Mundine/Green....Do you think it will generate much interest?

[oztriker]

Personally.....As a Boxing Fan....I admit that I will watch it.....I may not pay for it but I will watch it.:oops:

But my feelings are that the novelty is over now for non-boxing fans and failing Mundine threatening to lead a charge of his Redfern mates on Parliament House....that this fight won't generate even half the interest or half the income of their first fight.

Your thoughts...:think

[ipswich express]

Yes mate, I can assure you that there wouldn't be one person on this forum who wouldn't watch it. It'll do huge numbers, if it were to happen.

[pecks]

I'll watch it too, but fail to see it being a big hit with the fair weather boxing fan.
I can't see where all the money is going to come from either. If Mundine's forking out 5 mill to green, then I assume he'd be making something similar for himself. I doubt theres 10 million dollars worth of interest to see these two go at it for a 2nd time.

[oztriker]

I'll watch it too, but fail to see it being a big hit with the fair weather boxing fan.
I can't see where all the money is going to come from either. If Mundine's forking out 5 mill to green, then I assume he'd be making something similar for himself. I doubt theres 10 million dollars worth of interest to see these two go at it for a 2nd time.

One assumes 10 million after costs.... No idea how much income it would have to generate?:think

[PedroDePacas]

If it happens I won't be excited but I'll watch it.

I'm sure they'll both make some money out of it, but no way can I see it reaching the levels of hype and public interest that surrounded the first one.

[AussieMauler]

Is it possible that Mundine would take less than Green in this fight?

Hear me out

Fight generates less income than the first time BUT still more than any other fight he can swing....offers Danny 5 million KNOWING he will be getting the lesser purse but still 3-4 mil.

Gotta spend the extra cash to get his bitch out of retirement.

Long shot?

[oztriker]

Is it possible that Mundine would take less than Green in this fight?

Hear me out

Fight generates less income than the first time BUT still more than any other fight he can swing....offers Danny 5 million KNOWING he will be getting the lesser purse but still 3-4 mil.

Gotta spend the extra cash to get his bitch out of retirement.

Long shot?

I was thinking the same thing...

Does anyone know the "REAL" figures on the income generated by the first fight?:think

[PorkChopExpress]

It's not a fight I want to happen. Couldn't care if Green says no... would be happy if Green says no actually.

I will definitely watch it, but I dont think the general public will eat it up again. They're main reason would be to see Mundine get beat up and even the average fan would know that a retired Danny Green, fighting purely for money is less likely to win than the charged Green who wanted to smash Mundine infront of Australia a few years ago...

[pecks]

I was thinking the same thing...

Does anyone know the "REAL" figures on the income generated by the first fight?:thinkNot sure, but for what it's worth, Mundine was quoted saying that it was well under the 5 million figure that was going around.

I really can't see them getting anywhere near 10, or even 8 million for a 2nd fight. I asked some guys at work last night if they'd watch a rematch and they all said no, and these are guys who watched their first encounter.

I'm sure they'd get a great deal through the gate if it's at Perth, but ppv sales will be well down from their last fight. I also doubt that it will be showing at nearly every pub like the first one was.

[Bentchassis]

I reckon the general public will take the bait again. In the circles I move in the perception is still one of tremendous support for Green and extreme Hatred for Mundine which seems to generate all the intrest.

Also due to the lack of exposure boxing has with the general public I can see most embracing such a rivalry as a step away from there normal sporting or other interests.

I think the majority of fair weather supporters that tuned in on the first occassion were genuinely pissed off with the result and would still love to see revenge take place.

With all the hype and promotion generated, including ridiculous and seemingly offensive comments from Mundine to spark even further interest, I can't see the popularity waning.

[Sox]

I voted for number 1 -
Yes...The general public will again get caught up in the hype

Though I'd likely pay for it myself as I'm fairly interested in the outcome if it's at a higher weight.

IMO, Green will beat Mundine if they meet again.

Rick.

[AussieMauler]

I voted for number 1 -
Yes...The general public will again get caught up in the hype

Though I'd likely pay for it myself as I'm fairly interested in the outcome if it's at a higher weight.

IMO, Green will beat Mundine if they meet again.

Rick.


there is no weight in boxing that Green can beat Mundine.


Maybe if they had a fight on the moon or further off in space

[pecks]

I think the majority of fair weather supporters that tuned in on the first occassion were genuinely pissed off with the result and would still love to see revenge take place.

With all the hype and promotion generated, including ridiculous and seemingly offensive comments from Mundine to spark even further interest, I can't see the popularity waning.The general public arent stupid though. They already saw Mundine beat Green easily the first time. many also thought that Mundine was scared the first time round, and fought because of the money. This time they'll know thats not the case.

Anyway, my thoughts are that if its in Perth (which it probably will be) they will get a good turnout there, but ppv sales will be down by a lot.

