The UFC is one of the most biased and hurts the sport

[boxingcar]

Owned by some of the most biased cunts in mma. I know i know..you'll tell me that they've done a lot of good for the sport , sure. no one says the contrary. But enough is enough.

This is fucking ridiculous...I still haven't seen the jackson vs Griffin fight so i can't have a valid opinion on it. Only thing that i know is that a lot of fans are pissed.

anyway , that aside....

I'm here to talk about a real problem...It's nopt paranoia , it's fucking undeniable... If Dana wasn't such a biased cunt , he'd let Machida fight Griffin.. Machida should be the logical contender...he should be the next guy in line.

But that's not what they're doing...

If they're doing it...than great...at least they'll show that they're neutral...

But if they aren't...it'll just prove my point. They've done it before and they'll probably do it again.

According to some recent rumors an eventual jackson vs wanderlei rematch could be a possible option... Sure , the fans would love to see it but i think it's also a chance for them to get rid of jackson. Because they know that wandy has a style that puts jackson in trouble...

Of course , maybe , jackson will beat him this time...but nothing is certain.

According to some rumors...
Liddell could face Evans....Here again....You'd really have to be naive not to see what they're trying to do with this...

The plan ?
Liddell beats Evans...
Liddell gets the title shot...
Liddell KOs Griffin...and the belt is his again....

And no worries for a jackson rematch since wandy will get rid of him...
It's no secret...Liddell is not just the ufc's cash cow..he also happens to be dana's best friend (in real life)...

Now , of course there's a lot of "IFs" in this scenario...

if liddell beats Evans...IF wandy beats jackson again...IF Liddell manages to beat Griffin...

But still , imo , that's their plan...even if it fails , you can see that they're doing everything in their power to give dana's best friend a free ride...

EXACTLY LIKE THEY DID with Couture vs Sylvia...
But they weren't expecting couture to leave just to fight fedor...

You see , couture accepted the deal...they gave him everything he wanted and they even promessed him a fight against fedor...Fedor was supposed to fight couture just in time..they were hoping to reach an agreement with the contract but it never happened...and everything else was history...

Sylvia was supposed to beat Nogueira...but it didn't happened...than after that no surprise..Sylvia had to leave...(cause they didn't want to pay him the same amount of cash)....

Crocop left...(but that's his fault...they were actually hoping to transform crocop as their HW cash cow , you could tell that they had a lot of faith in him since he had one of ufc's most expensive contract)...

Today , they're stuck with Nogueira...
Mir , Kongo , Gonzaga , Werdum and a bunch of others...

it sure wasn't what they were originally planning...they wanted the best HW division but they don't have it... That's also precisely why they have an event on the same day as affliction's card...Because they KNOW , that there's real competition and big time billionaires are backing them up...

so once again , they hope that affliction will flop (since they want the total monopole of this sport)....and i bet they're crossing their fingers and hoping to see Sylvia beat Fedor...

(if sylvia beats fedor...they'll proudly claim to have the real champ and the best division , and of course dana will say that he knew that fedor was overrated etc..)

In the LHW division...MACHIDA should be the first in line...he should be THE contender , instead , they're giving this guy opponents after opponents ...because they don't want a guy like this as their champ...even though they bought him , they had no idea that
1 he'd be so dominant
2 so fucking boring...

But they still gave this guy a chance because they knew that a lot of mma fans were curious about the guy...Everybody knows that he was the one who defeated Penn , Franklin , Bonnar, Vernon (all ufc superstars though Vernon is a total "has been" now)...

But based on this curiosity factor...they included him in their stable of fighters....

But now , he's hard to get rid of...

What do they want ? something that will increase the excitement..and the ratings...best way to do it ? to have guys like wandy , liddell , Thiago , Jackson...

They still want to get rid of jackson because originally , he wasn't hired to make liddell look like shit...no instead , Dana (and liddell of course) were both convinced that "this time"' Jackson would get owned...

then we all know what happened...their plans failed...they wanted to erase liddell's only negative aspect of his fighting record and have this perfect rematch , but jackson pulled it off again...

Their idea of entertainment ? In dana's head...i'd say , entertainment is to see his best friend (chuck) owning the belt , KOing everyone ...

And the best way to do it...is to put jackson out of the picture...

