"Hopkins wants Calzaghe next

[curtis]

Hopkins wants Calzaghe next!
By Matt Richardson
"I congratulate Winky Wright for being tough," said Bernard Hopkins after winning a twelve round unanimous decision on Saturday night in Las Vegas. "I hope the commission understands that I had to promote a good fight. I think it was a good action fight and I hope I don't have to pay $300,000 to prove that (referring to the amount withheld from his purse for pushing Wright at the weigh-in)....it was nothing but promotion, baby, nobody got hurt." As for future fights, Hopkins mentioned Joe Cazlaghe. "It has to be about something. It has to have a reason. I have to have a purpose before I get back in the ring." Promoter Oscar De La Hoya stated, "Bernard Hopkins has a lot of attractive opportunities as a light heavyweight. He wants to fight Calzaghe at Yankee Stadium in New York. If Bernard Hopkins wants Calzaghe, then it's our duty to go make that fight."

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Let's hope Calzaghe doesn't get injured

:D

[ozziebattler]

Hopkins wants Calzaghe next!


Let's hope Calzaghe doesn't get injured

:D

INJURED?????

UUUUUMMMMMMMMM

what if kessler wins???

I cant beleive how beating overhyped lacy has thrown joe to stardom..

Im neither a fan of joe or mikkel but it would be a classic for kessler to pull a SO CALLED upset and screw all these so called superbouts with joe and bernard etc..

ITS GOING TO HAPPEN....HAHAHAHAHA

[MancMexican]

Hopkins won't fight Calzaghe. He'll make out like he does and then double his fee at the last moment like last time. If a prime B-Hop didn't want JC then I can't believe this semi-retired one does.

[Artani]

Great fight , lets happen after Calzghe- Kessler fight.

[marauder1999]

bring it!!

[Cabannaro]

Hopkins won't fight Calzaghe. He'll make out like he does and then double his fee at the last moment like last time. If a prime B-Hop didn't want JC then I can't believe this semi-retired one does.
Certainly.

Hopkins doesn't like the biggest challanges.

Why fight Calzaghe if he can fight more popular and comletely shot RJJ?

[ChuckYoungblood]

Hopkins won't fight Calzaghe. He'll make out like he does and then double his fee at the last moment like last time. If a prime B-Hop didn't want JC then I can't believe this semi-retired one does.

I agree. I just don't see it happening

[psychopath]

Certainly.

Hopkins doesn't like the biggest challanges.

Why fight Calzaghe if he can fight more popular and comletely shot RJJ?

Well there's a big difference . . . RJJ is already history . . . Joe Calzaghe is still on top of his game with a lot of followers.:yep

[Cabannaro]

Well there's a big difference . . . RJJ is already history . . . Joe Calzaghe is still on top of his game with a lot of followers.:yep
That's why Hop would take RJJ.

When RJJ was on the P4P list, B-Hop rejected the rematch and waited for DLH who climbed way too high in weight class.

It's a logical step for Hop to pursue RJJ now.

[My dinner with Conteh]

I see BoreHOP wants home advantage. Don't blame him, we all saw what happened last time he fought away...:D

[David UK]

Hopkins won't fight Calzaghe. He'll make out like he does and then double his fee at the last moment like last time. If a prime B-Hop didn't want JC then I can't believe this semi-retired one does.

Hopkins is a wanker who has no intention of going anywhere near Calzaghe.

[1lehudson]

Hopkins is a wanker who has no intention of going anywhere near Calzaghe.yeah and we can tell this by the fact that hopkins never takes big fights, while Calzaghe takes them ALLLL. So many big fights in his career, i dont see why he isnt p4p of all times:roll:

[bigG]

sad thing is...when joe beats kessler, he will probably have proved himself beyond doubt as THE dominant guy of his generation at the weight.......if he fights bhop and rjj...he WILL beat them.........but it will do nothing but tarnish his potential atg status cos everyone will scream that they are over the hill.......

[Cabannaro]

yeah and we can tell this by the fact that hopkins never takes big fights, while Calzaghe takes them ALLLL. So many big fights in his career, i dont see why he isnt p4p of all times:roll:
Chris Eubank, Jeff Lacy on his resume by the age of 35

Glen Johnson, John David Jackson and Antwun Echols on Hop's resume by the age of 35 :blurp

Oh year, add loss to RJJ to that HUGE list :lol:

[GazOC]

sad thing is...when joe beats kessler, he will probably have proved himself beyond doubt as THE dominant guy of his generation at the weight.......if he fights bhop and rjj...he WILL beat them.........but it will do nothing but tarnish his potential atg status cos everyone will scream that they are over the hill.......

