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Leeroy
07-22-2007, 12:39 AM
Jesus H christ man. This is stupid - don't let your excitment over his win cloud your perception. The man will be 43,possibly close to 44 years old before this fight takes place.

Calzaghe fights Kessler in November(My birthday:yep)and after he whoops the ever living piss out of him,the negotiations and what not could take up to a full year.....

Don't let this win cloud your mind.

Calzaghe is a bigger man than Winky,has better speed and better combinations,uses beter angles - the whole 9 yards. Add to Calzaghe's talents times 4 the age of B-hop and you will have a beatdown.

THEN.............

THEN after Calzaghe beats B-hop most of you fucking clowns will say "ooooooooh well B-hop is over the hill,look how old he is,this win doesn't mean anything for Calzaghe."

Get with it.

Hopkins should retire and retire an ALL TIME GREAT.

hitman_hatton1
07-22-2007, 12:44 AM
calzaghe is obviously faster and flashier than winky.

but on the flipside calzaghe is a bit more open to counters.

i still see hops-calzaghe being close.

but i do give calzaghe more of a chance after tonight.

up for grabs fight. :bbb

Leeroy
07-22-2007, 12:49 AM
calzaghe is obviously faster and flashier than winky.

but on the flipside calzaghe is a bit more open to counters.

i still see hops-calzaghe being close.

but i do give calzaghe more of a chance after tonight.

up for grabs fight. :bbb

It's the age that makes this fight so unattractive for Calzaghe fans - it's a lose lose situation.

BlueApollo
07-22-2007, 12:49 AM
There's no reason why the fight shouldn't happen.

Calzaghe's been calling out 'Nard for the past two years.

Bernard's just proved he still has world class ability.

The bout would make huge money and would have historical significance.

Of course Hopkins would be a big underdog, but he can't win forever. Calzaghe would know better than to try to flurry him to death. If you think Joe would make Hopkins do a Manfredo, you're as bad as the idiots on the other end of the spectrum calling Ex the all-time alpha and omega from 160-175. I see a nip and tuck fight where the Welshman gets the nod for more consistent activity, in the range of 8-4 or 7-5.

brooklyn1550
07-22-2007, 12:50 AM
I think Calzaghe would UD B-Hop

teetop
07-22-2007, 12:51 AM
It's the age that makes this fight so unattractive for Calzaghe fans - it's a lose lose situation.

Agreed. Calzaghe will beat the shit out of hopkins, and then berated
over doing it.

BobDigi5060
07-22-2007, 12:51 AM
Calzag is no spring chicken himself though, he's about the same age as right.

Calzag is a whole other problem for Hopkins. Bigger than Winky with faster handspeed and a more aggresive offense means trouble.

Calzag wins.

andyZOR
07-22-2007, 12:53 AM
Joe will Lacy him. But I could care less anyways. Just thought id give my 2 pennies

Leeroy
07-22-2007, 12:54 AM
There's no reason why the fight shouldn't happen.

Calzaghe's been calling out 'Nard for the past two years.

Bernard's just proved he still has world class ability.

The bout would make huge money and would have historical significance.

Of course Hopkins would be a big underdog, but he can't win forever. Calzaghe would know better than to try to flurry him to death. If you think Joe would make Hopkins do a Manfredo, you're as bad as the idiots on the other end of the spectrum calling Ex the all-time alpha and omega from 160-175. I see a nip and tuck fight where the Welshman gets the nod for more consistent activity, in the range of 8-4 or 7-5.

You're not understanding - through the eyes of boxing historians,and fans alike,this fight is meaningless from Calzaghe's perspective.

The old age of Hopkins will rear it's ugly head.

It Calzaghe wins it's because of Hopkin's age - if Hopkins wins,he's the man.

This fight has no weight when looking at it from Calzaghe's point of view - or his fans.

In terms of generating mass apeal/money this is the ideal fight - anything other is pointless.

