The Michael "The Great" Katsidis EXPRESS!!!

[Chileno606]

choooo chooooooooooo :patsch :lol::lol:


This guy is the next BLOOD N GUTTS WARRIOR :happy:happy

[texman]

Great display of courage and guts

[hitman_hatton1]

definitely the new gatti. :yep

the earl fight was terrific stuff.

tons of heart and cut prone.

who cares if he's too crude. :hey

[joe33]

Yeah fun guy to watch,lays his whole soul on the line,thats why i get annoyed at people who ues to slag gatti off,as being a C class fighter(which i dont think he was),who gives a shit,guys like him and now katsidis are always gonna draw a huge crowd because there FUN AS HELL to watch,great stuff tonight.

[Morrissey]

what were the scores?

[hitman_hatton1]

Was there a clash of heads???

nady adjudged the cut over his left eye as a clash of heads.

not the damage below it though.

[gold_gloves]

my favourite current fighter, as an aussie ive been watching him for years and his only gotten better and better..

Katsidis is going to be a fucking champion

[El Bombasto]

Kellerman and Lampley are still talking about this guy

[JETSKI]

Whats this guy look like? And what weight is he?:huh

[The Whaler]

Whats this guy look like? And what weight is he?:huh

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[C.J.Rock]

Katsidis needs to get a defence he was lucky to survive tonight had the other boxed him he'd have won easy

[brooklyn1550]

He gets hit too much, but he is one TOUGH kid. He has great power and a great chin - shades of Ray Mancini there if he can improve.

[teetop]

I'm on board!

[johnco]

dont get excited too much.... i respect him but he fought a class c+ fighter. thats all.

[sues2nd]

choooo chooooooooooo :patsch :lol::lol:


This guy is the next BLOOD N GUTTS WARRIOR :happy:happy

I FUCKIN LOVE THIS GUY!!!!

Definately won me over. Just a warrior!!!

[amy]

I'm on board!! Woo hoo.

I will give his opponent credit though, he was good too. He abandoned his jab though which cost him a few rounds that he could have had.

[Toopretty]

Now I regret myself saying australia has a weak crop of boxer. I am eating my words publicly I like the K-dude. He is a little off with his crazy ring entrance but in that ring..he is non stop action..blood guts..eyeballs falling out...But aint he greek..???? HE IS THE NEW GATTI WITH BETTER SKILLS AND GREAT TIMING..THE PINOY DUDE HAD A HELL OF A CHIN B/C THAT FIRST KNOCKDOWN I THOUGHT THAT WAS A KNOCKOUT PUNCH... man the little guys rule boxing.....147 and down for me ..fuck the rest.....the little guys hit harder too...lol

[PacDbest]

After Pac beat MAB & JMM again. What do you think is Katsidis Chance against Pac at 135????

[TamaTonga]

most of hes cuts from head butt tho,but yeah aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi yeah baby

[Chileno606]

Amonso abandoned his jab because he was just EATING straight rights over it, AND getting pounded with hooks to the body so he had to lower his hand to block and not eat so much leather lol. Amonsot is only 21 though...he looked good for his age and will get better no doubt.

[Luzon]

most of hes cuts from head butt tho,but yeah aussie aussie aussie oi oi oi yeah baby


His eye was already messed up before Nady called the headbutt. The Majority of the damage were caused by punches. Awsome performance though. Tons of heart. Can't wait for Katsidis to fight Diaz, that would be really good.

[bulakenyo]

Amonsot hospitalized after fight
td.yspwidearticlebody { font-size: 13.5px; }By Kevin Iole ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Yahoo! Sports
July 21, 2007


LAS VEGAS -- Lightweight boxer Czar Amonsot suffered a bleed on his brain Saturday following his 12-round loss to Michael Katsidis for the WBO interim lightweight title.
Ringside physician Jeff Davidson was concerned by the head blows Amonsot took from Katsidis in the rousing affair and ordered him sent to the hospital for a neurological examination.
Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada Athletic Commission, said doctors discovered a small subdural hematoma. He said it was not expected to be life threatening, but said Amonsot's career is probably over.
Amonsot, 21, who was knocked down once in the second and again in the 10th, is 18-3-1.

[Chert]

katsidis is a good, blood and guts fighter in the mould of gatti... but like gatti, he will fall when fighting the elites and best of his weight division like juan diaz and casamayor.

[Chileno606]

Amonsot hospitalized after fight
td.yspwidearticlebody { font-size: 13.5px; }By Kevin Iole ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Yahoo! Sports
July 21, 2007


LAS VEGAS -- Lightweight boxer Czar Amonsot suffered a bleed on his brain Saturday following his 12-round loss to Michael Katsidis for the WBO interim lightweight title.
Ringside physician Jeff Davidson was concerned by the head blows Amonsot took from Katsidis in the rousing affair and ordered him sent to the hospital for a neurological examination.
Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada Athletic Commission, said doctors discovered a small subdural hematoma. He said it was not expected to be life threatening, but said Amonsot's career is probably over.
Amonsot, 21, who was knocked down once in the second and again in the 10th, is 18-3-1.

