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somerset
07-07-2008, 03:23 PM
I know I ask this before most of his fights but any news?

12 days till he fights!

GazOC
07-07-2008, 03:27 PM
I think they are still exhuming the body...;O)

dan-b
07-07-2008, 03:30 PM
I think they are still exhuming the body...;O)

:lol:

Will still probably be for the WBO though.:D

kurt2006
07-07-2008, 03:33 PM
I think they are still exhuming the body...;O)

:lol:

Or Frank ****** can't convince Baz Carey to put some weight on.

FLINT ISLAND
07-07-2008, 03:39 PM
Remeber when they lined him up with Erza Sellers a 40 something who had not boxed in years??

The British Board rejected the fight - it was even worse than the Bobby Gunn opponnet.

Enzo on the front of the South Wales Evening Post today - he is on his bike - he done a bike ride called the Gower Bike Ride

Will he fight a quality opponnet like David Haye ever again?

Grant1
07-07-2008, 03:46 PM
It's an absolute shambles - I usually try to cut FW some slack.

This however is a absolutely pathetic.

Fat Joe
07-07-2008, 03:51 PM
I think they are still exhuming the body...;O)


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

PrideOfWales
07-07-2008, 03:54 PM
This always happens with a Maccarinelli fight... I just don't understand it.

FLINT ISLAND
07-07-2008, 04:02 PM
Will Macca Be Gunn Shy After Haye Twated Him Out?

Fat Joe
07-07-2008, 04:25 PM
Enzo on the front of the South Wales Evening Post today - he is on his bike - he done a bike ride called the Gower Bike Ridety

Here's Big Mac

Fat Joe
07-07-2008, 04:30 PM
FW isn't paying you enough Enzo if that's the best bike you can afford.

FLINT ISLAND
07-07-2008, 04:34 PM
Frank ****** must be paying him minium wage if thats the best bike he can afford

Or Pheraps Haye scrambled his senses so much he went into a bike shop

And the bloke said to him this is a good bike?

and Enzo said how much?

and the bloke said - a bargain only £10,000

and Enzo said - great I will have that one

rooq
07-07-2008, 04:43 PM
This always happens with a Maccarinelli fight... I just don't understand it.

thats because everyones ducking him. even the ones who call him out.

Claypole
07-07-2008, 04:47 PM
thats because everyones ducking him. even the ones who call him out.They're all scared of his mighty Chopper.

kurt2006
07-07-2008, 04:52 PM
FW isn't paying you enough Enzo if that's the best bike you can afford.

FW must be paying him too much cus that looks like an original Raleigh Chopper. They go for at least £100 on ebay.

FLINT ISLAND
07-07-2008, 05:20 PM
That Rugby ground Enzo is in is St Helens Rugby Ground

I go running past there quite often when I go running down Swansea Bay

Just opposite that ground there is a tribute to a young lad called Ben Bellamey that I always run past

It's a tragic story

He was only 17 yrs old and he was on I think his first night out to a club ever

and he was walking home across the forefront of Swansea Bay and he got talking to these three lads

and these three lads at some point turned on him and beat him to the ground and robbed him of his bank card

but even worse than that instead of just leaving him there they stripped him to make it look like he had gone swimming and dragged him into the sea to drown

all three scumbags were only in their teens themselves and all lived locally in the area - all sent down for years

I think Enzo knows the boys Father cos he lives by him around that way

dan-b
07-07-2008, 05:47 PM
That Rugby ground Enzo is in is St Helens Rugby Ground

I go running past there quite often when I go running down Swansea Bay

Just opposite that ground there is a tribute to a young lad called Ben Bellamey that I always run past

It's a tragic story

He was only 17 yrs old and he was on I think his first night out to a club ever

and he was walking home across the forefront of Swansea Bay and he got talking to these three lads

and these three lads at some point turned on him and beat him to the ground and robbed him of his bank card

but even worse than that instead of just leaving him there they stripped him to make it look like he had gone swimming and dragged him into the sea to drown

all three scumbags were only in their teens themselves and all lived locally in the area - all sent down for years

I think Enzo knows the boys Father cos he lives by him around that way

Thats a sickening story.

FLINT ISLAND
07-07-2008, 05:52 PM
Thats a sickening story.

