Best P4P fighter in any combat sport

[Dostoevsky]

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Buakaw Por. Pramuk

408 fights.
358-45-5

Since he started his fighting career at the young age of 8, Buakaw has fought over 400 fights, starting in his home province of Surin in the northeast of Thailand, and then moving onto Bangkok after he moved to Por. Pramuk gym at the age of 15.
Buakaw has collected several belts to his name since fighting in Bangkok. The Omnoi Stadium featherweight title was his first belt, after that he would go on to take the featherweight champion of Thailand title. Buakaw then proceeded to win another Omnoi Stadium title belt, this time at in lightweight division. In December 2002, Buakaw won the Toyota Marathon 140 lb. tournament at Lumpini Stadium, beating the highly regarded Kobayashi of Japan in the final.
In July of 2004 Buakaw became the K-1 MAX World champion beating John Wayne Parr, Takayuki Kohiruimaki and previous champion Masato, all on the same night. In 2005 he nearly repeated his run for tournament champion but lost a controversial extra rounds decision to Dutch shoot-boxer, Andy Souwer in the finals. In the 2006 K-1 MAX World Grand Prix, Buakaw again faced Andy Souwer in the finals, but this time defeated Souwer by KO with a flurry of punches, thereby winning his second K-1 MAX Grand Prix title and becoming the first man to win that title twice.

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This guy is quite frankly, a total legend, started professional fighting at 8....astounding.
In my opinion the best P4P fighter of any combat sport and especially Muay Thai!

[Beebs]

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Buvaisar Saitiev
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Olympic medalist

Buvaisar Saitiev
Medal record
wrestling
Gold Atlanta 1996 Men's freestyle 74 kg
Gold Athens 2004 Men's freestyle 74 kg
Buvaisar Hamidovich Saitiev, also spelled Buvaysa Hamidovich Saytiev, (Chechen: Бувайса Хамидович Сайтиев) (born in March 11, 1975 in Khasavyurt, Dagestan) is a Chechen wrestler who is a five-time world champion and who won gold medals at the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta and 2004 Summer Olympics in Athens. His younger brother Adam Saitiev, also a wrestler, won gold at the 2000 Summer Olympics.

Buvaisar left his home in Khasavyurt in 1992 with an old friend to train in Krasnoyarsk, as the city had one of the most distinguished wrestling training programs in the country, many of whose alumni had competed for the Russian national team. It was soon after graduation that he had become eligible for the national team.

Buvaisar won his first gold medal in Atlanta, when he defeated Park Jang-Soon of South Korea in a score of 5-0. He then went undefeated in every major wrestling competition, until he was defeated in a stunning upset in the 2000 Summer Olympics in Sydney against American Brandon Slay, who was eventually awarded gold. Buvaisar would later go on to secure gold again at the 2004 Summer Olympics in Athens by defeating Kazakh Gennadiy Laliyev in a score of 7-0. [1]

Buvaisar has been decorated with the Order of Friendship by the Russian president. He has also been crowned as European champion in 2000 and 2001. He was named the Freestyle Wrestler of the Year by the International Wrestling Federation in 1996 and 1998.

Buvaisar has been training in Krasnoyarsk for the past several years. On February 14, 2007, Newslab reported that he had resumed training after a neck-bone trauma. [2] He intends to compete in the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing.

Buvaisar is a supporter and friend of Chechen warlord-turned-president Ramzan Kadyrov. Kommersant reported on March 22, 2007 that Buvaisar had visited Kadyrov in a Moscow hotel to offer advice to the new Chechen leader

[Donut62]

Of all time? Alexander Karelin. Buakaw is the best p4p striker in the world right now I think, either him or Mayweather. Sugar Ray is hard to argue against for all time in any combat sport.

[Dostoevsky]

No, just at the moment, not of all time.

[Beebs]

Bump, I think this is a promising thread.

[ravtrav]

I Think P4p In Mma Has To Be B.j. Penn Hands Down!

[dwilson]

Great thread people. Hope it carries on. Buakaw is a sensation and Saitiev was very impressive in Atlanta, I managed to catch some of his displays back then.

[digiram]

He's my favorite kickboxer and the clear cut best P4P in K-1. I'd like to Buakaw vs a prime Dekkers.

OoooH..That would be good. I'd have to go with Dekkers in a Muay Thai fight. That guy's a legend.

[younghypnotiq]

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Buakaw Por. Pramuk

408 fights.
358-45-5

Since he started his fighting career at the young age of 8, Buakaw has fought over 400 fights, starting in his home province of Surin in the northeast of Thailand, and then moving onto Bangkok after he moved to Por. Pramuk gym at the age of 15.
Buakaw has collected several belts to his name since fighting in Bangkok. The Omnoi Stadium featherweight title was his first belt, after that he would go on to take the featherweight champion of Thailand title. Buakaw then proceeded to win another Omnoi Stadium title belt, this time at in lightweight division. In December 2002, Buakaw won the Toyota Marathon 140 lb. tournament at Lumpini Stadium, beating the highly regarded Kobayashi of Japan in the final.
In July of 2004 Buakaw became the K-1 MAX World champion beating John Wayne Parr, Takayuki Kohiruimaki and previous champion Masato, all on the same night. In 2005 he nearly repeated his run for tournament champion but lost a controversial extra rounds decision to Dutch shoot-boxer, Andy Souwer in the finals. In the 2006 K-1 MAX World Grand Prix, Buakaw again faced Andy Souwer in the finals, but this time defeated Souwer by KO with a flurry of punches, thereby winning his second K-1 MAX Grand Prix title and becoming the first man to win that title twice.

