View Full Version : top 5 Puerto Rican fighters of all time
Betty Swollocks
06-28-2008, 05:59 AM
help me to compile a list please :think
Thread Stealer
06-28-2008, 06:01 AM
Just to name a few.
Ortiz, Trinidad, Gomez, Dejesus, Benitez, Serrano, Rosario, Torres
El Matador
06-28-2008, 06:03 AM
Camacho
red cobra
06-28-2008, 08:19 AM
Ortiz, Gomez, Benitez, Camacho and Torres.
red cobra
06-28-2008, 08:20 AM
Excuse me, let's replace Torres with Trinidad.
Sweet Pea
06-28-2008, 10:48 AM
1. Carlos Ortiz
2. Felix Trinidad
3. Wilfred Benitez
4. Wilfredo Gomez
5. Hector Camacho
Sweet Pea
06-28-2008, 10:59 AM
Camacho? Did anybody see Chavez "toy" with him? How about Cotto replacing him?:roll:
Hatesrats
06-28-2008, 11:16 AM
If this is personal Top 5. [Here is mine]
1. Carlos Ortiz
2. Felix Trinidad
3. Wilfredo Gomez
4. Wilfred Benitez
5. Edwin Rosario
Some other names....[To Check Bro]
Jose Torres
Wilfredo Vazquez
Samuel Serrano
Juan La Porte
Carlos DeLeon
John John Molina
I guess I'll add Hector Camacho & John Ruiz aswell.
Sweet Pea
06-28-2008, 11:23 AM
If this is personal Top 5. [Here is mine]
1. Carlos Ortiz
2. Felix Trinidad
3. Wilfredo Gomez
4. Wilfred Benitez
5. Edwin Rosario
Some other names....[To Check Bro]
Jose Torres
Wilfredo Vazquez
Samuel Serrano
Juan La Porte
Carlos DeLeon
John John Molina
I guess I'll add Hector Camacho & John Ruiz aswell.Is there a particular reason you rate Camacho so low? Along with Ruiz? Rosario in the top 5 despite losing to Camacho and having a lesser overall career?
Betty Swollocks
06-28-2008, 11:26 AM
thanks for the lists and a couple of new names to check out.
Hector Camacho and John Ruiz in the same orbit? You definitely know more than me but it made me laugh all the same.
Hatesrats
06-28-2008, 11:28 AM
Is there a particular reason you rate Camacho so low? Along with Ruiz? Rosario in the top 5 despite losing to Camacho and having a lesser overall career?
Don't like that style..[I did say Personal 5]
same reason I put Gomez above Benitez.
chino2dapiapimp
07-03-2008, 10:08 PM
Camacho? Did anybody see Chavez "toy" with him? How about Cotto replacing him?
Chavez would beat Cotto too.
chino2dapiapimp
07-03-2008, 10:11 PM
I say Gomez, Trinidad, Calderon,Benitez, Ortiz, and Camacho and LaPorte fighting for 6th place.
Larson
07-03-2008, 10:11 PM
1. Carlos Ortiz
2. Felix Trinidad
3. Wilfred Benitez
4. Wilfredo Gomez
5. Hector Camacho
Yes.
redrooster
07-03-2008, 10:18 PM
In the 80s
Camacho then Gomez then Benitez. Hector had the most sucess never having lost from 1980 to 1990. Most people dont even know that!
Next you could say Gomez was a little more successful than Wifred Benitez
Robbi
07-03-2008, 10:25 PM
In the 80s
Camacho then Gomez then Benitez. Hector had the most sucess never having lost from 1980 to 1990. Most people dont even know that!
Next you could say Gomez was a little more successful than Wifred Benitez
:yikes
JohnThomas1
07-04-2008, 03:56 AM
In the 80s
Camacho then Gomez then Benitez. Hector had the most sucess never having lost from 1980 to 1990. Most people dont even know that!
Next you could say Gomez was a little more successful than Wifred Benitez
Of course much of Gomez' and Benitez' best work was latter 70's :lol:
Overall they both tower miles above Camacho, and then some. Camacho never beat an absolute topline fighter in his prime.
redrooster
07-04-2008, 07:34 AM
I fogot Hector had a later start but still he could say he went an enitre decade without losing. Wifred started out and lost after 7 years as a pro while Gomez was brutally destroyed by Sanchez who wasnt even a big puncher. Rosario was reputed to be the big puncher but Hector still beat him good.
Pat_Lowe
07-04-2008, 07:47 AM
I fogot Hector had a later start but still he could say he went an enitre decade without losing. Wifred started out and lost after 7 years as a pro while Gomez was brutally destroyed by Sanchez who wasnt even a big puncher. Rosario was reputed to be the big puncher but Hector still beat him good.
Reputed? He managed to shake Camacho like never before.
JohnThomas1
07-04-2008, 08:04 AM
I fogot Hector had a later start but still he could say he went an enitre decade without losing. Wifred started out and lost after 7 years as a pro while Gomez was brutally destroyed by Sanchez who wasnt even a big puncher. Rosario was reputed to be the big puncher but Hector still beat him good.