Yes it is sickening

And I can assure you it is a true story as well

At the time Enzo Maccarenelli was one of the guys showing support to the family of the boys parents - it was all in the local paper around September 2005

dan-b
07-07-2008, 05:56 PM
Yes it is sickening

And I can assure you it is a true story as well

At the time Enzo Maccarenelli was one of the guys showing support to the family of the boys parents - it was all in the local paper around September 2005

I've just been reading about it on the BBC website. They got big sentences but, of course, thats no real consolation to the murdered kids family. Sad.

John18
07-07-2008, 05:56 PM
With some hindsight, how did anyone think Enzo would beat Haye? Opponents like Bobby Gunn, Mooted opponents like Sellars and then the mighty TBC are hardly championship stuff.

kurt2006
07-07-2008, 05:58 PM
Some real sickos in this world. Bastard scumbags.

kurt2006
07-07-2008, 06:00 PM
With some hindsight, how did anyone think Enzo would beat Haye? Opponents like Bobby Gunn, Mooted opponents like Sellars and then the mighty TBC are hardly championship stuff.

Yes why not. If Enzo could get past 5 rounds without taking too much punishment and DH had begun to gas then maybe so.

Enzo will still become a beltholder.

FLINT ISLAND
07-07-2008, 06:06 PM
I've just been reading about it on the BBC website. They got big sentences but, of course, thats no real consolation to the murdered kids family. Sad.

Yeah - he got a younger brother by only a couple of years who is now gonna live the rest of his life as a only child

and the mother said she can't go out anymore without seeing something that reminds her of her son and she breaks down in tears

and then the Father went to a hearing in court to see these Scumbags who had launched a appeal to have their sentences reduced and the father John Bellamey launched himself at one of the boys screaming "your dead" - he got alot of anger in him as you would if someone had murdered your son

All three of them scumbags have screwed their own lifes up as well - and they will never be able to show their faces in Swansea agains as there will be surely be people waiting for them to take revenge

John18
07-07-2008, 06:06 PM
I know what you are saying - I myself was worried in case he landed a big one.

But looking purely at his record, how did people think it was likely/possible?

He had 1 fight against decent opposition. 1 fight.

TFFP
07-07-2008, 06:10 PM
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Don't shoot the messenger.

robpalmer135
07-07-2008, 06:15 PM
plenty on here thought it would be Macca over haye. the whole thing about enzo winning late on is crap to. Haye was in better shape than macceranelli.

Haye beat Mormeck and Frogomenie beyond 6.

FLINT ISLAND
07-07-2008, 06:17 PM
I never thought Haye would take the fight

TFFP
07-07-2008, 06:17 PM
Yeah, plenty of muppets thought that

You have to be a horrible analyst to pick Maccarinelli to beat Haye. If I made that pick I'd depart and join the underwater tiddlywinks forum.

I wanted Macca to win too.

dan-b
07-07-2008, 06:19 PM
Yeah - he got a younger brother by only a couple of years who is now gonna live the rest of his life as a only child

and the mother said she can't go out anymore without seeing something that reminds her of her son and she breaks down in tears

and then the Father went to a hearing in court to see these Scumbags who had launched a appeal to have their sentences reduced and the father John Bellamey launched himself at one of the boys screaming "your dead" - he got alot of anger in him as you would if someone had murdered your son

All three of them scumbags have screwed their own lifes up as well - and they will never be able to show their faces in Swansea agains as there will be surely be people waiting for them to take revenge

Yes for some reason I find that story particularly upsetting. I read that bit about his mother on the website, cant imagine what living with that kind of pain must be like.

icemax
07-07-2008, 06:22 PM
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Don't shoot the messenger.

Gavin Rees is looking pretty ripped these days, and ready for Mac....I think that the fight is probably 50/50

robpalmer135
07-07-2008, 06:23 PM
theres a simple reason why Enzo has no opponent yet. money.

Enzo cannot draw shit outside of wales after the Haye loss, and niether can Audley Harrison against a journeyman. So they have sold fuck all tickets, and the show is not gonna make a profit, so the amount of cash FW has to spend on a decent opponent for Enzo is limited.

FLINT ISLAND
07-07-2008, 06:28 PM
theres a simple reason why Enzo has no opponent yet. money.