BlueApollo
07-22-2007, 01:27 AM
You're not understanding - through the eyes of boxing historians,and fans alike,this fight is meaningless from Calzaghe's perspective.

The old age of Hopkins will rear it's ugly head.

It Calzaghe wins it's because of Hopkin's age - if Hopkins wins,he's the man.

This fight has no weight when looking at it from Calzaghe's point of view - or his fans.

In terms of generating mass apeal/money this is the ideal fight - anything other is pointless.

Okay, so you are worried about idiots pulling the "he's old, Joe should have won" argument. But if it meant nothing, why did Joe waste his breath so often calling out Bernard? It obviously means something. If it was so damn easy to decisively beat Old Man River, why hasn't it happened yet?

You can't tuck your tail between your legs because revisionists (not true historians) look for ways to belittle a fighter's achievements. Are you also disappointed he's fighting Kessler, because his detractors will call Kessler a green, textbook boxer? This kind of garbage becomes paralyzing.

the_churn
07-22-2007, 01:42 AM
Calzag is no spring chicken himself though, he's about the same age as right.

Calzag is a whole other problem for Hopkins. Bigger than Winky with faster handspeed and a more aggresive offense means trouble.

Calzag wins.
Maybe, but JC has never fought someone who smothers, headbutts, shoulder rolls, whacks you with his elbows and delivers kidney and rabbit punches when the ref is turned in the opposite direction like B-Hop. He knows just what to do against a smothery volume puncher. Christ, I think if he could think of a way to hide a gun or knife in his gloves, they would find B-Hop's next opponent dead with a slug in his brain. Even at this old age, and perhaps even more than when he was in his prime, B-Hop is the very definition of the word throwback.

BlueApollo
07-22-2007, 01:47 AM
Maybe, but JC has never fought someone who smothers, headbutts, shoulder rolls, whacks you with his elbows and delivers kidney and rabbit punches when the ref is turned in the opposite direction like B-Hop. He knows just what to do against a smothery volume puncher. Christ, I think if he could think of a way to hide a gun or knife in his gloves, they would find B-Hop's next opponent dead with a slug in his brain. Even at this old age, and perhaps even more than when he was in his prime, B-Hop is the very definition of the word throwback.

:D:D:D

Lostmykeys
07-22-2007, 01:53 AM
Bernard Hopkins is a master boxer, he has been in just about every situation and Calzaghe can show Bernard nothing that RJJ didn't.

That said Calzaghe would probably win a UD based on the fact he would be throwing much more punches. There is no way that Calzaghe will dominate Hopkins it can't be done at tjis point.

J_Roth
07-22-2007, 01:55 AM
Unfortunetly Calzaghe wins this one. B-Hop will keep it interesting and will have his moments.

David UK
07-23-2007, 10:49 AM
Does anyone here think Hopkins will seek the winner of Calzaghe/Kessler?:think

Only if it's Kessler

Fat Tony
07-23-2007, 10:55 AM
Only if it's Kessler

Only if it's Calzaghe.

Sonny's jab
07-23-2007, 11:06 AM
Calzaghe is about 36 himself.

These "superfights" these days are shit. Calzaghe-Hopkins would be a stinker.
You can keep it. As with Mayweather-De La Hoya, these guys will slap and pose a bit and walk away with millions of dollars.

Superstar fighters these days aren't worth a dime, but end up with a pot of gold. It's criminal.

And what's sad is the way fans these days excuse it. Apparently boxing's not about entertaining or actually throwing punches, the true art is essentially boring and uneventful. What a load of crap. Guys like Roberto Duran, Thomas Hearns and Larry Holmes managed to combine amazing skills with action, and they earned everything they got.

LeedsLad
07-23-2007, 11:09 AM
Anthony Mundine would win against Hopkins,Wright and Calzaghe they all had it.This fight today was just for money it was show business only.

