View Full Version : hopkins should be Ranked above jones in the HOF
faisal
07-22-2007, 07:40 PM
i think most people are aware of this fact, indeed jones beat hopkins, but jones will never be a complete fighter as bernard no way, as jones aged his skills faded away, he's not half the fighter he once was, in my opinion Hopkins should be rated above jones as the best fighter of the last 2 decades.
paulfv
07-22-2007, 07:41 PM
Agreed, and that's before a rematch between the 2
bigguy555
07-22-2007, 08:46 PM
I agree and if they do rematch B-Hop is going to beat Jones for sure
bhwbj
07-22-2007, 09:40 PM
So you think Hopkins is better alltime because he's better then Jones was post-prime? I'm sorry, but I rate a fighter based on how good they were in their prime. Lots of fighters have gone downhill once their reflexes started to fade( look at Sugar Ray Leneord ). Why should Jones be held to tougher standards? In his prime, Jones was too good for his own good and now that fact appears to be haunting him.....People hate the guy because he was so damn good.
Sure, an aged Hopkins is better then a washed-up Jones....but who cares. When you look back at a fighter( legacy etc. ) you look at their prime years. Prime Jones is clearly better then Prime Hopkins.
Jones should be ranked higher.
paulfv
07-22-2007, 09:43 PM
if they do rematch B-Hop is going to beat Jones for sure
Yes
KO Boxing
07-22-2007, 09:50 PM
Each to their own, and that's your opinion. There's no should about it. That's just rather opinionated, and I'm of the opinion that people who are opinionated usually have opinions that suck balls. :hey
Overall, this board thinks differently (contrary to your most people are aware of this fact line), based on the current poll - 60-65% have Roy as the greater fighter.
KO Boxing
07-22-2007, 09:52 PM
Yes
And it would do nothing to EITHER legacy, I'm sorry. It would certainly not take away from Roy's if he lost (about as much as Ali losing to Berbick)...
The only thing it could REALLY do is take AWAY from Hopkins legacy... Surely Hops isn't only prepared to fight a shot Jones, when he had the clear chance to avenge his loss against a prime Jones (but priced himself out)?
That's a bit cowardly...
Fight Joe and then retire one of the greats, Bernard!
paulfv
07-22-2007, 10:00 PM
And it would do nothing to EITHER legacy, I'm sorry. It would certainly not take away from Roy's if he lost (about as much as Ali losing to Berbick)...
The only thing it could REALLY do is take AWAY from Hopkins legacy... Surely Hops isn't only prepared to fight a shot Jones, when he had the clear chance to avenge his loss against a prime Jones (but priced himself out)?
That's a bit cowardly...
Fight Joe and then retire one of the greats, Bernard!
Spoken like a true RJJ fan who is afraid the old man will whup-up on the china-chinned wonder. LOL!!!! :rofl:rofl
KO Boxing
07-22-2007, 10:03 PM
Spoken like a true RJJ fan who is afraid the old man will whup-up on the china-chinned wonder. LOL!!!! :rofl:rofl
I would love to see RJJ-Hops 2... and right now.
And I'd favour Hops to kick his ass...
Doesn't make him the greater fighter, I'm sorry...
I've used it many times before, but I'll use it one more time... Is Berbick better than Ali? Nope. :hey
SUNOF7
07-22-2007, 11:36 PM
When you look back at a fighter you lookk at the total career. Hopkins is beating guys considered to be the best in the sport. He beat Tarver the lineal lightheavyweight champion at 41 and then he beat Wright at 42. Hopkins has the second longest uninterrupted title reign in history, second only to Joe Louis... He has the career defense record at middleweight. Jones has a heavyweight win over Ruiz, but he was KO'd in succession by guys given little credit by many in Tarver and Johnson. These guys are regarded as being not on Jones level yet they both KO him consecutively. This is not in the equation of HOPkins career. Hopkins is the Greater fighter with greater accomplishments. He will go down a legend...Roy is struggling to maintain his anity- his legacy tainted by two vivid consecutive KO losses
thewoo
07-22-2007, 11:49 PM
42. Hopkins has the second longest uninterrupted title reign in history, second only to Joe Louis
I think that you meant to say third behind Joe Louis and Ricardo Lopez :deal
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