Enzo cannot draw shit outside of wales after the Haye loss, and niether can Audley Harrison against a journeyman. So they have sold fuck all tickets, and the show is not gonna make a profit, so the amount of cash FW has to spend on a decent opponent for Enzo is limited.

does this mean Enzo is gonna end up fighting some part time doorman on a low purse?

robpalmer135
07-07-2008, 06:31 PM
does this mean Enzo is gonna end up fighting some part time doorman on a low purse?

yes!

FLINT ISLAND
07-07-2008, 06:50 PM
yes!

o dear not another Bobby Gunn

pheraps its just gonna be a soft touch for enzo to get his confidence back

a human punch bag - who will just dive on the floor when he tastes a bit of leather

not good:-(

Claypole
07-07-2008, 06:54 PM
does this mean Enzo is gonna end up fighting some part time doorman on a low purse?what were you expecting?

FLINT ISLAND
07-07-2008, 06:58 PM
what were you expecting?

a big title fight - WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO

a move up to heavyweight to have a rematch with David Haye

dan-b
07-07-2008, 06:59 PM
a big title fight - WBC/WBA/IBF

a move up to heavyweight to have a rematch with David Haye

Fixed it for you.:good

BigEars
07-07-2008, 07:11 PM
Fixed it for you.:good
You do know your crusade against the WBO is pointless, it's not like everyones going to go, 'oh yeh, that guy from the internet is right. Let's spread the word and stop people counting it as a World title' .

As I previously said the best thing is to recognize as many titles till people finally see them for what they all are.......pointless .

WBC, GBU........same difference they're both much .


I heard Macklin's sold quite a few tickets, then again that's what you'd expect in Birmingham but it is a big arena(13,000) so it's not surprising that they are struggling to fill it with:
Maccarinelli v TBA
Harrison v Rogan
Macklin v Cheka
Anderson v Powers
Rees v TBA
Curtis Woodhouse v TBA
Don Broadhurst v TBA
Thomas Costello v TBA
Denton Vassell v TBA

Smazz20
07-07-2008, 07:22 PM
Not too big a deal really. He's only after a confidence builder really. Hopefully it won't be aganist an actual builder, but we all know FW. Leave Mac get the win under his belt and he can move forward from there. Regardless of what you think of him, the man had the balls to fight the best man in the division. A win here gives him some momentum and he can look to a fight against another top 15 or even 10 opponent in the not too distant future.

dan-b
07-08-2008, 03:37 AM
You do know your crusade against the WBO is pointless, it's not like everyones going to go, 'oh yeh, that guy from the internet is right. Let's spread the word and stop people counting it as a World title' .

As I previously said the best thing is to recognize as many titles till people finally see them for what they all are.......pointless .

WBC, GBU........same difference they're both much .


While your wonderful idea of a utopian, alphabet-less society is appealing, like it or not we do need some form of official rankings. If we recognised your system how would one get a shot at the title unless they were lucky enough to be granted one? Wheres the structure? The Ring magazine?

Also your snide dig is noted. Lots of other people don't recognise the WBO just as lots of people do recognise we need some form of official rankings. Lets face it, that magazine's own little crusade is not working, is probably causing more confusion & the fact it's run by an active fighter leaves it just as flawed.

alba
07-08-2008, 04:23 AM
when this fight was announced it was only ever scheduled to be a 10 rounder.i think it was only designed to get him back in the mix.i never had high hopes for a big name tbh.

Vantage_West
07-08-2008, 04:41 AM
this tba guy is incredibly busy

DamonD
07-08-2008, 06:06 AM
Yeah, but he keeps pulling out of fights and someone else has to step in. Lazy bastard.

Fat Joe
07-08-2008, 06:33 AM
I picked Mac on the basis of Haye struggling badly against Fragomeni. But as Haye himself has said he struggles more with short stocky fighters than tall beanpoles like Enzo.

Fat Joe
07-08-2008, 06:36 AM
He's only after a confidence builder really. Hopefully it won't be aganist an actual builder

:lol:

rumour24tiger
07-08-2008, 06:49 AM
You do know your crusade against the WBO is pointless, it's not like everyones going to go, 'oh yeh, that guy from the internet is right. Let's spread the word and stop people counting it as a World title' .