Now , all of this is based on my opinion so this isn't reality...
maybe next time they'll announce (to my surprise)...Jackson vs Griffin II!
or maybe , Machida vs Griffin !!...

and this thread will be the proof of my extreme paranoia...
but in the mean time...I'm saying that dana is fucking biased like no other

[Stoo]

Owned by some of the most biased cunts in mma. I know i know..you'll tell me that they've done a lot of good for the sport , sure. no one says the contrary. But enough is enough.

This is fucking ridiculous...I still haven't seen the jackson vs Griffin fight so i can't have a valid opinion on it. Only thing that i know is that a lot of fans are pissed.

anyway , that aside....

I'm here to talk about a real problem...It's nopt paranoia , it's fucking undeniable... If Dana wasn't such a biased cunt , he'd let Machida fight Griffin.. Machida should be the logical contender...he should be the next guy in line.

But that's not what they're doing...

If they're doing it...than great...at least they'll show that they're neutral...

But if they aren't...it'll just prove my point. They've done it before and they'll probably do it again.

According to some recent rumors an eventual jackson vs wanderlei rematch could be a possible option... Sure , the fans would love to see it but i think it's also a chance for them to get rid of jackson. Because they know that wandy has a style that puts jackson in trouble...

Of course , maybe , jackson will beat him this time...but nothing is certain.

According to some rumors...
Liddell could face Evans....Here again....You'd really have to be naive not to see what they're trying to do with this...

The plan ?
Liddell beats Evans...
Liddell gets the title shot...
Liddell KOs Griffin...and the belt is his again....

And no worries for a jackson rematch since wandy will get rid of him...
It's no secret...Liddell is not just the ufc's cash cow..he also happens to be dana's best friend (in real life)...

Now , of course there's a lot of "IFs" in this scenario...

if liddell beats Evans...IF wandy beats jackson again...IF Liddell manages to beat Griffin...

But still , imo , that's their plan...even if it fails , you can see that they're doing everything in their power to give dana's best friend a free ride...

EXACTLY LIKE THEY DID with Couture vs Sylvia...
But they weren't expecting couture to leave just to fight fedor...

You see , couture accepted the deal...they gave him everything he wanted and they even promessed him a fight against fedor...Fedor was supposed to fight couture just in time..they were hoping to reach an agreement with the contract but it never happened...and everything else was history...

Sylvia was supposed to beat Nogueira...but it didn't happened...than after that no surprise..Sylvia had to leave...(cause they didn't want to pay him the same amount of cash)....

Crocop left...(but that's his fault...they were actually hoping to transform crocop as their HW cash cow , you could tell that they had a lot of faith in him since he had one of ufc's most expensive contract)...

Today , they're stuck with Nogueira...
Mir , Kongo , Gonzaga , Werdum and a bunch of others...

it sure wasn't what they were originally planning...they wanted the best HW division but they don't have it... That's also precisely why they have an event on the same day as affliction's card...Because they KNOW , that there's real competition and big time billionaires are backing them up...

so once again , they hope that affliction will flop (since they want the total monopole of this sport)....and i bet they're crossing their fingers and hoping to see Sylvia beat Fedor...

(if sylvia beats fedor...they'll proudly claim to have the real champ and the best division , and of course dana will say that he knew that fedor was overrated etc..)

In the LHW division...MACHIDA should be the first in line...he should be THE contender , instead , they're giving this guy opponents after opponents ...because they don't want a guy like this as their champ...even though they bought him , they had no idea that
1 he'd be so dominant
2 so fucking boring...

But they still gave this guy a chance because they knew that a lot of mma fans were curious about the guy...Everybody knows that he was the one who defeated Penn , Franklin , Bonnar, Vernon (all ufc superstars though Vernon is a total "has been" now)...

But based on this curiosity factor...they included him in their stable of fighters....

But now , he's hard to get rid of...

What do they want ? something that will increase the excitement..and the ratings...best way to do it ? to have guys like wandy , liddell , Thiago , Jackson...

They still want to get rid of jackson because originally , he wasn't hired to make liddell look like shit...no instead , Dana (and liddell of course) were both convinced that "this time"' Jackson would get owned...

then we all know what happened...their plans failed...they wanted to erase liddell's only negative aspect of his fighting record and have this perfect rematch , but jackson pulled it off again...

Their idea of entertainment ? In dana's head...i'd say , entertainment is to see his best friend (chuck) owning the belt , KOing everyone ...

And the best way to do it...is to put jackson out of the picture...