I agree on RJJ but Hopkins is still a viable opponent IMO.

[4themind]

If comparing their professional careers , depending on the judgments that are infered from that, one may also want to consider factors in supplement to age, like their relative number of years competing as professional boxers in conjunction with the number of fights each had when comparing the age (and there are arguably other factors also; some may compare their competition for a given number of fights in lieu of age). I’d say, though that it’s hard to doubt calzaghe’s courage at this point, at least as evidenced by his accepting the Kessler fight (and assuming that the fight goes through as planned). I'd guess we'll have more answers for comparison after both of their careers are over.

[Cabannaro]

Calzaghe has ALOT to do before he retires if he wants to have the career Hopkins has built.
Yep.

Beat two fat welters and pull overhyped cinema actor into the ring.

Oh year, overclinch another smaller guy.

[Marnoff]

Hopkins won't fight Calzaghe. He'll make out like he does and then double his fee at the last moment like last time. If a prime B-Hop didn't want JC then I can't believe this semi-retired one does.

Prime Hopkins was a weight class under Calzaghe, setting a record for Middleweight defenses. That's hardly ducking anything weight classes above him.

[Scar]

Calzaghe clearly said in his biography that he will travel to the States if a fight with Bernard is possible.

[Farmboxer]

That would be an interesting fight. Hopkins is one of my favorite fighters, but so is Calzaghe. Calzaghe is faster that Hopkins, would be a problem, however, Hopkins is very sly in the ring. I would like to see that fight, but I think we will probably see Calzaghe Taylor first.

[Cabannaro]

Calzaghe has ALOT to do before he retires if he wants to have the career Hopkins has built.
So what?

Mosely never was close to the Oscar's quality of opposition and unlikely to come in the future.

But he beat him twice.

BoreHop is clever enough to understand that, so no fight with Calzaghe is not going to happen.

[sues2nd]

yeah and we can tell this by the fact that hopkins never takes big fights, while Calzaghe takes them ALLLL. So many big fights in his career, i dont see why he isnt p4p of all times:roll:

Wow I actually agree with hudson.....

Listen to all of the Calzaghe fans come out in unison saying things like Hop doesnt take big challenges.

I will end that nonsense really quickly................

Please, anyone thinking the same way as what hudson quoted, answer me one thing....

Name one fighter that Calzaghe has fought that is 1/100th the fighter Hopkins is???? Just one.....?

[Cabannaro]

Name one fighter that Calzaghe has fought that is 1/100th the fighter Hopkins is???? Just one.....?
What a ...!

Hop was avoided by most of stars until DK decided he is old enough to loose to Tito. His resume was NO better at the age of 35.

Calzaghe is just in the same situation.

Calzaghe has never fought anyone like Hop - and won't if Hop continues bitching. His win over Tito thrusted him to the top of the game, but he rejected $6m for rematch with RJJ. He preferred to beat average opposition waiting for another small guy.

[ozziebattler]

Look joe has been the top dog of the super middles for a long time but please dont put him anywhere near bernard hopkins..Thats really going too far..

joe hardly got his name mentioned until he belted the now known overhyped jeff WHERE DID THE LEFT HOOK GO lacy...

All i know is if i were in my mid 30's and just beat lacy in what was a dominating display i would of NEVER considered fighting anyone other than the top dogs..Bika,manfredy not even kessler are big enough fights for a man in his mid 30's who continuely claims he wants to be the best pound for pound..

I dont want to hear that b-hop is ducking as he aint the only top line boxer out there..

Joe has had a good career but he hasnt really put in the effort to step it up a notch.

I aint a hater of joe as i admit hes dominated the supermiddle division for along time,all im saying is he has gone 10plus years without going to states for a HUGE fight and i doubt he really wants to..

Hatton used to be tailed with the same brush as a fighter who liked his comfort zone.but has really gone out of his way as a true champ to change that by hitting the states to take on some career defining fights.I know he hasnt had huge fights as of yet but he is atleast looking like he will do so..

COME ON JOE STEP UP...im a little sick of hearing pro calzaghe fasns making excuses that every1 is ducking you...Your 35yrs old with a washed up eubank and overhyped lacy as your top wins..