As I previously said the best thing is to recognize as many titles till people finally see them for what they all are.......pointless .

WBC, GBU........same difference they're both much .


I heard Macklin's sold quite a few tickets, then again that's what you'd expect in Birmingham but it is a big arena(13,000) so it's not surprising that they are struggling to fill it with:
Maccarinelli v TBA
Harrison v Rogan
Macklin v Cheka
Anderson v Powers
Rees v TBA
Curtis Woodhouse v TBA
Don Broadhurst v TBA
Thomas Costello v TBA
Denton Vassell v TBAFair enough. The vacant WBO title is being contested by two very promising fighters, Alexeev and Banks.

Hopefully Frank W brings an opponent in that will test Macca a little. I know, that's not how things work though, as regardless what title he'll be fighting for aferward, no one in the UK risks their ranking. I'm expecting Enzo to beat a very easy opponent.

rooq
07-08-2008, 04:24 PM
does this mean Enzo is gonna end up fighting some part time doorman on a low purse?

you mean jeff?

kurt2006
07-08-2008, 04:48 PM
you mean jeff?

Jeff will need tips from James Toney to get the weight on quickly but sensibly.

John18
07-08-2008, 06:20 PM
I totally understand the notion that money will prevent Enzo from getting a decent opponent.

Problem is, without a few half decent fighters (at least) how will he ever be built up enough to raise enough cash to fight someone good?

FLINT ISLAND
07-08-2008, 06:43 PM
the problem is Enzo blew his big oppurtunity

if he had KO'd Haye he could have geniunely claimed to be the best crusierweight in the world

now sadly some people are calling him rubbish

I still think he is a good fighter but there is no denying his big chance for real recoginiton turned into a nightmare

icemax
07-08-2008, 06:57 PM
Yeah, but he keeps pulling out of fights and someone else has to step in. Lazy bastard.
:rofl :lol:

Dubstep
07-08-2008, 07:19 PM
Must admit I think the treatment of Big Mac has been quite harsh. Haye banged him and his glove touched the canvas - he didn't get a count thus was pummelled to a stoppage. An 8-count there might have saved him and then at the very least he had a punchers chance against Haye.

I just don't understand why ****** is being so conservative with Mac. He is likeable, has a good draw in Wales and can bang - don't put him up against a belt-holder right after that defeat but putting him in with a bum? Nobody wins!

If Mormeck hasn't retired he would be a great shout surely? If he wins Enzo knows he's got his rep back and could engineer a fight against Cunningham. If he loses...well ****** can put him against bums until some even bigger bum flukes a title and Mac can get another shot!

Claypole
07-08-2008, 07:30 PM
Must admit I think the treatment of Big Mac has been quite harsh. Haye banged him and his glove touched the canvas - he didn't get a count thus was pummelled to a stoppage. An 8-count there might have saved him and then at the very least he had a punchers chance against Haye.
Enzo Macc seems to be a fairly decent fighter, but let's be honest about it, he was utterly crushed by Haye.
An eight count would have simply meant the fight lasting eight seconds longer than it actually did.

antcull
07-08-2008, 11:06 PM
I know what every real boxing fan will be praying for

THE REMATCH - CRUSIERWEIGHT SUPREMECY

Enzo Maccarinelli v Bobby Gunn 2

:gayfight

BigEars
07-08-2008, 11:54 PM
I know what every real boxing fan will be praying for

THE REMATCH - CRUSIERWEIGHT SUPREMECY

Enzo Maccarinelli v Bobby Gunn 2

:gayfight

Gunn will have to get through a togh test with James Morrow first([Only registered and activated users can see links])

To put things into perspective, Gunn recently drew with Cory Pehlps .
Phelps was stopped in 2 rounds by Irish Middleweight Joe Rea.........and Rea isn't even a half decent prospect, he's a club fighter himself .

Although with that said Gunn should probably be a middleweight himself and he was robbed of a win against Shelby Gross, a guy with an apparently okay looking record but is actually terrible .


But the WBO isn't the only one who sanctions Bobby Gunn's, here is the WBC's lighter and Frencher version [Only registered and activated users can see links] although to be fair he did once hold the French Flyweight title .