:-(:-(:-(:-(:-( that just pisses me off, hes too young for this shit :twisted: hope he comes back

[Chileno606]

katsidis is a good, blood and guts fighter in the mould of gatti... but like gatti, he will fall when fighting the elites and best of his weight division like juan diaz and casamayor.
If he stays away from bad style matchups and elite boxers, he retires a rich man.:deal Hes a true showman and a joy to watch.

[Chert]

If he stays away from bad style matchups and elite boxers, he retires a rich man.:deal Hes a true showman and a joy to watch.
not that rich though as the BIG money comes from fighting the elites and the best of his division. he'll also be possibly labelled a "ducker" if he does this. gatti wasn't ever labelled a ducker.

[wangman]

not that rich though as the BIG money comes from fighting the elites and the best of his division. he'll also be possibly labelled a "ducker" if he does this. gatti wasn't ever labelled a ducker.

Katsidis aint going to be a ducker either - on his website it said juan diaz and kat have both agreed to one more fight each before they meet.

[Chert]

Katsidis aint going to be a ducker either - on his website it said juan diaz and kat have both agreed to one more fight each before they meet.
there you go... if this fight pushes through no matter the result, katsidis proves that he is definitely boxing's NEW blood and guts warrior just like gatti. :good

[MrSmall]

Jesus Christ those cuts are horrible!

[PIPO23]

Diaz will derail this train.

[Napuis]

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Pictures of Katsidis ... he looks like a loser here...

Jesus Christ those cuts are bad.

He's my favourite boxer...only a pity he's an Aussie and not British.

The way he fought against Graham Earl was truly astonishing...I was hid behind the couch thinking Earl was going out in a body bag. Hope he wins major titles.

[BoppaZoo]

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Pictures of Katsidis ... he looks like a loser here...how can you lose when you drop the other guy twice in the fight. and now they say Amosot has brain bleed.

[Snorkel]

It's funny how the Aussies were telling us Brits how good he was before the Earl fight. After watching that we all jumped aboard in agreement trying to convince the American's. It seems total world domination's just around the corner for the man.

[crash]

and at the end of the day he keeps winning,and giveing fans there moneys worth,,,go rocky

[BigEars]

I was impressed against Earl ,but did see he has his limitations , notably he doesn't like that unorthodox punch........the jab . Even against Earl he got outboxed in the 5th(Earl was pulled out after this round due to the amount of hard shots he took) and got hit with quite a lot of jabs .

But anyway Katsidis is great to watch and as people are saying he's the new blood and guts warrior .

Really sorry to hear that about Czar :-( , the young man took so many hellacious punches .

[psychopath]

choooo chooooooooooo :patsch :lol::lol:


This guy is the next BLOOD N GUTTS WARRIOR :happy:happy

Yeah BLOOD and GUTs he is but I'm not impressed with his skills. He was way too open and hittable. "Baby Bull" Diaz would stop this guy.

But I have to admit, he is a very exciting fighter to watch. :yep

[deram]

Katsidis is good, but...that guy must have had something on his gloves to make such cuts.

Those cuts could make Katsidis' face much much easier in future fights.

[Spitfire7]

Save my ticket, but am not yet convinced on Rocky Katsidis. Amonsot was supposed to be fodder to hype his American debut, and should be ran over quick. This Amonsot kid however put on a gallant show, even suffering haematoma on the process, never giving up still and even messing Rocky's face horribly. This little Flip kids are very underrated yet had tons of heart.

Congratulations on the win though if Katsi fights crudely like that, he MAY get stopped on his tracks with the elites, ie. Casa & Torito. A couple more fights would be good for him before he faces the elite.

[dwilson]

Great warrior but too crude skills to really take it to the best. Can see him in some amazing top class action in the future,.

[aliwasthegreatest]

amonsat had two major flaws in his actions last night. he would stop using the right hook when it would land almost every time thrown especially behind the uppercut. and two when he would jab he at would would drop his left, allowing himself to be countered easily by katsidis' right. later he pulled BACK the left after throwing the jab which STILL allowed him to be countered by the right.

[unitas]

choooo chooooooooooo :patsch :lol::lol:


This guy is the next BLOOD N GUTTS WARRIOR :happy:happy

is that tattoo real on katsidis back???

anyway, he sure is fun to watch. but i want to see him fight a world class fellow..............let him face juan diaz. not unkown asians.

[the mean machine]

Can't help but being on this train, some people liken him to a Rocky, he's more like the Terminator and he'll be back.

[BOGART]

I was looking foward to seeing Katsidis for the first time, in fact him being on the card is what convinced me to order the ppv since I was on the fence with this one. He did not disappoint. Obviously he needs to work on his defense, a lot. He also needs to know that is o.k to use a jab when working your way inside. However, even with those flaws, he is a handful for anyone in the division. If he improves on a few things then watchout because the guy is a monster in the ring. I keep hearing/reading about him being the new Gatti and I think that is a very good comparison, Katsidis is exciting.