COME ON...

[sues2nd]

What a ...!

Hop was avoided by most of stars until DK decided he is old enough to loose to Tito. His resume was NO better at the age of 35.

Calzaghe is just in the same situation.

Calzaghe has never fought anyone like Hop - and won't if Hop continues bitching. His win over Tito thrusted him to the top of the game, but he rejected $6m for rematch with RJJ. He preferred to beat average opposition waiting for another small guy.

Well, didnt we just show we have no idea what we are talking about now, didnt we....

First, King had NOTHING to do with Hop fighting Trinidad. That fight was the final of a MW unification tourney. Try again.

Second... By Hops 14th year as a pro (what Calzaghe is at now)....he had already fought RJJ, PRIME Glen Johnson, Prime Tito Trinidad, Echols, Vanderpool, Holmes, etc. You cant even compare the two resumes at that point, its ridiculously in favor of Hops.

Third, Roy offered Hops 60/40 on tv...yet never offered more than 70/30 when they sat down to make the fight. Plus wouldnt agree to a catchweight (notice Hop fought Winky at a catch...what is fair is fair). Now if Hop agreed to 70/30, he probably couldve gotten the catchweight. Its hilarious to me how Jones fans blame Hop for not making the rematch happen and Hops fans do the same back....Im a fan of both fighters, and I am here to tell ya, they were BOTH too fucking stubborn to make that shit a reality.

And finally, this Hop beat smaller men garbage is just that...garbage! Do we discount Hagler's wins vs Hearns or Duran just because they were smaller men? HELL NO!!! They were great fighters...as were Oscar, Tito and Winky...regardless of what weight they started their careers at.

Try arguing your ridiculous opinions with someone who doesnt have the knowledge to prove your full of shit next time.

And I repeat my question....

Name ONE fighter Calzaghe has fought that is 1/100 the fighter Hopkins is?

Ya cant, cause there is none.

Tito, Oscar, Johnson, Echols, Tarver, Winky, Holmes, Vanderpool, Taylor (most feel he won at least one of those fights...and by most I dont mean Hop fans...I mean boxing fans), Eastman, Joppy, etc. Bernard has one of the better resumes out there when you actually look at it objectively and fairly....tho by the ridiculous tone of your posts and the fact that you attempted to MAKE SHIT UP (that I had to smash to bits) to make your arguement...I doubt you will attempt to do that.

Again, try someone that knows LESS about boxing than you do next time.....ya might have better luck.

:hi:

[Cabannaro]

ozziebattler, you look with your post as a hypocrite.

First, you say Lacy and Kessler are not enough for top P4P fighter.

Next, you say b-hop aint the only top line boxer out there..

Who's than? Who is 'other than b-hop' who is better?

Don't mention semi-retired Tarver please.This guy can't do anything of worth without second chance :lol:

Calzaghe should make a step, you say... What step could be more HUGE than fight with B-Hop?

[Cabannaro]

sues2nd

Well, didnt we just show we have no idea what we are talking about now, didnt we....

First, King had NOTHING to do with Hop fighting Trinidad. That fight was the final of a MW unification tourney. Try again
The promoter of both Tito and Hop had NOTHING to do with Hop fighting Trinidad :lol:

RJJ, PRIME Glen Johnson, Prime Tito Trinidad, Echols, Vanderpool, Holmes, etc
RJJ - lost
Glen Johnson, Echols, Vanderpool, Holmes - these guys became quality opposition because Hopkins defeated them? :lol:

If you try, you'll see many of them lost to the guys Calzaghe won :blurp

yet never offered more than 70/30 when they sat down to make the fight
It was still $6m and Hop turned it down for Hakkar and Joppy :nut With vague perspective to fight smaller and less skilled guy for bigger money... Sometime, someday.

UPDATE: and he divided these bigger money 25/75 and had no problem with it.

Name ONE fighter Calzaghe has fought that is 1/100 the fighter Hopkins is?
Chris Eubank

Whether he qualifies for 1/100 :nut or not, this cannot deny the fact B-Hop avoids Calzaghe. He was calling out dead RJJ before taking Winky although Joe is better than both.

[Cabannaro]

Your 35yrs old with a washed up eubank and overhyped lacy as your top wins..
It's just a disgrace how Lacy 'ducked by Joe to injuring arms for excuse' became 'overhyped'...

Come on, Joe... Forget about BitchHop, just do your work and leave his nuthaggers with 'who has he fought' excuses...

