Wladimir Will Go Down Again!

[lamont zero]

i just rewatched klitschkos fight against hard hitting sam peter and although klitschko showed a good perfomance he just fought a unproved kid. now sam peter is more experienced, he fought toney twice and won. when the two wshould meet each other again peter will avoid klitschkos holding and knock him out, i am sure. what do you think?

[dave]

Did you notice Peters illegal punches behind the head. Vlad will Ko him this time.

[Artani]

i just rewatched klitschkos fight against hard hitting sam peter and although klitschko showed a good perfomance he just fought a unproved kid. now sam peter is more experienced, he fought toney twice and won. when the two wshould meet each other again peter will avoid klitschkos holding and knock him out, i am sure. what do you think?

No way , he will stay for long time in the top. He won a lot of money in the last three years. He gets from RTL 12 milion for four fights and from HBO same 10 to 15. With 25 milion he choicing fighters and some of them he paying with money to let him to beat them.

[Cachibatches]

I am just not that impressed by Peter. Toney was totally shot, and Peter still had trouble with this fat, cigar smoking 38 year old middleweight. The only other things Sam has accomplished are knocking out Williams (those or us who were Tuesday night fans know about Jeremy's chin) and putting down Wladdy three times before losing. Bottom line- eitehr his power is overrated, or he just really needs to develope other skills.

Allow me to completely agree that it is well within the realm of possibility. Peter has some pop, and Wladdy's chin...well...we know about that. What Peter would have to do is work on getting inside, develope more of a right hand, and above all, keep that weight off so he can keep the pressure on.

[Bummy Davis]

Klitdchko proved a lot in that fight, mostly to himself, he took Sams punches and two of those KD's were back of the head punches while holding, one was a clean right hand when Vlad was backing up,Vlad got up and dominated and showed late power by rocking Peter with a wicked left hook. Vlad has improved since that fight( and officials are on the lookout for his repeated illegall back of the head shots) I see a rematch being an easiler fight for Vlad who may stop Peter the next fight...Vlads problem fights may come from Sultan/Ruslin winner (these guys will provide pressure) also fight with Vichis,Valuev,Thompson are all winnable fights but not void of danger for Vlad

[Cabannaro]

2artani

Funny... Brewster was very popular because of his agressive style... If it's so easy to buy fighters to beat, why Don King didn't pay Meehan, Krasniqi and Lyakhovich? They gave to Lamon a lot of trouble unstead of going down fast as Golota did. Wanna say King is more honest than Klitchko? :lol:

[Artani]

2artani

Funny... Brewster was very popular because of his agressive style... If it's so easy to buy fighters to beat, why Don King didn't pay Meehan, Krasniqi and Lyakhovich? They gave to Lamon a lot of trouble unstead of going down fast as Golota did. Wanna say King is more honest than Klitchko? :lol:

This time dident been Don KIng . King is not any more Brewster manager.
Brewster is quite , his eyes is destroyed , he gets some good money with Wlad and will look to take some more with another easy fighter and will retired.

[Cabannaro]

This time dident been Don KIng . Brewster is quite , his eyes is destroyed , he gets some good money and will look to take some more with another easy fighter and will retired.
I'm not about this time, I'm about the previous ones. Why King put Brewster at risk with many fighters if it is so easy to by them, eh?

If fighter believes he has a chance to win, he can take money and still knock the opponent out; OR, if bribe is paid post-fight, f..k the bribe as the rematch or fights with other popular fighter (like Holifield) will provide more money than bribe - and certain money.

[barneyrub]

Did you notice Peters illegal punches behind the head. Vlad will Ko him this time.Thats because as wlad lunged in and grabbed he turned away meaning the back of his head is what he left in the path of a peter punch from the swing he could throw while being grabbed. Blame wlad, he is the one that lunged in to grab, in fact if he hadnt done that he wouldnt have lost his legs and gone down the 2nd time.

[lamont zero]

a blind man saw that brewster should lose. come on and wake up, he just did do nothing and his trainer said stop because of his eyes. peter and chagaev are the men to give wladimir a tough fight. if he can win those fights i and other boxingfans have to give him credit and accept him as the king of heavyweight, but now he is just the best beltholder.