DamonD
07-09-2008, 08:33 AM
"Lighter and Frencher version", heh...

antcull
07-09-2008, 08:59 AM
Putting that french bloke in with Mijares is probably equal with putting Bobby Gunn in with prime Holyfield at crusierweight.

WTF were the WBC on when they made that one?? Shocking.

FLINT ISLAND
07-09-2008, 10:36 AM
Before the David Haye fight how many here considered Enzo Maccarenelli to be the best Crusierweight in the World?

And do you agree with Maccarenlli's claim that no other fighter could claim to be the best Crusierweight in the World unless they had beaten him?

ishy
07-09-2008, 10:55 AM
Before the David Haye fight how many here considered Enzo Maccarenelli to be the best Crusierweight in the World?

And do you agree with Maccarenlli's claim that no other fighter could claim to be the best Crusierweight in the World unless they had beaten him?

Enzo was NEVER considered the best cruiser in the world. Before the Haye fight, Haye himself was the best cruiser in the world. Enzo was ranked something like 3 or 4 by Ring Magazine before his fight with Haye.

Enzo had picked up a vacated WBO belt and had defended it against nobodies so to allege that nobody could claim to be the best Crusierweight in the World unless they had beaten him is bullshit.

alfonso
07-09-2008, 12:30 PM
could well be that they knew about the calzaghe fight in september - so fighting a bum in july to shake off a little rust then onto a big / title fight on the undercard of JC/JJ fight? maybe im just being overly optimistic

Claypole
07-09-2008, 02:06 PM
Then he saw how good David looked beating Mormeck I do believe Enzo soiled the Setanta sofa that night.

FLINT ISLAND
07-09-2008, 05:09 PM
I do believe Enzo soiled the Setanta sofa that night.

I dont think so - cos he was pushing for the fight to happen then that night in the setanta studio.

I think he believed he could have knocked out Mormeck too so he seen Haye as doing what he could do to.

I believe Enzo was calm and relaxed laughing at the weigh in of the Haye fight - it was Haye who looked a bit distant and nervous then.

What I think was Enzo bricked it on the night.

In the dressing room.

On the 100 mph run to the ring.

In the ring introductions and referee instructions.

And most crucially in the fight where he werent fighting with the same forward aggression that he usually does and was backing off from Haye.

I think he should have just gone for it - charge forward and try to take Haye out.

Because backing off from Haye he just swarm all over you - its the way he would like it.

If Enzo could have shown Haye he meant business but showing him no respect we could have been in for a real fight.

Haye was flattered by that fight - in a war i still think Haye will come apart.

Enzo showed him too much respect and that right hand that Haye caught him with at the begginning of his final onslaught if you notice Enzo was backing away in fear.

FLINT ISLAND
07-09-2008, 05:12 PM
Lets remeber Enzo Maccarenelli told Steve Bunce he still considers himself a better fighter than David Haye despite suffering a 2nd rd knockout to him

What do people think of that comment?

ishy
07-09-2008, 05:16 PM
Lets remeber Enzo Maccarenelli told Steve Bunce he still considers himself a better fighter than David Haye despite suffering a 2nd rd knockout to him

What do people think of that comment?

I think that those punches permenantly affected his brain....

rooq
07-09-2008, 05:18 PM
Lets remeber Enzo Maccarenelli told Steve Bunce he still considers himself a better fighter than David Haye despite suffering a 2nd rd knockout to him

What do people think of that comment?

it shows he's delusional.

as much as i dislike enzo calzaghe and and his refusal to give haye any credit whatsoever, i do want macca to come back and do well - as long as he fights the best of the post-haye division

FLINT ISLAND
07-09-2008, 05:38 PM
As Enzo Calzaghe said it

It was nothing to do with Haye really

Enzo Maccarenlli just made a silly mistake

Haye - he is nothing - Enzo just made a daft mistake - otherwise Haye would have had a career ending beating

ishy
07-09-2008, 05:41 PM
As Enzo Calzaghe said it

It was nothing to do with Haye really

Enzo Maccarenlli just made a silly mistake

Haye - he is nothing - Enzo just made a daft mistake - otherwise Haye would have had a career ending beating


You on a wind up mate? Haye is just the better fighter. He'd beat Enzo 10 times out of 10. Face up to it, Enzo just isn't as good as Haye.