Is that a joke?

charlievint
07-23-2007, 06:17 PM
Jesus H christ man. This is stupid - don't let your excitment over his win cloud your perception. The man will be 43,possibly close to 44 years old before this fight takes place.

Calzaghe fights Kessler in November(My birthday:yep)and after he whoops the ever living piss out of him,the negotiations and what not could take up to a full year.....

Don't let this win cloud your mind.

Calzaghe is a bigger man than Winky,has better speed and better combinations,uses beter angles - the whole 9 yards. Add to Calzaghe's talents times 4 the age of B-hop and you will have a beatdown.

THEN.............

THEN after Calzaghe beats B-hop most of you fucking clowns will say "ooooooooh well B-hop is over the hill,look how old he is,this win doesn't mean anything for Calzaghe."

Get with it.

Hopkins should retire and retire an ALL TIME GREAT.

WHO HAS JOE BEAT????? God Damn...I mean he looks good against "ALRGIGHT" Guys and even then he is spotty....He hasn't beaten anyone on Bhop's level or even Winky's level. he's not even close to having the Ring record or accolades that Hop has.

The only Chance that Joe beats a guy like Hop is if Hop gets old when they fight which could happen, but JOE is a waste of GREAT talent...he likes to fly under the radar but BITCH about not getting the credit....If he would CHALLENGE himself and fight Marquee guys with solid ring accomplishments then he would be better as a fighter...maybe have a loss or two but his legacy would be FAAAAAR better than what it is now or ever will be.

Bhop beats Joe at this point by UD...maybe KO. ANd this isn't even a CLOSE to his prime Hop. Joe needs to get past a solid fighter like Kessler first...I see him winning by UD agaisnt Kessler but again! Kessler is NO bhop or Winky.

charlievint
07-23-2007, 06:21 PM
Anthony Mundine would win against Hopkins,Wright and Calzaghe they all had it.This fight today was just for money it was show business only.

LOL:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Don't get me wrong.....I'm not laughin at you...just what you posted....Anthony Mudine is a sharp guy...good boxer, decent skills GREAT Talent and reflexes but He's not on Joe's level and no where near Bhop or Winks level. He's good though...let's keep it real.

MagnificentMatt
07-23-2007, 06:23 PM
It's the age that makes this fight so unattractive for Calzaghe fans - it's a lose lose situation.

I agree...and i still hate Calzaghe.

boxfan99
07-23-2007, 06:24 PM
The only way Calzaghe gets to fight Hopkins is by pulling out of the Kessler fight using some lame excuse, because Hopkins won't fight him after he has lost to Kessler.

Calzaghe would beat Hopkins though, no doubt in my mind.

sues2nd
07-23-2007, 06:35 PM
This post is stupid....I aint even gonna waste a post arguing it. But I do want to leave one small thing.

For the people saying it will be an easy win, answer me this....who has Joe fought that is 1/1000 the fighter Hopkins is???

I hope this fight happens, because WHEN Bernard pulls it out, there will be NO denying this spot in history....not that ya can now.

psychopath
07-23-2007, 07:16 PM
Jesus H christ man. This is stupid - don't let your excitment over his win cloud your perception. The man will be 43,possibly close to 44 years old before this fight takes place.

Calzaghe fights Kessler in November(My birthday:yep)and after he whoops the ever living piss out of him,the negotiations and what not could take up to a full year.....

Don't let this win cloud your mind.

Calzaghe is a bigger man than Winky,has better speed and better combinations,uses beter angles - the whole 9 yards. Add to Calzaghe's talents times 4 the age of B-hop and you will have a beatdown.

THEN.............

THEN after Calzaghe beats B-hop most of you fucking clowns will say "ooooooooh well B-hop is over the hill,look how old he is,this win doesn't mean anything for Calzaghe."

Get with it.

Hopkins should retire and retire an ALL TIME GREAT.

Wouldn't beat? How sure are you? Sounds to me that you're just scared of this fight taking place and a 43 years old fighter exposing your boii.