[barneyrub]

Klitdchko proved a lot in that fight, mostly to himself, he took Sams punches and two of those KD's were back of the head punches while holding, one was a clean right hand when Vlad was backing up,Vlad got up and dominated and showed late power by rocking Peter with a wicked left hook. Vlad has improved since that fight( and officials are on the lookout for his repeated illegall back of the head shots) I see a rematch being an easiler fight for Vlad who may stop Peter the next fight...Vlads problem fights may come from Sultan/Ruslin winner (these guys will provide pressure) also fight with Vichis,Valuev,Thompson are all winnable fights but not void of danger for VladAny other ref than randy neuman would of been on th elook out for wlads lunge, grab and lean tactics, its unbelievable that that guy didnt warn him until rd 11.

[Cachibatches]

a blind man saw that brewster should lose. come on and wake up, he just did do nothing and his trainer said stop because of his eyes. peter and chagaev are the men to give wladimir a tough fight. if he can win those fights i and other boxingfans have to give him credit and accept him as the king of heavyweight, but now he is just the best beltholder.
Chag has an iron chin, and knows how to get inside against bigger fighters.

[lamont zero]

you are right. chagaev is not well known, either in the us nor in germany but when he beats ibragimov and he will knock him out he should have made a lot of noise and conquer tdr. steelhammer. that would be funny: wladimir loses his belt and vitali wins one-brothers dream is gone forever!

Chag has an iron chin, and knows how to get inside against bigger fighters.

[dragosuhail]

hang on i put up my number of real clinches in the wlad peter fight (62 all up). and on top of THAT, peter fell into wladimir a LOT of those times. what is wladimir supposed to do? if peter has a great desire to suck on wladimir's nipple, should wladimir be the gentleman and push peter back to arms length and so "here you go, have a shot at me."

bullshit. the reason why peter fell into wladimir's chest so often prompting the clinch was because PETER didn't want to stay at that painful range and get blasted. he might have a great chin, but no one likes to get beat up by the nasty power puncher.

if peter doesn't bullrush wladimir as much as last time he WILL be ko'ed and in the mid rounds too.

and remember wladimir was only a couple fights removed from a disasterious couple losses so he needed that fight to prove he can take it.... he took it well, and nearly closed the show in the 12th.

i agree peter learned a thing or two againsst toney BUT that will only help him against slick, smaller cunning fighters. NOT against a huge outside power puncher. different styles.

oh, and peter was the fittest he ever was against klitschko. dont be fooled by talk that he was actually fitter in the second toney fight. he once sparred wladimir and was beaten around so badly that his corner pulled him out and went home. i believe this story as wladimir did the same thing in the actual fight.

peters ONLY chance in a rematch is to wild like a madman even if he gasses after 4 rounds cause if he tries jabbing his way in that will never work against wladimir.

i agree wladimir shouldn't have turned his head on the first knock down but that in no way excuses for peter for unleashing a big rabbit punch. no excuse whatso ever. so aside from one legit knock down which didn't exactly make wladimir glassy eyed, i truly believe an even more confident and peaked wladimir will destroy peter in 10 rounds or less.

wladimir will move and jab even more in a rematch and then lay down the hammer at the right moments. he will not relax and lose focus like in the first fight... and you can be as sure as hell that he and steward will be training to nullify the rabbit punches. :deal

p.s. and what's this about being green? peter had more experience than other fighters who fought wladimir because he SPARRED HIM! if that didn't clue peter into a few ideas and tricks then he'll never learn.

[Artani]

I'm not about this time, I'm about the previous ones. Why King put Brewster at risk with many fighters if it is so easy to by them, eh?

If fighter believes he has a chance to win, he can take money and still knock the opponent out; OR, if bribe is paid post-fight, f..k the bribe as the rematch or fights with other popular fighter (like Holifield) will provide more money than bribe - and certain money.

Because Wlad knows that Holyfield will not sell never his fights . Holy is real man :good

[dragosuhail]

i too believe chageav too is the most dangerous future threat for wladimir. he handled valuev well considering the size difference, and wlad is smaller. BUT i do feel chageav has never been hit by something as hard as what wladimir brings to the table and more importantly as often.

sure chageav might have taken one or two hard punches similar to a wladimir punch but what will happen when the highly accurate, fast and hardest punches start to land multiple times a round? that will be a true test of chageav's chin. not to mention wladimir has the footwork speed of someone a lot smaller so chag might get bewildered and stopped due to all those facts plus size difference. but i do give chag move of a chance than anyone else in the division that's for sure :thumbsup

