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Jack
07-06-2008, 01:06 AM
Who takes this one?

Sweet Pea
07-06-2008, 01:51 AM
Buchanan is at least a level above Hatton.

red cobra
07-06-2008, 10:24 AM
Buchanan is at least a level above Hatton.
I think he's at least TWO levels above Hatton. Buchanan would have humiliated Hatton. Ken proved his skills in career, but he proved his TOUGHNESS in that fight with Duran. He would have taken anything Hatton would be lucky enough to land with contemptous ease and would have punished him in return. NO CONTEST. A shutout for Ken, whether over 12 or 15 rounds.

teeto
07-06-2008, 10:27 AM
If this fight is totally fair weight-wise, then i think Hatton hasnt got the creativity to do anything with a great boxer like Ken, Buchannan will box him and at times it may be a schooling, not consistently throughout though, but Buchannan would win a wide decision imo.

biglads
07-06-2008, 01:34 PM
Buchanan by points or cuts.

196osh
07-06-2008, 01:38 PM
Ken would win this one wide.

Buchanan Wide UD

Holmes' Jab
07-06-2008, 01:41 PM
Is this a serious question? Hatton doesn't sign the contract, if he did he'd lose comprehensively.

Stonehands89
07-06-2008, 03:14 PM
I'm ignoring the question out of respect for Ken the Magnificent. Let's replace it with another one: who would win, The Mighty Thor or the Wiggles?

teeto
07-06-2008, 04:44 PM
I'm ignoring the question out of respect for Ken the Magnificent. Let's replace it with another one: who would win, The Mighty Thor or the Wiggles?
Haha

salsanchezfan
07-06-2008, 06:13 PM
I'm ignoring the question out of respect for Ken the Magnificent. Let's replace it with another one: who would win, The Mighty Thor or the Wiggles?


............:think


Perhaps a poll is in order?

Hatesrats
07-06-2008, 06:25 PM
To not give Ricky Hatton a chance against Buchanan is wrong. IMO
The slugger Vs. the slickster will always have it's styles prob's for both...
(Does not always favor the "Boxer")

Hatton at his best would swarm and unleash combo's on the inside while pasted to his opponent's chest.
And is a tuff' lil' fucker aswell to boot.
(Defo not Duran, But on the inside Hatton's pressure is pretty good himself)

Buchanan would prob etch out a Decision.
But to say it would be a blowout...I'm not to sure.

(It would still be 140lbs vs. a 135)

Stonehands89
07-06-2008, 07:38 PM
To not give Ricky Hatton a chance against Buchanan is wrong. IMO
The slugger Vs. the slickster will always have it's styles prob's for both...
(Does not always favor the "Boxer")

Hatton at his best would swarm and unleash combo's on the inside while pasted to his opponent's chest.
And is a tuff' lil' fucker aswell to boot.
(Defo not Duran, But on the inside Hatton's pressure is pretty good himself)

Buchanan would prob etch out a Decision.
But to say it would be a blowout...I'm not to sure.

(It would still be 140lbs vs. a 135)

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Stonehands89
07-06-2008, 07:40 PM
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The Mighty Ken would take 4 Ricky Hattons.

Hatesrats
07-06-2008, 07:42 PM
I like the "Classic" look Thor myself...

Stonehands89
07-06-2008, 08:11 PM
I like the "Classic" look Thor myself...
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^ that ain't him.

McGrain
07-06-2008, 08:19 PM
I have absolutley no doubt that Hatton would do an awful lot better than some people seem to think. He's rough and persistant.

He'd lose, but I see it close but clear, assuming Hatton doesn't cut up.

Jack
07-06-2008, 08:27 PM
I have absolutley no doubt that Hatton would do an awful lot better than some people seem to think. He's rough and persistant.

He'd lose, but I see it close but clear, assuming Hatton doesn't cut up.
Agreed. I think Hatton's style is contrasting enough to make the fight interesting. I imagine he would lose 9/12 or 10/15 rounds, but that probably doesn't tell the whole story. I imagine it would be a close fight overall, but Buchanan should win the majority of the rounds.