:D :lol: :rofl

:good

Lance_Uppercut
07-23-2007, 07:48 PM
You're not understanding - through the eyes of boxing historians,and fans alike,this fight is meaningless from Calzaghe's perspective.

The old age of Hopkins will rear it's ugly head.

It Calzaghe wins it's because of Hopkin's age - if Hopkins wins,he's the man.

This fight has no weight when looking at it from Calzaghe's point of view - or his fans.

In terms of generating mass apeal/money this is the ideal fight - anything other is pointless.

:huh

Hopkins has NOT looked old, and that is what historians will look at. His age is a factor ONLY when it's a factor. As of today, "Historians" are NOT calling Hopkins an old fighter. Historians and fans are NOT on the same page most of the time. You are a prime example of that. Stick to the lounge..

Leeroy
07-23-2007, 10:35 PM
:huh

Hopkins has NOT looked old, and that is what historians will look at. His age is a factor ONLY when it's a factor. As of today, "Historians" are NOT calling Hopkins an old fighter. Historians and fans are NOT on the same page most of the time. You are a prime example of that. Stick to the lounge..

That's not the point - win or lose it's not in Calzaghe's best interest to take this fight - for him or his fans concerned about his 'legacy.'

That was never my original point. IF Calzaghe wins(and I'm positive he will)the doubters will automatically point to Hopkin's age. Joe,through the unforgiving lense of history,will be viewed(in this particular fight)as beating an old over-the-hill champion.

From Hopkins point of view this fight makes perfect sense;fight Calzaghe - win or lose,it's no hair of your back. No loss of respect. No loss of legacy.......And Hopkins and his fans know this - that's why they're not concerned about this possible matchup. If Hopkins wins the fight, he will only add to his already outstanding boxing career.

The Hopkins people know this. Most won't admit it,but I'm pretty sure they know in their heart of hearts he'll lose(Hopkins that is).

I don't personally give a shit,as I'm a fan of Calzaghe - I'm not Calzaghe's friend,nore am I his mother........But in Calzaghe's interest,it doesn't make sense - his people should know this.

Leeroy
07-23-2007, 10:45 PM
:huh

Hopkins has NOT looked old, and that is what historians will look at. His age is a factor ONLY when it's a factor. As of today, "Historians" are NOT calling Hopkins an old fighter. Historians and fans are NOT on the same page most of the time. You are a prime example of that. Stick to the lounge..

Make a valid point,and learn some reading comprehension - I thought we went over this before..........:lol:

Leeroy
07-23-2007, 10:53 PM
:huh

Hopkins has NOT looked old, and that is what historians will look at. His age is a factor ONLY when it's a factor. As of today, "Historians" are NOT calling Hopkins an old fighter. Historians and fans are NOT on the same page most of the time. You are a prime example of that. Stick to the lounge..

:lol::lol:

What a dumbass. Do some math you ebonics typing troll - Calzaghe fights in November.

If Calzaghe and Hopkins fight it wont be until late NEXT year already leaving Hopkins a year old than he is now.............All the more time for fathertime to catch up.

Let's be honest;If Hopkins would have lost to Winky,the naysayers would have said he is LOGICALLY past his prime.....But since he won,he's superman - he can beat Calzaghe.:nut

It's retarded logic,and laughs in the face of logic. No matter what he looked like Saturday,we're talking about next YEAR,and Calzaghe being 6 years younger.

sues2nd
07-23-2007, 10:55 PM
So looks like its been about 3 hours and NOONE has named a fighter Calzaghe fought that is 1/1000 the fighter B-Hop is....

Like I said, this thread is stupid. Real posters...dont waste ya time.

Leeroy
07-23-2007, 10:58 PM
So looks like its been about 3 hours and NOONE has named a fighter Calzaghe fought that is 1/1000 the fighter B-Hop is....

Like I said, this thread is stupid. Real posters...dont waste ya time.