[barneyrub]

hang on i put up my number of real clinches in the wlad peter fight (62 all up). and on top of THAT, peter fell into wladimir a LOT of those times. what is wladimir supposed to do? if peter has a great desire to suck on wladimir's nipple, should wladimir be the gentleman and push peter back to arms length and so "here you go, have a shot at me."

bullshit. the reason why peter fell into wladimir's chest so often prompting the clinch was because PETER didn't want to stay at that painful range and get blasted. he might have a great chin, but no one likes to get beat up by the nasty power puncher.

if peter doesn't bullrush wladimir as much as last time he WILL be ko'ed and in the mid rounds too.

and remember wladimir was only a couple fights removed from a disasterious couple losses so he needed that fight to prove he can take it.... he took it well, and nearly closed the show in the 12th.

i agree peter learned a thing or two againsst toney BUT that will only help him against slick, smaller cunning fighters. NOT against a huge outside power puncher. different styles.

oh, and peter was the fittest he ever was against klitschko. dont be fooled by talk that he was actually fitter in the second toney fight. he once sparred wladimir and was beaten around so badly that his corner pulled him out and went home. i believe this story as wladimir did the same thing in the actual fight.

peters ONLY chance in a rematch is to wild like a madman even if he gasses after 4 rounds cause if he tries jabbing his way in that will never work against wladimir.

i agree wladimir shouldn't have turned his head on the first knock down but that in no way excuses for peter for unleashing a big rabbit punch. no excuse whatso ever. so aside from one legit knock down which didn't exactly make wladimir glassy eyed, i truly believe an even more confident and peaked wladimir will destroy peter in 10 rounds or less.

wladimir will move and jab even more in a rematch and then lay down the hammer at the right moments. he will not relax and lose focus like in the first fight... and you can be as sure as hell that he and steward will be training to nullify the rabbit punches. :deal

p.s. and what's this about being green? peter had more experience than other fighters who fought wladimir because he SPARRED HIM! if that didn't clue peter into a few ideas and tricks then he'll never learn.62!!! I got bored counting once the lunge in, grab Peter and lean on him tactic hit 91!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Rudolph]

for instance there were over 100 clinches in Valuev-Ruiz (with 70+ initiated by Valuev) and i think around 1000 clinches in Hatton-Urango (all started by Hatton)

[MrSmall]

Peter doesn't have pop, he has concussive power, like a heavy punch rather than that bang bang bang style.

[lamont zero]

i too believe chageav too is the most dangerous future threat for wladimir. he handled valuev well considering the size difference, and wlad is smaller. BUT i do feel chageav has never been hit by something as hard as what wladimir brings to the table and more importantly as often.

sure chageav might have taken one or two hard punches similar to a wladimir punch but what will happen when the highly accurate, fast and hardest punches start to land multiple times a round? that will be a true test of chageav's chin. not to mention wladimir has the footwork speed of someone a lot smaller so chag might get bewildered and stopped due to all those facts plus size difference. but i do give chag move of a chance than anyone else in the division that's for sure :thumbsup

chagaev fought against virchis who is probably the hardest hitting man in the division. i think that chagaev himself has a big bang and when it lands on wladis chin its BYE BYE.

[dragosuhail]

barneyrub that's pure bias. seriously i know you dont like klitschko much but seriously 90 plus clinches. bullshit

i watched it and wrote thread recently about it since some reckon it was in the range of 90 to 100+.

62 was WLADIMIR'S clinches.

1. peter clinches. but they were all wladimir's weren't they? :-(

2. a pawing jab hand from wlad which hooked around peter's head but didn't prevent peter from doing anyhting. in fact that put peter right in the pocket and peter did fuck all. not a fucking clinch.

3. half hearted attempt which peter ducked. not a clinch.

4. peter caused a large number of these clinches by his strong desire to suck wladimir's nipples rather than stopping himself from falling in. peter could have stepped in and done some inside work but chose to do a lunge and fall in tactic forcing wladimir to clinch.

seriously if you counted every little thing that was merely looked like it could have been the BEGINNING of an aborted clinch then the hate has just blinded you im sorry.

if he clinched that much then what does that make fighters like mayweather, hopkins, lewis etc look like? so your saying these great fighters are similar to john ruiz?

in my thread about this, i put up the clinchs PER ROUND. i'd be interested to see your stats per round. :deal

[Slothrop]

i just rewatched klitschkos fight against hard hitting sam peter and although klitschko showed a good perfomance he just fought a unproved kid. now sam peter is more experienced, he fought toney twice and won. when the two wshould meet each other again peter will avoid klitschkos holding and knock him out, i am sure. what do you think?