[sues2nd]

sues2nd

Well, didnt we just show we have no idea what we are talking about now, didnt we....


The promoter of both Tito and Hop had NOTHING to do with Hop fighting Trinidad :lol:


RJJ - lost
Glen Johnson, Echols, Vanderpool, Holmes - these guys became quality opposition because Hopkins defeated them? :lol:

If you try, you'll see many of them lost to the guys Calzaghe won :blurp


It was still $6m and Hop turned it down for Hakkar and Joppy :nut With vague perspective to fight smaller and less skilled guy for bigger money... Sometime, someday.

UPDATE: and he divided these bigger money 25/75 and had no problem with it.


Chris Eubank

Whether he qualifies for 1/100 :nut or not, this cannot deny the fact B-Hop avoids Calzaghe. He was calling out dead RJJ before taking Winky although Joe is better than both.

Stop while your behind....I understand your new here. But you really need to do more homework.

First, Hops promoter was not King. It was Dibella at the time, King promoted the tourney. AND Hop was a part of the MW unification tourney because he held a share of the MW titles....plain and simple. Again, it had NOTHING to do with KING!!!

Second, you mentioned that Calzaghe by the age of 35 fought better comp than Hopkins....look I will quote it for ya.

His resume was NO better at the age of 35.

Yet you ignore the fact that Hopkins started his career later in life than Joe did. Instead, to be fair you must look that in the 14 years Joe has fought compared to the 14 years that Bernard has fought.

And in those 14 years....Hopkins resume DWARFS Calzaghe's.

Yes he lost to Jones, but Jones is better than ANYONE on the list of fighters that Calzaghe had the balls to step in the ring with.

And a PRIME GLEN JOHNSON wasnt a great fighter??? You serious?

:patsch

And I love how you didnt include Tito in there...who again is leaps and bounds a better fighter than ANYONE on Calzaghe's resume.

Now as for the Jones - Hopkins negotiations....you obviously DONT like Bernard, so you will never look at it fairly...but, do some research, it was both of their stubborn egos that didnt make the fight happen.

And 25/75 is a nice number to use in your arguement (I believe you are referring to the Oscar fight....), but it also was discounting the share of PPV money he was to recieve (another thing Roy was unwilling to give).

As for the Hakkar and Joppy fights instead of the Jones fight??? How long have you been watching boxing? Hakkar and Joppy were mandatories (and Joppy was a DAMN good fighter BTW)....now with Hopkins going for the consecutive defense streak (and with the Jones fight falling through, why shouldnt he??), it would be impossible to achieve if he didnt take those fights...because he wouldve been stripped of the title.

Learn something please....this is getting sad.

Finally....you brought up Eubank. A great fighter in his prime. I was waiting on this one (considering its the only one who even ******ts mentioning...).

Now, objectively, tell me if Eubank was still a top fighter when Calzaghe faced him?

Seriously....go to boxrec (where most of your vast knowledge on the sport comes from...:verysad ) and check it out.

Thank you...

Now stop arguing, your only exposing your lack of boxing knowledge. Try it with someone who doesnt know what they are talking about. Cause right now brotha....your in over ya head.

[elias]

Bernard has ducked Calzaghe in the past. I see him ducking Calzaghe again.

[Cabannaro]

Gosh... It's ridiculous.

First of all, you are reverting to 'who has he fought' excuse... I don't need to argue with the rest... Because this argument exposes you most.

But still...

Yet you ignore the fact that Hopkins started his career later in life than Joe did. Instead, to be fair you must look that in the 14 years Joe has fought compared to the 14 years that Bernard has fought
Ok

Again, it had NOTHING to do with KING!!!
King ANYWAY was the promoter of Tito. He wouldn't put Tito at risk if not the Bernard's age and 157lbs catch-up weight... Up to that moment Hop was avoided just as Calzaghe is now.

And in those 14 years....Hopkins resume DWARFS Calzaghe's
And I love how you didnt include Tito in there...who again is leaps and bounds a better fighter than ANYONE on Calzaghe's resume
And YES, taking stupid Tito apart, after 14 years Hop's resume was NO WAY better...

The problem is that Hop is not stupid, so he will end up the talk about Calzaghe just as rematch with not-shot-RJJ

Yes he lost to Jones, but Jones is better than ANYONE on the list of fighters that Calzaghe had the balls to step in the ring with
Yes, he lost, and rejected rematch when Jones was still elite fighter.

