JonOli
07-10-2008, 07:18 PM
Who do you think, in order, are Britain's top 5 greatest ever heavyweights?
This may be a pretty easy one to pick; I haven't really though about it.
Just to throw around names....here's a random list lifted from somewere....
Tommy Farr: A former coal miner from Wales, Farr was among the most courageous heavyweights of his era. He beat the likes of Tommy Loughran, Bob Olin and former heavyweight king Max Baer. But when he challenged reigning champ Joe Louis on August 30, 1937, courage only took him so far. He lost a unanimous decision. Louis made 25 defenses of the heavyweight crown, knocking out 22 of his challengers. Only Farr, Arturo Godoy and Jersey Joe Walcott lasted the distance with Louis.
Don Cockell: A blacksmith by trade, Cockell began boxing in 1946. He beat an aging Farr en route to winning the British and Commonwealth crowns and later defeated American contender Roland LaStarza. He challenged heavyweight champ Rocky Marciano on May 16, 1955 at Kezar Stadium in San Francisco. Marciano swarmed over his foe but the British contender managed to withstand the attack until the eighth round. Cockell was dropped in the 8th and twice in the 9th but arose from each knockdown. However, the referee had seen enough and stopped the contest after the third knockdown. Marciano said after the fight, "He's got a lot of guts. I don't think I ever hit anyone else any more often or harder."
Henry Cooper: Known as "Our 'Enery." The most beloved heavyweight in British history, Cooper held the British, Commonwealth and European heavyweight crowns. However, Cooper was best known for his two bouts with Muhammad Ali. The first came in 1963 at Wembley Stadium and Cooper managed to floor the future champ with a left hook in Round 4. The bout would end a round later with Cooper bleeding profusely from above the left eye. The fight has taken on a mythical status because it was revealed later that Ali's cornerman Angelo Dundee bought his charge more time between rounds after the knockdown by splitting the American's glove. Three years later, Cooper challenged Ali with the heavyweight title on the line and was again stopped on cuts, this time in Round 6.
Brian London: He lost a pair of bouts to Cooper and also lost in a pair of heavyweight title fights. London was knocked out by champion Floyd Patterson in the 11th round of a 1959 bout and was stopped by Ali in three rounds in 1966.
Joe Bugner: He was born in Hungary but launched his pro career in London in 1967. Fought out of England until his retirement from boxing. Defeated Henry Cooper in 1971 to win British, Commonwealth and European heavyweight titles. He beat notable American heavyweights such as Chuck Wepner, Mac Foster and Jimmy Ellis. At 6-5, he was more boxer than puncher. In 1973, he lost consecutive 12-round fights to Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier. Bugner challenged Ali for the world heavyweight title on July 1. 1975 in Kuala Lampur and lost a 15-round decision. Made a comeback to boxing and in 1998, at the age of 48, he defeated former WBA champ Bonecrusher Smith, who was 45.
Richard Dunn: A southpaw born in Halifax, England, Dunn held the British and Commonwealth heavyweight crowns in 1975. He challenged Muhammad Ali for the heavyweight crown on May 24, 1976 in Munich and was stopped in five rounds.
Frank Bruno: He had posted wins over Gerrie Coetzee, Carl "The Truth" Williams and James "Quick" Tillis, but couldn't win the big one until the ordinary Oliver McCall became champ. Bruno decisioned McCall for the WBC heavyweight title in 1995. Bruno, who had above average power, failed to win the heavyweight title from Tim Witherspoon in 1986, Mike Tyson in 1989 and Lennox Lewis in 1993. After racing to a fast start, Bruno was knocked out in each of those title challenges. In 1996 Bruno would meet Tyson again. This time Bruno held the WBC belt while Tyson was challenger. The result, however, was the same. Tyson stopped Bruno in the third round.
Lennox Lewis: He won a gold medal for Canada in the 1988 Olympics but returned to England, his place of birth, to launch his pro career. Initially, British boxing fans didn't warm to Lewis because he was considered a Canadian (He moved to Canada from London when he was 12). That changed when he knocked out Razor Ruddock in two rounds at London's Earls Court in 1992 and was subsequently awarded the WBC title. American rival and undisputed champ Riddick Bowe vacated the WBC belt rather than meet Lewis in a mandatory match. Thus, Lewis became England's first heavyweight king since Bob Fitzsimmons in 1899. He lost the belt when Oliver McCall upset him via second-round knockout in 1994. He later regained the WBC crown with a TKO over McCall. Then in a bid to unify the heavyweight crown, Lewis met WBA/IBF champ Evander Holyfield in March of 1999 at Madison Square Garden. The bout, which many thought that Lewis had clearly won, was declared a draw. They met in rematch later in '99 and this time Lewis left no doubts, winning a unanimous decision and the undisputed heavyweight title. Since that meeting, he lost the title to Hasim Rahman and then regained it with a knockout, much the way he did with McCall. In June of 2002, he scored his highest-profile win, an 8th-round knockout of Mike Tyson.
Herbie Hide: The hard punching Hide won the lightly regarded WBO heavyweight title from Michael Bentt with a seventh-round knockout in 1994. In his first title defense, Hide was knocked out by Riddick Bowe. Audley Harrison: Captured the super heavyweight gold medal at the 2000 Olympics in Sydney, Australia. As of November 2002, he was 8-0.