[Bentchassis]

Fair enough, either way you look at it generating those sorts of numbers between two Aus fighters is unheard of. You wouldn't throw that sort of money around hastily unless someone's going to do alright out of it.

I would disagree that in terms of boxing that the general public are that well informed either which is part of the reason I am so often on this site.

Im now curious how the Fenech/Nelson card did PPV sales wise?

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

I doubt they'd turnover any more than the Fenech v Nelson match. That was held in a 10,000 seat stadium and only about 6,000 of them had bums in them, and plenty of those were feebees.

The public aren't totally silly (though many are), and if the consensus is that Danny can't win, most won't pay the $$$ to see it.

I reckon at present they are simply 'floating' the idea to the public, like politicians do with proposed legislation. Waiting to see the reaction.

If after Danny's done fishing the feeling is that the $$$ will flow, it'll be a goer. If the public haven't taken the bait, and virtually guaranteed the $$$, Danny will get the rod back out.

Can he win? Unfortunately, I don't think so.

[VIP]

It's possible that the general public will fall for it. I, for one don't give two rat's arse about this fight.

[Kegsy]

Its starting to become a bit of bullshit now in my opinion....

[shiner]

hey dudes.you dont like,dont watch.but you all are getting sucked in by em and wasting time posting.'dont care ,wont watch'. like fuck you idiots saying that.if you dont care you wouldnt post.boxing would be dead in aus without them.no disrespect to other fighters that are known,but not one could get back and front page unless they raped a goat and got busted.the whole fuken country is geed up over it.keep kicking tyres u jealous cretons who bag.

[pecks]

hey dudes.you dont like,dont watch.but you all are getting sucked in by em and wasting time posting.'dont care ,wont watch'. like fuck you idiots saying that.if you dont care you wouldnt post.boxing would be dead in aus without them.no disrespect to other fighters that are known,but not one could get back and front page unless they raped a goat and got busted.the whole fuken country is geed up over it.keep kicking tyres u jealous cretons who bag.Piss off back to your dirt shoveling mother's womb ya wretched bin juice plum!

[JOSEY WALES]

Of course it will be an intresting fight "In Australia " because 90% of Aussies are aware who the fuck Mandy is and will be praying the cunt gets turned off at the mains ,but world wide it will be a case of "who did you say was fighting " ? ... Jeff Fenech ?

[ajay11]

I WON'T BE HAPPY AT ALL SHOULD MUNDINE v GREEN GO AHEAD.

Choc has found it hard to get the fights he wants overseas because he doesn't want to take on the lesser known fighters. All the big names in the USA are looking for that one big fight and aren't prepared to give him a shot BUT there are fights he could take that would improve his ranking and put more presure on the big guns.

It appears as though Mundine would rather fuck around here until something falls in his lap.

If he fights Green at super middle/light heavy then it makes one wonder why he just didn't fight Kessler.

I was hyped for the first fight but this is bullshit.

[JOSEY WALES]

I WON'T BE HAPPY AT ALL SHOULD MUNDINE v GREEN GO AHEAD.

Choc has found it hard to get the fights he wants overseas because he doesn't want to take on the lesser known fighters. All the big names in the USA are looking for that one big fight and aren't prepared to give him a shot BUT there are fights he could take that would improve his ranking and put more presure on the big guns.

It appears as though Mundine would rather fuck around here until something falls in his lap.

If he fights Green at super middle/light heavy then it makes one wonder why he just didn't fight Kessler.

I was hyped for the first fight but this is bullshit. Yea , they are all ducking him ,,,Man ,,, We know man ,,Penny dropping finally AJay Man ??? i would be surpirised if he taxed his own ass ,,,Man :yep

[ajay11]

it.

I reckon at present they are simply 'floating' the idea to the public, like politicians do with proposed legislation. Waiting to see the reaction.

.

The word about has been that Mundine's long term plan was now in motion, that being him going down to middleweight and fight overseas....it's all any cunts been talking about for fucking ever.

He don't need to float it because he already knows what every cunt thinks......"WHAT THE FUCK?"

That said there was always the chance that Mundine would do a backflip. Unfortunately he'll land on his head.

[ajay11]

Yea , they are all ducking him ,,,Man ,,, We know man ,,Penny dropping finally AJay Man ??? i would be surpirised if he taxed his own ass ,,,Man :yep

There's no suggestion that anyone's "Ducking Him" as in avoiding him out of fear or the like, it's just they just don't rate him or couldn't be bothered.

The simple fact is that Khoder and Mundine have been working hard to get the guys that wanted but they're just not interested.

I would like him to lower his sights a little but apparently it's not an option.

[pecks]

Of course it will be an intresting fight "In Australia " because 90% of Aussies are aware who the fuck Mandy is and will be praying the cunt gets turned off at the mains ,but world wide it will be a case of "who did you say was fighting " ? ... Jeff Fenech ?Interesting yes, but it will never generate the interest that their first fight did. That was massive here, it was our little Tyson V Lewis fight. People who had never seen a boxing fight before went to a pub to watch this.