That's not the point.......Hell,I'm all up for Calzaghe punishing the old man. But it will be sweet to hear the idiots afterwards saying Hopkins is past his prime - yeah well.....NO SHIT.:lol:

That's the fucking point. If you wan't to witness the old man get beat,WITHOUT making excusses,then I can't wait.

sues2nd
07-23-2007, 11:12 PM
That's not the point.......Hell,I'm all up for Calzaghe punishing the old man. But it will be sweet to hear the idiots afterwards saying Hopkins is past his prime - yeah well.....NO SHIT.:lol:

That's the fucking point. If you wan't to witness the old man get beat,WITHOUT making excusses,then I can't wait.

As a Hopkins fan....I will tell ya....people have been saying that for how long now?

Oh when he loses all of his fans will say age caught up with him....blah blah blah.

Well he lost to Taylor, anyone see any of those posts from Hopkins fans??? NO, there were none (a few from the many on here who dispise the guy for some weird reason....:-( )...for one reason because most people (and Im not just talking Hopkins fans....most people that watch boxing) felt he won AT LEAST one of those. But back to the point....you have never heard that, and people have been saying it for 5 years + now. People really need some new material on here....gettin old.

Im gonna save you the time here. Calzaghe is a fantastic fighter. BUT, he is a high output fighter, who throws in volumes rather than with alot of power (I do think he has very underrated power tho)....which is the EXACT TYPE OF FIGHTER a defensive counter puncher eats alive...and there arent many better defensive counter punchers EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT better than Hopkins.

The stylistic matchup favors Hopkins by a mile.....but with that said.

I do think it will be a good fight, and due to Bernards output problems in some fights, Calzaghe has a chance. But to say that it will be a lopsided victory...even tho Joe has never faced anyone even remotely near as good as an older Hopkins (which actually IS the point...hense why I asked it)....is borderline insanity.

Thanks and I hope you learned something....

:good

Leeroy
07-23-2007, 11:13 PM
As a Hopkins fan....I will tell ya....people have been saying that for how long now?

Oh when he loses all of his fans will say age caught up with him....blah blah blah.

Well he lost to Taylor, anyone see any of those posts from Hopkins fans??? NO, there were none (a few from the many on here who dispise the guy for some weird reason....:-( )...for one reason because most people (and Im not just talking Hopkins fans....most people that watch boxing) felt he won AT LEAST one of those. But back to the point....you have never heard that, and people have been saying it for 5 years + now. People really need some new material on here....gettin old.

Im gonna save you the time here. Calzaghe is a fantastic fighter. BUT, he is a high output fighter, who throws in volumes rather than with alot of power (I do think he has very underrated power tho)....which is the EXACT TYPE OF FIGHTER a defensive counter puncher eats alive...and there arent many better defensive counter punchers EVER better than Hopkins.

The stylistic matchup favors Hopkins by a mile.....but with that said.

I do think it will be a good fight, and due to Bernards output problems in some fights, Calzaghe has a chance. But to say that it will be a lopsided victory...even tho Joe has never faced anyone even remotely near as good as an older Hopkins (which actually IS the point...hense why I asked it)....is borderline insanity.

Thanks and I hope you learned something....

:good

Alright then,no complaining after the fight takes place - deal?:deal

MSTR
07-23-2007, 11:17 PM
As a Hopkins fan....I will tell ya....people have been saying that for how long now?

Oh when he loses all of his fans will say age caught up with him....blah blah blah.

Well he lost to Taylor, anyone see any of those posts from Hopkins fans??? NO, there were none (a few from the many on here who dispise the guy for some weird reason....:-( )...for one reason because most people (and Im not just talking Hopkins fans....most people that watch boxing) felt he won AT LEAST one of those. But back to the point....you have never heard that, and people have been saying it for 5 years + now. People really need some new material on here....gettin old.