And a PRIME GLEN JOHNSON wasnt a great fighter??? You serious?
Explain please what his greatness is. You think after dozen of losses he is IBHOF candidate - simply because he KO'ed the shadow of RJJ?

Stop. You'd better explain what his greatness WAS. Because he wasn't even real professional that time, he was construction worker.

And 25/75 is a nice number to use in your arguement (I believe you are referring to the Oscar fight....), but it also was discounting the share of PPV money he was to recieve (another thing Roy was unwilling to give)
So what? Didn't DLH received even more from PPV?

As for the Hakkar and Joppy fights instead of the Jones fight???
Hakkar and Joppy were mandatories (and Joppy was a DAMN good fighter BTW)

I know that. Anyway, how ever good Joppy was, the purse was incomparable with $6m.

now with Hopkins going for the consecutive defense streak (and with the Jones fight falling through, why shouldnt he??), it would be impossible to achieve if he didnt take those fights...because he wouldve been stripped of the title
On the other hand, RJJ intended to go for HW title while B-Hop wanted the fight below LHW. B-Hop wanted RJJ to go down, to drain the muscles grown for HW journey...

It is simply ridiculous to put such streak record as an argument. How many middleweghts won HW title?

Now, objectively, tell me if Eubank was still a top fighter when Calzaghe faced him?
Not qualifying even for 1/100 of B-Hop? Oh, God. Sorry, I wanted to say: 'Oh, B-Hop'. He is God, now I know that. Thank you.

[deram]

Let Hopkins vs the winner of Kessler/Calzaghe meet in January 2008.

and Hopkins will get a proper beating. Really - he will. I believe he would have the better chances vs. Calzaghe (who would still win) but if Calzaghe gets a (uncontroversial) win over Kessler, then Hopkins will not have a chance in hell.

[aliwasthegreatest]

i would love to see Hopkins paste the canvas with JC. but if his performance against wright was any indication, he won't be able to come close

[Team_Calzaghe]

Folks,

We all had a cracking Saturday night, not only did all of our boys win with Gavin Rees becoming the NEW WBO World Light Welterweight Champion but Joe also won £1,500 after betting £1,000 on Bernard Hopkins beating Winky Wright.

You can't knock Hopkins he's a champion, a veteran and a man who has the balls to take on the best, unlike Jermain "The Coward" Talyor.

I am very confident that the Calzaghe v Hopkins fight will take place early 2008.

There's no doubt in my, Joe's or Bernard Hopkin's mind that Joe will batter kessler into defeat and then go on to box the greatest American boxer at light heavy weight / Supermiddleweight.

Following Calzaghe v Hopkins I expect both boxers will retire since there is no one else out there of any substance to beat.

For those of you who are interested, I'll be writing an article on [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) giving an overview of Joes thoughts of the bouts on Saturday night and comments on Calzaghe v Hopkins.

Regards,


John :good
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[Smazz20]

Let Hopkins vs the winner of Kessler/Calzaghe meet in January 2008.

and Hopkins will get a proper beating. Really - he will. I believe he would have the better chances vs. Calzaghe (who would still win) but if Calzaghe gets a (uncontroversial) win over Kessler, then Hopkins will not have a chance in hell.


Your being too nice man. They should let Hopkins fight the winner on Nov 4th 2007 just so he might have a chance:D

[mstar]

bhop deep down knows JC is the toughest match for him and i really doubt he wants to fight him UNLESS JC's promoter gives him a BIG pay deal, then BHOP will be tempted!

[mstar]

Bernard has ducked Calzaghe in the past. I see him ducking Calzaghe again.

thats the impression i get too, a prime Bhop didn't want anything to do with JC unless BHOP is looking for his retirement money and one last fight (and prepared to seriously lose) he will take it. I honestly think after JC's fight with Kessler we will hear more from bhop.

If JC completley dominates and smashes kessler then u will not hear much talk from BHops camp for a JC match, thats guranteed! :good

[Caper]

Chris Eubank, Jeff Lacy on his resume by the age of 35

Glen Johnson, John David Jackson and Antwun Echols on Hop's resume by the age of 35 :blurp

Oh year, add loss to RJJ to that HUGE list :lol:

:lol:

You can't be serious in trying to compare the resumes.....

:patsch

Hopkins also did a couple years in the bird house :patsch :patsch :patsch

Go slap yourself now.