The rematch?...Nah. Not even close. If the first fight was close, then yeah, the public could be forgiven for wanting a rematch. But it wasn't a close fight, and the fact that Danny is coming out of retirement (even though he hasn't been retired for long) makes it even less appealing.

[JOSEY WALES]

There's no suggestion that anyone's "Ducking Him" as in avoiding him out of fear or the like, it's just they just don't rate him or couldn't be bothered.

The simple fact is that Khoder and Mundine have been working hard to get the guys that wanted but they're just not interested.

I would like him to lower his sights a little but apparently it's not an option. I reckon he should have given his all to a Kessler rematch , kessler's profile in Europe is Massive and getting bigger by the month in the $$$tate$$$ , the worst senario for Choc would have been another defeat to Kessler but at least the world would have been aware that you actually had a world class S/Middle operating out of Australia , it might have been one step backwards but in the longer run it might have tempted a massive name ( yank ) to consider a fight with him . the trouble is Mundine apears to be content being the big fish in a small pond , im not dissing Australia here either but he has to get out into the northern hemisphere some how and erase the memory of the Ottke Ko out of boxing fans minds .

[ajay11]

I reckon he should have given his all to a Kessler rematch , kessler's profile in Europe is Massive and getting bigger by the month in the $$$tate$$$ , the worst senario for Choc would have been another defeat to Kessler but at least the world would have been aware that you actually had a world class S/Middle operating out of Australia , it might have been one step backwards but in the longer run it might have tempted a massive name ( yank ) to consider a fight with him . the trouble is Mundine apears to be content being the big fish in a small pond , im not dissing Australia here either but he has to get out into the northern hemisphere some how and erase the memory of the Ottke Ko out of boxing fans minds .

Until we hear that Mundine v Green is offical I'm still holding on to the hope that he'll be fighting in the US come late October like it's been planned for almost 18 months!!!

I refuse to believe that he is content with the current situation, after all, all anyone has been told is that everything up until now has been part of a "Master Plan"

Now, onto the real issues...

JOSEY, do juniors still get oranges at halftime in Wales? Here in Oz it's been banned for sometime due to a rule that forbids kids getting food prepared by an adult other than their parent OR even handled by someone else.

"All kids must have their own drink bottle"

Think it sux that my boys will never have the benefit of natures mouthguard....don't you?

[ipswich express]

If Mundine fights in America this year, I'll be happy to ban myself for a year. It simply won't happen. Waaaaay more money to make fighting in Australia, and at the end of the day it's all about $.

[ajay11]

If Mundine fights in America this year, I'll be happy to ban myself for a year. It simply won't happen. Waaaaay more money to make fighting in Australia, and at the end of the day it's all about $.

Ego and realising a dream trumps $$$ when you're well in the green to begin with.

If an opportunity arises he'll jump at it because he honestly believes he can't be beaten at middleweight after doing so well at super.

He'd love nothing more than to be a superstar of world boxing, especially in the USA. Problem is who'd want to fight him? The unbeaten or well performed contenders don't want to risk anything until they get a crack at a title and the champions have bigger fish to fry.

[ipswich express]

Well, we'll have to see how it pans out. Let's just say I'm very confident he won't be fighting in the US by the end of the year ;)

[IrnBruMan]

Choc has found it hard to get the fights he wants overseas because he doesn't want to take on the lesser known fighters.

You really are determined to spin this any which way to make it look good for Mundine.

If he doesn't want to take on the lesser known fighters at MW, why the hell was he happy to take on so many lesser known fighters at SMW?

Is it because he is impatient to win a world title at MW because he's not getting any younger? If that's his reason, why did he avoid a rematch with Kessler, whcih would have been for the WBA SMW title?

Mundine is a joke, and so are you.

[pecks]

Well, we'll have to see how it pans out. Let's just say I'm very confident he won't be fighting in the US by the end of the year ;)If he fights in the US this year, I'll happily hack off my left nut with my own toothbrush.

Ajay, if you believe all the talk, then the master plan has been dating back to 2003, because even then he was talking about going to the US to make a profile, but of course we know that never happened.

Mundine is very impulsive in speaking so it seems. He has a fairly ambitious imagination, but in the end, doesn't have the desire to put it all on the line and step out into the deep end, nor does he have the ability to see things more than one step ahead.

[JOSEY WALES]

You really are determined to spin this any which way to make it look good for Mundine.

If he doesn't want to take on the lesser known fighters at MW, why the hell was he happy to take on so many lesser known fighters at SMW?

Is it because he is impatient to win a world title at MW because he's not getting any younger? If that's his reason, why did he avoid a rematch with Kessler, whcih would have been for the WBA SMW title?

Mundine is a joke, and so are you. Oh yea Sing it brother . :good