I'd love to see him in the ring with Juan Diaz, David Diaz,Kid Diamond, or Jose Santa Cruz. Those are absolute wars that he could win as well (Juan Diaz would be the favorite though). Someone like Julio Diaz or Casamayor might be too good of boxers for Katsidis right now. But put him in with someone who is willing to engage, then wow. Too bad his fight with Guzman never came off.

[BeeGee]

First time i heard of or saw Kadsidis fight. The man is full of heart and determination and will be exciting to watch for years to come. I think a good boxer can, however, dominate him. Skills r a little raw still but none the less he did a great job.

[BigEars]

is that tattoo real on katsidis back???

anyway, he sure is fun to watch. but i want to see him fight a world class fellow..............let him face juan diaz. not unkown asians.
Ya it's real , he got it after the Earl fight .

Katsidis' team is in talks with Juan Diaz's , and if that were to come off it'd be something special . Baby Bull would probably stand and trade with him too............

[Dr Gonzo]

im on the express for sure! Gatti retires and the heir apparent steps up to the throne

[04eta]

I He also needs to know that is o.k to use a jab when working your way inside.

He does have a decent jab and it was frustrating that he didn't use it at all. I think he would have wore a lot less leather if he had of established his jab first.

[theunderdog]

I AM ON BOARD THIS TRAIN HES ONE OF MY FAV FIGHTERS KATSIDIS WILL BE KING OF THE DIVISON :happy:

so you'll think he'll beat casamayor? i think he'll have a hard time against juan diaz ad will have little or no chance against joel. but still, great performance from katsidis. lots of room for improvement though

[Dr Gonzo]

him and the baby bull will be like gatti vs ward

[BOGART]

He does have a decent jab and it was frustrating that he didn't use it at all. I think he would have wore a lot less leather if he had of established his jab first.

This was the only fight I saw of his so I guess he could have used his jab more in the past. You're right, if he would have used that jab more against Almosot than he could have saved his face a lot of damage. If he does have a decent jab he'll need it against the better guys in the division. He has a lot of offensive tools but needs to work them off the jab more.

[MSTR]

Save my ticket, but am not yet convinced on Rocky Katsidis. Amonsot was supposed to be fodder to hype his American debut, and should be ran over quick. This Amonsot kid however put on a gallant show, even suffering haematoma on the process, never giving up still and even messing Rocky's face horribly. This little Flip kids are very underrated yet had tons of heart.

Congratulations on the win though if Katsi fights crudely like that, he MAY get stopped on his tracks with the elites, ie. Casa & Torito. A couple more fights would be good for him before he faces the elite.
Amonsot was trained by Freddie Roach. He was no bum like people would have you believe. His one loss was a lucky punch KO loss where he didn't prepare or have proper training for the fight. I knew just from watching footage that if Amonsot came out focused he would be tough to overcome. I think that Diaz will beat Kat, but it won't be a blow out like some are making out. If this fight gets made it will be the FOTY no question.

[T.C.W]

I'm on this express, the kid is from Queensland as well.

[Jason997]

Exciting fighter! I want Juan Diaz to destroy him but otherwise I wish him luck. With a style like his I hope he doesn't get himself hurt. A guy can't take too many beatings like the one he took last night.

- Jason

[Chileno606]

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Some of Katsidis flaws were exposed in this fight...
No they werent you sore loser. No one ever said Katsidis was a Sugar Ray :nono

[Chileno606]

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Kat is a tough guy to endure a beating like this ...

He didnt take a beating. Amonsot is the one with a blood clot in his brain

[ipswich express]

"The fighting pride of Queensland!!"

[BoppaZoo]

Most of us Aussies have been on board a while now.

but i say if Rocky can learn a bit of defense from say a defensive expert like Floyd Mayweather Sr.

LOOKOUT. But hey theres nothing wrong with being the next Gatti. Boxing needs Katsidis more than we think.

[kel]

Rocky is 26 at the moment, fighting like that i can see him being around too long after 30.

I'm aboard the Queensland Express :good

[fists of fury]

The Amonsot fight was my first exposure to 'the great' Katsidis and I came away extremely impressed.
That Amonsot kid has some unreal toughness and heart though, eh? Both guys gave us a thrilling fight, and I think power made the difference in the end.
You have to worry about Katsidis' face holding up in future bouts but blood and thunder warriors like him aren't around much these days, and this kd could be a major draw in the future.
Katsidis has the intangibles to reach the top. A bit more refinement in other areas is needed, but hopefully this will come in time.

[Kegsy]

Great win for Katsidis.
I was on the bandwagon a couple years ago now.
Before he beat another exciting Philipino in Ranee Ganoy.

[BoppaZoo]

if a class c+ fighter can do this to Katsidis, how does a class b or class a fighter will fare against Kats?

[Only registered and activated users can see links] if Czar learnt to box with his hands instead of his head. Maybe Katsidis would look different.

[albaneze]

Katsidis should lookout for himself much more. Needs to improve his defense and not let himself too much exposed, this might become a problem while fighting with B or A level fighters.
He is a good fighter though. And whats all this Queersland Express Thing? Just Joking.