Claypole
07-09-2008, 05:58 PM
I dont think so - cos he was pushing for the fight to happen then that night in the setanta studio.
He was indeed, right up until the point that Haye knocked out Mormeck. The look on Enzo's face after the fight was priceless.
It was as if he was struggling with the reality that he might have to actually get in the same ring as David Haye.
He went from :toney, to :yikes, to :nonono, and it made very good viewing. I don't think he ever had enough confidence to beat Haye.

John18
07-09-2008, 06:06 PM
There was no way he was best CW in the world as he had only had 1 real fight (against Braithwaite).

I considered him a possible threat to a top 10 fighter, but not that he was the man to beat.

Most of my concerns re the Haye fight was about Hayes weight problems, not how good Macca was.

John18
07-09-2008, 06:12 PM
Flint Island - what you need to realise is that the reason Enzo never charged Haye, or followed some sort of game plan that would crush Haye easily, is because he was not good enough.

It's alright preparing to fight, but when the guy you are in against is faster, bigger puncher, good shot selection, good foot movement, your plan goes out the window. And you get knocked out.

FLINT ISLAND
07-09-2008, 07:24 PM
who thinks the Haye fight might have damaged Enzo's confidence?

maybe crushed his confidence?

made him question wether he really is the best in the world like he thought he was?

Enzo said he wont be gun shy - but what happens when he steps back in the ring again - not against some bum who he would beat easy - but against somebody capable of throwing some leather back at him - will he be gun shy???????

FLINT ISLAND
07-09-2008, 07:48 PM
i wonder what TFFP thinks about all this?

alfonso
07-10-2008, 07:37 AM
still no opponent!

box-now
07-10-2008, 12:56 PM
Does anyone else think by not naming a opponent for Enzo, ****** and co are trying to piss off the whole Calzaghe camp?. There is noway Joe leaving ****** wont effect the rest of the Calzaghe fighters, they will either be set up for beating's or just blanked.

DamonD
07-10-2008, 02:43 PM
****** must be scouring his phone book of easy-touch opponents.
Get ready for the triumphant return of Willi Fischer!

John18
07-10-2008, 05:21 PM
I think the main issue with Enzo's mental state is that he is kidding himself and deep down he must know it.

He was not caught by a lucky punch.

IMO he froze when hit with the first decent shot and Haye took advantage shortly after that.

He needs to be realistic with himself - if he truly believes in himself, then get in there and do us all proud! Don't bother with the Bobby Gunns of this world.

FLINT ISLAND
07-10-2008, 05:51 PM
I think the main issue with Enzo's mental state is that he is kidding himself and deep down he must know it.

He was not caught by a lucky punch.

IMO he froze when hit with the first decent shot and Haye took advantage shortly after that.

He needs to be realistic with himself - if he truly believes in himself, then get in there and do us all proud! Don't bother with the Bobby Gunns of this world.

Thing is I know where Enzo is from and I know the places he trains like Bonymaen and Townhill in the Swansea area (when he is not training at the Calzaghe camp which is miles outside of Swansea) and therefore the kind of people that he is mixing with and used to being around. These people are called "mushes" townie people - and they can never admit defeat and never admit they wrong and never admit someone is better than them.

I dont think Enzo is anywhere near as ignorant or stupid as a regular townie mug he is a intelligent man - but some of this attitutde has bound to have rubbed off on him because he has probaly grown up around it all.

Bottom line: If David Haye fought him 10 times and knocked him out 10 times Enzo would never admit that he was better. Its not in the nature of these townies to do that.

FLINT ISLAND
07-10-2008, 05:59 PM
I seen Enzo the week of the David Haye fight on the Monday in his car - I was really excited the week of the fight to see a Swansea fighter invovled in a fight so big. I honestly thought he could knock Haye out. I bet Enzo is frustrtated he never really caught Haye with anything. It was a nightmare night for the Swansea Scrapper.

dan-b
07-10-2008, 06:11 PM
I seen Enzo the week of the David Haye fight on the Monday in his car - I was really excited the week of the fight to see a Swansea fighter invovled in a fight so big. I honestly thought he could knock Haye out. I bet Enzo is frustrtated he never really caught Haye with anything. It was a nightmare night for the Swansea Scrapper.