Stonehands89
07-06-2008, 08:50 PM
I have absolutley no doubt that Hatton would do an awful lot better than some people seem to think. He's rough and persistant.

He'd lose, but I see it close but clear, assuming Hatton doesn't cut up.
All playing aside, I agree.

red cobra
07-06-2008, 08:51 PM
Ken Buchanan at his best would shut out Ricky Hatton at his best and make Ricky look like an amateur.

McGrain
07-06-2008, 08:54 PM
Ken Buchanan at his best would shut out Ricky Hatton at his best and make Ricky look like an amateur.


You must hold Tszyu in very low regard? Or Ken in very very very high regard?



Christ, I accidently scrolled through the thread history there, some disturbing frigging pictures in this bad boy.

john garfield
07-06-2008, 08:58 PM
Is this a serious question? Hatton doesn't sign the contract, if he did he'd lose comprehensively.

HJ,

Is the picture in your avatar Barney Ross? If so, what prompted ya to use it?

Sweet Pea
07-06-2008, 09:02 PM
You must hold Tszyu in very low regard? Or Ken in very very very high regard?
Tszyu was clearly past his best by the time Hatton got to him.

McGrain
07-06-2008, 09:04 PM
Tszyu was clearly past his best by the time Hatton got to him.

Sure was, but not shot.

sweet_scientist
07-07-2008, 07:57 AM
Hatton would stay close for about 8 rounds imo, but would get thoroughly owned down the stretch and most probably stopped over 15.

Buchanan is simply too well schooled and Ricky holds no real advantage over him, not infighting, and not conditioning either.

Ken will permanently brand Hatton with his jab and when Hatton slows up just a touch, he gets worked over.

McGrain
07-07-2008, 08:22 AM
Sweet_Scientist, do you think Hatton can sustain a higher workrate?

Do you think he is bigger?

sweet_scientist
07-07-2008, 08:32 AM
Sweet_Scientist, do you think Hatton can sustain a higher workrate?

Do you think he is bigger?
I don't think Hatton has a better workrate, but he is bigger, and he may be physically stronger when it comes to grappling and smothering. But Ken was tough as nails and he could easily take anything Hatton dishes up to him imo and return fire with interest.

In any case though, once Hatton loses a bit of sharpness and can't move in to grapple with the speed of the initial rounds, he will start to get beat down and ultimately stopped I think.

PowerPuncher
07-07-2008, 08:45 AM
Buchanon never fought above 135, Hatton weighs 155-160 on fight night because of day prior weigh ins, Hattons 15lb + weight advantage would give him the huge weight advantage here. All the same Buchanons skill and movement keeps him in the fight but Hatton would be so much bigger, stronger and harder hitting. I see it going the same as Duran-Buchanon but Ken lasts the distance

Bummy Davis
07-07-2008, 08:45 AM
I like Buchanan here in a close UD

Mantequilla
07-07-2008, 08:50 AM
Buchanon never fought above 135, Hatton weighs 155-160 on fight night because of day prior weigh ins, Hattons 15lb + weight advantage would give him the huge weight advantage here. All the same Buchanons skill and movement keeps him in the fight but Hatton would be so much bigger, stronger and harder hitting. I see it going the same as Duran-Buchanon but Ken lasts the distance

Hatton is a real junior Welter who blows up between fights. He would have fought at the weight during Ken's days and is actually smaller than someone like Cervantes.A guy like Mosley was bigger than Hatton imo.

I don't see that big a difference.It's a decent sized jr welter against a tall, fairly big lightweight.

sweet_scientist
07-07-2008, 08:54 AM
Buchanon never fought above 135, Hatton weighs 155-160 on fight night because of day prior weigh ins, Hattons 15lb + weight advantage would give him the huge weight advantage here. All the same Buchanons skill and movement keeps him in the fight but Hatton would be so much bigger, stronger and harder hitting. I see it going the same as Duran-Buchanon but Ken lasts the distance
Buchanan fought a pretty competent welterweight named Donato Paduano whilst being 10 pounds lighter himself and pretty much schooled him. Buchanan was incredibly strong and resilient, and it will take more than mere size to defeat him. Personally, I don't think Hatton's skills are on his level and he will really struggle as the fight goes on.