[IOANNIS]

Go Katsidis!!!!

[psychopath]

Don't be over impressed folks . . . he is lucky to escape and won this fight. He got caught with a lot solid punches . . . it so happens that Amonsot cannot ship gear to a higher level and finish him off thus the result . . . but if he is going to face an opponent like Juan Diaz . . . he won't survive it like this one.

[BoppaZoo]

Don't be over impressed folks . . . he is lucky to escape and won this fight. He got caught with a lot solid punches . . . it so happens that Amonsot cannot ship gear to a higher level and finish him off thus the result . . . but if he is going to face an opponent like Juan Diaz . . . he won't survive it like this one.This post is so laughable.

Amonsot down in the 2nd and 10th round. Amonsot has a brain bleed yet Katsidis got lucky.

Yep he really is lucky.That Katsidis kid sure isnt any good at boxing.:rofl

[theunderdog]

but seriously, why did the announcer not call him by his name? the great katsidis and katsidis the great were what i heard in the introduction and the announcement of the winner. the great katsidis doesn't sound that nice

[psychopath]

This post is so laughable.

Amonsot down in the 2nd and 10th round. Amonsot has a brain bleed yet Katsidis got lucky.

Yep he really is lucky.That Katsidis kid sure isnt any good at boxing.:rofl

That was a good fight dude. I'm not saying that Kat is not good in boxing my point is if that was somebody who could follow up on solid hits then Kat could have been KDed too. The problem is Amonsot had nothing left and had no killer instinct.

Laughable . . . because you're getting the wrong message. :yep

[BoppaZoo]

That was a good fight dude. I'm not saying that Kat is not good in boxing my point is if that was somebody who could follow up on solid hits then Kat could have been KDed too. The problem is Amonsot had nothing left and had no killer instinct.

Laughable . . . because you're getting the wrong message. :yepi know what you mean. ive heard it for the last 2 days now.

if Katsidis fights a pure boxer like Juan Diaz,Joan Guzman or Casamayor he is going to lose.

but i say if he turns it into a slugfest like he does every fight.
i just wonder how Guzman,Diaz or Casamayor would go trying to keep up with Katsidis toe 2 toe style.

some say he might lose but when you fight like the way Rocky does you can always fool someone into fighting your style fight.

a great example of this is Duran vs Leonard when he fooled Leonard into going toe 2 toe with him.

If Katsidis can fool any of those fighters into that all those fights would be wars. i think against Guzman Katsidis stands his best chance.
Diaz and Casamayor are too good for Katsidis at the moment.

but if i was Katsidis manager i would be resting Katsidis for at least 6 months and then maybe trying to get a fight with Nate Campbell. i would say thats more likely the way Rocky and his management will go.

[theunderdog]

i know what you mean. ive heard it for the last 2 days now.

if Katsidis fights a pure boxer like Juan Diaz,Joan Guzman or Casamayor he is going to lose.

but i say if he turns it into a slugfest like he does every fight.
i just wonder how Guzman,Diaz or Casamayor would go trying to keep up with Katsidis toe 2 toe style.

some say he might lose but when you fight like the way Rocky does you can always fool someone into fighting your style fight.

a great example of this is Duran vs Leonard when he fooled Leonard into going toe 2 toe with him.

If Katsidis can fool any of those fighters into that all those fights would be wars. i think against Guzman Katsidis stands his best chance.
Diaz and Casamayor are too good for Katsidis at the moment.

but if i was Katsidis manager i would be resting Katsidis for at least 6 months and then maybe trying to get a fight with Nate Campbell. i would say thats more likely the way Rocky and his management will go

i respect you opinion and all but the part the i highlighted is highly questionnanle IMO. amonsot is no where near casamayor, diaz or guzman in skill. but amonsot managed to stay away from katsidis and land nice combos from the outside when he wanted to. those punches messed katsidis' eyes up. i just wonder what makes you think that a better tactician in joan guzman would have any trouble in staying away from kat's in fighting?

[BoppaZoo]

because Guzman is a smaller fighter that is a very very featherfisted puncher and wouldnt hurt Katsidis eyes or even get close to knocking Rocky down.

ive seen Guzman a few time and he was featherfisted for a Featherweight.

and also Guzman has never really been in with a guy like Katsidis, he comes at you none stop. he punch's all the time and keeps coming foward so how would Guzman with his featherfisted jab keep a monster like Katsidis off him.

[Max Molyneux]

Don't be over impressed folks . . . he is lucky to escape and won this fight. He got caught with a lot solid punches . . . it so happens that Amonsot cannot ship gear to a higher level and finish him off thus the result . . . but if he is going to face an opponent like Juan Diaz . . . he won't survive it like this one.

He was lucky Earl's corner pulled him out.

