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satyriion
07-22-2007, 05:15 AM
Seems he is on his way back.
Super middleweight contender Librado Andrade (25-1, 19 KOs) destroyed Ted Muller (19-12-2, 9KOs) in two rounds. Muller was a late substitute who lost his last four bouts. Andrade rarely missed any of his power punches as he pounded Muller until the referee Tony Weeks stopped the fight.
Will he get a new titlefight ?
Is he such a shitty SMW as the Calzaghe fans claims ?
Who should he fight next
Smazz20
07-22-2007, 05:19 AM
I'd like to see him fight someone like Reid, Catley or even Beyer. Winnable fights for Andrade and he could learn quite a lot from fighting these kinda guys. That Muller fella was obviously a tomato can and just a confidence builder for Andrade. He now needs to step it up again.
Kegsy
07-22-2007, 05:48 AM
Andrade vs Oganov:yep
That would give some great fireworks.:deal
Smazz20
07-22-2007, 05:53 AM
I think Reid slaps him about and takes a pretty easy decision.
Andrade needs to refine his technique before he gets back into the ring with anyone with a good technique.
Well it's all about learning your craft. From the little i've seen of Andrade he does have severe limitations. However, he has to learn from somewhere and fighting the Ted Mullers of the world is not gonna cut it. Fighting past their best fighters like Reid, Catley and Beyer can give him some valuable experience.
boxfan99
07-22-2007, 06:39 AM
He is a shitty fighter - he went in against a guy who had lost his last four in a row, it wasn't like he was fighting anyone serious.
Until Andrade learns to throw punches from a balanced stance, how to use his pressure fighting style effectively and not just swing wildly, he's going to be beaten by 10-15 fighters in the SMW division
Guess who fought Muller just before Andrade did, yes that's right, Manfredo who you think will be a future SMW champ.:lol: And the incredible Manfredo used 9 rounds as opposed to Andrades 2 rounds to stop Muller. But I guess it is OK for Manfredo to fight Muller, because he is a former Calzaghe opponent which instantly makes him better than Kesslers opponents (Andrade) according to your logic, Blockhead.
I'm sure if Andrade had beaten a shot to pieces Pemberton you would have thought it was a so much better win, right?
New Wind
07-22-2007, 07:01 AM
hehe.
Muller is a can, obviously..
I agree that Andrade must step it up again. Maybe fight guys like Häussler, Brähmer or Larsen.
I think he would be in with a good shot at all three.
Froch would be interesting as well..
As for Blocky..
I think everyone here gets what you're doing, mate. Make Andrade look bad, because that makes Kessler look bad.
However, when Kessler destroys your darling stallion, where do you go? how can a bad bad Kessler beat your God? And what does that make JC?
I would want to go about this in the exact opposite fashion. Talk Andrade up a bit, thus making JC's win (if one such should come about) even bigger.
By talking Kessler down, you take glory away from your man.
what's the point in that?
LeedsLad
07-22-2007, 07:05 AM
Andrade has abit of power and a good chin. Dont try to build him up to be something hes not to pad up Kessler's limited record. Bika is a better win than Andrade. Andrade will be easily out-pointed by a decent boxer. The opponent was a joke btw.
New Wind
07-22-2007, 07:19 AM
haha, andrade dismantles bika in 5 rounds mate. That's not to build up Kessler, that's just saying that bika is shite, mate.
I thiunk that JC would murder Bika too, in a rematch where he has both hands to use, so I'm not taking anything away from joe either. Bika is just not very good.
deram
07-22-2007, 07:20 AM
Andrade has abit of power and a good chin. Dont try to build him up to be something hes not to pad up Kessler's limited record. Bika is a better win than Andrade. Andrade will be easily out-pointed by a decent boxer. The opponent was a joke btw.
Says you.
Andrade was universially ranked. For instnace the Ring had him 5th. Bika was unranked.
Don't make it sound like everyone thinks Bika is better, when reality is the opposite. Bika has lost plenty of times. So far Andrade has only lost one fight and that is to Kessler.
I know you want to make Joe look good, but lets keep it real.
satyriion
07-22-2007, 07:24 AM
Andrade has abit of power and a good chin. Dont try to build him up to be something hes not to pad up Kessler's limited record. Bika is a better win than Andrade. Andrade will be easily out-pointed by a decent boxer. The opponent was a joke btw.h
Yea and we all know what Bika's take on kessler-calzaghe is. And in this prediction he is joined with most of the other topfighters.
But imagine Calzaghe has eaten kessler's straight right hand 50-100 times. Can you feel Blockyshit let his ringmuscles go in agonizing pain and humiliation. The cold shivering feeling spreading from the buttom of his spine, to the rest of he degenerated body, reaching his brainwashed and dilusional brain.
When Joe lies on the canvas with spastic shivers uncontrollably shaking his legs like a vibratordildo. His eyes glazed and unfocused. Afterwards the tears and cryin. The unfathomable reality of a complete humiliation after being schooled for round after round.
I will respect Joe afterwards, but still despise Blocky a the little piece of shit he is.
satyriion
07-22-2007, 07:30 AM
I think Andrade will beat Manfredo to pieces. Making Calzaghe's winn even less significant.
After Kessler Joe can look back at having fougth shit for his last 2 pre kessler fights. Bika got beat by Bute, Manfredo by Andrade and Joe by Kessler.