Peter no longer impresses me as he once did. Wlad knocks him out if they go again.

[barneyrub]

barneyrub that's pure bias. seriously i know you dont like klitschko much but seriously 90 plus clinches. bullshit

i watched it and wrote thread recently about it since some reckon it was in the range of 90 to 100+.

62 was WLADIMIR'S clinches.

1. peter clinches. but they were all wladimir's weren't they? :-(

2. a pawing jab hand from wlad which hooked around peter's head but didn't prevent peter from doing anyhting. in fact that put peter right in the pocket and peter did fuck all. not a fucking clinch.

3. half hearted attempt which peter ducked. not a clinch.

4. peter caused a large number of these clinches by his strong desire to suck wladimir's nipples rather than stopping himself from falling in. peter could have stepped in and done some inside work but chose to do a lunge and fall in tactic forcing wladimir to clinch.

seriously if you counted every little thing that was merely looked like it could have been the BEGINNING of an aborted clinch then the hate has just blinded you im sorry.

if he clinched that much then what does that make fighters like mayweather, hopkins, lewis etc look like? so your saying these great fighters are similar to john ruiz?

in my thread about this, i put up the clinchs PER ROUND. i'd be interested to see your stats per round. :dealThere are at least 91 on that video condensed into a compilation. Look at wlad lunge in to lean down on him and peter having to push him off and the ref even warning peter for doing so lol, particularly in the rounds where wlad was panicing and ended up on the canvas.

[Cabannaro]

Because Wlad knows that Holyfield will not sell never his fights
You can't even read English...

Beating Wlad thrusts the fighter to the top where BIG money can be made on OLD and FADED Holy... There's no point in taking money for surrender IF you can win...

Anyway, this case is hopeless :-(

[RUSKULL]

Because Wlad knows that Holyfield will not sell never his fights . Holy is real man :good

Now I understand, Wlad only wins because he bribes the opposing fighters..............................:yep :rofl :lol:

You're a certified nutjob!

[RUSKULL]

chagaev fought against virchis who is probably the hardest hitting man in the division. i think that chagaev himself has a big bang and when it lands on wladis chin its BYE BYE.

Yeah right, just like Peter was going to KO Wlad in the first round, or Brock was going to, or Byrd, yes, some people actually thought Byrd would KO Wlad. :lol: Austin, Brewster, etc.

[RUSKULL]

barneyrub that's pure bias. seriously i know you dont like klitschko much but seriously 90 plus clinches. bullshit

i watched it and wrote thread recently about it since some reckon it was in the range of 90 to 100+.

62 was WLADIMIR'S clinches.

1. peter clinches. but they were all wladimir's weren't they? :-(

2. a pawing jab hand from wlad which hooked around peter's head but didn't prevent peter from doing anyhting. in fact that put peter right in the pocket and peter did fuck all. not a fucking clinch.

3. half hearted attempt which peter ducked. not a clinch.

4. peter caused a large number of these clinches by his strong desire to suck wladimir's nipples rather than stopping himself from falling in. peter could have stepped in and done some inside work but chose to do a lunge and fall in tactic forcing wladimir to clinch.

seriously if you counted every little thing that was merely looked like it could have been the BEGINNING of an aborted clinch then the hate has just blinded you im sorry.

if he clinched that much then what does that make fighters like mayweather, hopkins, lewis etc look like? so your saying these great fighters are similar to john ruiz?

in my thread about this, i put up the clinchs PER ROUND. i'd be interested to see your stats per round. :deal

Great points. 62 clinches divided by 12 rounds = 5.167 clinches per ound.

I think it's fair to say that amount of clinching vs. a power puncher isn't out of line.

[Nokstar]

yall gotta watch closely when watching peter fight. Technically he doesnt look impressive...but you have to pay attention to how smart he is with the little things....

What i like about sam...he takes EVERY oppurtunity to punch when you dont expect him to punch....say for instance...when he's in a clinch..he looks at the fighter and waits for him to look away and he throws hard punches DURING the clinch or just when you're breaking.....its very sneaky but very smart because most fighters don't expect a power punch comming during this situation.