Smith
07-07-2008, 08:59 AM
Mismatch, even considering the lower weight Kens at. Buchanan by beatdown.

Mantequilla
07-07-2008, 09:00 AM
Yup, Paduano was bout on par with someone like Collazo.maybe even slightly better.Buchanan may actually have done better moving up to Welter than Hatton.

Ricky doesn't have the chin needed to work his style there.

red cobra
07-09-2008, 07:54 PM
You must hold Tszyu in very low regard? Or Ken in very very very high regard?



Christ, I accidently scrolled through the thread history there, some disturbing frigging pictures in this bad boy.
I hold Kostya in very high regard! He lost to Ricky way past his prime. It may not have seemed so after he cleaned up on Sharmba Mitchell like he did for the second time, but he was past his prime when he fought Hatton. Down on Kostya Tszyu, are you kidding? He's the guy who helped bring us the chicken dance of Zab Judah. That was a golden moment.

red cobra
07-09-2008, 07:56 PM
McGrain, I actually hold Buchanan in very high regard. He was a brilliant boxer and an ATG.

McGrain
07-09-2008, 07:56 PM
I hold Kostya in very high regard! He lost to Ricky way past his prime. It may not have seemed so after he cleaned up on Sharmba Mitchell like he did for the second time, but he was past his prime when he fought Hatton. Down on Kostya Tszyu, are you kidding? He's the guy who helped bring us the chicken dance of Zab Judah. That was a golden moment.

:lol:

Yessir, it was.

I think that Tszyu was past his best, but I think he was still OK. It was just the wrong type of fight, Hatton set that ferocious pace. I think that you underestimate Hatton a bit here is my overall point.

McGrain
07-09-2008, 07:56 PM
McGrain, I actually hold Buchanan in very high regard. He was a brilliant boxer and an ATG.

There we agree. Great, great fighter, great left hand, one of my favourite lefts ever.

Holmes' Jab
07-09-2008, 08:33 PM
HJ,

Is the picture in your avatar Barney Ross? If so, what prompted ya to use it?


Tis indeed, mate. In my view he's one of the greatest boxers, from any weightclass, and era ever: up there with a very select clutch of true elites. Basically through an admiration of his career, fighting style and champions heart in the ring.

Cobra33
07-09-2008, 11:21 PM
Buchanan would beat the hell out of Hatton.Buchanan in addition to being tough was faster then Hatton and Buchanan's left jab would cut Hatton to pieces.

natonic
07-10-2008, 01:32 AM
I think Buchanan's technical skills would be too much and he'd stop Hatton on cuts late. Unless Hatton went for Buchanan's weak spot and caught him a good one in the nuts.

the cobra
07-10-2008, 05:53 AM
Buchanan W12 about 9-3 or 10-2, if 15 rounds, Buchanan stops Hatton in the 13th or 14th.

papke26
07-10-2008, 02:57 PM
I think that buchanan would of used his unique boxing brain to tie hatton in knots his speed was special and his phsicail hardyness would of saw him throuth the relentlessness of hattons swarming style when hatton had his moments in a tough contest i say buchanuan ud

red cobra
07-10-2008, 07:24 PM
:lol:

Yessir, it was.

I think that Tszyu was past his best, but I think he was still OK. It was just the wrong type of fight, Hatton set that ferocious pace. I think that you underestimate Hatton a bit here is my overall point.
Ok, I'll admit that. Hatton's fans and the British press went too far and got to me before that last fight of his with Laczano. I think it was when the guy said something like "enjoy Ricky while he's still around" and how his fans booed the National Anthem just before the Mayweather fight that disgusted me so much, and just the general fact that the British seem to overrate Hatton so much. Before any outraged Briton should respond to what I've just said with their moral outrage, consider that I'm a big fan of Calzaghe, and believe that Lennox Lewis and of course, Ken Buchanan were the greatest, or close to it anyway.

red cobra
07-10-2008, 07:28 PM
Yes, Hatton has had his moments. I was very impressed by his one punch body shot ko of Castillo, and I think he did what he had to do very well against Kostya, but don't think for a minute that he would have done that against the Tszyu of 5 or 6 years ago.