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This guy is quite frankly, a total legend, started professional fighting at 8....astounding.
In my opinion the best P4P fighter of any combat sport and especially Muay Thai!

alot of thai fighters go pro at 8

[Dostoevsky]

I wish boxers fought as frequently as Muay Tahi fighters or kickboxers.

Hes had 408 fights and hes only 25?
Mayweathers 30 and only had 38!

Boxers should fight more often.

[younghypnotiq]

i agree

[BewareofDawg]

:lol:
Talent-wise he is.

[alewaboy52]

there are many you can arugue for all time, but as of right now you gotta go with dan henderson in my opinion, i mean he currently holds both the 183 and 205 pride titles, hes fought at heavyweight, and not just against anybody, serious competition including a win early in his career over noguera

[Dostoevsky]

there are many you can arugue for all time, but as of right now you gotta go with dan henderson in my opinion, i mean he currently holds both the 183 and 205 pride titles, hes fought at heavyweight, and not just against anybody, serious competition including a win early in his career over noguera

Hell no, the most overrated fighter on the planet.

[alewaboy52]

Hell no, the most overrated fighter on the planet.

may i ask as to why

[Dostoevsky]

He just has so many questionable gift decisions.

IMO, He lost against Rodrigo Nogueira(first fight), Murilo Bustamante (2nd fight) Carlos Newton and Murilo Rua.
ManyMany of his fights have been very close.
he gets a good win over a sick Wanderlei and is now hailed as a p4p god!
No way.

[Dostoevsky]

Hell no...you're WAYY wrong!
Especially about the Bustamante fight, Bustamante whupped him for 14:30 minutes, and then for 30 seconds Hendo does well, and gets the decision?
Who gives a shit if he has 2 belts, 1 one them he got unfairly from a joke of a decision, then he got got his second belt from beating a sick Wanderlei.

He is so overrated, he has so many gift decisions, the Kondo fight could have gone against him as well.

Only reason why he won so much is probably because Pride wanted to have an American champion to allure the US market.

Bustamante should be the Pride WW champ, NOT Dan.
Wanderlei should have pulled out of the fight with Dan while he was so sick. :nod

I fully expect Rampage to beat the utter crap out of him come September.
Henderson is the MMA version of Byrd for getting gift decisions.:nod

[Dostoevsky]

Oh yeah, Ninja beat Henderson!
Ok, Hendo hurt Ninja in the 3rd round but Ninja took him down at will and outwrestled him all night!
Ninja got shafted in that decision just like he did against Rampage :twisted:

[Beebs]

I wish boxers fought as frequently as Muay Tahi fighters or kickboxers.

Hes had 408 fights and hes only 25?
Mayweathers 30 and only had 38!

Boxers should fight more often.

Most of Floyds fights have been 10 or 12 rounders, most Thai fighters are 3 rounders.

[Beebs]

Hell no...you're WAYY wrong!
Especially about the Bustamante fight, Bustamante whupped him for 14:30 minutes, and then for 30 seconds Hendo does well, and gets the decision?
Who gives a shit if he has 2 belts, 1 one them he got unfairly from a joke of a decision, then he got got his second belt from beating a sick Wanderlei.

He is so overrated, he has so many gift decisions, the Kondo fight could have gone against him as well.

Only reason why he won so much is probably because Pride wanted to have an American champion to allure the US market.

Bustamante should be the Pride WW champ, NOT Dan.
Wanderlei should have pulled out of the fight with Dan while he was so sick. :nod

I fully expect Rampage to beat the utter crap out of him come September.
Henderson is the MMA version of Byrd for getting gift decisions.:nod

Busta lost that fight, Dan was much closer to finishing it, and that was the determining factor, same with Ninja, that is how Pride was scored.

And even if all your bullshit was true, he is still the #1 185er in the world, still beat Wanderleis ass for 3 rounds before knocking him cold, and still is a top guy at 205, therefore he deserves mention when talking about pfp best, at least in MMA.

[ufoalf]

As much as i hate to admit it. Win is a Win. You might disagree with the decision that was made but that doesn't mean others do. Just because he didn't finish or dominate the whole fight doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the W. If you watch Olympic or even college wrestling you'll almost never see any pins. Cause at such levels what determines the W or L are very very subtle things, such as aggression.

He is not p4p god by any means but he's not a nobody when it comes to p4p either.

[werety]

I dont really know how ramon dekkers would fare against baukaw. I mean he lost to a green, 18 year old sakmongkol ( dont know if i spelled that right) who proved that dekker's clinch game was really weak and that his rythm could be broken with an effective hand and foot jab (teep.) I think dekkers would actually stand a better chance in k-1 than in muay thai against baukaw who still has an awesome muay thai clinch game even though he fights in k-1.

[werety]

And for the best p4p fighter in any combat sport how about samart payakaroon. He was a boxing champion until he was beaten by jeff fenech, no shame in that and he is considered by many to be the greatest muay thai fighter of all time. Being a world champion boxer and being called the greatest muay thai fighter by someone like jongsanan fairtex is pretty impressive to me.