Kat was starting to gas In that one.:deal

[theunderdog]

bro amonsot isn't that hard of a puncher either and look what happend to kat's face. accumulation of punches may they be sledgehammers or feather fisted will have an effect on all boxers. katsidis' game revolves around hitting an opponent whom he has cornered or an opponent who is charging at him. guzman is neither. he's not small either, he's 5'7 and so is katsidis

i'm not hating on katsidis. i respect the guy and totally give him the props for beating amonsot. the filipino is no push over but he is nowhere near what the top tier lightweights are.

[psychopath]

i know what you mean. ive heard it for the last 2 days now.

if Katsidis fights a pure boxer like Juan Diaz,Joan Guzman or Casamayor he is going to lose.

but i say if he turns it into a slugfest like he does every fight.
i just wonder how Guzman,Diaz or Casamayor would go trying to keep up with Katsidis toe 2 toe style.

some say he might lose but when you fight like the way Rocky does you can always fool someone into fighting your style fight.

a great example of this is Duran vs Leonard when he fooled Leonard into going toe 2 toe with him.

If Katsidis can fool any of those fighters into that all those fights would be wars. i think against Guzman Katsidis stands his best chance.
Diaz and Casamayor are too good for Katsidis at the moment.

but if i was Katsidis manager i would be resting Katsidis for at least 6 months and then maybe trying to get a fight with Nate Campbell. i would say thats more likely the way Rocky and his management will go.

Well Kats will have no problem in Guzman if the guy got dragged into a brawl. Guzman doesn't have power to hurt Kats really But Diaz? Kats doesn't have to fool Diaz into brawling . . . that's Diaz game . . . a slugfest so if that happens it's gonna be a complete war.

And yes that's my point . . . Diaz and Casa are still too good for Kats at this time so I want to see Kats getting some more lighter fights before he faces the veterans.

[psychopath]

He was lucky Earl's corner pulled him out.

Kat was starting to gas In that one.:deal

What do you mean gas in??? :roll:

[theunderdog]

What do you mean gas in??? :roll:

wait. are you seriously asking that question?

[knockout]

maybe he just have a shit chin? Guzman would have give him the same thing.

[MancMexican]

He was extremely unrefined but great to watch. If he gets some skills to go along with the power, chin and heart he can do well.

[ozziebattler]

It's funny how the Aussies were telling us Brits how good he was before the Earl fight. After watching that we all jumped aboard in agreement trying to convince the American's. It seems total world domination's just around the corner for the man.

classic.........

But doubt much americans will jump on board...

do you know some americans think australia is in london???

I swear i have been asked that on 9 separate occasions..

No joke either...

Also that i sound irish.....F#cking irish??

Aussie accent sounds irish.....lol..

ONLY IN AMERICA BABY..

[ozziebattler]

He'll get hammered soon enough. I don't care how tough he is or how hard he hits, he's still shit.

Lame comment......TOSSER...

[Beatboxer]

He is the man.

Would love to see him rip Amir Khans head off

[UKITAZ]

Im on !! ... Ive onyl seen him in the Earl fight, and i liked the look of him then ... by all accounts he was awesome on sat night, cant wait to watch that fight.

[BoppaZoo]

No, I just don't rate him. I explained why previously. He's shit.

He nearly got put down by Earl by a wild, looping shot.

He is shit.

He can barely box, had no plan for dealing with a boxer in return. he just waited for him to get tired. That's a pretty crap tactic because it rather relies on an intangible.

Look at the state of him by the end - even if he just has a tendency to mark up, it proves how open he is to a decent, skilled and accurate puncher. Add some dig to those shots and Katsidis will get beaten with the silly stick.

he might be brave, which deserves credit, but he's still crap. People are just in love with his power, but the moment he gets outclassed everyone will chirp on about how limited he was.

Linare was much more entertaining. As much courage and even better skills.NO NO NO. get a clue.

Michael Katsidis with Earl and now Amonsot. The Earl fight was in Feb of this year the Amonsot fight July of this year.

So Michael Katsidis has just produced 2 great wars in the last 6 months.
and your claiming he is shit.

this is what is wrong with boxing fans like you. who would rather watch Cory Spinks and Jermain Taylor go 12 rounds.

Get a Clue.
Katsidis is the next Gatti and that is exactly what boxing needs my friend.

More Wars less borefests like so many we see today. his style might get him into trouble but he is far from shit.

you put this guy in the ring with Diaz,Casamayor or Guzman and your going to get the same result a War. he might lose he might win.

but at least he makes it entertaining.

GET A F_ING CLUE.

oh and might i add the only men i see him losing to at 135 at the moment are Casamayor,Juan Diaz and Julio Diaz. everyone else i see him beating. that not exactly shit now is it.

[Dekkers]

Some sore losers in this thread, just give Katsidis a little credit and respect. Let us Aussie fans enjoy his win, and the fact fans like his style and courage.

[BoppaZoo]

I can see Zahir Raheem schooling Katsidis ... Sorry, I can't stop laughing ... :roflwell i would clearly beat Katsidis would beat
Raheem
Campbell
D. Diaz
Thaxton
Chavez
Romanov

Yes i can see Katsidis beating all those men. Raheem lost Freitas what do you think will happen against Katsidis.