Now , all of this is based on my opinion so this isn't reality...
maybe next time they'll announce (to my surprise)...Jackson vs Griffin II!
or maybe , Machida vs Griffin !!...

and this thread will be the proof of my extreme paranoia...
but in the mean time...I'm saying that dana is fucking biased like no other

Who not go the whole hog and say Dana shot JFK while your at it?

[Beebs]

still haven't seen the jackson vs Griffin fight so i can't have a valid opinion on it.

If they're doing it...than great...at least they'll show that they're neutral...

they'll probably do it again.

According to some recent rumors
Of course , maybe , jackson will beat him this time...but nothing is certain.

According to some rumors...

The plan ?

Now , of course there's a lot of "IFs" in this scenario...

if liddell beats Evans...IF wandy beats jackson again...IF Liddell manages to beat Griffin...

But still , imo , that's their plan...even if it fails

Comeon now

[dado]

Machida is not a fucking boring fighter...he is brilliant

[Tko4]

Took a little bit of rambling to get there, but your overall point is well taken. There's no doubt Dana and Co. are behind the scenes pulling every string they can on this puppet to get what they want. Does it always happen? No, it's a a sport and upsets happen constantly. But they certainly try to match up fighters and give out title shots that will benefit them in the longrun. From a business standpoint it makes sense. From a sport standpoint, it's absolute horseshit.

[AJAX]

WOW! you are an angry man, I didn't have time to read all that but it sounds like your almost "whining" a little bit.:| :| :lol:

[jimmie]

Boxingcar I like you man but you really should chill out all your threads that involve your opinion its usually you complaning about Cro Cop or the UFC. You have the right to speak your mind but damn dude dont be so miserable. Machidas deserving of a title shot yes but why exactly isnt Chuck deserving after beating Wanderlei then assuming he beats Rashad Evans to go along with his recent dominant title reign ? Just be a fan man and accept things for what they are and look at the postives. We are possibly getting Liddell-Forrest Griffin along with Rampage-Wandy 3 with the winners facing off. Lyoto and Thiago Silva will face off and the winners probablly next in line just relax.

[boxingcar]

Who not go the whole hog and say Dana shot JFK while your at it? I bet he's got some sort of responsability for this too...



(kidding) :D

But no , seriously if they're not giving machida a chance , then it's bullshit. They can't fucking wait to try to impose liddell again.

[boxingcar]

WOW! you are an angry man, I didn't have time to read all that but it sounds like your almost "whining" a little bit.:| :| :lol:

Nah , it's just a long message nothing more... :lol:

[boxingcar]

Machida is not a fucking boring fighter...he is brilliant
but boring....Ricardo Arona tends to be fucking boring too but that takes nothing away from his talent of course...

[boxingcar]

Took a little bit of rambling to get there, but your overall point is well taken. There's no doubt Dana and Co. are behind the scenes pulling every string they can on this puppet to get what they want. Does it always happen? No, it's a a sport and upsets happen constantly. But they certainly try to match up fighters and give out title shots that will benefit them in the longrun. From a business standpoint it makes sense. From a sport standpoint, it's absolute horseshit.

:good In a nutshell , that's what i was trying to say..you totally understood my point.

[Nuke]

Maybe you should watch the Jackson/Griffin fight first. I think you will realize that griffin did indeed beat Jackson. My question is if they wanted Chuck to have the title back why did they not give him a rematch with Jackson?

[boxingcar]

Boxingcar I like you man but you really should chill out all your threads that involve your opinion its usually you complaning about Cro Cop or the UFC. You have the right to speak your mind but damn dude dont be so miserable. Machidas deserving of a title shot yes but why exactly isnt Chuck deserving after beating Wanderlei then assuming he beats Rashad Evans to go along with his recent dominant title reign ? Just be a fan man and accept things for what they are and look at the postives. We are possibly getting Liddell-Forrest Griffin along with Rampage-Wandy 3 with the winners facing off. Lyoto and Thiago Silva will face off and the winners probablly next in line just relax.

Read what tko4 wrote in his response...That's where i'm standing.
what they're doing with machida is ridiculous...They keep feeding him opponents after opponents...
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Remember what they did with couture ? He comes out of retirement and is magically given the opportunity to fight Sylvia...

They done this shit with Liddell , couture , Hughes...on many occasions you can see how they're pulling the strings and like tko4 said it's good business for them but i don't like it. I'm not a fan of the org , i'm a fan of the sport.

Why are they picking vernon to fight Liddell ? why ?
Chuck already beat him , not only that , Vernon last fought in the ufc in 2004...and suddenly , out of the blue the guy is back for a bullshit rematch ?