He's very good and throwing haymakers at the right time lol...that's why he's so dangerous

[lamont zero]

Well I moticed the title of this thread is " Wladimir will go down again "
He went down the first time, and still won...this thread says he will go down, not that he will lose :bart

thank you! i think he will go down again when he faces a top man like chagaev or peter but that will show us how he can handle it. i would like to see klitschko dominate the division but not by beating dead men.

[Sputnik44]

yall gotta watch closely when watching peter fight. Technically he doesnt look impressive...but you have to pay attention to how smart he is with the little things....

What i like about sam...he takes EVERY oppurtunity to punch when you dont expect him to punch....say for instance...when he's in a clinch..he looks at the fighter and waits for him to look away and he throws hard punches DURING the clinch or just when you're breaking.....its very sneaky but very smart because most fighters don't expect a power punch comming during this situation.

He's very good and throwing haymakers at the right time lol...that's why he's so dangerous

So you are saying you like peter because he punches on a break? first of all the ref's instructions clearly say "when I say Break stop punching and step back" and when the other fighter looks away he punches them? where right in the back of the head? again illegal

so you are impressed by his ability to cheat?

[A-50]

Peter's best punch is to the back of the head. If Peter fights Vitali, he will get brutally beaten. Peter could not even KO Glass Jaw Wlad.

[KobeIsGod]

thank you! i think he will go down again when he faces a top man like chagaev or peter but that will show us how he can handle it. i would like to see klitschko dominate the division but not by beating dead men.

well, tell the other belt holders to hold on to their trinkets past their first defense so Wald can knock them out :yep

[Zakman]

An improved Peter will take Wlad out when and if they meet. Heck, a green Peter almost had him out there!! :nod

[RUSKULL]

An improved Peter will take Wlad out when and if they meet. Heck, a green Peter almost had him out there!! :nod

They've both improved since the first fight but Wladimir has improved more in technique & execution not to mention confidence.

Klitschko KO's his plodding ass this time around. :deal :cool:

[Zakman]

Klitschko KO's his plodding ass this time around. :deal :cool:

Wlad might win a UD, but no way is he gonna KO the iron-chinned Peter. Wlad's chin is not as bad a people say - he's never been KTFO like true glass-jawed fighters like Rahman - but it's not as solid as Peter's. When two big punchers meet - one of 'em with a rock-solid chin, the other with a shaky one, I'll take the guy with the proven beard.

Peter KO 7

[RUSKULL]

Wlad might win a UD, but no way is he gonna KO the iron-chinned Peter. Wlad's chin is not as bad a people say - he's never been KTFO like true glass-jawed fighters like Rahman - but it's not as solid as Peter's. When two big punchers meet - one of 'em with a rock-solid chin, the other with a shaky one, I'll take the guy with the proven beard.

Peter KO 7

They're both big punchers & Peter gets the edge in the chin department but I'll take the far better boxer with the ring experience. To each his own I always say.........................:yep

[Dostoevsky]

Sultan Ibragimov or Timor?
cause i don' think either have a chance against Wlad.

Chagaev might have a chance, Peter will get crushed again imo.

[2smart4u]

An improved Peter will take Wlad out when and if they meet. Heck, a green Peter almost had him out there!! :nod:lol: When did PETER improve ? If you ask me PETER regressed after taking the beating from VLAD ! Unless your stupid enough to think beating TONEY by decision is an improvement ?:yep

[A-50]

I think Wlad would stopm Peter in a rematch. Wlad fought very cautious the first fight, doubtful he would in a rematch.

[BoxingGuru]

This is easy as pie. Scam Cheater has never knocked out a top 10 fighter. Ever. He lost to a fat shot James Toney who was twice as shot in the second fight, which is the ONLY reason Scam won.

Wlad by TKO and get a referee who won't allow that dangerous behind the head shit that Scam Cheater tries to do to everyone he fights.

[barneyrub]

They've both improved since the first fight but Wladimir has improved more in technique & execution not to mention confidence.

Klitschko KO's his plodding ass this time around. :deal :cool:The kind of confidence gained fighting austin and a one eyed brewster is overconfidence, those fights prove nothing more than a session on the heavybag.