Still my point is the fans of boxing are becoming stupid.

I mean its coming the norm people cheering for boring fighters like PBF,Spinks,Taylor,Winky.

Yet the fans say as soon as the next guy like Gatti comes along. oh he is shit. this is whats wrong with boxing. Why i say is this look what boxing has become a money hungry business where they dont care if Spinks and Taylor bore you to death because the people still pay to see it. now tell me what made the Winky vs B-Hop PPV was it there fight or was it Katsidis vs Amonsot.

oh and being rated in the top ten by Ring i wouldnt call (just a Shit fighter.)

Yes i see Katsidis beating all those guys and you know why. he has something the other guys dont have Heart and Courage. Gatti used this the same way and had 1000's of fans just like Katsidis will.

Its just a shame you would rather watch Taylor vs Spinks 2.

[Dekkers]

Katsidis was on top of Earl for most of the fight even if it was competitive, to say he would've smashed Katsidis is pure speculation, just respect the fact that there are fans who enjoy this type of fighter fluxstuff.

[Dekkers]

What style? Throw big shots till your opponent falls over while not protecting yourself at all?

That's called being stupid.

I couldn't give a shit about Amonsot - I'd never seen him before that fight, but Katsidis is an over-hyped troll. Sure he can bang, but he can't do a fucking thing else.

Why does me not enjoying his performance stop you from doing so.

just disagree and we all move on without throwing insults at each other.

He puts punches together well, his hands aren't slow despite being heavy, his accuracy is quite good. He's still quite new and raw at the top level, we'll see how he adapts with this new level competition. Perhaps we'll see improvements in his defence perhaps we won't, but there's nothing stupid about being an exciting fighter, he'll make a good living out of it while he lasts, win or lose.

[Kegsy]

For the sake of boxing should Katsidis vs Raheem happen lets hope Katsidis knocks Raheem's head off, coz after that last borefest of his the quicker we get rid of him the better.

[BoppaZoo]

FLEXSTUFF this from a man that has 295 posts. The thing that im trying to say to you.

You fans forget that Earl was taking a beating and his corner wanted to stop the fight. the shots he was getting hit with where the heaviest he has ever been hit with. im pretty sure Earl went down 4 times in the fight. and Katsidis although going down once it was a flash knockdown.

And from what ive heard Earl since fighting Katsidis hasntbeen the same since from a few of his fans. and i believe you will find the same with Amonsot. Yes Katsidis gets hit alot but what you fail to realize is that Amonsot was the one that went down twice in the fight. his corner if they had any sense would have pulled there fighter out.

Now Amonsot might never be the same. so when you say Katsidis was getting schooled in both fights.
How can you be schooled when in both fights, Yes he was hit alot but in both fights he was hitting those guys with shots they have never felt before. Earl went down 4 times. Amonsot went down twice. Yet im the fool because i feel Katsidis was the far better fighter and can go toe 2 toe with anyone and not stop punching.

Yes his defense needs work but what happens when a 26 year old gets help with his defense. You can always teach a young guy like that. thats the bonus.

What i really hate is fans like you who come in here think you know everything then say things like Amonsot was winning and Earl was winning when clearly they were not.
Thats the sad thing.

[Kegsy]

His combinations are obvious and predictable, he leaves himself open while throwing them, he uses arm punches when he should be picking his shots.

These are just SOME of the flaws from the fight with Amonsot. Surely keeping your gloves up and taking your time with an opponent who can't really hurt you isn't a massive discipline to implement after 20 odd fights?

Look, he's a decent kid who a little cocky for his level of ability, but this is not the arrival of a new star in boxing. When he gets beaten, he'll get beaten badly and everyone will only be able to praise his heart.

What's wrong with boxing is people deciding to love a fighter after only a couple of performances (look at Pavlik, from being a fringe contender to suddenly being P4P #1 because of beating the horribly limited Miranda).

It was an ok, but hardly amazing victory.

How anyone could have watched that against Linares-Larios and not enjoyed Linares' masterful display over Katsidis blunt force is beyond me. Still upset about Earl's loss back in February to Katsidis.:hi:
Katsidis beats all of Britain's Lightweights.:deal
Hell i would back Ranee Ganoy to beat of all Britain's Lightweights.:rofl

[BoppaZoo]

His combinations are obvious and predictable, he leaves himself open while throwing them, he uses arm punches when he should be picking his shots.

These are just SOME of the flaws from the fight with Amonsot. Surely keeping your gloves up and taking your time with an opponent who can't really hurt you isn't a massive discipline to implement after 20 odd fights?

Look, he's a decent kid who a little cocky for his level of ability, but this is not the arrival of a new star in boxing. When he gets beaten, he'll get beaten badly and everyone will only be able to praise his heart.

What's wrong with boxing is people deciding to love a fighter after only a couple of performances (look at Pavlik, from being a fringe contender to suddenly being P4P #1 because of beating the horribly limited Miranda).

It was an ok, but hardly amazing victory.