Im gonna save you the time here. Calzaghe is a fantastic fighter. BUT, he is a high output fighter, who throws in volumes rather than with alot of power (I do think he has very underrated power tho)....which is the EXACT TYPE OF FIGHTER a defensive counter puncher eats alive...and there arent many better defensive counter punchers EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE SPORT better than Hopkins.

The stylistic matchup favors Hopkins by a mile.....but with that said.

I do think it will be a good fight, and due to Bernards output problems in some fights, Calzaghe has a chance. But to say that it will be a lopsided victory...even tho Joe has never faced anyone even remotely near as good as an older Hopkins (which actually IS the point...hense why I asked it)....is borderline insanity.

Thanks and I hope you learned something....

:good
Good post. If JC won, of course Bernards age would be considered a factor, but at the same time people realise he is still a top p4p fighter, and it would be a very good win for him. Personally I think Hop beats JC anyway. To crafty, and too good with that right hand. JC looks great against people who don't move around the ring will like Manfredo and Lacy. Hop is one of the best ring technicians of the last 20 years. He would provide JC the toughest test of his career.

sues2nd
07-23-2007, 11:32 PM
Good post. If JC won, of course Bernards age would be considered a factor, but at the same time people realise he is still a top p4p fighter, and it would be a very good win for him. Personally I think Hop beats JC anyway. To crafty, and too good with that right hand. JC looks great against people who don't move around the ring will like Manfredo and Lacy. Hop is one of the best ring technicians of the last 20 years. He would provide JC the toughest test of his career.

:good

Of course, as I said, Joe's ability to throw such a high volume could factor into a decision.

And leeroy, Im not the type of poster that makes excuses.....go read some of my stuff...aint in me. I may be a fan of Hopkins, but Im a boxing fan first. I tend to look at things more subjectively then others.

So as I said, the ONLY advantage Calzaghe has on Hop is output (there are other things he does better, but they are things that wont factor in come fighttime...speed, power, etc.). And against a fighter like Bernard, unless there is alot behind that output, he is GOING to make that a disadvantage. Plus when you add in the fact that noone that Joe has ever stepped into the ring with is even capable of holding Bernards spit bucket in between rounds....there is NO WAY you can look at it objectively and say its an easy win for Calzaghe....

Leeroy
07-23-2007, 11:34 PM
The kessler fight is much more important.

Hopkins isn't important. It would be a feather in his cap but Hopkins is old and past it, and that cannot be denied.

That's a fact.

sues2nd
07-23-2007, 11:50 PM
That's a fact.

:patsch

Lance_Uppercut
07-24-2007, 12:04 AM
:lol::lol:

What a dumbass. Do some math you ebonics typing troll - Calzaghe fights in November.

If Calzaghe and Hopkins fight it wont be until late NEXT year already leaving Hopkins a year old than he is now.............All the more time for fathertime to catch up.

Let's be honest;If Hopkins would have lost to Winky,the naysayers would have said he is LOGICALLY past his prime.....But since he won,he's superman - he can beat Calzaghe.:nut

It's retarded logic,and laughs in the face of logic. No matter what he looked like Saturday,we're talking about next YEAR,and Calzaghe being 6 years younger.
Who gives a fuck what people would say if he lost. Did HOPKINS LOSE SATURDAY?

You are completly clueless to what I was saying. Go back to the lounge and embarress yourself there.

Hopkins will be called old when he LOOKS old in the ring. And so far, he hasn't has he?

Sorry loser, Hopkins isn't superman. He's a great boxer who's taken incredible care of his body, which allows him to stay at this level he's reached so far.

Now, try to tell me what I said doesn't make sense you moron.

Lance_Uppercut
07-24-2007, 12:05 AM
Way to go Lance :good


:good

MSTR
07-24-2007, 12:05 AM
:patsch
For a guy who is old and past it he has completely out done himself to beat the number 1 guy at light heavy and then beat a fighter considered to be one of the top p4p fighters in the world today.

brooklyn1550
07-24-2007, 12:07 AM
Who gives a fuck what people would say if he lost. Did HOPKINS LOSE SATURDAY?