Yup, when you're in with some leagues above you it normally turns into a bad dream. Lockett found out the same thing recently.

Claypole
07-10-2008, 06:50 PM
Yup, when you're in with some leagues above you it normally turns into a bad dream. Lockett found out the same thing recently.The difference was that Enzo Macc really wanted to win against Haye. Lockett didn't seem too fussed about beating Pavlik, (or losing for that matter).

DamonD
07-11-2008, 05:23 AM
So...still no word yet?

kurt2006
07-11-2008, 06:02 AM
FW has lined up Butterbean on the proviso he makes the CW limit.

Beeston Brawler
07-11-2008, 07:55 AM
I don't think Lockett cares about anything other than himself, that is why I want him to be KTFO by anyone he faces.

The bloke is just a wanker :deal

Maccarinelli just blew it big time - though I wouldn't have expected him to beat Haye full stop, I would have been interested to have seen whether he caused him any problems, or whether he was just a fraud.

Guess we will never know really, as he was blasted out in two.

FLINT ISLAND
07-12-2008, 06:45 AM
It said in Boxing News - out yesterday - that Maccarenelli is now off the Audley Harrisson bill in Birmingham.

As Jonathan Banks has pulled out of the WBO title fight he was having.

So now FW is trying to make

Enzo Maccarenelli V Alex Aeeve - (or something like that can't remeber his name)

So Enzo can have a straight crack back at regaining his WBO title.

Enzo V Alex - who wins that one - how good is this Alex guy?

warrior85
07-12-2008, 07:25 AM
heard it was alexander alexeev for the vacant wbo title

DamonD
07-12-2008, 08:49 AM
Never heard of him. Time for a Boxrec check.

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27 years old, Russian, 15-0 with 14 knockouts. That looks good, although he hasn't fought anyone I've heard of except Tua victim Talmadge Griffis and Lee Swaby.
Good amateur career, lost a couple close ones to Solis.

Would seem to be below Enzo's level, certainly less experienced at pro level, or maybe it'll be a Hide-Vitali kind of surprise for Macca...

FLINT ISLAND
07-12-2008, 10:13 AM
Never heard of him. Time for a Boxrec check.

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27 years old, Russian, 15-0 with 14 knockouts. That looks good, although he hasn't fought anyone I've heard of except Tua victim Talmadge Griffis and Lee Swaby.
Good amateur career, lost a couple close ones to Solis.

Would seem to be below Enzo's level, certainly less experienced at pro level, or maybe it'll be a Hide-Vitali kind of surprise for Macca...

At least Macca will be fighting someone with ambition

the ony time that has happened was against David Haye and he got mauled inside 2 rounds

alba
07-12-2008, 11:32 AM
Thing is I know where Enzo is from and I know the places he trains like Bonymaen and Townhill in the Swansea area (when he is not training at the Calzaghe camp which is miles outside of Swansea) and therefore the kind of people that he is mixing with and used to being around. These people are called "mushes" townie people - and they can never admit defeat and never admit they wrong and never admit someone is better than them.

I dont think Enzo is anywhere near as ignorant or stupid as a regular townie mug he is a intelligent man - but some of this attitutde has bound to have rubbed off on him because he has probaly grown up around it all.

Bottom line: If David Haye fought him 10 times and knocked him out 10 times Enzo would never admit that he was better. Its not in the nature of these townies to do that.

i met enzo in vegas for the jc/bh fight.i spoke to him for about ten minuest s and he was properly gutted to lose to david haye.you could tell by the way he talked.

nice guy,really down to earth

FLINT ISLAND
07-12-2008, 11:59 AM
i met enzo in vegas for the jc/bh fight.i spoke to him for about ten minuest s and he was properly gutted to lose to david haye.you could tell by the way he talked.

nice guy,really down to earth

I can believe he is totally gutted

He probaly kicks himself he didn't seize his oppurtunity better instead of freezing a bit like I think he did

Fat Joe
07-13-2008, 08:13 AM
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07-13-2008, 01:42 PM
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No-one wants to fight Enzo so they called in Mr Muscle - he loves the job everyone else hates

robpalmer135
07-13-2008, 01:54 PM
Enzo will never have a bigger fight than David Haye. the biggest night of his life and he fucked it up.

if i had done that, id be seriously pissed off.