Went undefeated, but who did he beat? Who was his best win?
Also, most scored the fight for Rosario as SS has told you countless times.
redrooster
07-04-2008, 08:20 AM
Reputed? He managed to shake Camacho like never before.
Shaken him yes but winning one round big doesnt win you a fight. What about all the other rounds which he lost. Hector wins nine rounds to Rosario's paltry three :smoke
redrooster
07-04-2008, 08:26 AM
Went undefeated, but who did he beat? Who was his best win?
Also, most scored the fight for Rosario as SS has told you countless times.
Yes but it's the OFFICIAL SCORE that counts remember? That's why Sugar Ray Leonard owns that win over Hagler. Even though a split decision isnt as strong as unanimous it's still valid. And we all have to abide by the rules no matter how many may argue against it. :smoke
JohnThomas1
07-04-2008, 08:32 AM
Shaken him yes but winning one round big doesnt win you a fight. What about all the other rounds which he lost. Hector wins nine rounds to Rosario's paltry three :smoke
Which shows both your ability to score and shrug off favouritism :nut
Minotauro
07-04-2008, 09:59 AM
1. Wilfredo Gomez
2. Wilfred Benitez
3. Carlos Ortiz
4. Felix Trinidad
5. Cocoa Kid (If he really was Puerto Rican)
sues2nd
07-04-2008, 10:04 AM
:yikes
All I can say is...Well said Robbi...well said.
:lol:
sweet_scientist
07-04-2008, 10:07 PM
1. Carlos Ortiz
2. Wilfred Benitez
3. Wilfredo Gomez
4. Felix Trinidad
5. Esteban Dejesus
Pedro Montanez and Cocoa Kid could conceivably take a spot in the top 5.
Sweet Pea
07-04-2008, 11:06 PM
I say Gomez, Trinidad, Calderon,Benitez, Ortiz, and Camacho and LaPorte fighting for 6th place.Not a chance in hell Calderon rates above either, especially Camacho.
PR p4p #1
07-04-2008, 11:14 PM
Chavez would beat Cotto too.
wrong!!:patsch
natonic
07-10-2008, 01:12 AM
1. Wilfredo Gomez
2. Carlos Ortiz
3. Tito Trinidad
4. Wilfred Benitez
5. Edwin Rosario
Cotto needs a couple more wins to supplant Rosario IMO
chino2dapiapimp
07-10-2008, 01:15 AM
I say Gomez, Trinidad, Calderon,Benitez, Ortiz, and Camacho and LaPorte fighting for 6th place.
while if cotto beats margo he than gets passed rosario who is 7th
the cobra
07-10-2008, 01:40 AM
#1. Wilfredo Gomez
#2. Felix Trinidad
#3. Carlos Ortiz
#4. Wilfred Benitez
#5. Esteban DeJesus
Camacho is right off at #6, and if Cotto beats Margarito, He may deserve to be put in the top 5 (depending on how impressive the win is).
El Borracho
07-10-2008, 02:44 PM
thanks for the lists and a couple of new names to check out.
Hector Camacho and John Ruiz in the same orbit? You definitely know more than me but it made me laugh all the same.
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red cobra
07-10-2008, 06:36 PM
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Man, just seeing that Tua ko of Ruiz is why I can't give up hope for the Tuaman! I really believe that somehow he can do that again.
natonic
07-10-2008, 10:37 PM
#1. Wilfredo Gomez
#2. Felix Trinidad
#3. Carlos Ortiz
#4. Wilfred Benitez
#5. Esteban DeJesus
Camacho is right off at #6, and if Cotto beats Margarito, He may deserve to be put in the top 5 (depending on how impressive the win is).
Damn, I forgot about Dejesus. Anybody who beat Duran and knocked him down twice was a great fighter.
the cobra
07-11-2008, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by natonic
Damn, I forgot about Dejesus. Anybody who beat Duran and knocked him down twice was a great fighter.
Dejesus handing Duran the only loss of his career in his first 74 fights and 13 years as a pro, plus the only loss below 147lbs, is a very impressive achievement. DeJesus along with Ken Buchanan are also really the only guys who were really remotely competitive with Duran when they lost, even though he practically dominated those fights as well. Apart from the win over Duran, DeJesus also beat Jr. Welterweight champ Alfonso "Peppermint" Frasier, top lightweight contender Ray Lampkin, and WBC 135lbs titlist Ishimatsu "Guts" Sazuki by a shutout. He beat several other top lightweights of the 70's as well. He is often overlooked.
papolamuerte
07-11-2008, 09:12 AM
#1. Wilfredo Gomez
#2. Felix Trinidad
#3. Carlos Ortiz
#4. Wilfred Benitez
#5. Esteban DeJesus
Those are my favorite 5 Boricua Warriors of all time, however, I would switch Tito to #4, and make Betinez #2...A name I would most likely throw in there also would be El Salsero Escalera, who can forget him....
Good list though.....
:good
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