You know why they're doing it ? Because they're convinced that Liddell will KO him fast... and after that they'll give Liddell a title shot against griffin.
Vernon hasn't been fighting for several months...

His last fight was in 2007 !...(and his two last fights were both losses)...they're feeding him to their lion.

they're not even risking to give liddell machida...

[boxingcar]

Maybe you should watch the Jackson/Griffin fight first. I think you will realize that griffin did indeed beat Jackson. My question is if they wanted Chuck to have the title back why did they not give him a rematch with Jackson?
Read what i wrote though...Like i said , griffin vs jackson is one thing...i'm not even insinuating that the decision was bullshit..I said it myself , i haven't seen the fight...

I'm talking about something else...I'm talking about their match ups...like tko4 said , it's horseshit...

Machida is the one and only legitimate contender...if they're not giving him a title shot , an opportunity to fight griffin...than it's horseshit..pure favoritism.

They're not even forcing liddell to fight machida. That's how bad they want liddell to get the belt... Instead , they're giving him Vermon who's been innactive for months and who got beat in his last 2 fights...and he also happens to be a guy who already lost against liddell...

They know that Liddell has huge chances to demolish Vernon again.

[boxingcar]

ah shit...i think i owned myself...Is liddell fighting vernon or Rashad ?
Rashad is a better match up , obviously more risky (though not that much when compared to a Machida vs Liddell match up)...

Thiago is a young , great talent on the rise...Thiago vs machida ? coincidence?
i think not. Hell even Rashad deserves a title shot more so than liddell...
Machida deserves this title shot...but instead , he's fighting a top talent who has the potential to beat him.

[jimmie]

Hes fight Rashad bro where the hell you got hes fighting Vernon White agian I have no clue.

[Tko4]

Is Vernon White even still fighting?

[sugarngold]

Best LOL thread of the night.

Keep typing this stuff up, BC. It makes for entertaining reading.

[Beebs]

Yea they want Chuck to have the belt soo bad.

Chucks opponenets in the UFC before he got a title shot
Monson, Randleman, Bustamante, Suloev, Belfort, Babalu, loss to Randy, Tito, Vernon White, then finally a title shot against Randy.

Lyoto
Sam Hoger, David Heath, Nakamura, Soko, Tito.


Poor baby.

[boxingcar]

Yea they want Chuck to have the belt soo bad.

Chucks opponenets in the UFC before he got a title shot
Monson, Randleman, Bustamante, Suloev, Belfort, Babalu, loss to Randy, Tito, Vernon White, then finally a title shot against Randy.

Lyoto
Sam Hoger, David Heath, Nakamura, Soko, Tito.


Poor baby.

They do. If Chuck beats Evans , he'll have a direct shot at Griffin.
What they should do is give Machida a title shot or a rematch (jackson vs griffin II).

Or , they should have Liddell vs machida.


Sure i made a mistake , it wasn't Vernon. But it's irrelevant because they are biased. For example , why did they gave couture a free title fight pass vs Sylvia ?...

Machida is undefeated in the ufc. Liddell lost twice , once against jackson & another vs Jardine...then he won against wanderlei...

We're in 2008 , not 2004 or (wtf you're even mentioning Monson ? man that was 8 years ago )

[boxingcar]

Hes fight Rashad bro where the hell you got hes fighting Vernon White agian I have no clue.
i admitted my mistake in my previous message. My point still stands. If Liddell gets a title shot after his fight vs Evans then it's a clear sign of favoritism.

[Wilhelm]

Your real beef should be with Jardine. If he didn't lose every other fight while beating top guys in every other fight things would be a lot less weird. If he'd have just lost to Griffin and Liddell, Liddell would deserve a shot right now. If he had just beaten Silva and Alexander, he'd deserve one.

That said, you're acting like Machida has already beat a bunch of A level guys. Oritz hasn't been A level in a while and Sokudju (sp?) hasn't shown he's one either. Granted Machida has looked good, but he needs to beat a guy like Evans or one of the Silvas to really earn it.

[sugarngold]

What happens if Griffin continues his upset train and defeats Liddell?

[jimmie]

i admitted my mistake in my previous message. My point still stands. If Liddell gets a title shot after his fight vs Evans then it's a clear sign of favoritism.