How anyone could have watched that against Linares-Larios and not enjoyed Linares' masterful display over Katsidis blunt force is beyond me.hate to tell you this but some of us Aussie have been following Katsidis since the 2000 Olympics.

Sorry but there the facts now get a clue like i said.

ive seen the Ganoy fight were Katsidis beat the piss out of him in 5 rounds.
he did the same to Earl in 5 rounds.

Amonsot was a different fight, and i believ Amonsot's trainer let the fight go on to long and now Amonsot might never be the same.

Like i said ive known about this kid before he got good.

[Dekkers]

His combinations are obvious and predictable, he leaves himself open while throwing them, he uses arm punches when he should be picking his shots.

These are just SOME of the flaws from the fight with Amonsot. Surely keeping your gloves up and taking your time with an opponent who can't really hurt you isn't a massive discipline to implement after 20 odd fights?

Look, he's a decent kid who a little cocky for his level of ability, but this is not the arrival of a new star in boxing. When he gets beaten, he'll get beaten badly and everyone will only be able to praise his heart.

What's wrong with boxing is people deciding to love a fighter after only a couple of performances (look at Pavlik, from being a fringe contender to suddenly being P4P #1 because of beating the horribly limited Miranda).

It was an ok, but hardly amazing victory.

How anyone could have watched that against Linares-Larios and not enjoyed Linares' masterful display over Katsidis blunt force is beyond me.

Katisidis hardly arm punches with regularity, he only really arm punches when he flurries. Katsidis has a very complete kid of punches, inside and outside, he's not as predictable with combinations as say a Kessler (unless you think he's shit).

You also forget that we're not bandwagon fans, the Aussie forum has been following Katsidis for a few years now, through all the visa troubles he's had and the fights that have fallen through. we're just happy he's getting his shot so the UK fans, and now the American fans can see him, and appreciate what he brings into the ring.

Boxing has a lot of styles, don't be a snob if you can't appreciate a good puncher as well as a boxer. Valero and Linares are in the same stable after all, yet Valero is from Katsidis' school of boxing.

[BoppaZoo]

For the sake of boxing should Katsidis vs Raheem happen lets hope Katsidis knocks Raheem's head off, coz after that last borefest of his the quicker we get rid of him the better.what i hate is fans like this Kegsy with 295 posts trying to say to us we shouldnt get on board this guy just from a couple of fights.

do they forget this is the Michael Katsidis Express. if there not on board they should get the fu&* Out.:yep

[Kegsy]

what i hate is fans like this Kegsy with 295 posts trying to say to us we shouldnt get on board this guy just from a couple of fights.

do they forget this is the Michael Katsidis Express. if there not on board they should get the fu&* Out.:yepExactly mate.:good

[BigEars]

How anyone could have watched that against Linares-Larios and not enjoyed Linares' masterful display over Katsidis blunt force is beyond me.

Masterful display ?.......as far as I'm concerned he shares some of the same weaknesses as Katsidis and although his attack might be classier(if obviously less brutal) he is easy to hit just like Katsidis(although not as easy) and can be backed up .

I fancy Linares to probably beat this faded version of Chi but a prime Injin Chi would back Linares up keep throwing shots and take whatever Linares is prepared to give back .

Anyway the more exciting fighters around the better and both Katsidis and Linares are good to watch .

BTW Thaxton would beat Ganoy .

[Kegsy]

BTW Thaxton would beat Ganoy .
Thaxton would have to box & move, coz if he trades with Ganoy its KO time.:mj
Ganoy is just as big a puncher as Katsidis, except even more wild.:yep

[Carlos Primera]

He is the man.

Would love to see him rip Amir Khans head off

:lol:
you and me both bro.

i'm impressed by katsidis, tough, never say die all action heavy hitting warrior reminds me a little of nigel benn

amonsot was equally impressive imo, if it was a great fight it was because amonsot's toughness and heart made it great. seriously even elite lightweights would have caved in under all those hard shots. the kids recovery and toughness are unreal.

[psychopath]

wait. are you seriously asking that question?

Well the Earl fight was different from the Amonsot fight so I don't see why he has to mention Earl. That fight lasted only 5 rounds with Katsidis not receiving the same solid punches that he received from Amonsot. :D

[BoppaZoo]

1) so because of my number of posts I must therfore not be able to see things with my own eyes OR have experience from before I came to ESB. What a stupid comment and as patently stupid as you are being for not JUST ACCEPTING I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU.

2) Earl was losing, no doubt about it. His gameplan was horrendous (stand in front of a massive puncher and block his shots with your head) but that was not a flash KO. Katsidis went flat from then on and was labouring. Was Earl's corner right to stop it? Damn right.

3) When did I ever say Katsidis was being schooled? Let's check... that's right, I didn't.

I haven't called you a fool because I don't even think you're wrong, you just see things differently to me. You should climb off your high-horse because your argument is perilously weak. So what he can go toe-to-toe? A clever counter-puncher will demolish him in seconds for that, especially the way he telegraphs big punches and doesn't protect himself adequately after throwing.