You are completly clueless to what I was saying. Go back to the lounge and embarress yourself there.

Hopkins will be called old when he LOOKS old in the ring. And so far, he hasn't has he?

Sorry loser, Hopkins isn't superman. He's a great boxer who's taken incredible care of his body, which allows him to stay at this level he's reached so far.

Now, try to tell me what I said doesn't make sense you moron.

:good

MSTR
07-24-2007, 12:09 AM
Does anyone else here think that BHop would make an awesome coach? His technical knowledge of the sport would be unrivaled. It would simply be a matter of whether he could adapt his knowledge to suit the styles of different fighters.

Jinx
07-24-2007, 12:11 AM
at this point i would pick Calzaghe to decision Hopkins, but a prime Hopkins would've countered Calzaghe to hell with that right hand...Hopkins is just a beat too slow at 42 to really take over a fight with Calzaghe...

brooklyn1550
07-24-2007, 12:12 AM
Does anyone else here think that BHop would make an awesome coach? His technical knowledge of the sport would be unrivaled. It would simply be a matter of whether he could adapt his knowledge to suit the styles of different fighters.

I agree with you 100 percent there

Marnoff
07-24-2007, 12:41 AM
THEN after Calzaghe beats B-hop most of you fucking clowns will say "ooooooooh well B-hop is over the hill,look how old he is,this win doesn't mean anything for Calzaghe."

Get with it.

Hopkins should retire and retire an ALL TIME GREAT.

If anyone beats Hopkins, I will give full credit to anyone. Honestly, you have to admit he is "over the hill", but he's still a ridiculously tough fight for anyone. If Calzaghe beats him, it's a great feather in his cap, regardless of anything.

Marnoff
07-24-2007, 12:44 AM
Does anyone else here think that BHop would make an awesome coach? His technical knowledge of the sport would be unrivaled. It would simply be a matter of whether he could adapt his knowledge to suit the styles of different fighters.

The guy knows as much about styles as anyone possibly could. I'd love to sit down and talk with him about the old legends like Moore and Charles, Walcott. Wow.

sues2nd
07-24-2007, 12:45 AM
at this point i would pick Calzaghe to decision Hopkins, but a prime Hopkins would've countered Calzaghe to hell with that right hand...Hopkins is just a beat too slow at 42 to really take over a fight with Calzaghe...

He still throws that lead right and counter right faster than almost everyone in or around his division.

Remember timing is more important than speed.

elias
07-24-2007, 05:04 AM
Calzaghe beats Hopkins. Calzaghe would have beaten any version of Hopkins.

Calzaghe has the speed to get in and out before Hop can do any damage.


Of course Bernard would make it as dirty as possible.

Beatboxer
07-24-2007, 08:55 AM
JC UD 12 Old Bastard

Tettsuo
07-24-2007, 10:19 AM
Hopkins (or as my friends like to call him, "The Dirt") UD over JC

minkyboodle
07-24-2007, 11:52 AM
Calzaghe beats Hopkins. Calzaghe would have beaten any version of Hopkins.

Calzaghe has the speed to get in and out before Hop can do any damage.


Of course Bernard would make it as dirty as possible.

:patsch

Hopkins 1997-2002 punishes Calz, wears him down and KO's him in the latter rounds. I would bet everything I own on that.

Tettsuo
07-24-2007, 12:04 PM
Calzaghe beats Hopkins. Calzaghe would have beaten any version of Hopkins.

Calzaghe has the speed to get in and out before Hop can do any damage.


Of course Bernard would make it as dirty as possible.
Hopkins' record against lefties is 100%. Why would Calzaghe be any different? If anything, he's more hittable because he opens up more which is perfect for a fighter like Hops.

Calzaghe = :dead
Hops = :happy