A good kessler beating will diminish calzaghe legacy by gigantic proportions. He will be remembered as a protected hometown figther. Making 1 mandatory in 10 years and ducking such real champs as Ottke and Beyer.
Fat Tony
07-22-2007, 07:39 AM
I think Andrade will beat Manfredo to pieces.
Depends on the number of rounds. I think Manfredo would win most of the early rounds. In a 8-rounder, it could be a close fight.
But I don't think Manfredo can keep Andrade at bay for 12 rounds. Either T/KO 7-12 or something like 116:112 in favour of Andrade.
deram
07-22-2007, 07:49 AM
Manfredo would have a snow balls chance in hell. I would be surprised if he was there after 6 rounds. If he was I would be surprised if he had won a round.
Vantage_West
07-22-2007, 07:52 AM
I'd like to see him fight someone like Reid, Catley or even Beyer. Winnable fights for Andrade and he could learn quite a lot from fighting these kinda guys. That Muller fella was obviously a tomato can and just a confidence builder for Andrade. He now needs to step it up again.reid would beat him like nobody's business reids jab too fast counters too much and hjas a right hand (that might not ko him ) that will make andrade respect his wishes.
beyer was working his trade by fightting men like this men with sevre limitations while a all rounder like beyer wins the fight
...andrade is a big man with alot of heart but has limited skills no brutal power no techniqe, just like george foreman with out the immense power
Smazz20
07-22-2007, 07:55 AM
reid would beat him like nobody's business...andrade is a big man with alot of heart but has limited skills no brutal power no techniqe, just like george foreman with out the immense power
Maybe so. But my whole point is that fighters have to develop. Andrade won't develop very well if he's fighting tomato cans the whole time. He needs fights with people who will bring him to another level. Reid is one of those. Even if he lost it would be another good lerning curve.
Vantage_West
07-22-2007, 08:02 AM
Maybe so. But my whole point is that fighters have to develop. Andrade won't develop very well if he's fighting tomato cans the whole time. He needs fights with people who will bring him to another level. Reid is one of those. Even if he lost it would be another good lerning curve.well he should fight better fighters but not them...they got to be top 30 fighters maybe just a prospect or an old timer..the thing is bayer is a decent enough boxer to get to the top and reid is a destroyer when he wants to be just bad case in styles.
maybe he could fight many in a small period. maybe tomato cans but so many cans that he will understand how to fight
LeedsLad
07-22-2007, 08:19 AM
Says you.
Andrade was universially ranked. For instnace the Ring had him 5th. Bika was unranked.
Don't make it sound like everyone thinks Bika is better, when reality is the opposite. Bika has lost plenty of times. So far Andrade has only lost one fight and that is to Kessler.
I know you want to make Joe look good, but lets keep it real.
Says you.
Both havent beat anyone of any note, and both have lost when they've stepped up to fight the better fighters. Bika is rough and awkward, whereas with a decent jab and abit of boxing skill Andrade can easily be outboxed.
However, Andrade would murder Manfredo pretty early.
satyriion
07-22-2007, 08:23 AM
easily outboxed. You obviously dont know andrade. His ko percentage is skyhigh.
Smazz20
07-22-2007, 08:24 AM
easily outboxed. You obviously dont know andrade. His ko percentage is skyhigh.
Herol Graham v Julian Jackson
LeedsLad
07-22-2007, 08:26 AM
easily outboxed. You obviously dont know andrade. His ko percentage is skyhigh.
Man, i think you dont know what your talking about. So someone with a high KO percentage can't be easily outboxed?? :lol::lol: He'll be outboxed because hes got limited boxing skills, all hes got is a good chin and abit of dig.
Andrade has the chin from hell, but let's face it, he's built that record by fighthing guys just like he did last night. That fight was a joke. We all saw what happened when he stepped it up.
Sure Andrade has terrible boxing skills but he has a great chin. He has a decent punch and keeps coming forward. so his aggression and toughness will be enough to win a lot of fights at supermiddle and lightheavy, maybe not at the championship level but just below.
PeterNielsen70
07-22-2007, 10:46 AM
Don’t forget – an excellent fighter can make a pretty good fighter look bad. So I wouldn’t bad talk Andrade too much yet. Let us see him fight another fighter around top-10, and then witness if Andrade really can be easily out boxed. :bbb
Sure Andrade has terrible boxing skills but he has a great chin. He has a decent punch and keeps coming forward. so his aggression and toughness will be enough to win a lot of fights at supermiddle and lightheavy, maybe not at the championship level but just below.
i agree with this assesment.
Sonny Carson
07-22-2007, 10:53 AM
He just fought Kessler why can't he fight some bum to get his knockout record up than step up again.
LeedsLad
07-22-2007, 11:00 AM
He just fought Kessler why can't he fight some bum to get his knockout record up than step up again.
lol thats all the fight did, get his KO record up, he could of fought someone more competitive and actually learned something from the fight. Hes never going to improve to get to the level of Kessler/Calzaghe if hes stopping guys inside 2 rounds.
WestSideBoxer
07-22-2007, 12:26 PM
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the mean machine
07-22-2007, 12:47 PM
Should have try that move against Kessler
i'd like to see andrade knock the fuck out of mundine.
He just fought Kessler why can't he fight some bum to get his knockout record up than step up again.
Um, that's what he did.
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