4) I highlighted that because it was particularly bizarre - what did you actually mean? He has a rotten defence and he will be fast approaching his prime now. You think he can make as significant a change to his boxing style at this late stage? he will be able to fight another 4 years before it catches up to him.

5) When did I say either Amonsat or Earl were winning their fights? I'd have had to have been blind because they clearly weren't.

I like Earl, but I'm not a fan of his - I have no care whether he wins or not.

How can anyone say Earl's not the same - he hasn't fought since. That's a ridiculous point to make. these fans you are speaking to clearly aren't big fans.

You like to decide what other people are saying, presumably without reading their posts.

I don't claim to know it all, but i know what i can see. You cannot tell me that Katsidis is proper world-class on that showing? the amount of shots he took would preclude that from being so. Diaz would demolish him.

The saddest thing here, is that you can't take when your argument has been destroyed.

You think Katsidis is world-class. The evidence says that he's not.What i mean by this i think you must be new to this board.

We Aussie fans know of Rocky's flaws already.

What i meant by it all you cant enter a Michael Katsidis Express thread and be negative.

Thats my hole point. i dont think you get the concept of the Express thread. its for fans on board.

Not for Haters or people willing to breakdown Katsidis every inch of how he fights.

EXPRESS= Fans, not haters.

That part of your 295 posts shows that what i was talking about. if your going to talk negative in an Express prepare for WAR.:D

[BoppaZoo]

I got that but i like a good fight.well keep watching Katsidis. because i dont think if he fights Juan Diaz, Casamayor or even Guzman.
It will be far from dull.
so thats why you should get on the Rocky Katsidis EXPRESS. CHOOOOO F*&KING CHOOOO.

[Dekkers]

I love punchers and brawlers, but katsidis is so crude it beggars belief.

You must hate Foreman then, considering he was even cruder, not to mention Peter.

Stop making assumptions from a couple of posts - I enjoyed the fight and thought that katsidis put a good display on, as I have said previously, but he is severely lacking at the top level.

You were complaining that this sort of guy isn't good to watch because he's nthing compared to Linares, what're we supposed to think?

If his opponent had been a harder hitter, Katsidis would have not made it 12 rounds.

Perhaps, but Diaz and Raheem aren't harder hitters, other factors come into play when talking about these match ups.

I couldn't give a shit if you've watched him for 7 years - what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Nothing, you brought it up by implying we were 'bandwagon' fans.

this is partisan fan-worship and, like most partisan morons, you can't debate beyond saying "you're wrong" "you're an idiot" "get a clue".

You like him: fine. I don't.

And you've been condescending all the way through, we've made our point that we like him, and already talked about his weaknesses. Why don't you just let it go and make a Katsidis is shit express instead? Let us enjoy the win since Aussie boxing is a bit dry at the moment.

And, for the record, i'm not fussed in kessler, but at least he can defend himself.

We were talking about predictable combinations as a criticism, we've already discussed defence

:good

[BoppaZoo]

:goodso what Dekkers you agree with this idiot.

That Katsidis is a shit level guy although he holds the WBO Interem Belt. Dekkers shame on you.
so you dont see my hole purpose to being on this board.
Iam here to defend our fighters when they bring them down say there shit and so and so.

because when we do the same we get hell for it. but im supposed to sit here and let our boys get shit from a nerd that sits behind a computer and probably hasnt even been in a fight before let alone in the Ring.

[Dekkers]

so what Dekkers you agree with this idiot.

That Katsidis is a shit level guy although he holds the WBO Interem Belt. Dekkers shame on you.

What the hell makes you say that! :lol:

I think Katsidis has holes in his defence, but I think he's extremely strong (threw Amonsot all over the place), an excellent puncher and has boat loads of stamina.

I think he's very good overall, and his fight with Diaz is the fight i'm anticipating the more than any other fight in boxing :smoke

[BoppaZoo]

What the hell makes you say that! :lol:

I think Katsidis has holes in his defence, but I think he's extremely strong (threw Amonsot all over the place), an excellent puncher and has boat loads of stamina.

I think he's very good overall, and his fight with Diaz is the fight i'm anticipating the more than any other fight in boxing :smokei to cant wait for the fight with The Baby Bull.

But i truely believe Katsidis needs another fight before facing Diaz.

and i think Campbell is the perfect fight. Nate's 35 and on the slide, he is an american name, he has been beating twice by Peden who Rocky could ask to help him prepare.
plus i hear that Juan Diaz and Julio Diaz are in talks about a possible fight. so Campbell is the next best option for Rocky.

[Dekkers]

i to cant wait for the fight with The Baby Bull.

But i truely believe Katsidis needs another fight before facing Diaz.

and i think Campbell is the perfect fight. Nate's 35 and on the slide, he is an american name, he has been beating twice by Peden who Rocky could ask to help him prepare.
plus i hear that Juan Diaz and Julio Diaz are in talks about a possible fight. so Campbell is the next best option for Rocky.

That feels like such a high risk fight considering he's got a guaranteed shot at Diaz. I think a fight with Peden while still dangerous (maybe not quite as dangerous :think) would also be easier to make.