if memory serves, although he did lose that fight as you correctly say.

Thought he won the second M'Baye fight, did not see the first one.

Be very interesting to see what Fwank and Gavin do for there first defence, I am going for M'Baye on Nov 3rd Calzaghe bill if they can pay Kotelnik enough to stop him demanding the match, but could his team perhaps argue a mandatory as first defence is a bit much.

Micky

[Shev]

******'s gonna feed him to Khan to keep the hype train going. 26 wins with 0 ko's and a world title, this fella is made for khan.

[Max Molyneux]

Errm Rees has 13 Ko's.

[Shev]

Yeah he does have 13 ko's boxingtalk said he had 0 ko's, should have checked boxrec instead. As long as more fighters from the Uk and Ireland get belts I don't really care.

[dwilson]

Maybe M'Baye was just a another sub par boxer who got his chance because of Frank ******. If he was a Brit hewould have been taken the piss out of long ago. Cant take anything away from Ree's he won the fight and will get some credibility now. Cant hide the fact that M'Baye is poor though, wow he managed a win vs Kotelink.

[scurlaruntings]

****** took M`baye on to get back at Hatton as he was the mandatory for the WBA.

[Taffyy]

Look................Mbaye was never a world class fighter for starters but all this conspiracy shit is really taking the shine of Gavins achievment.........I know Gavin & I thought it was all a bit too much going up a weight & then a world title shot...............But fuck me he proved myself & ALOT of other people wrong & all credit to him.......M'Baye thought he just had to show up & realised a bit to late he actually had to do something............Oh & FAISAL.......I'd really like to hear you direspect him like you did in your thread to his face ya sack of shite..............

[jc]

Dont let Mbaye poor/pathetic performance take away from Rees' win. nobody knew how good Rees is and in fact we still dont know, but Mabye definately was trying for the KO late on. I dont see any fix.

What I saw was a guy who clearly wasnt motivated for the fight, who had been out fo the ring for a hell of a long time and didnt expect Rees to be as competitive as he was. Also he wasnt a very good champion to begin with. Yes ofcourse the other champion would probably KO Rees, but thats not the point, the point is nobody thought he could beat Mbaye for the WBA title and he did! FAIR AND SQUARE!

[jc]

Ill bet you 50 British POUNDS STERLING...thats roughly 5 million Aussie dollars...
jc ill bet ya kessler beats calzaghe

[UKITAZ]

Im glad Rees won .. Im mates with Andrei Kotelnik who boxes for Universum. He's mandatory challenger (after a draw with Mbaye when he got robbed !) and Rees now has 90 days to fight him . He'll take Rees to school !

[sean]

Im glad Rees won .. Im mates with Andrei Kotelnik who boxes for Universum. He's mandatory challenger (after a draw with Mbaye when he got robbed !) and Rees now has 90 days to fight him . He'll take Rees to school !

that`s all right.
last week a copper took rees home to his mum, as he suspected rees of playing truant.