You could say it for sure but you gotta look at it from the UFCs point of view bro that is a huge fight and might just break the PPV record for MMA. Now sure im not all about money but you do gotta put yourselfs in the UFCs postion shit man I wanted wanna give Machida a title shot because theres a great chance he wins and right now I think they wanna do there best to prevent that. Hes had 2 nice wins in a row vs Soko and Tito but its not like Chuck isnt deserving as well man look at his Championship run of 05-06 and Wanderlei and Evans are exactly chumps. Aside from Chuck and Machida the only guy with a real case for a title shot right now is Rampage and the UFC doesnt normally give rematches although I believe that fight should be happening before anything its a close fight. Anyway im just looking at the postive man we might be getting to see something very nice within the next year after Liddell/Evans vs Griffin,Rampage vs Wand 3,T.Silva and Machida.

[jimmie]

What happens if Griffin continues his upset train and defeats Liddell?

He will probablly face Rampage-Wandy winner if that fight comes off. Whats crazy is he already beat Rampage so you gotta give him a shot of course and styles wise I think he could give Wandy some serious problems. I gotta be real if you tell me in April 05 that Forrest would even give Tito Ortiz a tough fight let alone beat up Shogun and then Rampage id say shut the fuck up and never watch MMA agian idiot. Back then he seemed just like a brawler nothing more nothing less. Now hes developed decent outside boxing skills,solid Muay Thai skills,fantastic cardio,good takedown defense and solid submissions im very impressed with his activty when another opponet is in his guard.

[boxingcar]

Your real beef should be with Jardine. If he didn't lose every other fight while beating top guys in every other fight things would be a lot less weird. If he'd have just lost to Griffin and Liddell, Liddell would deserve a shot right now. If he had just beaten Silva and Alexander, he'd deserve one.

That said, you're acting like Machida has already beat a bunch of A level guys. Oritz hasn't been A level in a while and Sokudju (sp?) hasn't shown he's one either. Granted Machida has looked good, but he needs to beat a guy like Evans or one of the Silvas to really earn it.
Ok , let's talk about ortiz then...Machida totally nullified him...

Now you're saying that machida needs to beat a guy like evans ?
You're talking about "the" evans ? the one who went to a draw vs Ortiz ?

If we're gonna settle for the ortiz arguement...then Evans didn't do any better Than machida.

[boxingcar]

What happens if Griffin continues his upset train and defeats Liddell? Then good for him but that's not the point. (at least not the one i was talking about)...I don't care who Griffin beats... The point is Chuck shouldn't get the opportunity to fight for the title if he beats Evans.

[boxingcar]

You could say it for sure but you gotta look at it from the UFCs point of view bro that is a huge fight and might just break the PPV record for MMA. Now sure im not all about money but you do gotta put yourselfs in the UFCs postion shit man I wanted wanna give Machida a title shot because theres a great chance he wins and right now I think they wanna do there best to prevent that. Hes had 2 nice wins in a row vs Soko and Tito but its not like Chuck isnt deserving as well man look at his Championship run of 05-06 and Wanderlei and Evans are exactly chumps. Aside from Chuck and Machida the only guy with a real case for a title shot right now is Rampage and the UFC doesnt normally give rematches although I believe that fight should be happening before anything its a close fight. Anyway im just looking at the postive man we might be getting to see something very nice within the next year after Liddell/Evans vs Griffin,Rampage vs Wand 3,T.Silva and Machida.

From that perspective...yeah , i understand it perfectly...But that's still a big problem. They're not neutral.
maybe you're gonna tell me that they do the same shit in all sports. Ok but it's even more blatant in the ufc.

[jimmie]

From that perspective...yeah , i understand it perfectly...But that's still a big problem. They're not neutral.
maybe you're gonna tell me that they do the same shit in all sports. Ok but it's even more blatant in the ufc.

I dont know man I dont see the problem with it. I know you have brought up Sylvia-Couture a couple times the last few days and although im a Randy nuthugger pretty much ill agree how do you get a title shot a weight class above the one you just got KTFO out 2 times in less then a year and coming off retirement at that ? Its his name though and yes the UFC favortisim. But this is different man Liddell would be coming off wins over Silva and Evans so its justified.

[AJAX]

Wins over Evans and Wandy are just as impressive as wins over Soko and Ortiz( who hasn't done shit in years)....Not to mention chuck finished Tito twice Machida had to UD him. I think if Chuck get's by Evans then chuck vs Griffin would be perfect and Machida vs T.Silva would get the next shot.Being a former champ does give you some benifits, same goes for boxing.

[Beebs]

Not to mention Rashad and Thiago Silva both have claims to a title shot as well.