View Full Version : Bernard Hopkins v Bob Fitzimmons At 168
McGrain
07-22-2007, 06:17 PM
15 rounds. The ruleset from 1955.
Dempsey1238
07-22-2007, 06:20 PM
Fitz ko 1.
McGrain
07-22-2007, 06:21 PM
Fitz ko 1.
You really think so? That seems a little ridiculous to me.
Dempsey1238
07-22-2007, 06:23 PM
Man may the Fitz be with you.
McGrain
07-22-2007, 06:24 PM
Man may the Fitz be with you.
:lol:
Dempsey1238
07-22-2007, 06:28 PM
Before the crash we had a list on Fitz. After the crash the list is gone. Pretty good list.
I rember
You dont bring a knife to a gun fight, and you dont bring a gun to a Fitz fight.
Superman had to give up his name, Fitz wanted it back.
The East coast ask Fitz to stop doing his landary in the ocean, He was starting Twisters when washing his cloths.
And a LOT other things. Wish some one can repost that list.
McGrain
07-22-2007, 06:32 PM
Fitz was a wonderful fighter; I have him above Hopkins all time at MW (5 & 6 so it's close).
But I think Fitz could be outboxed by the right man.
Maxmomer
07-22-2007, 08:05 PM
Before the crash we had a list on Fitz. After the crash the list is gone. Pretty good list.
I rember
You dont bring a knife to a gun fight, and you dont bring a gun to a Fitz fight.
Superman had to give up his name, Fitz wanted it back.
The East coast ask Fitz to stop doing his landary in the ocean, He was starting Twisters when washing his cloths.
And a LOT other things. Wish some one can repost that list.
Aren't those all just Chuck Norris jokes?
Dempsey1238
07-22-2007, 08:15 PM
We replace Norris's name with Fitz I suppose. But we all know Norris would have been ko in round 1 vs Fitz.
unitas
07-22-2007, 08:18 PM
from what i have seen of fitz he doesnt have the skill to handle a modern fighter like hopkins.
hopkins cuts him down with the jab, then takes him out. fitz may floor bernard with a bomb.........but hopkins would get up and survive.
i see a busted up bob getting taken out by the ref in round 13.
Seamus
07-22-2007, 09:02 PM
from what i have seen of fitz he doesnt have the skill to handle a modern fighter like hopkins
sacrilege in these parts but true.
rekcutnevets
07-22-2007, 09:05 PM
Hopkins is too skilled for Fitz. Hopkins by stoppage. Too much leather on Ruby Rob, even in his time.
Maxmomer
07-22-2007, 09:16 PM
We replace Norris's name with Fitz I suppose. But we all know Norris would have been ko in round 1 vs Fitz.
I don't know, Norris was a pretty vicious Karate fighter back in the day.
Bad_Intentions
07-22-2007, 10:05 PM
hopkins.
McGrain
07-23-2007, 06:11 AM
from what i have seen of fitz he doesnt have the skill to handle a modern fighter like hopkins.
hopkins cuts him down with the jab, then takes him out. fitz may floor bernard with a bomb.........but hopkins would get up and survive.
i see a busted up bob getting taken out by the ref in round 13.
A lot of what you say is reasonable, but I don't see Hopkins stopping Fitz by way of the ruleset we are using. I also don't agree that Hopkkins would get up. Fitz had the one punch power to stop heavyweights. If Hopkins gets hit he stays hit and if he is dropped he is stopped.
The question is, can he Hopkins outbox his man for every single round of a 15 round match up?
JohnThomas1
07-23-2007, 06:23 AM
I don't know, Norris was a pretty vicious Karate fighter back in the day.
World Professional Heavyweight Karate champion wasn't he? Around the time he made the movie with Bruce Lee?
JohnThomas1
07-23-2007, 06:24 AM
Hopkins modern but old school class takes him home here. Ruby's pretty tough and Hop is no Hearn's, maybe by decision.
McGrain
07-23-2007, 06:27 AM
Hopkins modern but old school class takes him home here. Ruby's pretty tough and Hop is no Hearn's, maybe by decision.
This is one of only two possible results i think, the other of course being Fitz by KO. Given that it's a 15 round contest i'm going to say that Fitz would get him at some point.
Put it this way; i'd be comfortable laying money on a Fitz KO but I could never place money on a Hopkins points win and feel at ease.
JohnThomas1
07-23-2007, 06:34 AM
This is one of only two possible results i think, the other of course being Fitz by KO. Given that it's a 15 round contest i'm going to say that Fitz would get him at some point.
Put it this way; i'd be comfortable laying money on a Fitz KO but I could never place money on a Hopkins points win and feel at ease.
To be honest while i appreciate Fitz in his time i don't rate him that highly in ours.
McGrain
07-23-2007, 06:36 AM
To be honest while i appreciate Fitz in his time i don't rate him that highly in ours.
I understand (though don't agree); but you can't think his power is less impressive at 160 for it being 100 years in the future?
Doppleganger
07-23-2007, 08:05 AM
Fitz under his ruleset and B-Hop under modern rules. I don't see any stoppages. It's very difficult to compare fighters from Fitz's era compared to today as it's a different sport almost.
Holmes' Jab
07-23-2007, 08:24 AM
Hopkins could well take this one by decision and has the skills to outbox Fitz, he couldn't afford to get too cute, though. If Fitz floors him, he would most likely finish the contest.
Still: Hopkins, by close but clear decision. Not an easy fight. :good
McGrain
07-23-2007, 05:57 PM
. It's very difficult to compare fighters from Fitz's era compared to today as it's a different sport almost.
Sure; that's why I always try to pick a ruleset from in between the two eras.
janitor
07-23-2007, 06:04 PM
15 rounds. The ruleset from 1955.
Glove size would be an important factor.
Making another midleweight take body punches from Fitz with 4oz gloves would be cruelty to children.
I think that the 15 round distence combined with an 8oz glove would shift the situation enough in Hopkin's backyard for him to manage a UD.
cross_trainer
07-23-2007, 06:09 PM
World Professional Heavyweight Karate champion wasn't he? Around the time he made the movie with Bruce Lee?
Non-contact or touch-contact middleweight championship, I believe...but they often hit each other full force anyway, so it doesn't matter. He had two years as the #1 guy on the point circuit.
Also did grappling with Gene Lebell, so he's definitely a legitimate fighter. Nevertheless, Fitz would mash him.
Stonehands89
07-24-2007, 08:50 AM
To be honest while i appreciate Fitz in his time i don't rate him that highly in ours.
I concur with you. The power of the mighty Fitz cannot be discounted and if he lands, Hopkins would get rattled, but I'd go with him anyway.
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