[Mrboogie23]

Peter has improved since their first fight. Wladimir has improved since their first fight. I know I'd be interested in the rematch. I'm sure everyonoe would be. The wladimir fans would have knots in their stomachs I'm sure. Peter DOES have the ability to knock Wladimir out. I doubt Wlad knocks out Peter.

He had peter hurt in their first fight but Peter recovered quickly and it took a shitload of hard ass right hands and hooks all night to finally hurt him. Peters chin is SOLID. Wlads chin, not so much.

[Dostoevsky]

When is Wlad fighting again?

[Chileno606]

Wlad improves after every fight, while limited ol' Peter is just getting older and slower. Wlad by late TKO next time around.

[madpup]

I can not believe people are thinking highly of Peter. I keep my judgement reserved until he beats someone decent (Toney's current leve was truly shown in his last fight).

[RUSKULL]

The kind of confidence gained fighting austin and a one eyed brewster is overconfidence, those fights prove nothing more than a session on the heavybag.

Oh please, they're only shit & one-eyed after Wlad beats the piss outta them.................same ol' tune there Barney-boy.

[Jinx]

Peter still has to get Maskaev in the ring before he can worry about a Wlad rematch...and Vitaly will get the winner of Peter/Maskaev anyway, if he doesn't get injured again...

[RUSKULL]

Peter has improved since their first fight. Wladimir has improved since their first fight. I know I'd be interested in the rematch. I'm sure everyonoe would be. The wladimir fans would have knots in their stomachs I'm sure. Peter DOES have the ability to knock Wladimir out. I doubt Wlad knocks out Peter.

He had peter hurt in their first fight but Peter recovered quickly and it took a shitload of hard ass right hands and hooks all night to finally hurt him. Peters chin is SOLID. Wlads chin, not so much.

A more confident Wladimir would've finished Peter in the 12th round. He was fighting a "safety first style" and at that point he knew he was well ahead on the cards so why risk it? This time Peter does the Harlem shuffle earlier & Wlad pounds him down & out.

[MagnificentMatt]

i just rewatched klitschkos fight against hard hitting sam peter and although klitschko showed a good perfomance he just fought a unproved kid. now sam peter is more experienced, he fought toney twice and won. when the two wshould meet each other again peter will avoid klitschkos holding and knock him out, i am sure. what do you think?

Man...Sam Peter had a better chance against Wlad as a slugger than he does with boxing skills (you know, those things he found after the first Toney fight). So assuming he slugs on Wlad again, he has a small chance to knock him out, Sam Peter is the 2nd best HW in the game right now in my opinion but Wladimir is gonna be around for a while and thats that.

[RUSKULL]

Peter still has to get Maskaev in the ring before he can worry about a Wlad rematch...and Vitaly will get the winner of Peter/Maskaev anyway, if he doesn't get injured again...

Good point. Many here act as if Peter has already done away with Oleg and the outcome is inevitable.

Besides, even if Scam Cheater can beat Oleg he has to face Vitali and my money's on VitKlit.

[Mrboogie23]

A more confident Wladimir would've finished Peter in the 12th round. He was fighting a "safety first style" and at that point he knew he was well ahead on the cards so why risk it? This time Peter does the Harlem shuffle earlier & Wlad pounds him down & out.


maybe, you could be right. I wont disagree with you. I will say that Peter did recover well from being shook. Wlad did jump in but I think he saw that Peters head cleared up pretty quickly.

[RUSKULL]

Man...Sam Peter had a better chance against Wlad as a slugger than he does with boxing skills (you know, those things he found after the first Toney fight). So assuming he slugs on Wlad again, he has a small chance to knock him out, Sam Peter is the 2nd best HW in the game right now in my opinion but Wladimir is gonna be around for a while and thats that.

I concider Chagaev to be the 2nd best Heavy at this point. I think he'd decision Peter if they fought right now.

[RUSKULL]

maybe, you could be right. I wont disagree with you. I will say that Peter did recover well from being shook. Wlad did jump in but I think he saw that Peters head cleared up pretty quickly.

Klitschko didn't jump on him like he did vs. Brock, Austin or Brewster, no way.

[Brendan]

i just rewatched klitschkos fight against hard hitting sam peter and although klitschko showed a good perfomance he just fought a unproved kid. now sam peter is more experienced, he fought toney twice and won. when the two wshould meet each other again peter will avoid klitschkos holding and knock him out, i am sure. what do you think?

I seriously think Wlad'll wreck Peter if they fight again.