Danny Williams....
Matt Skelton....
Julius francis...
This may be a pretty easy one to pick; I haven't really though about it.
Just to throw around names....here's a random list lifted from somewere....
Tommy Farr: A former coal miner from Wales, Farr was among the most courageous heavyweights of his era. He beat the likes of Tommy Loughran, Bob Olin and former heavyweight king Max Baer. But when he challenged reigning champ Joe Louis on August 30, 1937, courage only took him so far. He lost a unanimous decision. Louis made 25 defenses of the heavyweight crown, knocking out 22 of his challengers. Only Farr, Arturo Godoy and Jersey Joe Walcott lasted the distance with Louis.
Don Cockell: A blacksmith by trade, Cockell began boxing in 1946. He beat an aging Farr en route to winning the British and Commonwealth crowns and later defeated American contender Roland LaStarza. He challenged heavyweight champ Rocky Marciano on May 16, 1955 at Kezar Stadium in San Francisco. Marciano swarmed over his foe but the British contender managed to withstand the attack until the eighth round. Cockell was dropped in the 8th and twice in the 9th but arose from each knockdown. However, the referee had seen enough and stopped the contest after the third knockdown. Marciano said after the fight, "He's got a lot of guts. I don't think I ever hit anyone else any more often or harder."
Henry Cooper: Known as "Our 'Enery." The most beloved heavyweight in British history, Cooper held the British, Commonwealth and European heavyweight crowns. However, Cooper was best known for his two bouts with Muhammad Ali. The first came in 1963 at Wembley Stadium and Cooper managed to floor the future champ with a left hook in Round 4. The bout would end a round later with Cooper bleeding profusely from above the left eye. The fight has taken on a mythical status because it was revealed later that Ali's cornerman Angelo Dundee bought his charge more time between rounds after the knockdown by splitting the American's glove. Three years later, Cooper challenged Ali with the heavyweight title on the line and was again stopped on cuts, this time in Round 6.
Brian London: He lost a pair of bouts to Cooper and also lost in a pair of heavyweight title fights. London was knocked out by champion Floyd Patterson in the 11th round of a 1959 bout and was stopped by Ali in three rounds in 1966.
Joe Bugner: He was born in Hungary but launched his pro career in London in 1967. Fought out of England until his retirement from boxing. Defeated Henry Cooper in 1971 to win British, Commonwealth and European heavyweight titles. He beat notable American heavyweights such as Chuck Wepner, Mac Foster and Jimmy Ellis. At 6-5, he was more boxer than puncher. In 1973, he lost consecutive 12-round fights to Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier. Bugner challenged Ali for the world heavyweight title on July 1. 1975 in Kuala Lampur and lost a 15-round decision. Made a comeback to boxing and in 1998, at the age of 48, he defeated former WBA champ Bonecrusher Smith, who was 45.
Richard Dunn: A southpaw born in Halifax, England, Dunn held the British and Commonwealth heavyweight crowns in 1975. He challenged Muhammad Ali for the heavyweight crown on May 24, 1976 in Munich and was stopped in five rounds.
Frank Bruno: He had posted wins over Gerrie Coetzee, Carl "The Truth" Williams and James "Quick" Tillis, but couldn't win the big one until the ordinary Oliver McCall became champ. Bruno decisioned McCall for the WBC heavyweight title in 1995. Bruno, who had above average power, failed to win the heavyweight title from Tim Witherspoon in 1986, Mike Tyson in 1989 and Lennox Lewis in 1993. After racing to a fast start, Bruno was knocked out in each of those title challenges. In 1996 Bruno would meet Tyson again. This time Bruno held the WBC belt while Tyson was challenger. The result, however, was the same. Tyson stopped Bruno in the third round.
Lennox Lewis: He won a gold medal for Canada in the 1988 Olympics but returned to England, his place of birth, to launch his pro career. Initially, British boxing fans didn't warm to Lewis because he was considered a Canadian (He moved to Canada from London when he was 12). That changed when he knocked out Razor Ruddock in two rounds at London's Earls Court in 1992 and was subsequently awarded the WBC title. American rival and undisputed champ Riddick Bowe vacated the WBC belt rather than meet Lewis in a mandatory match. Thus, Lewis became England's first heavyweight king since Bob Fitzsimmons in 1899. He lost the belt when Oliver McCall upset him via second-round knockout in 1994. He later regained the WBC crown with a TKO over McCall. Then in a bid to unify the heavyweight crown, Lewis met WBA/IBF champ Evander Holyfield in March of 1999 at Madison Square Garden. The bout, which many thought that Lewis had clearly won, was declared a draw. They met in rematch later in '99 and this time Lewis left no doubts, winning a unanimous decision and the undisputed heavyweight title. Since that meeting, he lost the title to Hasim Rahman and then regained it with a knockout, much the way he did with McCall. In June of 2002, he scored his highest-profile win, an 8th-round knockout of Mike Tyson.
Herbie Hide: The hard punching Hide won the lightly regarded WBO heavyweight title from Michael Bentt with a seventh-round knockout in 1994. In his first title defense, Hide was knocked out by Riddick Bowe. Audley Harrison: Captured the super heavyweight gold medal at the 2000 Olympics in Sydney, Australia. As of November 2002, he was 8-0.
Danny Williams....
Matt Skelton....
Julius francis...